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  • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 4:10:28 PM

    It appears the far right neoconservative movement which has brought this country to near economic ruin at home and seriously damaged our relations abroad is not finished yet. It is now busily trying to tear this nation's citizens apart. This negative force tries to divide us into pro- and anti- American regions. And now, returning appropriately to its McCarthyist roots, comes the latest pathetic twist. labeling those who hold a differing point of view as communists. United we stand!

    • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 4:12:22 PM

      If it walks like a duck

      • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 4:16:45 PM

        It has walked like a duck for eight long years..... Yeah its a McCarthyist duck.

        • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 4:32:27 PM

          I do get so tired of hearing Obama and you progressives repeatedly regurgitating "the failed economic policies of the last eight years."
          What part doesn???t you understand?
          Here is the federal revenue per year. Note the huge increase from 2003 to 2006 after the 2001 recession? That's the result of the 2003 tax cuts.
          In the trillions:

          1998 $1.7
          1999 $1.8
          2000 $2.0
          2001 $1.9
          2002 $1.8
          2003 $1.7
          2004 $1.9
          2005 $2.1
          2006 $2.4
          2007 $2.5
          Source: U.S. Treasury monthly and yearly statements.

          • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 4:36:10 PM

            The economy is in ruin. Ten trillion in debt. Thousands of foreclosures per day. Unemployment at record levels. What part don't YOU understand?

            • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 4:41:35 PM

              Besides the democrats and the fun they had with Freddie and Fannie which got us in this mess to begin with how about this little tidbit.

              In January 2006, a Democratic congressional majority was sworn in that was elected in part by promising fiscal responsibility. The Democrats specifically pledged to limit spending increases and employ pay-as-you-go (PAYGO) budgeting to keep the budget deficit in check.

              As their first year moves toward a close, it has become clear that the members of this majority have failed to live up to their promises. In just 10 months, Congress has passed legislation that would increase federal spending by a combined $454 billion over 10 years and raise taxes and fees by $98 billion over 10 years and has passed a budget resolution that would bring the tax increase to a projected $2.7 trillion.[1]

              Despite the Democrats' PAYGO pledge of no new deficit spending, legislation enacted thus far has increased spending much faster than taxes, resulting in an additional $356 billion in deficit spending. Only their budget blueprint, which assumes repeal of nearly all of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, would pay for all of their new spending.

              • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 4:54:09 PM

                A not so artful evasion. Shall we look at the last five republican presidents? Not one of them ever, EVER, EVER, balanced the budget. INCLUDING the years when they controlled congress. All of them grew the government. So much for fiscally responsible republicans. Period.
                So what did the repubs do with increased government size and spending? Did they responsibly pay as they went. No sir, they borrowed a boatload of money from our bestest buddies, the Chinese and Saudis, for example. And now just to service the debt we lose hundreds of billions a year, again to our good friends.
                When in charge you ARE responsible. Only dishonorable people shirk responsibility for their actions. But for the neoconservatives, the buck never stops anywhere. Blame others for your failings if you will, but the American public has passed verdict on your actions.

                • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 5:41:19 PM

                  The President only submits to the U.S. Congress. The President's budget submission outlines funding recommendations for the next fiscal year. Congressional decisions are governed by rules and legislation regarding the federal budget process. House and Senate Budget committees each develop budget resolutions, which provide spending limits for the House and Senate Appropriations Committees' subcommittees, which then approve individual appropriations bills to allocate funding to various federal programs. After Congress approves an appropriations bill, it is sent to the President, who may sign it into law, or may veto it.

                  They champion politically rewarding but economically damaging agricultural subsidies during a world food crisis. On energy, the congressional Democrats seem intent on battling Bush to a draw on who can accomplish the least.

                  OK. So Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and colleagues have seized their chance to out-pander the Republicans and are doing well in performing that uphill task.
                  The fallout is actually wider: The Democratic push on Capitol Hill for more budget-busting spending and greater protectionism bleeds into the presidential campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who promise to deconstruct NAFTA and to avoid almost all new taxes from here to eternity.A $300-billion, five-year agricultural bill recently proposed by the Democratic leadership immediately drew a veto threat from Bush, who on this one economic topic is in touch: "America's farm economy is thriving.

                • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 5:27:40 PM

                  NO president since Andrew Jackson has balanced the budget. Some economist believe that a balanced budget is actually a BAD thing.

                • Posted By: karo1958 @ 10/22/2008 5:11:04 PM

                  Keep in mind, NEOCON, the Democrats have barely a majority in the Senate - not enough to override a Bush veto, so Bush has always gotten everything he wanted.

                  • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 5:25:49 PM

                    Bush has used the veto only 12 times in 8 years with 4 being overturned. The dems could have pushed any bill they want through congress at anytime and there was nothing the rep could have done about it.

  • Posted By: FabianB3 @ 10/22/2008 5:24:42 PM

    I guess that fact that an Al-Qaeda representative is hopeful McCain wins to continue the failed economic and foreign policies of George Bush is yet another reason why the RNC must be ousted from the White House.

  • Posted By: karo1958 @ 10/22/2008 4:35:51 PM

    Great article! I've said for months now that I suspect the GOP leaders will engineer an Osama bin Ladin video and have it come out about a week before the election. The tape they released in 2004 was deliberately withheld from public knowledge for weeks so that Bush could reap the advantage of having it come out a week before the election. Just like the Bush administration is deliberately withholding the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) report on Afghanistan until AFTER the election - probably because the report will underscore everything Obama has been saying about Afghanistan for almost two years now.

    Any intelligent person would be suspicious of the way the Bush Administration - and the GOP in general - controls the dribs and drabs of information that it lets out to the public, with the intent of manipulating gullible voters. I wouldn't even be surprised if they engineered a "terrorist" attack (either real or fake) just a few days before the election so that the gullible and frightened voters will flock to McCain, in the false belief that McCain somehow has experience dealing with terrorism. McCain has military experience to the extent that he knows how to follow orders - he doesn't know how to give them, and if he had any smarts in strategy, he would probably have done better in the Naval Academy than graduating 5th from the bottom of his class.

    I respect those who serve in the military, but millitary service doesn't magically give them better judgement than the average person - after all, most people in the military follow orders, and they don't get to make up strategy or tactics. If I were giving McCain a grade for tactics and strategy in this campaign, I'd give him a D - barely passing. His first mistake, in my eyes, was to go let so many lobbyists and former Bush advisors manage his campaign. His second big mistake was choosing Palin as his VP.

    And just as a sidenote to GPSN, I suggest that YOU do your research; Obama is NOT a socialist, and if you're stupid enough to believe it based on McCain's twisting of Obama's words, then you need a few more lessons in the way American politics works.

    • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 4:52:48 PM

      I respect your opinion. I was born in a socialist country and I made a choice to move here. Obama's own words and campaign tell me that he is leading towards a socialist government and very similar to a government I grew up in. It's a simple observation from my own experiences and my own research. I dont need McCain or anyone to tell me what Obama is about.
      I have experienced a socialist government, have you?

      • Posted By: karo1958 @ 10/22/2008 5:05:01 PM

        I've traveled to quite a few non-democratic countriess, and I have friends who live in socialist countries. Nothing in Obama's words conveys "socialism" in the way you mean it. If you're really worried about socialism, you might ask why your Republican President was bailing out AIG and other financial institutions. It's not socialism to say that the rich people on Wall Street who got us into this financial crisis ought to pay for it. They are responsible so they SHOULD pay for it. What part of responsibility don't you understand?

        • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 5:20:08 PM

          by the way traveling and living in other countries is two different things. Traveling means you do it for pleasure and living means you do it as a necessity. I have actually lived in three different countries in my lifetime and still have not found a better place than America even with all its current problems, there is not a better place. If there was a better place, everyone will be flocking to it like they have flocked to come here.

        • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 5:09:22 PM

          I agree with you about the bailout. Just because the bailout happenned under Bush's administration it does not mean that it's a republican stance. Far from it. It's a socialist stance and a preview of more things to come with Obama.

      • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 5:04:12 PM

        A little careful consideration will show you that the old battle between classical socialism and capitalism is now a truce in modern America. Laissez-faire capitaiism was rife with horrible exploitive behavior, child labor, hazardous working conditions etc. Socialism transformed into the brutal Communism seen in the old USSR. etc. In America and all modern democracies, we have retained the dynamic drive of capitalism while tempering it with such 'socialistic' innovations as minimum Wage legislation, Occupational Health adn Safety standards,, Unemployment compensation, Social Security, etc. As long as we have a thriving middle class and a free press, we don't need to pay heed to the MacCarthyites. And yes, I have been to socialist countries and to a few capitalist dictatorships as well...

  • Posted By: granny02@msn.com @ 10/22/2008 4:57:55 PM

    I believe Bin Laden was captured a long time ago, and will no doubt be suddenly,-- pretend to be captured to either make Bush look good as he leaves, or McCain if he should win. It took 8 years for Clinto to clean up the mess Bush Sr. left, and the Naive voted for his son, who has made a much greater mess, and now they want McCain to win, to make the mess continue. I also believe if by chance Obama does win, another catastrophe will occur ,and be Blamed on others as 9/11 was.

    • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 5:05:17 PM

      Didnt you say the exact samething 4 years ago at the last election?

  • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 3:19:46 PM

    I thought we???d take a look at all of the known communists/Socialists/Marxists who have supported, endorsed, or influenced Obama. Let???s face it, radicals and tyrants tend to be commies, (Fidel Castro for instance), but in the interest of keeping this post down to a manageable size, I???m going to try to avoid duplications.
    What some might call, ???guilt by association??? I call Obama???s ???calling card???.
    So without further ado, Obama???s Litany of Shame Part One (not in any certain order):
    Frank Marshall Davis
    Here???s a charming example of his poetry:
    ???Remember this, you wise guys
    Your tales about Jesus of Nazareth are no-go with me
    I???ve got a dozen Christs in Dixie all bloody and black??????
    His ode to the ???Red Army??? contains this line:
    ???Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,???
    This is the guy who spent many hours advising and reading poetry to a young Barack Obama.

    Sam Graham-Felsen

    Sam Graham-Felsen, hired to run Obama???s blog, writes about Noam Chomsky in a Marxist publication that openly calls for revolution against the American government.

    Tim Wheeler

    Wheeler is a member of the CPUSA National Board and has been a mainstay of the party???s Baltimore Club since the early ???70s. From 1991 to 2003 Tim Wheeler served as editor of the party paper People???s Weekly World. Currently he is the PWW???s national political correspondent.

    His Dad

    Barack Obama organized his life on the ideals given to him by his Kenyan father. So what are those ideals, given to the young Obama by his Communist father?
    ??? 100% taxation
    ??? communal farms / the elimination of private farming
    ??? the nationalization of businesses owned by ???Europeans??? and ???Asians???.
    ??? ???active??? measures to bring about a classless society
    Socialists For Obama

    This capitalist system of Bush and his cronies only benefit the upper classes. USA needs a 21st Century Socialist, Democratic and Participative system for the workers and people of this country, without fascism, without wars, but with peace, equality, socialism and love.

    • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 3:47:36 PM

      America was built on democracy. America is the melting pot of nationalities that left their socialist, communist systems to become self independent and not to have to answer to the government. I am a foreigner. I have loved this country and what it stands for. I love my native country and I visit twice a year. The socialist system there would suffocate me like it has suffocated all my relatives but they are content only because they have not seen a better way of life. My point is, a socialist system is apparently ok when you dont know different but once you experience your liberties you never want to go back. I am proud to be an American now and I want to always be proud. That is why Obama's stance and socialist leaning scares me. Most of McCains's supporters are people who have experienced the European socialist governments which they left behind. Most of the Obama supporters are people who have never experienced or are very closed minded to other government ideals. I would encourage most of the Obama supporters to research his ideals and see what they would mean for you. I am speaking out of my own experience and a certain fear that comes from those ideals. Just my opinion. I will be voting for a good reason that means everything to me. My liberty.

      • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 4:14:08 PM

        You may have noticed that socialism thrive only in those countries which do not have a strong middle class. Republican policies are slowly eroding the middle class in this country. Jobs with benefits and a future are disappearing at an alarming rate. Talk to the young people of this country and you will see this to be true.

        • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 4:40:41 PM

          With all due respect, socialism is still not an answer for USA. The greediness and the ignorance by greedy and sleazy political lawyers and CEO's in the last two decades is what brought America to its knees at the moment and trust me America will bounce back from this. Greedy crooks come from all sides - democrats, republicans, independants, white, black, yellow, no matter. Greed is selfish and evil.
          I dont think it's the republican policies that are eroding middle class. I think it's the costly democrat policies that erode the whole American system. The recent bailout, eventhough it's under Bush's administration is definitely a liberal stance and will probably go down as one of the worst moves that the government has made. So it's liberal programs like this one that erode this nation. We will be paying for this bailout for decades and God knows if Obama goes through with his programs he is proposing as president, middle class will definitely be wiped out for sure, therefore socialism stands a chance even in America. I guess I should ask a simple question - why would you or anyone want socialism? I dont get it.

        • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 4:21:26 PM

          So you want to raise the taxes of the people who create the jobs? Smart economic policy. We already have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. Raise the taxes higher and you'll see more jobs going overseas to places like Ireland that has a 11% rates.

          • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 4:25:42 PM

            We have seen where your irresponsible mantra of tax cuts has gotten us so far. Have you been living under a rock? Your borrow and spend policy has left our children ten trillion in debt and our economy in shambles. Go peddle your snake oil elsewhere.

            • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 4:33:26 PM

              I do get so tired of hearing Obama and you progressives repeatedly regurgitating "the failed economic policies of the last eight years."
              What part doesn???t you understand?
              Here is the federal revenue per year. Note the huge increase from 2003 to 2006 after the 2001 recession? That's the result of the 2003 tax cuts.
              In the trillions:

              1998 $1.7
              1999 $1.8
              2000 $2.0
              2001 $1.9
              2002 $1.8
              2003 $1.7
              2004 $1.9
              2005 $2.1
              2006 $2.4
              2007 $2.5
              Source: U.S. Treasury monthly and yearly statements.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 3:52:48 PM

        Well spoken.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 10/22/2008 4:36:03 PM

    McCain said clearly about Bin Laden: I KNOW HOW TO GET HIM.

    If he really knows, how come he has NOT told Bush and the rest of this country?

    If he knows, it is despicable that he is keeping it to himself.

    If he does NOT know, then IT IS A BALD FACE LIE to simply pander for votes.

    Is this what McCain calls putting country first? Or is this just putting John McCain first?


  • Posted By: robertkjjj @ 10/22/2008 10:32:17 AM

    Obama, Osama, what's the difference?

    • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 12:25:45 PM

      They both know someone that bombed the pentagon.

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/22/2008 3:15:55 PM

        hahaha, ooo man...funny thing about the "bomb" is that from hundereds of witnesses saw something that couldnt be defined if it was a small fighter jet plane or a missile...it definately didnt leave any remnants of the usuall jet liner crash, you know, wings, cockpit, flaming corpes...but it left a convenient hole in the side of the pentagon where conveiniently there happened to be no people in that section on that day...hmmm i know someone who struck the pentagon witha missle and its G W Bush...low and behold, we are in the middle east fighting for our "freedom" thousands of miles away...how does that work again? people so worried about protecting our "freedom" abroad we didnt notice our freedom here getting taking out from under us...

        do you think our government tells us the truth at all? maybe in some matters but we are constantly lied too, just watch a video of the World trade centers falling IDENTICAL TO A DEMOLITION...tell me how a plane is capable of making two of the largest buildings on earth collapse in on themselves? and jet fuel is nowhere near hot enough to melt through steal that is up to 3 feet thick, it would burn to fast in open air anyways. AND those buildings were built to withstand a jet flying right into them, they were designed to withstand a force like that...and how convienient building 7 happened to be destroyed too, yet no plane hit it, and it was4-5 blocks away from the trade centers...we were lied to by your pal bush and his regime of crooks...

        • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 3:46:23 PM

          Considering I had 2 friends killed in the Pentagon attack and 2 others decorated for their efforts to save lifes I just chalk you comments up to pure ignorance.

          • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/22/2008 4:05:22 PM

            well my apologies, then your right...obama helped kill thousands of americans...ive had friends die to because of this war, several came back and will never be the same...the ones that died were lied to by our great government and military recruiters...they were told they would be computer analysts in the outskirts of bhagdad...turns out they were really getting stuck in humvees having roadside bombs go off and having bullets wizzing by they're heads...regardless of our losses of friends and foes, this government, the government/regime you are supporting has come out and blatantly said they lied to go into iraq...what else do you think they lied about? and even so, your friends died in the attack on the pentagon...wheres the evidence it was a bomb? did you see pictures? they would have us beleive it was a plane that ran into the pentagon...so wheres the evidence? you would beleive that obama had a hand in it or knew who did what when and where...so wheres your evidence...

            my POINT is that we as the american people have been lied to on grand scales, our government has made so many bad decisions that we have been alienated from the rest of the world lest a few countries and die hard allies...

            and why are some of the detainees "involved" in the 9/11 disaster going free from guantonamo? wheres osama? dead? alive? why and how can we have the most advanced military on the planet and spending 10 billion a month on a 2 front war and we are unable to find 1 man in some mountains...we found saddam in a rat hole in the middle of nowhere and we cant find osama??? with multiple unmanned surveilance craft flying the skies constantly, gound recon, secret inteligence, "moles", informants...seems strange doesnt it?

            • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 4:15:17 PM

              I cased no blame at Obama just his assiocate.

              • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/22/2008 4:24:58 PM

                you mean his AMERICAN associate that he served on a board with for a few years....the same associate that commited crimes at a time when obama was only 8 yrs old??? that associate? hmmm his ASSOCIATE was definatley recruiting 8-10 yr olds to carry out strategic bombing within US borders...i dont defend this man, i will defend obama because he worked with him YEARS after the fact of the crimes commited.

                again im sorry for spreading wrong information, and im sorry to hear about your friends that perished in the attack...honestly

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/22/2008 12:01:33 PM

      oh u know, a few thousand miles, religion, beliefs, a turbin, and occupation, ones a terrorist mastermind and one is attempting to be the leader of the free world......other than that they are both human true enough...

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 10/22/2008 4:17:16 PM

    McCain said clearly about Bin Laden: I KNOW HOW TO GET HIM.

    If he really knows, how come he has NOT told Bush and the rest of this country?

    If he knows, it is despicable that he is keeping it to himself.

    If he does NOT know, then IT IS A BALD FACE LIE to simply pander for votes.

    Is this what McCain calls putting country first? Or is this just putting John McCain first?

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/22/2008 4:15:29 PM

    Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell says he spent two and a half hours trying to persuade President George W. Bush not to invade Iraq.

    'I tried to avoid this war. I took him through the consequences of going into an Arab country and becoming the occupiers,' Powell told a packed audience at the 2007 Aspen Ideas Festival at the Aspen Institute.

    'When we became liberators, we also became occupiers,' he said. 'There was no governing structure and we had to become that structure.'

    'The civil war will ultimately be resolved by a test of arms. It's not going to be pretty to watch, but I don't know any way to avoid it. It is happening now,' Powell added.

    'It is not a civil war that can be put down or solved by the armed forces of the United States,' he said.

    http://story.malaysiasun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/b8de8e630faf3631/id/263171/cs/1/

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 10/22/2008 4:13:11 PM

    McCain said clearly about Bin Laden: I KNOW HOW TO GET HIM.

    If he really knows, how come he has NOT told Bush and the rest of this country?

    If he knows, it is despicable that he is keeping it to himself.

    If he does NOT know, then IT IS A BALD FACE LIE to simply pander for votes.

    Is this what McCain calls putting country first? Or is this just putting John McCain first?

  • Posted By: Ohg Rea Tone @ 10/22/2008 11:00:42 AM

    Barack Obama has built and image based on Pride in Country and Hope for the future - he will not be derailed by and negative tactics by the radical right. ..................

    http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/21/senator-obama-to-sir-with-love-2/

    • Posted By: Guitargrrl @ 10/22/2008 1:53:06 PM

      Hi. Radical right-wing person here. i disagree with letting a baby who survives an abortion die alone in a linen closet. your 'savior,' Obama, was presented with proof that this was happening in his own state of Illinois. He declined to vote on measures that would ensure this practice be stopped. That's EVIL. There's something in the Bible about days in which people call GOOD (preserving the sacred gift of life for example) evil and EVIL (exterminating the helpless/voiceless) good. hmmm.

      In a 2006 speech, Obama demonstrated his opposition to a Biblical worldview by twisting God's own words, making Him fine with homosexuality. Let's see, should I believe God or Obama?

      The entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation is about Christ. If you don't know that now, you will find out the minute you die. Christ (who is God) is NOT okay with homosexuality nor any other sin (including gossip, lying etc.) It's all in the book of Deuteronomy, which Obama mocked in the aforementioned speech, I say, shuddering for him.)

      Every human sins (fails to keep the commandments.) If you agree with God about this, AND turn your back on sin and towards Him in true repentance (look it up in the dictionary,) AND you Trust Him to save you on the basis of the blood He shed, making it possible for God to call you His child, tell Him and He will give you the gift of His Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit (the mark of a TRUE Christian) people mangle God's words to make them fit THEIR beliefs. This is dangerous, and damnable (literally.) Bow to the True Biblical God now, or bow later. The Bible itself is FULL of actual people who had the same choices we do.

