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  • Posted By: benluclar @ 10/21/2008 5:55:20 PM

    This is an excerpt from a letter to the editor of a daily rural community in Pennsylvania today, and is compelling enough I am submitting it for undecided voters as food for thought.
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    Let???s start with a number. How about 50 million? Really not a very significant number when related to, let???s say, grains of sand or raindrops.
    However, this number becomes staggering, devastating, insane, appalling, unimaginable. In fact, there isn???t an adjective in the English language that???s strong enough if you cite the number of 50 million babies that have had their lives ended by abortion.
    Have you ever wondered why the statement ???a woman???s right to choose??? doesn???t get made into a full sentence? A woman???s right to choose, what? Perhaps it should read ???a woman???s right to choose to end the life of a growing, developing human being.???
    Now, on to the presidential race and candidate Barack Obama. He is a co-sponsor of the Freedom of Choice Act. In Obama???s address to Planned Parenthood on July 17, 2007, he said, ???The first thing I will do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.
    His signing of the act would permit the use of taxpayer funds for abortion, allow no state or federal law to interfere with abortion access and last, and certainly the most abhorrent of all abortion procedures, partial-birth abortion would be legal again.
    On election day, our votes will reveal what we, as Americans, have chosen. Will we chose by voting for John McCain to have our votes say that, above all other things, we value our unborn children, and that, surely, 50 million lives ended by abortion should not have been allowed to happen, and must stop, or by voting for Obama, will we choose to let our votes say that 50 million babies destroyed by abortion isn???t all that significant.

    • Posted By: sickofredbs @ 10/21/2008 6:17:35 PM

      You are a sicko if you would advocate bringing 50 million unwanted lives into an unstable world to fend for themselves. That is what you advocate, since you would probably argue that "socialism" is anti-American as well. You see, without some degree of "socialism," society - note the similarity in these words - would be uncivilized. Without some degree of "socialism" you are asking 50million unwanted babies to be born, without the intervention they would need to survive. It is easy to bash on the "welfare" mothers, but what should an underpaid or unemployed, pregnant woman do with the child she can't abort and can't support? Leave it under a tree and hope it survives on it's own? If you are so concerned about ending abortion, perhaps you should feed, clothe and educate those 50 million babies. Better still, spend your energy on better educating our youth and arming them with the knowledge and "tools" they need to avoid getting pregnant in the first place, rather than meaningless "promise" rings. How are we going to feed the children that are born if we don't fix the mess we are in? Incedently, your comment has nothing to do with the article, but I feel it did need an answer, so neither does my reply.

  • Posted By: Latino44million @ 10/21/2008 5:10:15 PM

    Obama has enough money, the media machine, and black vote to win.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/21/2008 5:22:33 PM

      And McC doesn't have enough of the dim-witted, easily scared, submissive, uneducated, intolerant folks to win. Bush had them in his pocket. But, looks like those folks are waking up....even his "once" top guy.

      Remeber Powell? LOL!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: mcdeere72 @ 10/21/2008 5:51:34 PM

        Thats the funny part when an Obama supporter gets on here all they do if they don't know the answer they just start degrading the canidate and his supporters instead of actually refuting the issue with facts.

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/21/2008 6:15:40 PM

          What facts were stated in the preceding post?

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/21/2008 5:47:43 PM

        Actually it isn't just McCain, it seems that quite a few republicans are having a hard time getting either elected or re-elected. It could be because they like their leader continue to make ignorant comments. I guess they cannot help themselves.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/21/2008 5:45:42 PM

        Yep! you betcha! LOL!

  • Posted By: cosmokramer @ 10/21/2008 5:43:43 PM

    The best intelligence says that Osama bin Laden is dead. He could be irrelevant even if he was alive because there are plenty of other terrorist threats-that's what makes them terrorists right. What's more dangerous? The remote threat of a band of outside attackers or the prevalent, recurring problem in the American psyche-extreme fear of bogeys and projection of that fear by making heros of politicians based on their rhetoric. It doesn't matter if Americans overwhelmingly feel safe if they are in fact not safe. It's all perception, so let's just go out and rack up some credit card bills to regain a sense of normalcy.

    • Posted By: uber voter @ 10/21/2008 6:12:05 PM

      I think people should be more wary of the internal economic "terrorists" that have destroyed our economy at this moment in time. .

  • Posted By: martyks @ 10/21/2008 6:10:38 PM

    We have woken up. But no, look over here... never mind the hypocracy... never mind the economy, never mind the trashing of the constitution, never mind the corruptioh, never mind the wars, never mind the deaths, never mind the infrastructure melting all around you... vote Republican again and again.. because we are the true americans... unbelievable.

