The Case for Barack Obama

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  • Posted By: Time for a Revolution @ 10/20/2008 10:46:56 AM

    BrotherLou, Your missive confirms that you are simply another Obamaton in the surprisingly successful, if baffling, effort to render Obama's extremely troubling past a "distraction" as the left wing spin machine coins it. This man is running to be the leader of the free world. He has already written two memoirs about himself, yet voted ???present??? over 130 times during his short tenure in the Illinois State Legislature. He will make tons of executive decisions and appointments as President. If not for a candidate's associations, past actions, and voting record, upon what premise do you propose we evaluate him? It sounds to me like you are suggesting that we abandon any concerns about Barrack's associations with the radical racist Rev. Wright, in whose church Mr. Obama sat for 20 years, William Ayers, the unrepentant domestic terrorist, the egregious history of voter registration abnormalities of ACORN, to whom Obama was counsel, etc. to the great strength of Mr. Obama's intellect and oratory skills. Surely you jest. Do you not know many individuals who possess immense knowledge, yet have not even the slightest minutiae of WISDOM? THIS is the impression I have of Mr. Obama. When Obama???s immediate response to Russia invading a sovereign nation was to capitulate???to say that we should carefully evaluate who is at fault???and announcing before the entire world in a Democratic debate that he would meet with Ahmadinejad without any preconditions, what else can an objective observer deduce? I suppose Mr. Obama's ability to deliver a platitudinous speech trumps his absolute lack of judgment in your sight. Readers are also left to assume that, since history is not a factor in your view, Mr. McCain's military experience and his willingness to be tortured for 5 years in a Vietnamese prison is also moot. Personally, I find this an incredible resume enhancer about which McCain has been surprisingly humble.

    • Posted By: Liberalass @ 10/20/2008 3:59:42 PM

      Sure glad i went to University Masaa, but you do talk a lotta dem big words but to a man of wisdom such as myself, TOTAL NONSENSE, all your arguments are way irrelevant and could be used for both candidates, Obama has Wright well McCain has Parsley, oh yes Wright too has an astounding Military record. You hammer on preconditions but i am yet to see anything being achieved in Gaza after all the 'peace talk' and preconditions dictated by the present administration and if preconditions had not been dubiouslly set aside in North Korea, nothing would have been achieved yet, but then have you ever known any president to go out into the field without setting terms of engagement first? That comment was made as a presidential candidate not as a president.
      Truth is, had there been other better options for candidacy other than McCain to run against Obama, this race might have beem more interesting and might have gone against Obama, but i just cant seem to get beyond seeing Bush each time i look at McCain, and I for one need a break from that type of administration.

  • Posted By: Gilver @ 10/20/2008 3:32:16 PM

    To funny to read this Right Wing religious fanatics... They can't stand the fact that more than 50% of Americans like Obama.. Your beloved Georgie boy, got us into these mess and I'll be happy y to see Dick and George go... Now they'll have all the time in the world to look for weapons of mass destruction. They can also take Sara Palin with them her executive experience can be a great ASS-set..

    • Posted By: quincyadams @ 10/20/2008 3:55:40 PM

      good one gulliver

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/20/2008 3:48:06 PM

    The choice is clear. Only McCain has a record of reform. Only he can curb the excesses of a Democratic Congress. Do we really want the likes of Rep. Conyers, Rep. Barney Frank, Dennis Kucinich, Rep. Rangel, Speaker Pelosi, Senator Schumann setting the course for the next two years?

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/20/2008 3:43:59 PM

    I must admit Kool Aid is better than watermelon, fried chicken, and ribs. Don't think for a moment however, that no one understands its underlying connotations. Never once (except after this blog maybe) has ANYONE drank McCain's Kool Aid. Is it past its expiration date?

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/20/2008 3:40:53 PM

    Who "Joe the plumber" may be is not the issue, though it's easy to see why the Dems want it to be. That's because the real issue is what Obama's comments to him revealed about Obama. In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" we find out that Obama really is as radical as his early political acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, etc., and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    And whether McCain won or lost the third debate is also not relevant. He succeeded in the first half hour to plant the seeds of a Reagan style wipeout. Reputable historians and economists overwhelmingly agree that the taxation imposed by Hoover and FDR, and the "stimulus" spending and public works programs of FDR, actually deepened and prolonged the Great Depression. It was the production demands of WWII that got the economy going again. And when the war was over, the economy promptly went into recession.

    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

    Point is, Obama's programs are tax, and it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/20/2008 3:40:42 PM


    Look and listen for yourself. Hear Obama in his own words discusses his links to both ACORN and the mortgage meltdown, and praises bundling and securitizing mortgages by banks as a means to float loans to the poor. Never mind the link commentators point of view, just listen to what Obama says in his own words. A picture is worth a thousand words. Maybe more in the case of the last half of the second link.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

    See also:
    http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=808692&boardsparam=Page%3d2

    This is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    The link below contains a purported list of the top 25 in Congress who got contributions from the folks at Fannie and Freddie. Obama is listed third, after Dodd and Kerry, even though Obama is just a junior Senator. Obama is followed next by Clinton. Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi are on the list as well.

    http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080918

    And the link below describes how some Democrats in Congress tried to use the original version of the bailout bill to divert money eventually recovered to groups like ACORN, a group Obama has a long association with. See:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  • Posted By: chieftrainer @ 10/20/2008 11:40:43 AM

    Referring to McCain, you say, "His responses have been a recitation of old slogans???cut taxes, limit the government, cut spending???that are largely irrelevant to today's problems. " Are you really that ignorant about basic economics? Do you you fill out your own tax forms? Do you balance your checkbook? And then you are starry-eved and swoon over Obama. Amazing how tight your blinders are.

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/20/2008 1:17:31 PM


      Do YOU balance your checkbook? If anyone runs their finances the way this country has been running it's budget they'd be BROKE! And guess what, this country is almost there. You can't put everything on the card and act surprised when the bill comes in the mail.

      Taxes have to go up for people over 250K because someone has spent the last eight years giving Paris Hilton a tax break and NOT catching Bin Laden.

      • Posted By: Liberalass @ 10/20/2008 3:29:32 PM

        Well said, most people feel they understand how the economy works, wonder why many are surprised at the state the financial institutions are in now when a real economist would have seen all these woes rearing their heads more evidently atleats 3-4 years ago.
        Infinity is a mind-state and one sure property money doesn't have, money has to come from somewhere and where better than taxation, with the move the different governments have made to correct the markets world-wide, it is even more relevant and necessary. All these have been attempts to push the woes till a future date, the markets should have been given more time to correct themselves before bringing out the big guns, now none of the issues that really led to the breakdown has really been dealt with.
        I hope Obama wins the election, atleast he is intelligent, doesnt talk or look all-strung out, and out of his depths like McCain, but then a lot of 'knowledgeable ' people did vote Bush in for second term, i wonder how the economy is treating them now, anything is possible.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 10/20/2008 2:43:10 PM

        Amen! I don't understand why people are believing that McCain will cut taxes. Cut them from what? Bush already cut taxes! We need money to dig us out of the hole...we just bailed out Wall Street to the tune of 800 billion...where do McCain's supporters think that money comes from???

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/20/2008 3:28:51 PM

    Smear, Smear, Smear. I'm amazed that the same people that state Obama will socialize heathcare mssed everytime Barack looked in the camera and said if you HAVE healthcare, KEEP IT. Under a socialist society you would not have this freedom.

  • Posted By: NationalNightmare @ 10/20/2008 3:16:42 PM

    McCain is the wrong man for this job. Palin is the wrong woman for this job. Obama, yes, Biden, yes. I'm looking for intelligence, steadiness, and someone who can work with the rest of the world, not offend it as Bush and Cheney did, and as no doubt McCain and Palin will. For anyone who still wants an angry idiot as president...you just did not learn anything in the last 8 years. Obama/Biden '08

  • Posted By: NationalNightmare @ 10/20/2008 3:16:28 PM

    McCain is the wrong man for this job. Palin is the wrong woman for this job. Obama, yes, Biden, yes. I'm looking for intelligence, steadiness, and someone who can work with the rest of the world, not offend it as Bush and Cheney did, and as no doubt McCain and Palin will. For anyone who still wants an angry idiot as president...you just did not learn anything in the last 8 years. Obama/Biden '08

  • Posted By: fozziebird @ 10/20/2008 3:05:08 PM

    Obama has been even keeled in large part due to the fact that the press, including you, have failed to press him on any issue or taken even a moment to investigate his past. Obama cruises through know that the press, including you, have his back. It is ironic that we now know more about "Joe the Plumber" than Obama. I agree with Biden that Obama will be tested by a terrorist group or Iran or Russia in the first six months of his Presidency. I also agree with Biden's implicit statement that American's will not be pleased with his performance. Essentailly, Obama will be found wanting. His economic plan is a disaster and we will learn for how many years Obama can blame Bush for Obama's failings. We are about to go through a rough period, likely worst than any since the great depression and our mettle is going to be tested.

