Wow I love how the Obama and the left wing news media has hammered home the illusion of the FAILED POLICIES of the last 8 years. Well put this in your pipe and smoke it.
7 1/2 YEARS OF GEORGE BUSH
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first
six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars,taking cruises,
vacations overseas, living large!...
But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006
they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline reached $4 a gallon.
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM
THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE...AND WE SURE GOT IT!
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REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE
US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?
It’s Not Easy Bein’ Blue
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Posted By: taxpayer1954 @ 10/23/2008 6:25:21 PM
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 7:12:09 PM
I'be seen this b.s. argument argument in a couple different places.. time to deal with it... 1st.. tell me you do NOT think the congress that began Jan, 2007 is to blame for the collapse of 2008. Please allow me to point out to you that 1) the republican IN congress acted as obstructionist ALL THE WAY THROUGH this term. they have put up A RECORD NUMBER of FILIBUSTERS to block ANYTHING they did not want to go through. and then... if something slipped through in a bi-partisan way, BUSH would VETO it. Now... going back to the previous 6 years... there was basically single party rule in this country. The house, the senate, and the white house. ALL republican ruled. And they ran roughshod over this country. every single piece of legislation passed was partisan. THEY WOULDN'T EVEN ALLOW DEMOCRATICALLY SPONSORED BILLS TO 'COME' TO THE FLOOR. (how very American). But from the Bankruptcy bill (that they allowed the credit card companies to write, to the energy bill (that they allowed phil gramm and the enerfy companys to write, to the healthcare legislation (that they allowd the pharmaceutical companys to write)... IT WAS ALL ABOUT BIG BUSINESS, AND SQUAT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SENT THEM THERE. THESE are the policys that have brought this great country to her knees. and as referenced above... anything that the Dems tried to reverse in 2007 WAS BLOCKED... you can try to run from the ABYSMAL record of the republican party of the last 8 years, but my eyes are open, and i SEE you for what you are... carpet bagging criminals, who at this very moment continue to STEAL from America's treasury, while smiling with a phony halo taped to the back of your head.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 7:22:19 PM
stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 7:12:09 PM. Here's the lead of a New York Times story on September 30, 1999:
"Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending" [link below]. That's 1999 folks. Clinton Administration, I believe.
Here's the lead of a New York Times story on Sept. 11, 2003:
"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago. "[see link below] The Democrats killed the reforms.
McCain said in co-sponsoring the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190:
"If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole. The Democrats killed the Bill. It is indeed a FACTUAL claim that democrats blocked the bill from coming. It was voted on in committee in the Senate, requiring a 60% vote to go to the floor. 11 Republicans for, 9 democrats against., thats 55%, bill halted.
What was Barney Frank and fellow Democrats saying at the time of these attempted reforms? According to reports, Representative Barney Frank(D-MA) claimed of the thrifts :
"These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."
Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added of the reforms "I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing." [ See Community Reinvestment Act, link below w/ history]-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/24/2008 2:59:26 AM
Now, (and as usual for republicans when faced with facts), you are changing your story. which is it.. CLINTON,, or the less than 2 year old Democratic congress with an obstructionist-record-filibustering- republican opposition. settle on one.. and make your argument.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 7:20:54 PM
See also:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080918
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=M2QwNDhkZTg2OGYzZjkzM2E2NDEwM2U5OGVkNTc0YzU=
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080926
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj-
Posted By: radamus @ 10/23/2008 8:05:16 PM
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are not the principal cause of the current financil crisis. If their had been proper oversight of the original mortgage originators, which the Democrats wanted and the Republicans fought, their would not have been anything like the problem we have now. In addition if there had been oversight of the derivatives market, which the Democrats wanted and the Republicans fought, the problem could have been fixed there. This whole mess is without doubt a Republican problem and not a Democrat problem.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 7:21:53 PM
Even Bill Clinton points to liberal Congressional Democrats??? protection of Fannie and Freddie from scrutiny as a primary cause of the current economic meltdown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
To prove Bill Clinton's point, this is a link to a C-SPAN video clip of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix fannie and freddie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
The link below contains a purported list of the top 25 in Congress who got contributions from the folks at Fannie and Freddie. Obama is listed third, after Dodd and Kerry, even though Obama is just a junior Senator. Obama is followed next by Clinton. Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi are on the list as well.
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080918
Then there is the Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher J. Dodd who allegedly got special mortgage deals from Countrywide, who gave preferential rates to 'friends' of company's chairman.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25140560/
For an interesting article purporting to detail the House Financial Services Committee Chairs long history with Fannie Mae, See http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
"House Financial Services Committee Chair promoted GSEs while former 'spouse' was Fannie Mae executive."
The link below describes how some in Congress tried to use the original version of the bailout bill to divert money eventually recovered to groups like ACORN, a group Obama has a long association with. See:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
And then there is House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who allegedly has directed nearly $100,000 from her political action committee to her husband's real estate and investment firm.
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/01/pelosis-pac-pays-bills-for-spouses-firm.
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Posted By: radamus @ 10/23/2008 7:21:29 PM
The Democrats currently in congress don???t have anywhere near a veto proof majority, so Bush and the Republicans, for the most part, are still in a position to be calling the shots. Even if that weren???t the case, it???s abundantly clear that the problems the country is having now are a direct result of the Republicans/Bush policies of the previous six years. The American people realize that, which is why it looks like the Republicans will be taking a beating this year.
