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We’re Heading Left Once Again

The test for the next president is whether he can use the powers of government to act on behalf of Americans. That's a liberal idea.

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  • Posted By: fidel33134 @ 01/30/2009 10:43:12 PM

    Wishful thinking by Alter a lobotomized lefty. A recent study out of MIT demonstrates without doubt that obama's election was not the product of some transformational shift in the electorate. In fact , with one key exception, there was no difference in the 2008 election from the elections in prior years. For example, the much hyped youth vote did not turnout, as was the case in past, recent elections and voted in the same percentages. Indeed, the only m,aterial change, which was the difference in the election, was that the black vote, was far greater than in prior elections and voted democrat in even higher percentages than previously. Much of it wasnt even fraudulent, nws the best efforts of urban pols and acorn. Just an understandable racial affinity vote, not a quantum shift to the left.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 6:29:35 PM

    In this video, Obama, who claims he has "no ties with Acorn" notwithstanding the $800,000 paid to an Acorn group during the primaries, is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other Community Activist's organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President and pledge to meet with leaders of Acorn and the others in his first year, Obama says, quote:

    "Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition, we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda."

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama promised that Acorn and a couple of other groups like it will setting his agenda if elected even before he is inaugurated:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 9:22:11 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    Hear Obama in 2001 Chicago Public Citizen Radio Interview criticizing the Warren Court as not radical enough for not pursuing redistribution of wealth.

    Obama Says that community organizing is for the purpose of assembling the political power to force redistribution of wealth.

  • Posted By: rogerhall @ 10/27/2008 12:02:25 AM

    The questions were based on cherry-picked quotes, and Joe Biden handled that interview with respect and class. I agree, watch the video. Then think about Sarah Palin's inability to even start answering the tough questions presented to her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/26/2008 8:23:37 PM

    This is real simple economics. How many full-time employees with benefits does a person with a $50,000 income personally employ? For most, none. How many does a person with $250,000 employ? One less under Obama's tax plan, two less if you include Obam's health plan.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/26/2008 3:36:14 PM

    "Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported. In a communication which serves to put all other media on notice that an Obama administration will exercise media blackmail in response to tough questioning, the Obama camp killed a WFTV interview with Biden's wife Jill, according to an Orlando Sentinel blog.

    "This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/10/obama-campaign.html

    See the interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM


  • Posted By: neppy @ 10/26/2008 1:22:48 PM

    MAI - yeah vote for lethal injection instead.

  • Posted By: MAI in NY @ 10/26/2008 9:35:36 AM

    Obama promises to support FOCA. The Freedom of Choic Act which would invalidate all of the major types of pro-life laws that have been upheld by the Supreme Court in the decades since Roe including Partial Birth Abortion.. (Partial birth abourtion is when a baby is partially delivered ( legs and arms) while the neck is still inside the mother and the baby is turned on its back so the doctor can make a hole in the back of the neck where he cuts the baby's main blood supply to the brain. If the baby is still alive the doctor inserts a suction to suck out the babies brain through that same hole. ) Don't support this murderous act with your vote.

    McCain/Palin '08

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 8:05:13 PM

    Obama in this video is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other Community Activist's organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President and pledge to meet with leaders of Acorn and the others present at the convention in his first year, Obama says, quote:

    "Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition, we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda."

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama has promised that Acorn and other groups like it will a part of his transition and setting his agenda if elected:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:59:35 PM

    CANADIANS HAVE REALIZED THAT SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK. WE JUST VOTED IN A PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT AGAIN. IT???S THE EQUIVALENT TO YOUR REPUBLICAN PARTY. CANADIANS ARE GETTING FED UP WITH RISING TAXES TO SUPPORT SOCIAL PROGRAMS LIKE EMPLOYMENT INSURANCE AND WELFARE. THESE ARE PROGRAMS WITH GOOD INTENTIONS BUT THEN TOO MANY PEOPLE BOTHERED NOT LOOKING FOR WORK AND OTHERS WERE CHEATING THE SYSTEM JUST TO COLLECT "FREE" MONEY.

