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  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/24/2008 12:41:04 AM

    Obama in this video, addressing his work with ACORN litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act and the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, as they relate to the current real estate and financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    ???Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified.???

    ??? The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one.???

    Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related


    Obama in this second video is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other ???Community Activist??? organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President, Obama says, quote:

    ???Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama promised that Acorn and other groups like it will setting his agenda if elected:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU
    Below is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
    See also
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732 from this web site. (oops!) stating that Freddie Mac was spending tax payer money to target Republicans in 2005 who were trying to regulate Fannie and Freddies fraud. Democrats were not targeted, as the were all in the tank with Fannie and Freddie to kill the regulations. Hear that, the article admits that Republicans were trying to regulate Freddie and Fannie, and Democrats were trying to stop it from happening as a means to facilitate the Community Reinvestment Act.

    See also: http://www.newsweek.com/id/164972
    Stating that Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act wasn't what caused the meltdown, and noting that "economists on both sides of the political spectrum have suggested that the act has probably made the crisis less severe than it might otherwise have been."


  • Posted By: tippology1 @ 10/23/2008 8:57:37 AM

    We all hope the Bradley effect works this time, but with Obama planning a run for the White House 5yrs ago it is 50/50. This guy has manage to fool America at it's best and worse times and we will suffer if he get in office. We will suffer, once the taxes are raised and racial tention will flurish. Obama has made long time friends turn on each other to get him elected and I think a friendship or a business partner is far more important this this clown. Obama is the worse choice for president we have ever had this deep into an election and again one day someday if he is elected we will suffer. So I say wake up Tom Bradley and lets pull one our the hat.............Get this Clown, uncle tom, wanna be out of here. McCain 08

    • Posted By: hawkdad73 @ 10/23/2008 10:36:00 AM

      You lose all validity when you call him Uncle Tom. When did this become a racist country....'Uncle Tom' is racist at its core.

      • Posted By: tippology1 @ 10/24/2008 12:16:42 AM

        Thie only thing me and Obama has in common is that I have always thought about using the race card to get ahead and he have done so. Obama have use the race card in a number of occassions , one with Rev Wright and his grand speech on race. I listen to the speech and I was thinking, the question on the table has nothing to do with race but has everything to do with a church that speaks of hatred. He use race card to cover up the fact of his deep involvement with Wright and the American public bought it like a cheap meal.....how stupid can a person be. Second if Michelle Obama was white, there would be no Obama because in the Black Community he would be a sell out plain and simple. Third, Obama has not at any time tell the black voters to not vote for him because of his appearance, and to vote for him based on his experience. My guess is that he doesn't have any experience to speak on. So call me what you want, Obama may become president ( it sure looks like it) but i my community regardless of his status even as president he is a UNCLE TOM and will always be. He has choosen to be a puppet for the media and they have sold is sad ass story to the public as a black man, but you can't have it both ways and that is what the older generation see him as. Don't ask me ask someone of a decent age what they think of Obama and they will tell you.
        So hawkdad, and all the other idoits voting for Obama----many of you can go back to your story book world after the election and pay your higher taxes, but this country is stupid for following a leader like Obama and being pimped by the MEDIA.......................To close, Obama in my eyes once more is an UNCLE TOM,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and will always be.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/23/2008 2:15:38 PM

        Sadly, it is the racist who hate being called racist the most. In other news here are the States were McCain is leading:

        ND, MO, IN, WV, ID,UT, AZ, AK, TX, LA, MS, AL, GA, SC,TN, KY, OK, NE, SD, LA

        Nothing wrong with those States. I'm just saying.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 10/23/2008 2:48:14 PM

          Ask, half of these states supporting MC here speak very loudly...the southern ones mostly.

      • Posted By: El Duende @ 10/23/2008 1:23:25 PM

        America became a racist country around the mid 1600s and there is no innoculatio0n against it.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:57:21 PM

    ter 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

    Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

    Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 TRILLION of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

    Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

    Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

    Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

    And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

    In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:57:12 PM

    ter 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

    Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

    Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 TRILLION of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

    Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

    Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

    Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

    And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

    In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 10/21/2008 6:18:03 PM

    I am praying that white America will not resort back to the Bradley effect. We already see that 70 countries want Obama to win.

    • Posted By: Pocolodi @ 10/21/2008 6:25:52 PM

      70 countries? Well, by all means let's negate what half of America thinks and elect Obama!

      • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 10/21/2008 9:51:24 PM

        Exactly! Why don't we just follow the Democratic primary model and elect the POTUS by acclamation! To hell with counting votes, lets just measure spirit! And forget about the fact that other countries SHOULDN'T have any say in who we elect as OUR advocate, lets just open the borders and have a kumbaya moment and christen the magical World Leader.

        • Posted By: votingforacause @ 10/23/2008 7:55:56 PM

          You idiot do you think United States STANDS ALONE IN THIS world? Look at what has been happening with the global economy since the "United States Recession" Dont you think its about time for idiots like you to develop some education about other peoples of the world in order to end the senless war and not be afraid to have your children (if you have any for you sound like a younuk to me) feeling safe in this country again?
          That is what President OBAMA will do for persons like you for you sound very ignorant to me.

      • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/22/2008 2:55:33 AM

        Actually, more than half of America wants Obama as POTUS. Technically.

        And wouldn't it be nice to have allies again?

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:50:45 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:50:36 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:49:48 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:49:40 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: votingforacause @ 10/23/2008 7:34:21 PM

    That depends on which god the decision of this election relies on. Life and death lies in the power of the tongue but she chooses to speak ill over others lives from one end of her mouth yet seek to sing praises to her and MCCain through the other side . How low is she willing to go?

    Sound like she would sell her Soul if the devil comes bidding?

  • Posted By: votingforacause @ 10/23/2008 7:11:44 PM

    How can Sarah Palin mention Jesus beats me. When Jesus was on earth he advocated for the cause of the less fortunate. Palin, "What would Jesus?" certainly not go on a $150 000.00 shopping spree after causing so many persons to loose their jobs after running the economy to wreck. SPEW! everyone who says LORD ENTER THE KINGDOM! If my vote can help it you shall view the promised land but never enter.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 6:57:43 PM

    Obama in this video, addressing his work with ACORN litigation relating to the community reinvestment act and the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, as they relate to the current real estate and financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

    He further states:

    ???"The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

    Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

    Obama in this second video is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other "Community Activist" organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President, Obama says, quote:

    ???Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda. We???re going to be having meetings all across the country with community organizations so that you have input into the agenda for the next presidency of the United States of America.

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama promised that Acorn and other groups like it will setting his agenda if elected:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU
    See also: http://www.newsweek.com/id/164972
    Stating that Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act wasn't what caused the meltdown, and noting that "economists on both sides of the political spectrum have suggested that the act has probably made the crisis less severe than it might otherwise have been."
    See also:
    http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?threadid=808692&boardsparam=Page%3d2

    Below is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
    See also
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732 from this web site. (oops!) stating that Freddie Mac was spending tax payer money to target Republicans in 2005 who were trying to regulate Fannie and Freddies fraud. Democrats were not targeted, as the were all in the tank with Fannie and Freddie to kill the regulations. Hear that, the article admits that Republicans were trying to regulate Freddie and Fannie, and Democrats were trying to stop it from happening as a means to facilitate the Community Reinvestment Act.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 5:54:44 PM

    Three surveys -- from the Associated Press-GfK, George Washington University and an Investors Business Daily/TIPP poll - - show McCain closing the gap with Obama.

    The AP poll puts Obama at 44 percent to McCain's 43 percent, compared with a 7 percentage point advantage for Obama in their September survey. The GW Battleground poll showed Obama's edge at 2 points, down from 7 points in the middle of October, while the IDB/TIPP tracking survey has the margin for the Democrat narrowing to 1 point from 5 points at the start of the week.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aWRlkNLTILM8&refer=home

  • Posted By: BUSHSUCKS2008 @ 10/23/2008 1:45:45 PM

    I wonder when John McCain will be so desperate as to put his running mate out on a street corner to "WORK" on her back for a few more votes, she already dresses, and acts like a "HOOKER" not to mention she has no brain, is that the kind of person we want to represent our country

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 10/23/2008 2:45:39 PM

      BushS, I don't like Sarah Palin either, but ,please, try to refrain fron posting tasteless comments about her..it makes Obama supporters look bad. Besides, she has helped MC lose the election already..she's no threat to Obama's win.

      • Posted By: BUSHSUCKS2008 @ 10/23/2008 4:01:00 PM

        pia , yes you are correct, and since when do we "GROW PIES" that commment came right out of John McCains "PIE HOLE" LOL. Geeze, can I grow some pies, so i don't have to turn on my stove to "BAKE ONE" LOL.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/23/2008 3:07:35 PM

      Hi Bush,

      I agree with Pia, what we do not want to do is stoop to the level of the McCain campaign. Let them roll around in the mud all by themselves as it seems to be working really well for them.

