A Catholic Brief for Obama

Enter Your Comment Weigel has been a discredited yes-man for the conservative (reactionary) wing of the Church not unlike the rest of his silly cohorts. Who pays any attenntion to him? He more often than not sides with that misguided extremist archbishop in Denver (in my opinion, one of the bad appointmments of John Paul II). Where were they ifour years ago when we elected someone considered by many a mass murderer? And the fact that they did not warn us not to vote for him constitutes a sin of omission, doesn't it? And shouldn't that be considered sinful?

It's amazing to me that the likes of these three great equivocators are still trying to rationalize something that can't be rationalized. The Church teaches that respect for life trumps all issues, period. Prideful ivory tower Catholics like Kmiec, Kaveny and Cafardi can't and won't submit to the authority of the Church they profess to adhere to. And that's one of the hallmarks of Jesus' teaching: more of Him, less of me.

I read Mr. Weigel's opinion and this one. I am quite taken aback by the purely political tone of this article as opposed to the more substantive and quite frankly, helpful tone of Mr. Wiegel's column. This column would have been served well to have at least responded to half of George Wiegel's arguments.

OK everybody....let's all get real. As a faithful Catholic, if you are gonna back Barrack Hussain Obama for president you really cannot do it in "good conscience" as the Newsweek article suggest. Ponchas Pilot washed his hands after his decision and blamed it on political pressure. Try that. And if that don't work maybe chanting some ancient eco-ritual to save the rain forest can drown out the screams of the unborn.

This is so true about how the election is already bought and paid for:
http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/what-is-it-that-barack-obama-knows-that-the-rest-of-us-don%E2%80%99t/#comment-1929

Obama, the excuses are wearing thin. what excuse do you have for this one?:
http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/obama-praised-searing-and-timely-book-by-ayers/

Everytime we use a contraception, we kill a baby?

What planet were you born on?

Now for religion, I'm noticing Christians attacking Oprah and Barack because they disagree that Jesus is not the ONLY way to get to heaven. Just because I BELIEVE that Jesus is the way, I'm not telling another person's religion is wrong. We can agree to disagree on music and politics, why not religion?

If we started opening our minds and understanding other religious views, it would broaden our horizons. I would at least stop SOME of the religious killings we see today.

Churches are having a hard enough task of stopping pre marital sex, I'm not sure of the official stance today on the use of condoms. It is at the point that even if you are married you're almost afraid to admit to enjoying sex.

Girls cannot talk about abortions to their priest anymore than they can talk about cutting class to their parents. They can't talk to their parents about abortions anymore than they can admit that they are HAVING sex. Until they can FEEL comfortable to talking to their church and their parents about abortions, we can't ban it.

If we do ban abortions, now we can't encourage young men to 'sowing their wild oats', the very next rule after banning abortions should again be 'you break it your buy it'!.

You are not as eloquent or convincing as Obama in promoting your agenda; no matter how you call it - Obama is the proabortion candidate.

Maybe this is difficult for well-meaning white liberals to understand, but when you realize that the current Black population in the US should be at least 33% more, you realize that Margaret Sanger and her ilk have been hugely successful, thanks to them:
???Margaret Sanger was a racist, elitist, and eugenecist. She knew that if the hopes for a controlled black population were to be realized then PP would have to enlist the help of black ministers. She knew that black ministers were very well respected in their communities. She once wrote:
???The mass of Negroes, particularly in the South, still breed carelessly and disastrously, with the result that the increase among Negroes, even more than among Whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent and fit.***
???The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the Minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.??????

Black Pro-Lifers March, Protest Racist Nature of Planned Parenthood and Abortion:

These are the people who take money from black and poor women to eliminate their own race. The very same people Barack Obama is ???acquainted??? with:
??????the issue of choice. On this fundamental issue, I will not yield, and Planned Parenthood will not yield.??? (Barack Obama, July17, 2007)

That ???choice??? is eliminating huge portions of the black race, and, in the third world, when Obama overturns the Mexico City Policy, will eliminate huge portions of the world???s poor. How does this result justify Catholics turning their backs on the unborn?

The bottom line is, if you deny life to any segment of humanity, you end up denying it eventually to all except your own elite group. Work for life and justice for all.