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Posted By: Independant Voter @ 10/23/2008 6:30:08 PM
Wow - you should write for Fox Noise! Too bad the facts get in the way of a good lie. First - Iraq war starts in 2003 - that multi-billion dollar fiasco is what has helped lead the economic meltdown - as well as the DEREGULATION of banks, mortgage firms, etc... that is the Republican BRAND!
So - nice try - but total fiction on your part - you overlook the FACTS!!!!
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Posted By: rube @ 10/23/2008 10:35:41 PM
With advocating the largest government in U.S history, an arbitray War killing hundreds of thousands,
largest federal debt in history, millions of Americans getting thrown out of their homes, the worst economic crisis in history (lets hope not but this may come true) its difficult for me to know what American conservatism really is?
Indeed if this is conservatism- 8 years of Bush, 6 out of 8 years in a GOP congress and house-
Do we really need mor of it? No way. No Mccain!
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Posted By: radamus @ 10/23/2008 7:49:24 PM
I was born in 1948. I first became politically aware in the early to mid 60???s because of the Kennedy assassination and the Civil Rights movement. At that time women and racial minorities could not realistically aspire to public office, or most professions, in most parts of the country. Racial minorities could not even vote in many places. In the south they could not use bathrooms marked as for whites only, and could be arrested for indecent public exposure if they relieved themselves ???in the bushes??? and were seen by a white person. Contraceptive devices were not legal in most parts of the country; much less abortion. The only type of sex that was permitted was the missionary position between man and wife. Any other type of sex could be, and frequently was, prosecuted. You could not see a naked human in a mainstream film. It was ok for schools systems, cities, and states to ban certain works of classic literature from their libraries, or to even prevent them from being sold at all. Schools frequently required students to recite the Lords Prayer in assemblies, and punished students, regardless of religious affiliation, who refused to participate. It was perfectly ok to draft 18 year old boys (no girls) and send them away to die in a foreign war against their will, but not give those same boys the right to vote. Everything I???ve described above was perfectly fine with the right wing/conservative/republicans, and they fought against change. Liberal/left wing/Democrats saw that those things were wrong, fought for change, and won! So how is that the country can be considered center-right?
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/22/2008 8:50:41 AM
What Bin Ladin, Putin, Ahmadinejad, and others know from history, and Biden admits will be quickly tested if Obama wins:
Cuba, Vietnam. Laos, Cambodia, Iran, Nicaragua, Somalia, Iraq. Let our friends, allies and the innocents die, by the millions if necessary. Just so long as they are not Americans. We are the Democratic Party, and for 50 years, from the Bay of Pigs to the Basra Highway and beyond, we have never met a fight we could not pressure our government to run away from, or friends and allies we could not abandon. It's the story of our generation. Only the French are more defeatist than we, but together America, we can change that and become number one. And its change we can believe in. Come on America, and vote Democrat. Together, we can re-live that pride we haven't felt since the 1970's. If we just blindly pull together, we really can make this like it is Jimmy Carter's lost second term. Yes we can!-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 11:18:43 AM
Nowfor the truth.... if only the tripe you just wrote had any truth in it. Cuba.. (went communist under Eisenhower)... VietNam... Lost under Nixon/Ford, Nicaragua.. (can you say Bush I).. Laos, Cambodia (see Nixon again)... Iraq... (where the HELL is BinLadin?) Oh.. but you DID forget Beirut... REAGAN got the HELL out of there... Nicaragua again... (say it with me.. IRAN CONTRA)... AND NOW BUSH II... Bin-ladin bombed us because we had boots on the ground in Saudi Arabia... AFTER the bombing... Bush closed our Saudi military base.. (think we coulda used that base in this conflict)? Sorry dude... you are just a right wing propagandist. WE "ALL" love and will fight for America... not just republicans... get your facts STRAIGHT and stop lying to the people.
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Posted By: Jose52 @ 10/22/2008 12:30:33 PM
stilltohellwerise, You paint your views thru rosy colored glasses about our history. As an army ranger and a historian, I served during those times and blame the libs for backing down to all those challenges. JFK backed down to a tie, Nixon when libs congress failed our allies, and on... and on. I am glad you volunteered to fight and serve. We will be tested according to Biden and the "one" might make wrong decisions. As a anti-war hero, bambi will avoid all fights and any lowly dictator can brow beat him. I expect you to sign up and defend Obama's foreign policy mistakes and embarrasments. Good soldiers will leave the military and you need to step in ASAP. Job opportunties at foreign shores! Grab a weapon and stand post for your country that you claim you love. Show me!
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 1:10:13 PM
Thank you for serving our nation. As did i, as did my father and grandfather. Please do NOT tell me what you THINK you know about me. As i stated at the end of my posting, we ALL love and will fight for America. I know you 'think' you do, but CONservatives do NOT have a lock on strength and patriotism. but more to the point, you call my post my view through rose colored glasses. I call my post factual. But the greates thing about you, JOSE... is that you support a party that will never have anyone named Jose as its leader.