  • Posted By: MChieco @ 10/23/2008 3:56:26 PM

    John McCain , Tax cuts to big Oil, tax cuts to Exxon . Tax cuts to Billionares . Tax cuts to CEO's that pissed away your 401K. If you are the middle class and you vote for McCain , you must be gay , because you are getting it rammed up your ***.

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/23/2008 11:44:35 AM

    Voters say they were duped into registering as Republicans

    YPM, a group hired by the GOP, allegedly deceived Californians who thought they were signing a petition. YPM denies any wrongdoing. Similar accusations have been leveled against the company elsewhere

    SACRAMENTO -- Dozens of newly minted Republican voters say they were duped into joining the party by a GOP contractor with a trail of fraud complaints stretching across the country.

    Voters contacted by The Times said they were tricked into switching parties while signing what they believed were petitions for tougher penalties against child molesters. Some said they were told that they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Others had no idea their registration was being changed.

    linkhttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.story?track=ntothtml

    • Posted By: El Duende @ 10/23/2008 1:20:06 PM

      I hope you feel better upon release.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/23/2008 3:12:54 PM

        Ok, so now the Los Angeles times is not considered a reputable media outlet.

        Ok so the list of major media outlets that some McCain supporters believe are "In The Tank" for Obama include.

        New York Times
        CNN
        MSNBC
        Los Angeles Times
        Washington Post

        El Duende, did I miss anyone? Please by all means share with me the name of a major news organization that you consider reputable. Since Obama obviously owns all the ones listed. Wow! that Obama is a powerful man, makes one wonder why he wants to even bother the the presidency of the US since he is obviously already "KING OF THE WORLD OR IS IT KING OF THE UNIVERSE? LOL!

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/23/2008 3:05:17 PM

    Republicans Endorsing Obama

    PARTIAL LIST

    Chuck Hagel US Senator, Nebraska
    Wayne Gilchrest US House of Representatives, Maryland
    Richard Riordan Former Mayor, LA, California
    Lincoln Chafee Former US Senator, Rhode Island
    William D. Ruckelshaus Former Indiana House of Representatives
    Jim Leach Former US House of Representatives, Iowa
    Susan Eisenhower
    Jim Whitaker Fairbanks North Star Borough Mayor
    Linwood Holton Former Governor Virginia

    I copied this list off of Republicans for Obama

    link: http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/2482

    I am now trying to find a list of Democrats who have switched over to McCain. Lieberman does not count as his days as a Dem Senator are surely coming to an end!

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/22/2008 9:58:02 PM

    It turns out that RNC has spent $150,000 on clothes for Sarah Palin. They also spent $100 for a romper and hat for little Trig, which he wore on stage at the GOP convention.

    A hundred dollar onesie? (And these people are saying that Obama would be a profligate spender.)

    Did you know that the outfit Cindy McCain wore when she appeared at the convention cost $330,000?

    The RNC says that later Sarah's clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNC's version of "trickle down spending.") But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?

    Fifteen years ago, McCain wrote an amendment to tighten the law on using campaign funds for personal items like clothing and stylists. In May of 1993, McCain said this on the Senate floor "The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly."

    I guess he forgot what his prior position was. Again.

    Just like he forgot that he used to be pro-Choice and pro-gay marriage and pro-immigration reform. He also forgot that he used to be afiliated with ACORN, and with G. Gordon Liddy. If he is lying to cover up what his prior positions have been, shame on him. If he really can't remember, maybe the detractors who claim his mind is aging are correct.

    One last thought: is the GOP paying for Bristol Palin's maternity wear?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 10/23/2008 3:46:32 AM


      Nins, in response to your post:

      It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign, s spokesman (Tracey Schmitt) from John McCain's campaign. I don???t understand the dedication of 6 pages in a Newsweek article about this subject, especially given it has been stated and planned from the get go to have all the clothes to go to charity or auctioned off.

      YOU SAID: The RNC says that later Sarahs clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNCs version of trickle down spending.) But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?

      MY RESPONSE: Nins, I am surprised at you making this cynical (mean-spirited) comment in your blog below. I say this cuz you are a professional like myself and that you must know there are a great many organizations that Governor Palin could contribute this wardrobe to other than to ???homeless people???. Namely many organizations that help women by donating professional suits, blouses, shoes, etc. to aid them in getting into the workforce and/or furthering venture into a respectable career. Come on. . .really now, homeless people?