    OUR ECONOMY STARTED SUFFERING, THE MIDDLE CLASS WAS BEING SQUEEZED AND BUSINESSES WERE DOWNSIZING OR CLOSING. THATS WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOCIALISM WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA WANTS TO IMPOSE ON THE USA...AT THE WORST POSSIBLE ECONOMIC TIME ON TOP OF THAT....OBAMA IS ABSOLUTELY NUTS !! HE'S GONNA SMASH THE USA TO BITS!

    AND YES, SAME PROBLEMS WITH OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. WE KEEP PUMPING IN TAX DOLLARS YET THE GOVERNMENT IS MESSING IT UP AND THE UNIONIZED WORKERS IN THE HOSPITALS ARE LAZY AND PROVIDE LOUSY SERVICE. IN CANADA YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE PRIVATE MEDICAL CLINICS OPENING UP WHERE CANADIANS WITH MONEY CAN GO FOR IMMEDIATE HEALTHCARE. MORE OFTEN,
    CANADIANS WHO CAN AFFORD IT GO TO THE STATES FOR IMMEDIATE HIGH QUALITY HEALTH CARE BECAUSE IF THEY STAY HOME AND WAIT THEY WOULD DIE.

    CANADIANS VOTED A GOVERNMENT THAT IS ON THE RIGHT TWO TIMES IN A ROW NOW. WE KNOW SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK.....DON'T KNOW WHAT ON EARTH THE AMERICANS ARE DOING GOING DOWN THE SOCIALIST PATH DURING THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS OF ALL THINGS. OBAMA IS A VERY UNWISE RADICAL....BETTER WAKE UP FOLKS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE...AND THAT???S NO JOKE.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:58:42 PM

    GUESS WHO THE UNIONS DONATED $300,000,000.00 TO? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO WANTS TO "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" & RAISE TAXES? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO JOE BIDEN SAYS IS NOT READY TO BE PRESIDENT? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHY FINANCE MARKETS ARE STILL REACTING NEGATIVELY? - OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO STARTED THEIR POLITICAL CAREER IN A TERRORIST'S HOME? -OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO SAYS US TROOPS AIR RAIDED VILLAGES & KILLED CIVILIANS? -OBAMA!

    GUESS WHO VOTED VS A BILL TO PROTECT BABIES BORN ALIVE IN ABORTION? -OBAMA!

    GOD BLESS AMERICA.....HERE'S YOUR NEW PRESIDENT....ENJOY!!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:58:10 PM

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL SUFFER FROM THE "NOBAMA EFFECT???...TOO BAD...HE WILL LOSE!!

    TODAY, AT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S DAMAGE CONTROL PRESS CONFERENCE HE ATTRIBUTED TO JOE BIDEN'S "RHETORICAL FLOURISHES" RELATING TO HIM NOT ABLE TO HANDLE THE PENDING CRISIS IF HE WERE ELECTED. OBAMA MADE HIS BEST ATTEMPT TO SPIN HIS WAY OUT OF THIS BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE BUYING THIS BS ARE THE NO BRAINS OBAMABOTS.

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA GOES ON TO PROMOTE HIS ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY OF "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" SO THAT HE CAN CREATE AN AMERICAN SOCIETY WHERE ALL CITIZENS ARE AS EQUALS AND ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IN ORDER TO PURSUE PERSONAL PROSPERITY. WELL, IN OTHER WORDS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS TELLING TO EVERY AMERICAN'S FACE THAT HE WILL BE "DICTATING" YOUR PERSONAL FINANCES. AND ALL YOU GUYS ARE EATING IT ALL UP.

    THIS POLITICAL DOCTRINE THAT OBAMA WILL IMPLEMENT IS KNOWN AS SOCIALISM, MARXISM, COMMUNISM, OR WHATEVER TERM ONE WANTS TO USE...BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS AN AFFRONT TO THE FOUNDATION OF AMERICA...CAPITALISM.

    TO IMPOSE THESE DRACONIAN MEASURES SUCH AS RAISING TAXES TO SUPPORT THOSE IN SOCIETY WHO DO NOT EVEN WANT TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES BUT OBAMA DECLARES "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" WILL LEAD TO AN ECONOMIC ABYSS.