The same Guttmacher Institute study shows however that Black abortion rates declined only about 15%. Dr. Alveda King, niece of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who himself stridently denounced abortion as a form of genocide in many speeches, states that that the abortion clinics are present at a much higher rate in African-American communities and that ???Abortion is pitched to black women.." At heart, racism & genocide.
therapeutic and so black women are still having more abortions
???Abortion is pitched to black women as therapeutic and so black women are still having more abortions,

The Allan Guttmacher Institute study reports that the abortion rate has declined from its 1980 peak of 29 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44 to 20 per 1,000 in 2004, A DECLINE OF ABOUT 33 PRECENT. 1980-2004 saw three Republican Presidencies. The ability to enact laws re infants born alive, 24 hour waiting periods, total informed consent with opportunity to view ultrasound, parental notification, etc. helped.

The Allan Guttmacher Institute study reports that the abortion rate has declined from its 1980 peak of 29 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15 to 44 to 20 per 1,000 in 2004, A DECLINE OF ABOUT 33 PRECENT. 1980-2004 saw three Republican Presidencies. The ability to enact laws re infants born alive, 24 hour waiting periods, total informed consent with opportunity to view ultrasound, parental notification, etc. helped.

The authors neglect to address the very substantial issue of the Mexico City Policy. Senator Obama has vouched that one of his first executive acts would be to overturn the MCP currently in place. If the authors are , as they suggest, so interested in practical and tangible steps ordered to the end of reducing the number of aboritons, then it seems more than slightly unreasonable to support a candidate who would overturn this policy. The overturning of the MCP would directly lead to the aobrtion of millions of children in the developing world, and to thte forced sterilization of thousands upon thousands of women in the developing world. It would, of course, be egregrious to suggest that the lives of these poor and namelss children and women are less valuable simply because they are poor and not Americans. A vote for Barack Obama is not, therefore, a vote for reducing the number of abortions. It is a clear vote for drastically increasing the number of abortions in our world. That is absolutely unacceptable. posted by Mark Doherty , S.J.

This rebuttal to George Weigel's article is absurd.

Is someone tryingto suggest that the re-distribution of money to poor pregnant women will
lower the abortion rate? If so, just how much money will it take to feed, cloth, shelter, and educate the child through ..... say ... ..18 years of life? Seems to me that this road will lead to the idea that if you have a baby; you can get a check from the government to supportit. No need to worry about going to work or educating yourself tobetter your life. And, what of the father; guess he gets off the hook?....eh? After all, there is no need for him to be "punished with a baby"....right?

Geee, let's extrapolate on this pointy-headed thinking.

I guess if we give criminals whatever amount of money they want, maybe we could stop violent crime and lessen the need for capitol punishment as well (two birds with one stone). Ya know, maybe if we can
provide a better life for the old (new car, boat, RVs, and cruises to Europe); we could stop euthanasia.

Have we all gone mad with our "right to choose" that we are willing to stretch to the concept that
money is the answer? The "right to life" is a moral issue not an economic issue.

As a practicing Catholic, I see this idea as a way to ease your conscience when you pull the lever for an "out-of-the-closet" abortionist. Come-on, get real, even Obama hasn't made this assessment...yet. I say, if you are "Pro Choice" there is no need to cloud the issue or hide behind an obscure idea. Push out your chest and be proud. After all, God can still see you. He is the one to whom youwill have to ultimately answer.

This rebuttal to George Weigel???s article is absurd. Is someone trying to suggest that the re-distribution of money to poor pregnant women will lower the abortion rate? If so, just how much money will it take to feed, cloth, shelter, and educate the child through ???.. say ??? ..18 years of life? Seems to me that this road will lead to the idea that ??? if you have a baby; you can get a check from the government to support it. No need to worry about going to work or educating yourself to better your life. And, what of the father; guess he gets off the hook?....eh? After all, there is no need for him to be ???punished with a baby??????.right? Geee, let???s extrapolate on this pointy-headed thinking. I guess if we give criminals whatever amount of money they want, maybe we could stop violent crime and lessen the need for capitol punishment as well (two birds with one stone). Ya know, maybe if we can provide a better life for the old (new car, boat, RVs, and cruises to Europe); we could stop euthanasia. My God, have we all gone mad with our ???right to choose??? that we are willing to stretch to the concept that money is the answer. The ???right to life??? is a moral issue not an economic issue. As a practicing catholic, I see this idea as a way to ease your conscience when you pull the lever for an ???out-of-the-closet??? abortionist. Come-on, get real, even Obama hasn???t made this assessment???yet. I say, if you are ???Pro Choice??? there is no need to cloud the issue or hide behind an obscure idea. Push out your chest and be proud. After all, God can still see you. He is the one to whom you will have to ultimately answer.