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Posted By: Jose52 @ 10/22/2008 1:28:34 PM
As a soldier, I am not affected by class warfare or class envy, as you and the DEMS play these evil games on my latino brothers sometime succumb to. Focus on facts and Obama's lack of qualifications. Dems will lie and sometimes say their doubts about Obama; like Joe Biden bought up.
BTW ... wait 10 years and we will see if a Hispanic has the character or experience to be elected. Which Obama has none!-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 1:35:24 PM
1) you STILL have not disputed any of the factual history I laid out for you. 2) your right wing buzz-word mantra does not scare me, and other continue to wake up to it. 3) to assume you know more than Colin Powell is the height of arrogance. done.
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 1:37:40 PM
one more thing... i would LOVE to see one of your hispanic brother or sisters be in the position that Obama is in today... MY POINT is... qualified or not.... the republican party aint havin it. period
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Posted By: Jose52 @ 10/22/2008 3:17:04 PM
Let go of the bush hate and class envy that you dems play for votes and power. bambi will do or say anything to win; like the lie denying medicare to seniors. All lies! Your views are weak and colored with the losers mantra. Focus on your weak sister's blame America first attitude and the Marxist bambi will start us on the road to the socialist ruin, where spreading the money around ( buying votes) to Nobama's chosen few and chicago thug politicians. A land where some are more equal than others, as long as you bow to bambi and ...accept bogus credit card funds illegally. Vote for a hero , not a zero!
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 7:30:23 PM
just re-read that.... you never said one factual thing. and you NEVER addressed a single FACT that I said. That is the difference between us. emotions are fine. FACTS prevail.
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 4:40:24 PM
Bush hate??? class warfare, chicago thugs, socialist, blah-blah dems weak, bla-blah... WTF are you TALKING about... See what happens is... I nail you to the cross factually , and you start in on demagogery. and with all of that... you STILL could not dispute what i said as fact. and "i'm" the kool aid drinker... sure. you, sir, are being tricked once again into voting against your own best interests. i could sit here and debunk ALL of the crap you believe. I COULD DEBUNK EVERY PIECE. but all you would do is call me a liar (insteading of looking for a source "outside of fox and limbaugh) and actually learn something. I think its just easier to call you a name in return (stupid) and dismiss you.
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Posted By: Jose52 @ 10/22/2008 5:51:27 PM
I sense a lot of hate. You are losing control. Now you have decided to turn it personal. Nasty would be a better word, however Obama is not the savior you should follow. You never tried to dismiss any of my points about Biden's doubts, barry's lies, or the main point of this article that America is a center right country. Barry is a democrat who believes his own illusions. That is crazy!
You started as a vet, but turned nasty when you decided you could not fight with facts and chose insults .
As a solidier, I served to protect your free speech and will served when called. You chose to insult yourself. All of america saw no facts , just hate. Just like the Dems.
Sir, you need ...Christ's peace. May you find whatever you are lacking. Maybe a sense of pride in your country. May your hate be smothered by our lord's blood on his cross. May God bless you.-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:23:33 PM
i dont deal in hate... hate consumes... (i.e. look in the mirror).... as to the rest of it... as i stated before... enjoy your bliss. at this point , we are wasting each other's time. Because if i tell you that the sky is blue and you don't believe me, then what... so again... enjoy your bliss. no hate... just fact...
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:38:09 PM
p.s. pull the military card all you like.. i served (national guard), my father served, USAF, my granfather served U.S. Army. i protected my OWN freedom of speech, and yours, too.
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:05:32 PM
As a Christian, I thank you for your prayer.
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 8:59:20 PM
BTW the only thing you can debunk is your own sleeping arrangements.
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:35:57 PM
HEY... really... whatever you gotta tell yourself to get to sleep at night..... whatever.
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 8:57:53 PM
Nothing you or your messiah could say that would convince me to vote for him or any democrat.
My self interest is to make my own way absent any intrusion or interference from the Gub'mint.
Freedom is what made this country what it is and not any Gub'mint program.
It's not up to you or and bureaucrap to tell me what I can earn or where.-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:21:34 PM
like i said... i can tell you that water is wet, ice is cold, and fire is hot, and you wil reject it because fox told you to. again... you have proven my point
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 4:46:25 PM
you may as well have written "limbaugh talking point", and another thing, "Hannity talking point" and then... "O'reilly talking point" and liberal, and marxist-socialist-lenninist, welfare, black, jessejackson, rev-wright, tax and spend, hates america, "glen beck" talking point.. and the reliable source drudge report tole me.... " dude... you got it.... not wasting my time talking to someone stupid enough to vote for a facist government TWICE, and then argue why we should all vote for a facist government a third time. whatever... go be stupid in your corner... i will leave you to your ignorance... enjoy your bliss...
p.s. water is wet, ice is cold, fire is hot, and republicans could give a rat's ass about you.-
Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 8:54:58 PM
Can you give me three hallmarks of fascism and how GW is doing the same thing?
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:20:15 PM
dude... I "owned" you on that two days ago... scroll down... what i noticed was that you have not accepted MY CHALLENGE TO YOU TO DO THE SAME REGARDING "SOCIALISM"...
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:33:59 PM
AS YOU CONVENIENTLY MISSED THE 'FIRST' TIME I OWNED YOU ON YOUR PATHETIC CHALLENGE, HERE IT IS AGAIN...Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/21/2008 10:53:12 AM
Comment: You are making this too easy... so... after I break this down to you, I then challenge YOU to do the same regarding socialism and Obama.