      SAMPLING OF CHARITIES:

      WARDROBE FOR OPPORTUNITY:

      Wardrobe for Opportunity is a non-profit organization that helps low-income women successfully transition into the workforce.
      http://www.wardrobe.org/

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      DRESS FOR SUCCESS

      Dress for Success is a non-profit organization that helps woman gain employment and journey towards self-sufficiency. This national organization distributes women's business suits and other professional clothing to women around the country. Women receive a business suit, shoes and accessories. Those who are hired receive work outfits. You can bring unwanted interview-appropriate suits, separates, shoes, accessories, unused undergarments and unopened cosmetics to a local Dress for Success affiliate. Some affiliates also accept coats.

      http://www.dressforsuccess.org/supportdfs_donate_clothing.aspx

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      SUITED FOR SUCCESS:

      Suited for Success, Inc. (SFS) is a nonprofit organization providing FREE interview attire for low-income men and women transitioning from social service agencies, domestic violence shelters and a number of job readiness programs.

      http://suitedforsuccessvirginia.org/



      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/23/2008 2:22:32 PM

        And if you really believe it's going to charity...

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 10/23/2008 2:51:22 PM

          The designer pieces will be going the way of the Jet Palin "supposedly' sold on Ebay.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 10/23/2008 2:50:26 PM

        Wouldn't it make more sense if the designer clothing was sold and the proceeds were donated to charity?

    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 8:39:15 AM

      How much did Obama's Greek Columns cost?

    • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 10/22/2008 10:57:39 PM

      Who cares? Obama is charging the press for election night coverage. At this rate he will be doing exactly what you are accusing others of. Obama can donate those funds to charity. You really are hypocritical.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 10/23/2008 3:50:51 AM


        Right. Just another way of SPREADHING THE US WEALTH CUZ IT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. Lol.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 10/23/2008 3:49:07 AM



      Nins, in response to your post:

      It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign, s spokesman (Tracey Schmitt) from John McCain's campaign. I don???t understand the dedication of 6 pages in a Newsweek article about this subject, especially given it has been stated and planned from the get go to have all the clothes to go to charity or auctioned off.

      YOU SAID: The RNC says that later Sarahs clothes will be donated to charity. OK, so some homeless person will get to wear this stuff on the streets of New Orleans. (Maybe this is the RNCs version of trickle down spending.) But wouldn't the homeless be better served by $150,000 donation to a shelter or a food bank than by designer clothing?

      MY RESPONSE: Nins, I am surprised at you making this cynical (mean-spirited) comment in your blog below. I say this cuz you are a professional like myself and that you must know there are a great many organizations that Governor Palin could contribute this wardrobe to other than to ???homeless people???. Namely many organizations that help women by donating professional suits, blouses, shoes, etc. to aid them in getting into the workforce and/or furthering venture into a respectable career. Come on. . .really now, homeless people?

      SAMPLING OF CHARITIES:

      WARDROBE FOR OPPORTUNITY:

      Wardrobe for Opportunity is a non-profit organization that helps low-income women successfully transition into the workforce.
      http://www.wardrobe.org/

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      DRESS FOR SUCCESS

      Dress for Success is a non-profit organization that helps woman gain employment and journey towards self-sufficiency. This national organization distributes women's business suits and other professional clothing to women around the country. Women receive a business suit, shoes and accessories. Those who are hired receive work outfits. You can bring unwanted interview-appropriate suits, separates, shoes, accessories, unused undergarments and unopened cosmetics to a local Dress for Success affiliate. Some affiliates also accept coats.

      http://www.dressforsuccess.org/supportdfs_donate_clothing.aspx

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      SUITED FOR SUCCESS:

      Suited for Success, Inc. (SFS) is a nonprofit organization providing FREE interview attire for low-income men and women transitioning from social service agencies, domestic violence shelters and a number of job readiness programs.

      http://suitedforsuccessvirginia.org/

  • Posted By: think4yourself @ 10/23/2008 2:29:57 PM

    People are not going to vote for Obama because of Racisim. But because of "RATIONALISM"

    McCain/Palin 08

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 10/23/2008 2:40:29 PM

      Lol! You are so funny! McCain/Palin=losers now and on Nov. 4th. Get used to Pres. Obama for 4 years and possibly for 8. Enjoy!

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/23/2008 8:37:01 AM

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27324419/

    AP poll: Candidates running nearly even 10/22/08

    Neck-and-neck results are a departure from many recent national polls
    WASHINGTON - The presidential race tightened after the final debate, with John McCain gaining among whites and people earning less than $50,000, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that shows McCain and Barack Obama essentially running even among likely voters in the election homestretch.

    The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as Republican-leaning voters drifted home to their party.

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