      Luke 16:19-31 details the afterlife of 2 characters. Is it merely a parable? Or is it a glimpse into eternity? Either way, there's a sad truth as the man in hell tries to have someone sent to his family to warn them about hell. Interestingly, Abraham refers both BACK to the patriarchs and forward to Christ's resurrection in answering the man. He's basically saying "all the information your family needs is available to them, and 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead' which is an obvious reference to Christ's resurrection.

      The Bible is more than a book. It is the inerrant, unchanging Word of God. It's the only book we will be measured by in the end. It's a shame that more people don't know this. The consequences of either ignoring it or twisting it to make it say what we wish it would say are eternal. It's not my plan, it's God's and it's a good one.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 10/22/2008 2:06:04 PM

        Oh and PS--if we base the laws of this country on religion, we're ignoring what our forefathers stood for. What about all the Jews, Muslims, agnostics, atheists, Buddhists, etc? They can't live here?

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/22/2008 3:34:24 PM

          Hi summer that is what one might be led to believe from some of the posts on this site.

      • Posted By: Heleneeeeee123 @ 10/22/2008 3:32:08 PM

        Read the Book, kiddo. The first book, or Old Testament, is a compilation of an oral history recording the triumphs and failures of a tribal people and a compilation of legal decisions with commentary of the rulings of tribal judges relating to community life. Whether or not it is infallible, reading it sure leaves you with the sense that there are more than two sides to every issue and that it is important to change with the times.

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 10/22/2008 2:05:00 PM

        There is already a law on the books protecting infants born alive during abortion. Didn't you watch the debates?

  • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 3:19:25 PM

    Part Deux:

    Democratic Socialists of America
    Obama has been associated with this group since his days as a Chicago ???community organizer???. In 1996 he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the DSA for his IL state senate seat.
    Communist Party USA:
    Barack Obama???s campaign has so far generated the most excitement, attracted the most votes, most volunteers and the most money. We think the basic reason for this is that his campaign has the clearest message of unity and progressive change, while having a real possibility for victory in November.
    Bernie Sanders

    Interestingly, Sanders, who won his seat in 2006, called Obama ???one of the great leaders of the United States Senate,??? even though Obama had only been in the body for about two years. In 2007, the National Journal said that Obama had established himself as ???the most liberal Senator.??? More liberal than Sanders? That is quite a feat. Does this make Obama a socialist, too?

    Reverend Wright (before he was thrown under the bus)

    Michelle Obama

    ** For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.
    ** (Again) For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country.
    ** Life is not good.
    ** We???re a divided country.
    ** We???re a country that is ???just downright mean."
    ** We are ???guided by fear."
    ** We???re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents.
    ** We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day.
    ** Americans don't want much.
    ** Someone is going to have to give up a piece of their pie so that someone else can have more.
    ** You're alone in your failure.
    ** Folks are just jammed up, and it???s gotten worse over my lifetime.



    William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn
    Fidel Castro
    Daniel Ortega
    Progressives For Obama
    FARC

  • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 3:19:05 PM

    Part three
    Hugo Chavez
    Bill Richardson who visited Venezuela, in essence delivered Hugo???s endorsement
    Saul Alinsky, the radical Marxist whose teachings so influenced Obama


    Raila Amolo Odinga

    Raila Odinga was educated in communist E. Germany, and his father Oginga Odinga led the communist opposition during the Cold War.
    ??????Raila Odinga???s official presidential website is similar to Barack Obama???s, and Odinga???s main campaign message and slogan is: CHANGE. Vote for Change. Agent of Change. Look at his website: http://www.raila07.com/
    The New Party:
    The New Party is an unabashed Marxist ???fusion??? party from which Barack Obama actively sought out and received an endorsement for his state senate candidacy (in 1996).
    Obama was actually a member of this far left/Socialist party, the electoral arm of ACORN.

    George Galloway

    Mike Klonsky

    Klonsky belonged to the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and was best friends with friends William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who later became famous for their acts of terrorism.
    Today he posts a blog on the Obama websitee.Between 1979 and 1981, Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) (CPML) chairman and Obama supporter Mike Klonsky was repeatedly feted with state-dinner-level visits to Beijing.Joelle Fishman???the chairman of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) Political Action Commission. In a column titled, ???Big political shifts are underway,??? Fishman says that Obama could lead ???a landslide defeat of the Republican ultra-right??? this November and that he is ???ready to listen??? to the ???left and progressive voters??? backing him. Fishman makes it clear that the CPUSA is part of this coalition.