Facism;
1) A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, (SEE CHENEY "Imprial Presidency" stringent socioeconomic controls, (SEE Tax Cuts for Business and the top 1%)
suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, (SEE U.S. Patriot Act, sneak n peak warrantless surveilance, suspension of habeus corpus, and a charge of "Unpatriotic" if you disagree with us)
and (3) typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Um... See Fox (propaganda)NEWS, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Hewitt, Larson, Ingram.
EASY... DONE.... YOUR TURN
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/21/2008 5:29:14 PM
Comment: rockyrhodes??? still waiting...........
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/22/2008 5:34:24 PM
Comment: yeah..... i didn't 'think' so....
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Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 10/22/2008 12:55:42 PM
As a Vietnam vet, I find your statements perplexing to say the least. And to throw the liberal term out there as if it was a bit of poison is ridiculous. People tend to have both liberal and conservative beliefs depending upon the issue. Liberal and conservative terms are not black and white, they are gray.
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Posted By: Jose52 @ 10/22/2008 1:16:39 PM
Thank you for your service. Your gray issues is moderately wrong. As a moderate, you must change your views constantly. But you did not answer the doubts that biden brought up about obama being tested by any tin horn dictator. Fight fair with facts about obama. Knowing his lying background and polictical judgements, would you stay in a foxhole with this weak sister. Would a platoon, stay with this guy or frag him? Can he go face to face with Iran A hole and not blink.
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 8:53:22 PM
Can you explain how Eisenhower encouraged Fidel to "go Communist"?
Ted Kennedy and others of the dem ilk defunded the war and caused 5 million people to be slaughtered by the Communists in the late 70's and Jimmy Carted did nothing about it, but he did cause the mulahs in Iran to take hostages in Teheran-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 1:46:21 PM
really, dude.. pick up a history book, watch the history channel, or SOMEthing.. 1) reading is fundamental; show me in the above post where I suggested Eisenhower "ecnouraged" Castro to go communist. "show me".. 2) had the dem congress not taken the reigns from ford, that 10 year, 57,000 American life causing, nothing to show for it war would have been waged into the 80's. 3) STUDENTS took hostages in Iran.
so, what I am gathering is that you and facts generally, don't mix.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 7:03:26 PM
Obama in this video, addressing his work with ACORN litigation relating to the community reinvestment act and the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, as they relate to the current real estate and financial crisis, states that, and I quote:
"Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."
He further states:
???"The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."
Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
Obama in this second video is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other "Community Activist" organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President, Obama says, quote:
???Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda. We???re going to be having meetings all across the country with community organizations so that you have input into the agenda for the next presidency of the United States of America.
See and hear it for yourself. Obama promised that Acorn and other groups like it will setting his agenda if elected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU
See also: http://www.newsweek.com/id/164972
Stating that Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act wasn't what caused the meltdown, and noting that "economists on both sides of the political spectrum have suggested that the act has probably made the crisis less severe than it might otherwise have been."
See also:
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=808692&boardsparam=Page%3d2
Below is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
See also
http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732 from this web site. (oops!) stating that Freddie Mac was spending tax payer money to target Republicans in 2005 who were trying to regulate Fannie and Freddies fraud. Democrats were not targeted, as the were all in the tank with Fannie and Freddie to kill the regulations. Hear that, the article admits that Republicans were trying to regulate Freddie and Fannie, and Democrats were trying to stop it from happening as a means to facilitate the Community Reinvestment Act.
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Posted By: neos @ 10/23/2008 11:00:04 AM
In 2005, an average Chief Executive Officer (CEO) was paid 821 times as much as a minimum wage earner, who earns just $5.15 per hour. An average CEO earns more before lunchtime on the very first day of work in the year than a minimum wage worker earns all year. In 1965 the ratio was 51 times. In Japan the ratio is 11 to one.
While running Lehmann Brothers into the ground, its CEO collected nearly 500 million dolllars from 2000-2008.
Meanwhile Joe Six-Pack is being put out his home at the rate of 2700 per day.
While no one will dispute that CEO's deserve higher compensation, this EXCESSIVE greed is what is ruining America.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_20060627-
Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/23/2008 6:48:03 PM
Salary aside, why are you ignoring the fact that people signed mortgages with no money down an dup to 65% debt to salary ratio?
Also 50% or so were house flippers who got into trouble when they could not pay off their ARM's.
Not to mention that mortgages were given to ILLEGALS!
People who had no business assuming mortgages were being given them on the false notion that people are entitled to a home.
Why are you not demanding that Franklin Raines, Jaime Gorelick, Jim Johnson, Daniel Mudd and others aren't being frog-marched into Leavenworth???-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 7:00:00 PM
Just a note.... MORTGAGES DO "NOT" APPROVE THEMSELVES...... I can apply for a billion dollar mortgage all i like... if the bank says i don't QUALIFY, then i don't get it.... these people did not loan that money to themselves..... it was profitable for the banks to do it knowing their LOSSES would be socialized.. (oh no.... the dreaded "s" word)..... The banks had all the power... plain and simple.
