A Catholic Brief for Obama

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  • Posted By: merrymarygardener @ 10/20/2008 8:24:57 AM

    There were 1 million abortions/year when W took office, the same amount as he leaves office. The GOP discusses abortion ONLY during an election year when they can lord it over a certain kind of voter who doesn't/can't think for him or herself. The GOP does nothing the rest of the time, completely political and hypocritical. I agree 100% with the post by changeiscoming. Barack will help with healthcare, education, wages, job creation and McCain will only help the 6% of the country who like himself, has 8 houses and 13 cars.

  • Posted By: changeiscoming @ 10/19/2008 10:54:09 PM

    All he is saying is that it's a personal choice to have an Abortion. He is not saying that he agree's with it, he's just allowing people to choose. America is made up of more faith's than Catholics, I think he's right!

  • Posted By: helenla @ 10/19/2008 2:52:00 PM

    Health care, education, taxes, etc. are all important issues but solution to these problems do not involve a rejection of the sanctity of human life the way abortion does. It is a tragic irony that "pro-choice"candidates have come to support homicide in the name of "social justice".The taking of innocent human life is so evil & absolutely opposite to the law of Godthat abortion must take precedence over every other issue. This is Catholic Doctrine and Catholics who don"t wish to follow this doctrine should look for another religion. Let's separate the wheat from the chaff. Read the Bible -- in the end the Lord will burn the chaff.

  • Posted By: EGNJ @ 10/19/2008 7:57:29 AM

    OK how about giving medical care to a live birth abortion a not so hypothetical ways to promote human life. More people will loss their jobs under Obama plan. How dose this help families?

  • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 11:38:49 PM

    Comment: Slavery was wrong. It was ended, not expanded until the 'need' for slaves was lessened. Let's get rid of abortion AND work to fix our social problems. This is the 'totality of Catholic Social Teaching' mentioned in this surprisingly silly and cowardly 'Catholic' Brief.

  • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 11:36:24 PM

    Slavery was wrong. It was ended, not expanded until the ???need??? for slaves was lessened. Let???s get rid of abortion AND work to fix our social problems. This is the ???totality of Catholic Social Teaching??? mentioned in this surprisingly silly and cowardly ???Catholic??? Brief.

  • Posted By: chris s. @ 10/18/2008 3:16:21 PM

    There are plenty of younger catholics who practice birth control and have more liberal views. They no longer abstain from meat on fridays. Get with the program.

    • Posted By: allydo791 @ 10/18/2008 11:27:16 PM

      Just becuase some Catholics chose to behave immorally is not justification to "jump on the bandwagon". They are the ones who are in fault and behaving sinfully, and that does not mean that suddenly that immoral practice becomes morally acceptable. Morality does not change with culture and society, it does not change with the times.

  • Posted By: terry t @ 10/18/2008 5:17:57 PM

    The Supreme Court rules on Roe v Wade not Senators! If you believe in the true Christ, Jesus you can not in good following of the Bible vote for abortion advocates. Re-read Pslams and see where it is written where you were "wonderfully" made in your mothers womb. Now does that sound like "punishment" that Mr. Obama called it if his daughter got pregnate??? I am amazed when people say "I am a Christian" and support abortion. It's just wrong. Millions have been killed, aren't you glad you weren't?

    • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 5:24:19 PM

      Isn't that amazing that he would want to kill his grandchildren! Not help his daughters to raise them. He certainly has the material means to help. Or maybe that is only what the Palins of this world do. But Obama is right in line with many black Americans apparently -- they must not see how genocidal the abortion industry is. The current Black population should be 33% more -- can you guess why it is not? Abortion is

      • Posted By: MissPriss @ 10/18/2008 6:17:30 PM

        When has Obama ever said he wants to kill his own grandchildren? He wants to insure healthcare for those who can't afford it. He wants to fund programs for the less fortunate. Abortion is a sin, and Obama is not Pro Abortion. He thinks it is wrong too.

        • Posted By: allydo791 @ 10/18/2008 11:19:58 PM

          You are gravely wrong in your statement that Obama thinks abortion is wrong. Obama supports FOCA, which intends to expand abortion practices and take away all federal regulation that exists now. FOCA also supports revoking all regulation over requiring parental consent for minors seeking abortion and will try to remove the "conscience-plause" protection that protects Catholic doctors from being forced to perform the sinful act. Educate yourself ...you obviously dont have any idea of what your candidate actually supports. Look up FOCA, which Obama supports on his website.

        • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 10:51:28 PM

          HIs daughter's children are his grandchildren, no? He said he would kill them (standing by and letting someone be killed is the same result as killing them yourself) when he would want his daughters to kill their babies if his daughters felt the babies were only a punishment for conceiving them unexpectedly.

    • Posted By: psnlf @ 10/18/2008 5:24:49 PM

      The question IS HOW DO WE BEST ELIMINATE ABORTIONS BY EXERCISING OUR RIGHT TO VOTE. THE ANSWER IS VOTE FOR OBAMA. As this article states, and as many many many studies have shown, outlawing abortion does not keep it from happening, it only increases maternal death. It does not save lives, but takes them! Providing education and resources is WAY more effective. Keeping people out of poverty and helping bridge adoptions (the biggest rise in abortion is in married, older women - the cause - fear they cannot afford a child!!) . OBAMA policies! Protect unborn children by VOTING FOR OBAMA

      • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 5:32:57 PM

        Ha ha ha that is so funny! Making it legal to kill babies for any reason throughout all nine months (FOCA) without any restrictions will reduce the number of pregnancies. Guess what -- the rich, the middle class, the educated, the insured -- they get abortions. "If you can't feed em (a lot), better to kill em" is not a good way to run a society. Laws tell us where the line definitely is... the line NOT to cross which is homicide.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/18/2008 9:25:20 PM

    Now this article is an oxymoron.....how do you make a Catholic case for Obama when he's a Muslim ?

    • Posted By: it's about the future @ 10/18/2008 11:12:50 PM

      Time to leave the Catholic commentary, Dude. Your agenda is elsewhere.

  • Posted By: greatmidwest @ 10/18/2008 10:32:22 PM


    There are too many unwanted children living in welfare and too many children in foster care as it stands. The hard-core Conservatives' Pro-Life stance just isn't compatible with the Bush-McCain anti-struggling middle class family tax code in America. Just about anybody including Stevie Wonder can see that!

    • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 11:11:05 PM

      Too many children suffering? So the answer is the most violent solution possible -- to kill them before they suffer? I guess so -- the Guttmacher study shows its mostly black children and poor children that get the knife. How about this: Yes, there is poverty and systemic injustice -- so work to fix it, not kill its victims. Lets rid ourselves of the racist and class-ist device of abortion, not vote for even more.

  • Posted By: a415 @ 10/18/2008 6:42:40 PM

    Amen to this article!!!

    • Posted By: allydo791 @ 10/18/2008 11:09:25 PM

      This article is incredibly misleading and cannot be used as false-agrumentation to justify a immoral act. Ask your bishops, the Archbisop Chaput of Denver and Auxiliary Bishop James Conley have both addressed the issue and have explained why a Catholic cannot cast a vote for Obama. The archdiocese website has also had articles explaining this matter. Inform yourself with information directly from the Church, and not by some idiots who wrote an article for Newsweek.

  • Posted By: catholic for obama @ 10/18/2008 8:49:31 PM

    I am a catholic supporting Obama. Regarding abortion we are getting confused ourselves by mixing faith and politics. For me faith is personal and I am pro-life in its greater meaning. I don't see a conflict with pro-choice because, once the choice is given, you decide what to do. I will choose my catholic faith and values ahead of government laws. Many people gets killed in gun violance, drugs and war. Why aren't we equally worried about those killings. I was kind of laughing when Ms. Palin talked about abortion and moral values when her teen age daughter is pregnent outside a marriage. So what I figure out was that there is no point in using moral value as a guideline to vote for a candiadate. Look at a bigger picture, look at the candidate, forget the party. Obama's vision and plan covers poor and less fortunate people. Education is in his priority list. He has a clear vision for Energy independence. Go Obama !

    • Posted By: allydo791 @ 10/18/2008 11:00:15 PM

      It is your duty, as a Catholic, to fight against immoral practices, such as abortion, and the candidates who support them. Just because a law is passed saying that a woman has the right to chose to kill her children in the womb does not mean that it suddenly becomes morally acceptable to do so. A Catholic cannot cast a vote for Obama in November. A Catholic cannot vote for a candidate who supports abortion precisely becuase it is an intrinsically evil act. This is a form of "formal cooperation" in a grave evil and is a sinful act. GO TALK TO YOUR BISHOP!! Hopefully he can clariffy this for you.

  • Posted By: LifeFirst @ 10/18/2008 10:36:11 PM

    So Barack Obama, who would kill his own grandchildren (It's your choice daughter; I don't want you to be punished, you know, so I won't fight for my grandchildrens' lives thought I am rich enough to help you) is a bleeding heart for everyone else's grandchildren? So we are sure that when push comes to shove he will fight for justice for our grandchildren's (and our) best welfare? Why don't I believe this?

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/18/2008 10:25:12 PM

    I am a Catholic pro-Life white Republican woman. I am voting for Obama.