  • Posted By: worldsfairdesign @ 10/20/2008 2:30:06 PM

    >>Posted By: reallyfedup @ 10/20/2008 12:13:38 PM

    >>Comment: It's precisely when too many people start to
    >>believe that there is such a thing as "fresh thinking"
    >>and "new realities" that we all go running off a cliff.
    >>Reality NEVER changes, human nature NEVER changes.
    >>There hasn't been any fresh ideas in the last 2000
    >>years. We just forget the past and believe someone is
    >>genius when they resurect the same stupid ideas that
    >>have always proved wrong in the past. What has caused
    >>our present crisis is greed, arrogance and lack of
    >>vigilance. It ALWAYS leads to the same result, crisis.
    >>Sen. McCain's may be from a bygone era but they have
    >>the virtue of being correct. Despite his youth Sen.
    >>Obama's ideas are also from a bygone era and they have
    >>proven wrong in every era.




    You've got to be kidding me. Reaganomics has been correct? This economic crisis began in 1980 when your utopian Friedman-omics and Goldwater conservativism was bought hook line and sinker by a gullible electorate.

    Did you read Zakaria's article? Its not old Leftist ideas, its new practical ideas - green technology, education reform, and realistic foreign policy in the context of globalization. If McCain were dealing with these issues he might stand a chance. You're right, its impossible to change society completely. Hence, Obama is not talking about a Leftist conspiracy to overthrow American life. That would be unrealistic, stupid, and evil, none of which obama is. It would be almost as stupid as trying for 30 years to engineer a Right Wing conspiracy based on Neoconservatism, Neoliberalism and Evangelicalism.

    • Posted By: CBCSGA @ 10/20/2008 3:04:36 PM

      You've got to be kidding me! One name... Carter. Obama's policies are right in line with his. Maybe you don't remember buying a house with a 21% interest rate.... or waiting in line 2 hours for a tank of gas. I'll take Reaganseconomic "crisis" over the Carter one any day.

  • Posted By: DaveN007 @ 10/20/2008 3:00:56 PM

    Mr Zakaria-

    Telling us that you are an Obama supporter as though you have left any question about your political leanings is beyond funny. We know, Fareed, we know. That is why Newsweek keeps getting thinner and thinner. With fewer and fewer readers. Try making your points without hiding behind the pretense of objectivity.

  • Posted By: Clifton Street @ 10/20/2008 3:00:46 PM

    Trickle down economics no longer works in today's business environment. It may have been valid in Reagan's time but it is stale now. It would only work if we live in a closed economic society and the wealthy re-invested in the US. Today, the wealthy who save money through tax cuts are more likely to invest overseas. The money is "trickling down" to workers in China.

  • Posted By: DaveN007 @ 10/20/2008 2:57:15 PM

    Mr. Zakaria,

    Telling us that you are an Obama supporter is a waste of ink. We know. We know.



  • Posted By: thomshep2242 @ 10/20/2008 8:46:34 AM

    ???My Argument for Obama??? is another example of the beautifully written, well-reasoned essays Fareed Zakaria has been delivering for years. Yesterday I picked up his book, The Future of Freedom, and was immediately swept up by its wise premise (you can't equate democracy with freedom) and his unmuddled prose. But the real reason I???m writing is to point out that if Mr. Zakaria's son ever decided to enter public life, there is another great American ???Omar??? in our history: General Omar Nelson Bradley. I hope I live long enough to see names like "Barack" and "Fareed" added without fanfare to a generation of American kids of many different religions and ethnicities.

    • Posted By: Iconoblaster @ 10/20/2008 2:45:03 PM

      Absolutely! Here's to the coming day when it won't matter whether your name is Omar, Juan, Jack, LeVon or Yasuo... or for that matter, Ashara, Elizabeth or Kiki...because we'll be electing people based on their stated positions and their credentials. A better world...."Where America lives out the true meaning of its creed". Amen.

  • Posted By: krohn2 @ 10/20/2008 2:44:09 PM

    That's why I think it is a joke that Obama is getting a boost from this whole economic crisis. This guy is more slippery than Teflon Don! Nothing sticks! When you have unlimited resources from multi Billionaires like George soros that can buy the media for you, you can get away with murder because nobody will ever know about it! George Soros finally found a candidate that could be bought. A guy with no qualifications but with an excessive ego who actually thinks it's all about him when he is only a pawn in Soro's game to play God with the whole world and shape it to his whim! Do you know how the Obama camp is going to get more votes on election day? His task force is going to go into poor neighborhoods offering cigarettes, money and maybe even drugs to street thugs in exchange for their votes. Colin Powell is talking about his endorsement of Obama because of his "steadiness". When you are confident that the election is bought and payed for of course you are going to be "steady", whatever that means. He does not have to prove himself or do much work like he demonstrated in the last debate!