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Posted By: dwilliamsamh @ 10/23/2008 4:05:24 PM
This is ridiculous -- in the 2006 mid terms America, handed the Republican party a 36-0 but kicking because we are "center-right???" According to the Republican Party's own estimates they will likely lose 30+ seats this time as well. That is a potential lose of 60+ seats in congress resulting in a hundred seat deficit in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. The country gave the Republicans control of the Government and found their conservative, free market philosophy so wanting that they aren't just losing the majority, they are being NEUTERED.
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 5:35:12 PM
I believe at this point, the author of this article is trying to convince himself......
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Posted By: krohn2 @ 10/20/2008 8:38:31 PM
Obama, the excuses are wearing thin. what excuse do you have for this one?:
http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/obama-praised-searing-and-timely-book-by-ayers/-
Posted By: Independant Voter @ 10/20/2008 8:51:48 PM
Do you Republicans have anything else to offer besides hatred? Just wondering - thanks!
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Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 10/21/2008 2:30:49 AM
Heh. Jon Stewart tells Palin to ''F..K You!'' before a audience of college kids over the weekend. Madonna compares McCain to the Nazis. Bernhard goes on a screeching anti-Palin obscenity-laden tirade,all captured in audio/video and then has the guts to tell NEWSWEAK that she was ''taken out of context''. Begala on CNN last week refers to Bush as a ''functioning moron''. Two college kids in Portland Oregon trying out their arson skills lob Molotov cocktails at a home with ''McCain''signs in the front yard. Another,who takes The Messiah literally,has been charged with assault and battery in NYC by the Manhattan DAs office for breaking a McCain sign over the head of a middle aged woman who was holding the sign standing on the corner of Lexington and 51st St. sending her to the hospital with head injuries. Four more who wait for the Second Coming,did not bother to read in the Book of Matthew that when Jesus kicked the moneychangers out of the Temple,it did not include slashing the tires on every single GOP voting transport van for the elderly up north of Detroit. Among those arrested was the 19 year old son of the districts Democrat congressional representative.Ditto for the punk son of a Democrat congressman in Tennessee who thinks that ''Privacy''is a perfume and decided to hack Palins personal e-mail account,and will be going up the river any day now. Down in Florida,impeached judge and Democrat congressman Alcee Hastings puts the fear of God into the assembled senior Jewish American audience by intoning that those who own guns ''and hunt moose don't care too much for blacks and Jews either''. His sidekick Jesse Jackson,who appears to be trying mightily to offset Hastings gains,tells an audience that the Jews ''are running this country''.
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 5:23:28 PM
if someone tells you that YOU are un-American.... what would YOU tell them.....
that's what I thought.... jon stewart was right.
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Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 10/21/2008 11:21:05 AM
'Joe the Plumber' nonsense resonating as more important than Collin Powell's endorsement - that has to say a lot about voter sentiment. Maybe people are frustrated and fed up and just looking for a little entertainment. Hopefully it isn't because there is so much racial prejudice, which people don't want to admit to, and they then grab onto the garbage to hide behind. That would be like 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' and would indicate many are simply illiterate.
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Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 10/21/2008 12:47:49 PM
Don't PLACE THE BLAME on Joe the plumber.....that's just IGNORANT.....IT'S ABOUT OBAMA'S STUPID, BUT FOR ONE HONEST REPLY........spreading our money around.....better known as Socialism....He isn't the first to embrace this thought, there have been tons of nations who have been victimized by this thinking and it's not what AMERICAN stand for....WE ARE A DEMOCRACY AND WILL REMAIN THAT WAY....Just say NO to O.......................................................McCain/Palin '08
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 5:20:41 PM
Guaranteed, you have not SEEN the actual exchange. If you say you have, and then posted that tripe, you are lying.
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Posted By: not-fooled-by-slick-talking-charlatans @ 10/21/2008 2:32:30 PM
Yelling (using all caps) in your comments only amplifies the lack of credibility in your ideology. Only raving lunatics are intested in what a raving lunatic would be screaming about.
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Posted By: CarrieAnn @ 10/21/2008 2:19:00 PM
People aren't buying "Joe" the "Plumber" -- see all the latest polls on this. He's not relevant to this discussion anymore than Flipper is. And as for the "socialism" garbage, forget it, it won't work. Not this time.
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Posted By: ianrey @ 10/23/2008 4:29:05 PM
Ludicrous. The country has clearly shifted to the left, whether the corporate media acknowledges it or not. Polling reveals a majority are in favor of increasing the minimum wage, increasing alternative energy, moving the tax base off the middle class and on to the corporations, expanding gay rights, keeping some form of abortion legal, and universal health care. FDR was needed to clean up after Hoover, and another New Deal is what we need to clean up after Bush.
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Posted By: ianrey @ 10/23/2008 4:28:22 PM
Ludicrous. The country has clearly shifted to the left, whether the corporate media acknowledges it or not. Polling reveals a majority are in favor of increasing the minimum wage, increasing alternative energy, moving the tax base off the middle class and on to the corporations, expanding gay rights, keeping some form of abortion legal, and universal health care. FDR was needed to clean up after Hoover, and another New Deal is what we need to clean up after Bush.