  • Posted By: JON BROOKS @ 10/22/2008 1:57:21 PM

    Wow! And if he's not, which as of now is ..true..only conhecture, but lets conjecture away shall we?
    Soros is going to be one peeved puppy. Barak or Barry or Boondoggle (whatever his real name
    the man has so many aka's its confusing) will have to pay back $600 -750 million? Since (only conjectoring now) it was by deceit, he may be on the hook for that cash personally. Plus those who donated under the radar (many thousands of times in $200 credit card bits) may now be really really really PO'ed themselves
    and will rat him out and then we will then get to see who the real foreign interests were. Then again maybe not they may still want to illegally contribute to his succesor (only conjecture here after all). Now would Biden
    move to the top and Hillary come in as Veep? Would they hold another convention and postpone election day? Would Howard Dean really scream now? Oh boy this could be the best entertainment of the new millenia!!!! Would we find out that major news medias knew about it all along? Wouldn't suprise me:)
    Is Karl Rove rolling on a hotel room floor laughing his ..you know whats off..right now? Oh perfidy..thy name is Barak..or Barry or whatever. This is just to to good..thus it cannot be true. What is Pelosi and her 9% solution congress doing now?..any news?..I am besides myself with glee. As Geronimo once said..
    It is a good day to die:) Only bad thing is some moonbat will try to kill Berg if its true for depriving them of
    God's latest one and only son, re-incarnated, omnipresent, the Lord High almighty, the Ayatollah of Rock and Rollah..Barak Huessin Obama!!!!!
    I am sure the

    • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 2:11:28 PM

      It is painfully obvious to the most casual observer that heavy and prolonged cogitation is a grueling chore for you. This is a result of and a downside to listening exclusively to Rush and Sean. The brain gradually atrophies and loses the ability to form or express independent opinions. The hapless but aptly named 'dittohead' is reduced to a hollow shell, endlessly parroting and repeating Faux News talking points.

  • Posted By: injustonepost @ 10/22/2008 2:04:26 PM

    Kareem Khan was a month from finishing his tour when he was killed.

    On Sunday, Powell said that Khan's sacrifice and service had swayed him to discuss the way that Muslims have been portrayed in the presidential campaign, and the contention that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is a Muslim.

    Obama "is a Christian," Powell said. "He has always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, 'What if he is?' Is there something wrong with being Muslim in this country? The answer is no. That is not America." He added: "I am troubled that within the (Republican) Party we have these kinds of expressions" suggesting that Obama is a Muslim, and that if he is, he likely associates with terrorists.

    Powell said that he felt strongly about the issue after he saw a photo of Khan's tombstone in the New Yorker magazine. In the black-and-white picture, Khan's mother is resting her head on her son's tombstone. On each side of the stone are flowers, and in between is a copy of the Quran. On the face of the tombstone is a crescent and star, indicating that the soldier buried there is a Muslim.

    "He was an American," Powell said.

  • Posted By: TXJim @ 10/22/2008 1:11:58 PM

    Neocon you are an idiot. Why dont you get off your ass and find a job instead of listening to Rush Limbaugh all day. You are part of the problem that believes everything you hear right wing radio spews. They know that McCain wont win so they are trying to "win" on technicalities. Its BS and you know it, and a desperate attempt to try anything to keep from being flattened by a well oiled Obama campaign.

    • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/22/2008 1:25:33 PM

      Funny how these people are putting credibility in a lawsuit filed by Philip J Berg. This is the same guy that in 2001 asked Supreme Court Justices Thomas, Scalia and O'Connor to voluntarily disbar themselves for their decision in Bush v. Gore. He also sued President Bush in 2004 under a RICO lawsuit on behalf of Willie Rodriguez. And now the right wing bloggers are on his side?

      • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 1:58:16 PM

        Actually there are 4 suits against Obama on this issue. Berg is just one of them.

    • Posted By: neocon @ 10/22/2008 1:32:35 PM

      Technicalities? -I think knowing if your POTUS is a US citizen is pretty relevant wouldn???t you agree?

      ???Its BS and you know it, and a desperate attempt to try anything to keep from being flattened by a well oiled Obama campaign.??? ???I don???t know it and neither does the Federal Judge in Philadelphia, has he has rejected every attempt to have the case throughout by the DNC and the Obama camp. I fact the DNC and Obama had until 10/15 to product the required documentation and haven???t.