  • Posted By: uber voter @ 10/21/2008 6:00:09 PM

    Obama is not Kerry and 2004 is not 2008! The economy is first and foremost, Frankly McCain woudl probably have a heart attack if anything happened and Sarah would be lost in space. I believe most people would now prefer Obama /Biden to handle any type of terrorist threat.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/21/2008 5:58:32 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/21/2008 5:58:13 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: A.N.A @ 10/21/2008 4:32:20 PM

    Now Al Oaida will come to help of McCain. So he told he was coming back, whatever the polls say? Is it for this that Obama is potiaited as a Muslim and terrorist? It is to prepare the voters mind to accept anything bin Laden threat. Americans to put their proper judgement, if that happens Almost everyone was apprehending of Laden. Before Nov.4 Laden is going to do something to ahoq hoq poqwedul he is who can dontrol the result of a election which he did in 2004. A.N.A,

    • Posted By: Latino44million @ 10/21/2008 5:20:11 PM

      Obama and the Democrats are praying that our economy gets worse in the last twoo weeks! It is the only reason that he is 5 points ahead despite all the millions he got from Wall Street Bankers to buy this election.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/21/2008 5:58:11 PM

        I am assuming that you know who Rick Davis is;

        On September 24, 2008, the New York Times reported that Rick Davis' firm, Davis Manafort, had been paid $15,000 per month by Freddie Mac, for "consulting", from the end of 2005, when Davis stopped being head of the Homeownership Alliance, until August 2008. Payments stopped when Freddie Mac was taken over by the federal government

        link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Davis_%28politics%29

        Again, it amazes me when one of McCain's supporters spews this type of BS without checking their own candidates campaign. So so very sad!

      • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/21/2008 5:43:53 PM

        The economy is not the only issue where he leads in the polls. BTW, check the individual states, and the electoral college numbers. That 5% nationally, equals a 200vote electoral lead. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        You're not paying much attention are you?

  • Posted By: Latino44million @ 10/21/2008 5:11:43 PM

    President Obama will invite Osama Bin Laden, and other leaders to chat over tea, and the world will be a better place.

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/21/2008 5:49:08 PM

      Oh please. You are so misinformed. Mr. Obama believes that terrorists suffer from a lack of empathy. He will offer Mr. Bin Laden 9 months of free psychotherapy.

  • Posted By: johnrocker @ 10/21/2008 5:47:20 PM

    Bin Laden's brother SALEM was one of George Bush best friends and business partners for many years. The only person that knows Bin laden is Bush himself. Bush could just pick up the phone and call Bin Laden's number anytime either to create fear so that average americans will panic and vote GOP.

    Check this links: or google "Bush and Bin Laden" and it is over the internet.
    http://www.oilempire.us/bush-binladen.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_bin_Laden
    tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html - 87k
    http://www.rense.com/general14/brother.htm
    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html

  • Posted By: LudwigVanBeet @ 10/21/2008 3:52:35 PM

    Comment:****** The KU KLUTZ KLAN, David Duke University, Rush Limbaugh, The Weekly Standard, American Enterprise Institute, Mitt "MITTENS" Romney, Gordan Liddy, Keating Five, Ollie "WILLARD "North , Mississippi, American Nazi Party , George Wallace, ,Trent Lott P. Buchanan,____PROUDLY ENDORSES JOHN MCCAIN

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 10/21/2008 5:46:23 PM



      SAMPLING OF OBAMAS radical ENDORSERS

      What triggers radicals, dictators, terrorist groups, et al, to endorse Barack Obama? He may denounce such endorsers, but the fact still remains that they totally support him. WHY?

      * HAMAS (terrorist org):
      http://www.cfr.org/publication/8968
      http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=64097

      * COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (CPUSA) - (Marxist-Leninist political party in the United States) http://www.aim.org/aim-column/communist-party-backs-obama/

      * THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS (anti-Semitic black supremacist party)
      http://bigheaddc.com/2008/03/19/new-black-panther-party-endorses-obama/

      * FIDEL CASTRO (former Cuban President / Dictator) - Endorsed Obama
      http://www.rpof.org/article.php?id=382

      * MUAMMAR GADDAFI (Libyan political leader)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvWqEwq2Yw

      * KIM JONG-IL (NORTH KOREA) http://freekorea.us/2008/06/22/obama-gets-another-unwanted-endorsement/

      * HUGO CHAVEZ (Venezuelan dictator) - Richardson gets another foreign endorsement for Obama: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/28/video-richardson-gets-another-foreign-endorsement-for-obama/

      * CHARLES BARRON - (former Black Panther) - New York City Councilman (http://www.nypost.com/seven/11082007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obamas_bad_news_buddies_862967.htm

      * DONNIE MCCLURKIN (ex-gay gospel singer who has claimed that gays are trying to kill our children) http://www.nypost.com/seven/11082007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obamas_bad_news_buddies_862967.htm


      THERE IS MORE I COULD ADD. . . Why are controversial, radical people, organizations, etc. drawn to endorse

    • Posted By: busby @ 10/21/2008 5:30:23 PM

      Might I remind you that Hamas endorsed Obama.