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Posted By: dwilliamsamh @ 10/23/2008 4:06:20 PM
This is ridiculous -- in the 2006 mid terms America, handed the Republican party a 36-0 but kicking because we are "center-right???" According to the Republican Party's own estimates they will likely lose 30+ seats this time as well. That is a potential lose of 60+ seats in congress resulting in a hundred seat deficit in the House and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. The country gave the Republicans control of the Government and found their conservative, free market philosophy so wanting that they aren't just losing the majority, they are being NEUTERED.
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Posted By: neos @ 10/23/2008 3:35:14 PM
"What you won't hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon -- that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize." ??? Barack Obama, June 3, 2008
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Posted By: Nins @ 10/22/2008 9:47:40 PM
It turns out that RNC has spent $150,000 on clothes for Sarah Palin. They also spent $100 for a romper and hat for little Trig, which he wore on stage at the GOP convention.
A hundred dollar onesie? And these people are saying that Obama would be a profligate spender.
Did you know that the outfit Cindy McCain wore when she appeared at the convention cost $330,000?
The RNC says that later Sarah's clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNC's version of "trickle down spending.") But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?
Fifteen years ago, McCain wrote an amendment to tighten the law on using campaign funds for personal items like clothing and stylists. In May of 1993, McCain said this on the Senate floor "The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly."
I guess he forgot what his prior position was. Again.
Just like he forgot that he used to be pro-Choice and pro-gay marriage and pro-immigration reform. He also forgot that he used to be afiliated with ACORN, and with G. Gordon Liddy. If he is lying to cover up what his prior positions have been, shame on him. If he really can't remember, maybe the detractors who claim his mind is aging are correct.
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 10:41:22 PM
What does it matter what Sarah is wearin'? Did you ever pay attention to Edwards' 400 haircut, Nancy's 5000 necklace or Algore's 20000 sq ft pallazo?
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:58:00 PM
Dude... you really don't want to play this game... Cindy McCain... ONE Convention ensemble... THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS..... you know... just like Joe-the-plumber, right?
(trump card, game over)
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Posted By: sharenews @ 10/23/2008 1:58:51 AM
Nins,
It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign, s spokesman (Tracey Schmitt) from John McCain's campaign. I don???t understand the dedication of 6 pages in a Newsweek article about this subject, especially given it has been stated and planned from the get go to have all the clothes to go to charity or auctioned off.
YOU SAID: The RNC says that later Sarahs clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNCs version of trickle down spending.) But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?
MY RESPONSE: Nins, I am surprised at you making this cynical (mean-spirited) comment in your blog below. I say this cuz you are a professional like myself and that you must know there are a great many organizations that Governor Palin could contribute this wardrobe to other than to ???homeless people???. Namely many organizations that help women by donating professional suits, blouses, shoes, etc. to aid them in getting into the workforce and/or furthering venture into a respectable career. Come on. . .really now, homeless people?
SAMPLING OF CHARITIES:
WARDROBE FOR OPPORTUNITY:
Wardrobe for Opportunity is a non-profit organization that helps low-income women successfully transition into the workforce.
http://www.wardrobe.org/
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DRESS FOR SUCCESS
Dress for Success is a non-profit organization that helps woman gain employment and journey towards self-sufficiency. This national organization distributes women's business suits and other professional clothing to women around the country. Women receive a business suit, shoes and accessories. Those who are hired receive work outfits. You can bring unwanted interview-appropriate suits, separates, shoes, accessories, unused undergarments and unopened cosmetics to a local Dress for Success affiliate. Some affiliates also accept coats.
http://www.dressforsuccess.org/supportdfs_donate_clothing.aspx
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SUITED FOR SUCCESS:
Suited for Success, Inc. (SFS) is a nonprofit organization providing FREE interview attire for low-income men and women transitioning from social service agencies, domestic violence shelters and a number of job readiness programs.
http://suitedforsuccessvirginia.org/
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:00:30 PM
Rockribbedconservative... i gotta tell you.. I am yours' and Fox News' and Rush Limbaugh's worst nightmare. I am a PROUD Progressive Democrat, who has served, and comes from a family of service WHO HAS A 'FIRM' COMMAND OF FACTUAL HISTORY and "not" spin. I can see that we can argue into the next century, and I will not convince you that your views are wrong and you will neither convince me that my views are wrong. So be it. I have provided for you and Jose in our debates SEVERAL factual occurances only to have the subject changed by some iota of spinnable info, or be ignored, or dismissed altogether. These are classic "i don't wanna' play anymore" Republican tactics when they get cornered by un-spinnable facts. I respect your service to our country. Please respect mine and my family's, as well. Because as my very first post said, WE "ALL" LOVE AMERICA ! Now I know that goes against the right wing dogma-mantra that states those of us on the left hate America, but I, and millions on the left like me prove 'that' dogma wrong.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 2:06:44 PM
Politics aside, thank you for your service!
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:44:44 PM
Thank you, fellow American.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 2:06:05 PM
Here is the history. Cuba, Vietnam. Laos, Cambodia, Iran, Nicaragua, Somalia, Iraq. Let our friends, allies and the innocents die, by the millions if necessary. Just so long as they are not Americans. We are the Democratic Party, and for 50 years, from the Bay of Pigs to the Basra Highway and beyond, we have never met a fight we could not pressure our government to run away from, or friends and allies we could not abandon. It's the story of our generation. Only the French are more defeatist than we, but together America, we can change that and become number one. And its change we can believe in. Come on America, and vote Democrat. Together, we can re-live that pride we haven't felt since the 1970's. If we just blindly pull together, we really can make this like it is Jimmy Carter's lost second term. Yes we can!
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Posted By: pugs @ 10/22/2008 7:46:50 PM
OK Newsweek this one not going waway and you guys said Obamas birth certificate was real. OK if you stil have it are you sure it wasn't just a registraion certificate because the two are different.
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Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 10/22/2008 8:02:56 PM
It has been shown to the news media (factcheck.org) that it is real.
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 8:34:49 PM
It does not have a notarized stamp and it is not signed and dated. Under Hawaii law, only Barry could have gotten a duplicate and not Marcos Moussaka of the Daily Kossack.
BTW I thought Barry had his original. What happened to it?
It would be very easy for Barry to go to Hawaii and procure his own duplicate. Why hasn't he???
Btw Factcheck is owned by Annenberg, which happens to be the outfit that gave Barry and Buddy Bill Ayres Hundres of MILLIONS of dollares.
As to the stamp and signature, I would know, since I had to get a duplicate of my own Birth Certificate.-
Posted By: Nins @ 10/22/2008 9:49:21 PM
Um, in case you didn't know, Annenberg is an ultra-conservative Republican organization.
YOU would be proud to be a member, Rockribs.-
Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/22/2008 10:43:07 PM
Yeah so Ultra that they gave 100's of millions to barry and billy?
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:37:05 PM
Realy dude... history... Annenberg is a super conservative who was an ambassador appointee of Reagan. so he and some other conservatives get together and find a way to do some good on education, and that's how we get the foundation. LOTS of conservatives a part of it. it was all about doing something good in education... now its all about some idiot who was stupid in his youth but is not a freaking college professor... facts, baby, facts...
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/23/2008 9:52:22 AM
Sorry, but I don't associate with liberal, anything goes, republicans, but I see that you don't mind.
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Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 10/22/2008 8:48:29 PM
bfd
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Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 10/23/2008 9:55:12 AM
Lineage of muslims goes through the father's side, so he is a muslim according to koranic law.
Islam says the first allegiance is to allah.
Barry in his own book said that if the winds change, he will stand with the muslims.
Enough for you?
I want an American to be President; he hasn't proven anything.
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Posted By: muslimsforpresidents @ 10/22/2008 8:48:09 PM
whatever you want to believe, you will believe. It is no sweat.
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Posted By: Nins @ 10/22/2008 11:14:52 PM
It turns out that RNC has spent $150,000 on clothes for Sarah Palin. They also spent $100 for a romper and hat for little Trig, which he wore on stage at the GOP convention.
A hundred dollar onesie? (And these people are saying that Obama would be a profligate spender.)
Did you know that the outfit Cindy McCain wore when she appeared at the convention cost $330,000?
The RNC says that later Sarah's clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNC's version of "trickle down spending.") But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?
Fifteen years ago, McCain wrote an amendment to tighten the law on using campaign funds for personal items like clothing and stylists. In May of 1993, McCain said this on the Senate floor "The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly."
I guess he forgot what his prior position was. Again.
Just like he forgot that he used to be pro-Choice and pro-gay marriage and pro-immigration reform. He also forgot that he used to be afiliated with ACORN, and with G. Gordon Liddy. If he is lying to cover up what his prior positions have been, shame on him. If he really can't remember, maybe the detractors who claim his mind is aging are correct.
One last thought: is the GOP paying for Bristol Palin's maternity wear?-
Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 2:02:35 PM
How much did Obama's Greek Colums cost?
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:33:30 PM
That was actually funny....... but my answer is... probably still less than Palin's VP wardrobe... p.s. didn't the hockey mom already have a Governor's wardrobe??? did they really have to do a Tiffany's make over? I mean.. she looked good to me (seriously) on the video she taped to the Alaskan Independence Party convention.
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Posted By: sharenews @ 10/23/2008 1:46:57 AM
Nins,
It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign, s spokesman (Tracey Schmitt) from John McCain's campaign. I don???t understand the dedication of 6 pages in a Newsweek article about this subject, especially given it has been stated and planned from the get go to have all the clothes to go to charity or auctioned off.
YOU SAID: The RNC says that later Sarahs clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNCs version of trickle down spending.) But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?
MY RESPONSE: Nins, I am surprised at you making this cynical (mean-spirited) comment in your blog below. I say this cuz you are a professional like myself and that you must know there are a great many organizations that Governor Palin could contribute this wardrobe to other than to ???homeless people???. Namely many organizations that help women by donating professional suits, blouses, shoes, etc. to aid them in getting into the workforce and/or furthering venture into a respectable career. Come on. . .really now, homeless people?
