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  • Posted By: vblick @ 10/22/2008 10:50:52 PM

    Wow 6 genius = 0 new idea??? The solution is easy. Our Government needs to deal directly with the people. Cut out the stealing, lying no good middle men. Let all of these crooked companies go out of business.

    1. The US Government is probably the only BANK I would trust because they can print $ money $.
    2. The US Mortgage Company should have enough ballz to loan money to small American businesses and to people to refi homes and buy cars.
    3. Lower the Loan Shark Credit Cards % to a maximum of 10%. These thieves have escaped the public eye but they are a big part of the problem.
    4. The US Government needs to end wasting money abroad. No more $ money to foreign countries period!!! This isn???t the Imperial United States it???s the United States of America. $1 BILLION dollars to pay off Georgia for pickin a fight with Russia!!! And while you???re at it, get us out of NATIO. How many bases, in how many countries??? Sorry the gravy train needs to end.
    5. Wake up, the economy runs 24 hours a day globally and instantly through the internet. We don???t need bigger highway, more libraries, school books (it???s called a laptop). We don???t need the US Postal Service, who needs junk mail when we???ve got spam.
    6. Institute a 4 day work week to conserve gasoline, electricity and resources.
    7. Require all businesses to allow people to work at home if the same task can be done at home.
    8. Lower the Social Security age, give old people an incentive to retire early. Get them out of the work force and into spending their golden years spending.
    9. Also like it or not the US population needs to increase. Social Security and taxes are nothing more than a pyramid scheme so one way or the other the population needs to double. It would also help in buying up all those empty foreclosed homes in the neighborhood.

    Also:

    1. In February start prosecuting all of these golden parachute embezzlers (Bush won???t be able to pardon them then).
    2. End the Iraq Invasion; we won along time ago after we leveled their country. Lets end this $10 BILLION dollar a month cash COW is Cheney???s off-shore company Halliburton (Can anyone say war crimes, I know I would free a lot better knowing someone went to jail for robbing $1-3 TRILLION for this phony war).
    3. Don???t spend another dollar of the $700 BILLION bailout to these banking and Wall Street crooks. I still can???t believe the Democrats fell for that one. Of course they did they are nothing but sheep.

  • Posted By: vblick @ 10/22/2008 10:50:15 PM

    Wow 6 genius = 0 new idea??? The solution is easy. Our Government needs to deal directly with the people. Cut out the stealing, lying no good middle men. Let all of these crooked companies go out of business.

    1. The US Government is probably the only BANK I would trust because they can print $ money $.
    2. The US Mortgage Company should have enough ballz to loan money to small American businesses and to people to refi homes and buy cars.
    3. Lower the Loan Shark Credit Cards % to a maximum of 10%. These thieves have escaped the public eye but they are a big part of the problem.
    4. The US Government needs to end wasting money abroad. No more $ money to foreign countries period!!! This isn???t the Imperial United States it???s the United States of America. $1 BILLION dollars to pay off Georgia for pickin a fight with Russia!!! And while you???re at it, get us out of NATIO. How many bases, in how many countries??? Sorry the gravy train needs to end.
    5. Wake up, the economy runs 24 hours a day globally and instantly through the internet. We don???t need bigger highway, more libraries, school books (it???s called a laptop). We don???t need the US Postal Service, who needs junk mail when we???ve got spam.
    6. Institute a 4 day work week to conserve gasoline, electricity and resources.
    7. Require all businesses to allow people to work at home if the same task can be done at home.
    8. Lower the Social Security age, give old people an incentive to retire early. Get them out of the work force and into spending their golden years spending.
    9. Also like it or not the US population needs to increase. Social Security and taxes are nothing more than a pyramid scheme so one way or the other the population needs to double. It would also help in buying up all those empty foreclosed homes in the neighborhood.

    Also:

    1. In February start prosecuting all of these golden parachute embezzlers (Bush won???t be able to pardon them then).
    2. End the Iraq Invasion; we won along time ago after we leveled their country. Lets end this $10 BILLION dollar a month cash COW is Cheney???s off-shore company Halliburton (Can anyone say war crimes, I know I would free a lot better knowing someone went to jail for robbing $1-3 TRILLION for this phony war).
    3. Don???t spend another dollar of the $700 BILLION bailout to these banking and Wall Street crooks. I still can???t believe the Democrats fell for that one. Of course they did they are nothing but sheep.

  • Posted By: jjahns @ 10/22/2008 10:48:48 PM

    Bluestem,
    So, raise taxes and cut spending. That's how I'm understanding right? I don't see a prob with it only I would probably cut spending from programs that aren't working and unchange the ones that are. I disagree with you, however, on deflation. The depression was caused in part by a deflation of the currency. If that happens, people get paid less (market adjustments), and then they cannot pay their bills.