  • Posted By: reallyfedup @ 10/20/2008 12:13:38 PM

    It's precisely when too many people start to believe that there is such a thing as "fresh thinking" and "new realities" that we all go running off a cliff. Reality NEVER changes, human nature NEVER changes. There hasn't been any fresh ideas in the last 2000 years. We just forget the past and believe someone is a genius when they resurect the same stupid ideas that have always proved wrong in the past. What has caused our present crisis is greed, arrogance and lack of vigilance. It ALWAYS leads to the same result, crisis. Sen. McCain's may be from a bygone era but they have the virtue of being correct. Despite his youth Sen. Obama's ideas are also from a bygone era and they have proven wrong in every era.

    • Posted By: worldsfairdesign @ 10/20/2008 2:32:27 PM

      You've got to be kidding me. Reaganomics has been correct? This economic crisis began in 1980 when your utopian Friedman-omics and Goldwater conservativism was bought hook line and sinker by a gullible electorate.

      Did you read Zakaria's article? Its not old Leftist ideas, its new practical ideas - green technology, education reform, and realistic foreign policy in the context of globalization. If McCain were dealing with these issues he might stand a chance. You're right, its impossible to change society completely. Hence, Obama is not talking about a Leftist conspiracy to overthrow American life. That would be unrealistic, stupid, and evil, none of which obama is. It would be almost as stupid as trying for 30 years to engineer a Right Wing conspiracy based on Neoconservatism, Neoliberalism and Evangelicalism.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/20/2008 2:43:43 PM


        Excellent response, worldsfair. Zakaria admitted he was a Reagan fan during the 1980s because, as he said, he had been fed up with excessive government intervention in his native India. But it only takes a reasonable person to realize that a middle road is the answer. It should be added that while Reagan was unable to pass his entire agenda (die to a Democratic held congress in the '80s) Bush had for six years a Republican rubber-stamp congress which passed his entire agenda. Reganomics was given a chance from 2001-07 to work and it failed miserably.

        I also have to give a shout out to reallyfedup, because even if we disagree with him, he is at least making an attempt at arguing reasonably, unlike the vast majority of McCain supporters here.

        Cheers!

  • Posted By: Butterfly Effect @ 10/20/2008 2:42:38 PM

    NOBoma - teh God of Crackhead Welfare. The Robbing Hood that steals from the deligent and gives to the lazy. Via the U.S. of France!!!!!!

    Watch out for the murky tax cut NOboma keeps talking about. After Bush tax cut expires in 2010, the tax goes back to Clinton rates (that marked the largest increase in US history). Zeus may give us a break from that rate - but your taxes will increase over what you paid for the last eight years (by alot).

    Under NOboma small business get a tax break that will create alot of jobs like hamburger flippers and secretarys. So you can replace the $75,000 job you lost when NOboma overburdeneds the private sector.

    Top 5% of tax returners pay 60% of all the tax. I hope these people move their busness to another country because the incentive is not there any more. Good for crack heads
    The NObomer model is socialist France - a now non-entity.

    NOboma is in so deep with that he'll need to print money to payoff all his special interest groups. A la Carter - inflation, raising unemployment, double digit interest rates (because of dempocrapic fannie mae (lets put every crackhead in a house)government Frankenstein.

    Thats right! Four years of fingerpointing and distaster -and you better hope that NOboma doesnt get a 9/11 thrown in because he will fall down badly - Worse than Carter.

    Anybody who would pick political science major (memorizer) over a fighter pilot is a tard. Go ahead lazy people, vote your God of welfare
    because, under Nobomer, if the you have a SS card you they get a free check so you can buy more crack. Thats right! Reward the lazy and punish the deligent.

    PS. NOboma would be rejected by the FBI
    if he applied as an agent because of his past associations. This means that he couldn't make the cut as a Secret Service Agent to protect the President!

  • Posted By: ajgronn @ 10/20/2008 2:40:26 PM

    Sadly, you don't comment on the differences between the two candidates when it comes to free trade. Even you seem at this moment to be more interested in "siding with the winner" than going into what you have earlier warned about, - when you warned about the worlds reaction to the protectionist policies that Democrats in Congress, and not the least Obama, is advocating. Sorry, this is not good enough.

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