It’s Not Easy Bein’ Blue

Jon: After this election you will find that due to the large number of new voters voting for Obama that the United States is no longer a "center right" nation but rather is a "center center" nation.

Jon: After this election you will see that with the large turnout of young voters voting for Obama that the United States is not a "center right" nation but rather is a "center center" nation

After 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, and put them in prison camps like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 trillion of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

America is a "center-right" country? What a load of unempirical, pro-Establishment crap. Meacham might want to take a look at some actual data -- http://www.ourfuture.org/files/z_historic/reports/20070612_theprogressivemajority_report.pdf -- before drawing his conclusions.

This is so true about how the election is already bought and paid for:
http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/what-is-it-that-barack-obama-knows-that-the-rest-of-us-don%E2%80%99t/#comment-1929

Friends. Let us all put aside our differences for a moment and bow our heads. A moment of silence please. Thank you. The last surviving neuron of Mr. Biden's superego expired today after a long battle with apoptosis. It had been in retirement for many years. It had recently given an interview during which it reflected on its long struggle with Mr. Biden's id over its urges to plagiarize. "I did the best I could and in general was able to hold them in check" said the heroic cell.

I've lived in this country for 56 years. Grew up in a politically and socially active household. Continued in my own life, from Illinois to Kansas, Philladelphia to Niagra Falls, Juneau to Anchorage to Denver. 31 years as an RN taking care of Americans from ICU to Home Care. I have been extremely involved in the 2004 and 2008 elections. Spend a lot of time reading, getting news from the web. Using the mind my scientist father trained to observe and analyse carefully and which I have continuously refined. There are few major problems that surprised me at all. I 've seen them coming. This transformational time in particular, I realised as a teenager in the late 60's would happen in my lifetime. So tell me,

What country are you living in ?

Mr. Meacham fails to realize we are a center left country. If we are to believe his thesis, we would always be trending backward. Rather, we are a progressive nation. Only spasms of conservatism breaks our leftward trend and even in those periods, the liberal agenda is not repealed (such as social security and medicare).
Maybe you can label the country one way, but it just doesn't fit the facts.

Nims: Funny how fast Newsweek took that article : AP IMPACT: Mortgage firm arranged stealth campaign, http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732 , came off the general table of contents for this site once they figured out that, instead of being a bit on those evil lobbiest, it in fact admitted that the Republicans were trying to regulate Freddie and Fannie in 2005 and were targeted by Freddie, and the no Democrats were targeted because they were all in the tank with Freddie and Fannie not to regulate them as a means of promoting the Community Reinvestment Act. I don???t think that article stayed up 24 hrs before they took it off the main screen.

I don't think our nation is right or left - we're just not that easy to label anymore. Eight years ago I was an enthusiastic McCain supporter - now I am an enthusiastic Obama supporter. I don't vote by party lines - I vote for whom I think is best for our country. Barack Obama seems to have an incredibly gifted mind - and I think he is the most qualified President because of his life expieriences. McCain just seems old and angry now - probably because of what Bush put him through.

Look and listen for yourself. Hear Obama in his own words discusses his links to both ACORN and the mortgage meltdown, and praises bundling and securitizing mortgages by banks as a means to float loans to the poor. Never mind the link commentators point of view, just listen to what Obama says in his own words. A picture is worth a thousand words. Maybe more in the case of the last half of the second link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

See also:
http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=808692&boardsparam=Page%3d2

This is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
See also
http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732 from this web site. (oops!) stating that Freddie Mac was spending tax payer money to target Republicans in 2005 who were trying to regulate Fannie and Freddies fraud. Democrats were not targeted, as the were all on board to not regulate Fannie and Freddie. Hear that, Republicans were trying to regulate, and Democrats were trying to stop it/

The link below contains a purported list of the top 25 in Congress who got contributions from the folks at Fannie and Freddie. Obama is listed third, after Dodd and Kerry, even though Obama is just a junior Senator. Obama is followed next by Clinton. Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi are on the list as well.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080918

And the link below describes how some Democrats in Congress tried to use the original version of the bailout bill to divert money eventually recovered to groups like ACORN, a group Obama has a long association with. See:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj