The Vanishing Male Voter

mediocre? neither of these two rise that high. Hillary rocks

I don't agree that it is automatically a GOOD THING if everyone votes... some people elect NOT to vote on principle (as with a certain honored American who said "I don't vote for politicians. It only encourages them"), some because they see no difference in voting one way or the other, some because they have no active interest in (and likely, therefore, little knowledge about) politics. Do we really want to consider voting such a DUTY that even those who have no interest or knowledge about the issues should do it? Where is the wisdom in that?

I think its just the other way around. Those with an interest in the issues, especially those who have some relevant knowledge, do not need to be "encouraged" to vote....they do so on their own volition. Those who do NOT have such interest or knowledge are unlikely to contribute wise choices... nobody should be barred from voting, but its silly to argue that encouraging the ignorant and the disinterested to vote will improve the results of elections.

Exactly a choice is a choice and I choose not take part in the election, after all this is a free country and I have the right not to vote!

I will vote, but with absolutely no enthusiasm.

I think, Trajan, that your comment says in simple eloquence truths about males many do not wish to embrace or even acknowlege. Right now many in the US come out ahead by attacking males, and letting them die young, rather than by nuturing them.. Make no mistake, they know exactly what they are doing.

LawyerDad

you've got to vote for whomever can work with congress, because that';s how the system is set up

Why do they lie to get elected, we expect them to, we accept it as part of the process. Why? Why do we accept it? When they get into office and do the opposite of what they said, why aren't the people flooding their office with letters and phone calls? Why don't we call them out on in at their town meetings? Why don't we encourage and support their opposition when their term is up? Listen up, that's what elections are for folks. If our "representatives" aren't doing what we want them to do, we're supposed to vote them out. That's our civic duty, our part in guiding the country. If we fail to do our part, don't get out and vote, do nothingbut sit around and complain, the condition of our government and our country is as much our fault as theirs.

Hillary did, but the party elites were afraid and jealous of her

I agree entirely.

I, too, am a single dad, aged 58, who is raising 3 kids, with all the tides against me. I even pay substantial alimony every month to my ex, and support her, who had everything going for her, even though she was the one I caught with a married man in my bedroom, and she was the one who demanded a divorce, not me. Seems odd I should be the one depended upon to support her mischief and freedom, but that's the way our system works these days.

I work long and hard to pay my bills and obligations. I don't have time to be a dilettante, to have fun or pleasure, to indulge my own needs or my ego, or even to take time of or vacations. Apparently many others in our society have much more open and elective choice over how they use their time than I.

As for dads and men who indulge in self gratification, as one commentator alludes to, I would suggest that they are either self centered - and they may be - or they have given up on trying to satifying demands on them from all directions that they do not have the strength, talent, intelligence, or energy to satisfy. For I suggest no one can. This is not the sign of a society healthy for males.

LawyerDad

I see little hope for our political system

well stated

i couldn't agree with you more, a 3rd party of MODERATES is exactly what we need. The radical liberals have taken the democratic party hostage, as have the radical conservatives taken the republican. Hillary would have represented all of us, but Pelosi was jealous and bitch slapped her out of the race.

I agree.

My hope is that the anger of the electorate will throw out the entire House and 1/3 of the Senate in the election. If so, maybe these long festering, important issues, will finally be faced.

In the meantime, there is a looming possibility that US males may decide to vote with their feet,. It's hard to stay in a soceity that is hostile to you, day in and day out, that's slowly killing you, when other countries offer men a better way of life and treat them better. I saw that when I was older and worked overseas. This view may transfer to new generations as we speak. My 2 boys, for example, are in the midst of the glory years of high school when strength, poise, excellent in sports, leadership, and academic excellence can be well rewarded, but they are becoming less than enthusiastic about living in the US when they are bombarded by media messages hostile to men, and see how the US treats men during their working years. After a certain point they will make their own way, as have we all.

LawyerDad

Maybe not now, but once upon a time, I bet you were a pretty, slim, mini skirt wearing female that God commanded in his word to you, the (wo-man), to your place he intended for you as one who should submit to the Stronger of his creation, who is your superior in all respects. Now that you no longer have beauty, nor brains, your most likely are walling in fat and self pity, but a vote for Obama can't help you.

I never read such far reaching insults in so few words. You managed to offend just about everyone; except the most far left, angry, elite, self-righteous, hypocritical, close minded, radical Obama supporters

Well let's see... since you think we have a socialist fool running for President, you don't know the issues. Or what socialism is. At all. Which makes you part of the problem.

Perhaps you are right.

If I worked long hours, it was because we spent a lot, needed a lot, and couldn't afford to lose our jobs.

On the other hand, in the end, it's clear that what she wanted was to play, and for me to pay for it. That is what she got. I could not stop the divorce. Seems we are almost indulging these days in role reversals from the 1950's and 1960's days, except men like me now hold down full time jobs in addition to raising the family. That;'s not the way it was in the 1950's and 1960's - I lived through it - although it's probably fun to fantasize that..

LawyerDad