  • Posted By: benluclar @ 10/21/2008 5:44:57 PM

    My opinion is that the one thing that is the October ''surprise'' is the no-surprise ability of the liberal media to TRY to PERSUADE voters to not bother to vote because they have already crowned Obama the next President.
    I think voters should be mindful of this tactic and VOTE ON ELECTION DAY.
    Every vote DOES count, regardless of what we are being BRAINWASHED into believing.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 10/21/2008 5:38:45 PM



    Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act
    4-2-2008
    by Jill Stanek

    Article: http://www.citizenlink.org/CLtopstories/A000007034.cfm


    Even all of the pro-abortion orgs did not object to this humane bill which finally did pass in Illinois once Obama left office.


    Here is another (MUST READ) related article by Jill Stanek:

    http://www.illinoisrighttolife.org/newpage36.htm



    *****************************************************


    Born Alive Truth.org Gianna ad:

    If Obama had had his way, this woman in this video would not be here today:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anieuWFWe8s

  • Posted By: funkdome2 @ 10/21/2008 3:47:50 PM

    "While sophisticated analysts could explain that bin Laden released the tape just before the election because he hoped Bush would win (Bush was a better recruiting tool for Al Qaeda than a President Kerry would have been)"

    Says who? Al Qaeda is far less respected in the Muslim world than it was four years ago.

    • Posted By: ClementW @ 10/21/2008 5:05:08 PM

      Yes, Al-Qaeda is far less respected in the muslim world than 4 years ago. Jonathan Alter is also going to be far less respected in America November 5.

      • Posted By: busby @ 10/21/2008 5:31:37 PM

        Not many respect him now!

  • Posted By: arabeguiled @ 10/21/2008 3:24:08 PM

    don't count on any surprises from bin laden. he is routing for obama way more than kline, altar, couric or dowd or the whole mainstream media. he doesn't want to do anything to hamper obama's success. he wants obama to win jsut like you do.

  • Posted By: pamp205 @ 10/21/2008 4:50:05 PM

    The last two new presidents were tested by a crisis in his first year? (For Clinton, it was Somalia and first World Trade Center attack; for Bush, it was 9/11.) Now who would we want leading us in case of this scenario...
    McCain's erratic behavior and age factor in combination with the possibility of Sarah Palin in the Presidential seat in an international crisis scenario?

    Or

    The sharp younger mind who is displaying more judgment in combination with a Vice President who has years of experience in foreign policy?



    • Posted By: Latino44million @ 10/21/2008 5:17:46 PM

      Certainly! Obama will give a speech, and the crisis will end. No need to worry.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 10/21/2008 5:08:57 PM

    That and why should he fear any American Pres. in the 70-80s the Russians put in more than 250,000 troops.. so if we plan on a surge in Afganistan to control 50+ mobil Governments [Tribes] into one,, the tribes will not follow suit.. they rule the sand, and we don't have the man power to surge there in any form,... Face it WE taught,funded, and supplied, them to well under Charlie Wilson!!!!!! Plus 3000 years of invasions,, patients is definitly on there side, and they practice it well. If we pulled out of all Middle-Eastern politics it would keep them killing themselves, no threat to us!!! we interfer we pay like we did on 9/11!!! plain and simple.

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/21/2008 5:03:56 PM

    I don't think McCain's campaign is crafty enough to create an "Oct. Surprise" that would affect O's polls.....nor are they stupid enough to try. History shows O's numbers soar when fighting a smear. McC and the GOP, as dirty as they are, can't risk it.

    But, then again........

    Where's Michelle's "whitey" tape......LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/21/2008 4:57:50 PM

    Very important quote from this article............

    "While sophisticated analysts could explain that bin Laden released the tape just before the election because he hoped Bush would win (Bush was a better recruiting tool for Al Qaeda than a President Kerry would have been), none of that got through. "

    Those who looked at the last election w/ their mind's eye, and not partisan tribalism, found this obvious.

  • Posted By: swist @ 10/21/2008 4:12:03 PM

    Any question as to what candidate Alter supports?

    • Posted By: ClementW @ 10/21/2008 4:56:30 PM

      Has there been any doubt for the last year atleast?

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