    People forget that BOTH Obama and McCain have been pro-Choice. McCain "flip-flopped" on this issue in 2004 when he started voting 90% with Bush. Prior to 2004 McCain was pro-Choice, and he even called Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell "agents of intolerance" (which in fact they were). Since that time he has stood on a stage with Jerry Falwell, praising him. So it is impossible to know what McCain actually thinks on this issue. Is he pandering to the religious right when he vows to overturn Roe v. Wade? What is really in his heart? How would he act if he were elected? Would you get the conservative McCain you see now, the liberal leftist McCain from 1999-2004? These inconsistencies disturb me. I know there is such a thing as political expedience, but the end result is that I can not trust McCain. Nobody knows his real views on abortion.

    Furthermore, I think that Obama's position on abortion and many other issues is considerably more moderate than is generally assumed.

    To all of the conservatives out there who think that Obama is a flaming liberal, I would like to remind you of what he did when he was elected President of the Harvard Law Review. The Law Review President gets to name ten individuals to write articles for the Review, and these ten people get to control the content of the publication. All of the minorities and the liberals thought they finally had it made, that Obama would appoint ten left wing editors. Instead, Obama appointed three conservatives, three liberals and four moderates. That year the Law Review was critically acclaimed as the best run and best written Harvard publication in decades.

    So when he wins in November, conservatives don't have to freak out. Obama is a centrist and will appoint a balanced cabinet full of active people who will really get things done. This is exactly what our nation needs in this time of economic crisis.

  • Posted By: bronzee @ 10/18/2008 6:17:52 PM

    As a pro-life Christian, I have had to come to terms with the stance that our president has to be vehimently against abortion or he's "immoral." I believe that every life is sacred. But I voted for a president who said he believed that as well. However, abortion has become no less available, and the problem is still the same. At the same time, the lives of the less fortunate in this country, the lives of innocent people in the 2 countries we are at war, have proven to be unimportant to this president. I believe that life is sacred on all levels, including those who cannot fend for themselves abroad.

    I would rather Obama be pro-life. However, I believe that he truly values life, and wishes to move us closer to saving lives as we work together on this issue vs. the hard line stance of the current administration that has proven impotent in this issue. I also believe that Obama respects all human life and will work to promote a better life for all americans and people in the global community. In such an environment, where we care for the whole individual, surely, we can save more lives from the abortion table than we currently do.

    I commend this article for its ability to look at the candidate as a whole. For the moral thinking, with the way we've looked at things over the past 20 years, it's a different point of view.

    • Posted By: Gunther Hagen @ 10/18/2008 10:14:33 PM

      Abortion is not the only way to kill. Medical research has proven that lack of health insurance for example kills, as does lack of education and unemployment, each of which raise mortality. The Republican's positions on these issues, being opposed to adequate health insurance fr 40 million Americans, show no reverence for life - they are not pro-life at all. Abortion isn't the only issue that kills. I am voting my conscience: for Obama.

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/18/2008 8:19:15 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

    • Posted By: OrangeCountyCA @ 10/18/2008 9:50:59 PM

      Lest you labor under the mistaken belief that all black people favor Obama....



      http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/18/2008 8:19:26 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

    • Posted By: OrangeCountyCA @ 10/18/2008 9:50:34 PM

      Lest you labor under the mistaken belief that all black people favor Obama....



      http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/18/2008 8:19:36 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

    • Posted By: OrangeCountyCA @ 10/18/2008 9:49:56 PM

      Lest you labor under the mistaken belief that all black people favor Obama....



      http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html

      Enter Your Comment

  • Posted By: OrangeCountyCA @ 10/18/2008 9:47:40 PM

    Lest you labor under the mistaken belief that all black people favor Obama....



    http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr09-03-08.html

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 10/18/2008 9:35:05 PM

    Comment: from tiny ACORNS grow huge FRAUDS....

    By Larry Johnson
    Email: larry_johnson@earthlink.net
    Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net

    Why is Barack Obama giving ACORN $832,000 when it is a tax dead beat? (Hat tip to an intrepid NoQuarter reader.) Before Obama and Biden cast any more stones at poor Joe the Plumber for a $1200 tax lien, they might want to insist that their buddies at ACORN pony up the HALF-MILLION DOLLARS they owe the Federal Government. That???s right boys and girls, according to Louisiana State financial records, ACORN is a mega deadbeat:

    INITIAL AMOUNT: $547,312
    INITIAL DOCKET #: 424212708
    AMOUNT: $547,312
    FILING DATE: 03/10/2008
    INITIAL DATE: 03/10/2008
    UPDATE DATE: 05/07/2008
    Name SSN/EIN Address
    IRS
    PLAINTIFF
    ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR REFORM NOW
    DEBTOR
    1024 ELYSIAN FIELDS AVE
    NEW ORLEANS, LA 70117

    Of course, this raises some even more interesting questions.......

    Read rest @ NoQuarterUSA.net

    Allah Akbar Ya'll

    NOBAMA!!!

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