    IS THIS THE IDEOLOGY OBAMA ADOPTED FROM HIS CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH WILLIAM AYERS WHO ALSO IS A BIG PROPONENT OF MARXISM?

    AMERICANS, IF INDICATIONS ARE CORRECT AND OBAMA GETS ELECTED, IT WILL PROVE TO BE THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW THAT AMERICA REGRETS WHO THEY ELECTED AS PRESIDENT.

    AN OLD WISE MAN ONCE SAID ..." BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ...."

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:57:33 PM

    You're really in the tank with Obama and the rest of the left-wing radical Marxist media networks. Too bad. I can't believe a bloody word you say because it???s total garbage.

    Anybody who supports Obama is anti-American, a Marxist Socialist and a terrorist sympathizer. Its documented that Obama was influenced by Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, Frank Davis Marshall, Pflegger, Louis Farrakhan, Tony Rezko, PLO terrorist , etc., all of these people who Obama takes his talking points from and incorporates into his stump speeches and then communicates this to the American people in a tone like a Martin Luther King. Barack Hussein Obama is dangerous, he has an agenda and a bunch of dumb Americans like you Jonathon Alter are voting for him. You should be ashamed of yourselves for the great harm you are about to subject your country to.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:56:27 PM

    THERE IS NO JOURNALISM IN THE USA ....JUST NAZI 'I LOVE TO FRENCH KISS' NEO MARXIST OBAMA PROPAGANDA MACHINE ....GOODBYE GOOD OL USA AND HELLO
    BANANA REPUBLIC....THERE'S MORE FAIR AND BALANCED JOURNALISM FOUND IN
    CASTRO'S CUBA OR PUTIN'S RUSSIA!!

    SIGNED

    INTERNATIONAL WATCHDOG OF JOURNALISM ETHICS IN WESTERN DEMOCRACIES

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:55:54 PM

    FOR WHAT ITS WORTH....CANADA WAS UNDER A SOCIALIST TAX POLICY THAT WE SHOOK OFF BUT THE USA FOR SOME INSANE REASON WANT TO EMBRACE IT IN THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS.

    IN CANADA, SOCIALIST PARTIES LIKE THE LIBERAL PARTY AND THE NDP (NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY)
    ARE OUT OF FAVOUR. THEY 'VE RAISED TAXES TO SUPPORT SOCIAL PROGRAMS LIKE WELFARE, INTRODUCED POLICIES TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNIONIZE ETC., THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLS TO THIS DAY ITS OWN NATIONAL TV BROADCAST NETWORK CALLED THE CBC. FURTHERMORE THEY HAVE FEDERAL POLICY IN PLACE THAT CONTROLS THE AMOUNT OF FOREIGN CONTENT THAT MEDIA OULETS LIKE RADIO AND TELEVISION CAN BROADCAST. IT MUST COMPLY WITH A SPECIFIED AMOUNT OF CANADIAN CONTENT.

    WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IN THE USA IS THAT THEY ARE ADOPTING SOCIALISM WHICH MIRRORS OBAMA'S POLICY HE IS SELLING TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. WHY DOES THE USA WANT TO GO DOWN THE SOCIALIST CANADIAN ROAD? WE CANADIANS JUST VOTED IN A CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT TO THE USA'S REPUBLICAN PARTY ....TO GET TAXES LOWERED AND REDUCE WELFARE BECAUSE IT ENCOURAGES SECTORS OF SOCIETY TO NOT LOOK FOR WORK. IT WAS A DRAG ON THE CANADIAN ECONOMY BUT OUR COUNTRY HAS IMPROVED ECONOMICALLY BY MOVING AWAY FROM THIS IDEOLOGY BUT THE STATES IN ALL THEIR WISDOM ARE MOVING TO THE LEFT-WING SOCIALISM AGENDA....AND I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:55:19 PM

    WHEN OBAMA WAS IN TAMPA BAY ON HIS CAMPAIGN STUMP HE SAYS HE???S CHEERING THE DEVIL RAYS.

    WHEN OBAMA WAS IN PHILADELPHIA ON HIS CAMPAIGN STUMP HE SAY???S HE???S CHEERING THE PHILLIES.

    WHAT HAPPENED TO OBAMA???S ???WE DON???T NEED DOUBLE-TALKIN POLITICIANS ANYMORE IN DC????

    OBAMA SAYS HE???S A WHITE SOX FAN...ASK HIM TO NAME SOMEONE ON THE TEAM...HE DOESN???T KNOW.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:54:50 PM

    NBC=ACORN=LEFT-WING NUTJOBS=ANTI-AMERICAN=NY TIMES=SOCIALISM=CNN=OBAMA

    DOES ANYONE DISPUTE THIS? ....THOUGHT SO ....ENJOY REID=PELOSI=OBAMA REGIME FOR THE NEXT 4 YEARS...YIKES!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/25/2008 6:54:16 PM

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL SUFFER FROM THE "NOBAMA EFFECT???...TOO BAD...HE WILL LOSE!!

    TODAY, AT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S DAMAGE CONTROL PRESS CONFERENCE ATTRIBUTED TO
    JOE BIDEN'S "RHETORICAL FLOURISHES" RELATING TO OBAMA NOT ABLE TO HANDLE THE PENDING CRISIS IF HE WERE ELECTED. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA GOES ON TO PROMOTE HIS ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY OF "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" SO THAT HE CAN CREATE AN AMERICAN SOCIETY WHERE ALL CITIZENS ARE AS EQUALS AND ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IN ORDER TO PURSUE PERSONAL PROSPERITY. WELL, IN OTHER WORDS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS TELLING TO EVERY AMERICAN'S FACE THAT HE WILL BE "DICTATING" YOUR PERSONAL FINANCES. AND ALL YOU GUYS ARE EATING IT ALL UP.

    THIS POLITICAL DOCTRINE THAT OBAMA WILL IMPLEMENT IS KNOWN AS SOCIALISM, MARXISM, COMMUNISM, OR WHATEVER TERM ONE WANTS TO USE...BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS IS AN AFFRONT
    TO THE FOUNDATION OF AMERICA...CAPITALISM.

    TO IMPOSE THESE DRACONIAN MEASURES SUCH AS RAISING TAXES TO SUPPORT THOSE IN SOCIETY WHO DO NOT EVEN WANT TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES BUT OBAMA DECLARES "SPREAD THE WEALTH AROUND" WILL LEAD TO AN ECONOMIC ABYSS.

    IS THIS THE IDEOLOGY OBAMA ADOPTED FROM HIS CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH WILLIAM AYERS WHO ALSO IS A BIG PROPONENT OF MARXISM?

    AMERICANS, IF INDICATIONS ARE CORRECT AND OBAMA GETS ELECTED, IT WILL PROVE TO BE THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW THAT AMERICA REGRETS WHO THEY ELECTED AS PRESIDENT.

    AN OLD WISE MAN ONCE SAID ..." BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ...."

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 6:06:03 PM


    See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html


    And again what was Frank saying at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."

    So who really is the liar that soaked the American people?

    See also: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/08/politics/main2335631.shtml

    In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" we found out that Obama really is as radical as his early political acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, etc., and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Their failed policies are what brought us to ruin. Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
    Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

    Obama's programs require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.
    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 3:31:02 PM

    What do you really know about Obama???s economic philosophy? Since he has never run a town, state or business, he has no record to look at. Oh, he has made lots of promises, but given that he broke his promise to be limited to public campaign funds, you can???t put much faith in that, and there will be means to keep those promises anyway.

    But you do know that Obama, along with his democratic buddies in Congress, personally and professionally advocated for a residential housing policy favoring forced sub-prime lending, which subsequently resulted in massive defaults and foreclosures, leading to your loss of significant equity value in your home, to the point that it destabilized your banks, which panicked the stock market, which wiped out your savings.

    Look and listen to Obama for yourself. Obama in this video, addressing his community activist work and his work representing ACORN in litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, and addressing the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as those actions relate to the destruction of our economy by causing the current real estate and subsequent financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

    Acknowledging the catastrophe, but as apologist for the Democrats, Obama then offers this justification.

    "The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

    Yah, great idea. Economically unsound, but embraced by Obama. Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

    Below is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

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