      ???Why don???t you get off your ass and find a job instead of listening to Rush Limbaugh all day. You are part of the problem that believes everything you hear right wing radio spews.???-Typical ???progressive??? spew, if you can???t argue the facts try to insult the person. I am at work. I???m a Network Engineer working in a skiffed data center so I don???t get phone signal let alone radio.

    • Posted By: JON BROOKS @ 10/22/2008 1:17:22 PM

      Didn't Ayers "win" his freedom on a technicality? They can be useful at times.

  • Posted By: obamagirl80 @ 10/22/2008 12:07:03 PM

    seriously, if mc cain know how to catch him, why didn't he help is goodfriend whom he report that he agree with 95% of his view

    • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/22/2008 12:12:00 PM

      I sometimes wonder if the focus went away from Osama Bin Laden simply because he is a great "tool of fear" to win elections. They can always pull him out of their hat when they need to win an election.

      • Posted By: varacefan @ 10/22/2008 1:48:38 PM

        I only wish you were correct. I actually believe you are kidding yourself. If they could get him they would.

  • Posted By: varacefan @ 10/22/2008 1:40:25 PM

    How many of you guys posting are paid hacks from the Obama campain? I can picture you guys sitting around all day in your flip flops comparing notes. Either that or the Warden does not realise you guys have the internet in your cells. You have a canidate you believe in that is great. But to do what many of you are doing buying everything hook line and sinker is scary. Sounds like you are desprate for something to believe in. I truly hope it works out for you.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/22/2008 1:47:09 PM

      I'm an Obama supporter.

      But, I have to admit....this post IS funny. LOL!!!!!!!!

      Even funnier is the GOP circus. This young, masterful, eloquent, strong-willed, calm, cool, collected is making McC and Palin look like a 3Stooges skit.

      Even if I didn't agree w/ his policies, he'd get my vote just on that basis...LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/22/2008 1:44:52 PM

    The only October surprise left depends on the desperation level of Senator McCain. Will he play to the worst in us and play the race card? One would never have had to ask this of the 2000 John McCain. Let us hope that the 2008 John McCain will be able to hold onto what is left of his tattered integrity and stand up to Steve Schmidt and the far right on this one.

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/22/2008 11:34:38 AM

    Does anyone know where I can find a transcript of Sen. Biden's speecha about Obama being tested. I heard the speech but of course some McCain supporters are trying to spin it into something that it is NOT. I would like to reply to their comments with the correct wording from that speech.

    If anyone knows where I can find this speech please provide a link. thanks

    • Posted By: TXJim @ 10/22/2008 11:47:46 AM

      What people don't realize is both McCain and Obama have already been tested. The financial crisis has had a far greater impact on all Americans than any terrorist attack. What was their reaction? McCain said he suspended his campaign, when he really didn't (panic and pander). Obama took a day or two to come up with a well thought out structure for the bailout. Then encouraged others to support the bailout.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/22/2008 1:43:34 PM

        I agree completely. it is just that McCain and his breathers are trying to make the point that somehow Biden is suggesting that Obama is not fit to be president. I heard his speech and that is not at all what he said. I will be so glad when this election is over.

        I live in Los Angeles and I am trying to find an early voting station so that I will not havr to deal with all of the nonsense. I usually vote absentee but not this time!

    • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 11:40:08 AM

      You are so funny. You havent heard or read the speech and you are already claiming a spin on it.

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/22/2008 11:43:51 AM

        you are so funny, you havent read his post entirely... "i heard the speech"...and yes, the republicans are putting a spin on it and making it negative, of course...

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/22/2008 1:40:51 PM

          Thank you LOL!

        • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 11:45:14 AM

          if it looks like duck, walks like a duck........

          • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/22/2008 11:47:26 AM

            It might just be a penguin, or a goose, or possibly even a nun.

            • Posted By: gpsn @ 10/22/2008 11:51:28 AM

              yep!! typical democratic view: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck it's not necessarily a duck. Trying to pull the wool over our eyes.

              • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/22/2008 1:40:11 PM

                WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? Never mind don't bother since you are only allowd 3K characters in a post and I KNOW that you would need so so much more space LOL!

              • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/22/2008 11:56:22 AM

                For years, people thought the sun circled around the earth, because it looked that way. Someone of higher intelligence looked at all the facts before making a conclusion.

                • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/22/2008 12:00:19 PM

                  The correct conclusion. And I believe he was even jailed by political operatives because of his views which were correct. Look up Gallileo.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/22/2008 1:38:37 PM

        aWWWW! READ MUCH NO!

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