SAMPLING OF CHARITIES:
WARDROBE FOR OPPORTUNITY:
Wardrobe for Opportunity is a non-profit organization that helps low-income women successfully transition into the workforce.
http://www.wardrobe.org/
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
DRESS FOR SUCCESS
Dress for Success is a non-profit organization that helps woman gain employment and journey towards self-sufficiency. This national organization distributes women's business suits and other professional clothing to women around the country. Women receive a business suit, shoes and accessories. Those who are hired receive work outfits. You can bring unwanted interview-appropriate suits, separates, shoes, accessories, unused undergarments and unopened cosmetics to a local Dress for Success affiliate. Some affiliates also accept coats.
http://www.dressforsuccess.org/supportdfs_donate_clothing.aspx
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
SUITED FOR SUCCESS:
Suited for Success, Inc. (SFS) is a nonprofit organization providing FREE interview attire for low-income men and women transitioning from social service agencies, domestic violence shelters and a number of job readiness programs.
http://suitedforsuccessvirginia.org/-
Posted By: neos @ 10/23/2008 11:03:13 AM
Doesn't all that spinning get you dizzy?
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 8:57:13 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27324419/
AP poll: Candidates running nearly even 10/22/08
Neck-and-neck results are a departure from many recent national polls
WASHINGTON - The presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that shows McCain and Barack Obama essentially running even among likely voters in the election homestretch.
The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as Republican-leaning voters drifted home to their party.-
Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:26:19 PM
The AP was later in the same day shown to be faulty, as the 43% of the people polled were evangelicals. (that is like saying that out of 100% of people being polled, half of them were african-americans who would be pre-disposed to voting Obama)
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Posted By: neos @ 10/23/2008 11:01:37 AM
late in the season for cherry-picking
word of the day outlier
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Posted By: Beaujack @ 10/21/2008 3:45:14 PM
Beaujack-What do you call a black person who is voting for Obama because of his skin color? The same damn thing you called a white person for not voting for Obama because of his skin color.Obama is a rookie, he has no record on anything except being a liberal senator for the short time he has been an elected offical.I feel he wants to change America in the wrong direction.The problem is that there is a whole lot of lazy people out there that will vote for the person who will give them the most and keep that free money comming.They do not give a damn about what happens to America.America has turned her back on God and surely we will pay dearly.Just Maybe Obama will be the punishment???????????????
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Posted By: stillwerise @ 10/23/2008 2:12:36 PM
if you wanted to know about Obama outside of fox, limbaugh, and whatever characature they have created for you to hate, you could. Actually, Obama has his name on over a thousand pieces of legislation. (over 500 in the u.s. senate alone. but fox will never admit that. he has a proven track record of reaching across the aisle. (see Luger, see Hagel, and reference any number of republicans from his state senate days). but that doesn't fit fox's image of him (for YOU). At this juncture, if you don't know...it's because you don't WANT to know... or even REFUSE to know.
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Posted By: Marcus CA @ 10/21/2008 10:24:18 PM
Even if you remove skin color from the decision, black people would have been more likely to vote for Obama simply because he is a Democrat. In the last two presidential elections, roughly 90% of blacks voted for the Democratic candidate.
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Posted By: tantric @ 10/21/2008 7:53:19 PM
Beaujack,it's not about black or white.And if you think it's about handouts-what about the Republican and Right wing ROBBERY of the middle Income by having less and less Regulation on business SOLELY and DIRECTLY actually INTENDED to ALLOW the Ultra Rich to Rob all of us.If the fraud part was done away(and NEITHER Party does anything about that),I would rather have my tax dollars TEMPORARILY support a
jobless joe until he gets on his feet then what the Republican Agenda is and has ALWAYS been.
Do NOT be under any fantasy that the Republicans are going to be better for you-unless you are a Multi(10 or 20 Million),Multi millionaire.Even Small Business Owners and all fairly Rich families will be better off with Democrats than the rampart scamming we have with this administration....and Mr 90% McCain is NOT,I repeat NOT going to be different.The 'maverick' ,in my opinion,had LONG ago sold out to the Special Interests of the Ultra Rich. -
Posted By: Guilvert @ 10/21/2008 4:05:38 PM
You make a good point. But here is the problem. I have to chose between a guy that finished 894 out of 899 in his college class who was a bad pilot got shoot twice, married and divorce he's wife because she had health issues??? Re married a drug addict, and hang around with a Communist (he has a close relation ship with a Vietnamese that tortured him during the war and he friend still a communist) remember those guys that kill Americans. Also he's choice of VP is not the most brilliant start!! She attended 5 colleges in 6 years, (Colleges??????..you know the place were people learn how to put a sentence together???.YES "THAT ONE" Or I can vote for a guy that is not Mr. clean but graduate on top of he's class from a prestige university is eloquent and have a VP that provide the knowledge and background in defense, is also been supported by Colin Powel and he's financial advisor is the riches man alive?????? hummmmmm not sure but your arguments falls short for the majority of Americans (including some members of the GOP)
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Posted By: Bass Pro @ 10/23/2008 11:34:08 AM
8 years with a Republican President 6 years was with a Republican Senate majority. Add them together and they EQUAL ONE MILLION FORECLOSURES.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 2:09:59 PM
See: http://www.newsweek.com/id/164972
Stating that Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act wasn't what caused the meltdown, and noting that "economists on both sides of the political spectrum have suggested that the act has probably made the crisis less severe than it might otherwise have been." And also:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/who_caused_the_economic_crisis.html
Even Bill Clinton points to liberal Congressional Democrats??? protection of Fannie and Freddie from scrutiny as a primary cause of the current economic meltdown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
Obama in the last half of the this youtube link, says so as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
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