    I also think that public works should be exploited here. FDR utilized the works progress administration to create 3.3 million jobs, and those jobs helped revitalize our infrastructure. But I believe that trade with other countries will make the real profit that America desperately needs. We need to restructure our trade agreements so that we can make the goods that other countries demand and in return, America, as a country, draws in revenue. Right now, given the current trade agreement loopholes, we can have a business in America close up their assembly line warehouses to ship them to another country. They then sell the same product to Americans and export it to the US for free. I just don't think that's right and something should be changed.

    Trade is of course, dependent on our foreign relations, which continually degrade due to the war. We need to get out of Iraq. Its not like it won't destablize if we leave 3 years from now rather than 16 months. Iraq will destabilize no matter what we do, and no nation in the history of the world has ever occupied a foreign land while the homeland was suffering economically. Never mind the fact that no president in US history has ever cut taxes during a war.

  • Posted By: Obama-Rules @ 10/22/2008 10:04:07 PM

    Sure let's get McCain in the White House, He's the one that said we should just shut up about the high gas prices and suck it up and pay for it! Most people I know are doing good to own their house, how many houses does McCain own? Well you can't ask him because he can't keep up with all the ones he owns! And don't even get me started about Palin, what a real joke! So here's the best way I know to put it, if your RICH and want to get RICHER vote McCain, If your middle-class or lower vote Obama! Or last, if your happy with how Bush is running office then vote for McCain because he will be no different! Let's get this country back on it's feet and let Obama lead the way for us!

    • Posted By: marley07 @ 10/22/2008 10:47:59 PM

      Drinking the coolaid huh? Have anything to say for yourself or just going to repeat everything hussein has to say?

  • Posted By: Askari @ 10/22/2008 10:47:50 PM

    How sad is it that no less than "Nobel laureates" all failed to address one of the main issues that has caused this financial meltdown: Credit Default Swaps. Until there is honest discussion and REAL strategies (outlawing the credit derivatives market and instruments to start) being developed to address the "nothingness" our current economy is based upon, we will continue to dig a hole of debt that we will never be able to pay off.

    The creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and the abolition of the gold standard in 1971 essentially set the course of our country's financial destruction. Without the power to coin our own money, issue credit, and back up our cash (debt notes) with hard assets (gold standard), we are a joke to the global market economy.

  • Posted By: northcarolinaSTATE08 @ 10/22/2008 10:46:49 PM

    marley07 sure is a genuis! obviously it costs more in new york city to live. You can get buy tho in manhattan by making less than 250,000 dollars a year, I am a testament to that. I'm glad you believe all liberals are idiots and that all we do is just bitch and complain. Well if it wasn't for those liberals such as Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Thomas Paine, and others, we wouldn't have this country.

  • Posted By: sheebe @ 10/22/2008 9:32:39 PM

    why can't the Government make all banks lower their rates to 3%? Then set a flat tax or a Fair tax for us. Then make all insurance agencies give better percentage for ones to get insurance. Socialized Medicine is not the way to go. I work for a lot of Doctors. They said they will move out of the Country and practice somewhere else. The nurses say same thing. Most of them that is. There will be long lines to see a doctor, and the medicine will be cut down. Won't be effective. Also, my friends in Canada and the UK says it is not worth it. That is why people that can afford to. Come to our Country to get medical help. Also Insurance companies should be given a national guide line and rules so they cannot refuse to cover a certain procedure. I don't know, just saying ideas.

    • Posted By: lioness1 @ 10/22/2008 10:41:02 PM

      They said the same thing here in Canada but it didn't happen. Our medical system in Canada is so awesome, yes there is some bed waiting but I'm 59 and never ever had regulations. My health has always been taken care of and my sister just had a heart operation and has no worries of how it's going to be paid. We may pay extra and our lotteries help too but I'll always be happy with the way our health system is. As for Banks, our banks have dropped there rates twice this week and that's because they are regulated and we have a great banking system unlike most in the world

    • Posted By: marlifornia @ 10/22/2008 9:49:39 PM

      The government can!! The government has the power to do many things. Read the Constitution. LsPr makes some very good points about our problems. The current two party system in power is concerned
      with keeping things basically as they are. The traders on Wall Street are causing wild swings in the market, driving the average citizen into a panic to the point that we will continue to take what we get. We, the citizens of this country have the power to change things, do we have the courage to take action? oneforallmankind.org

      • Posted By: sheebe @ 10/22/2008 10:21:17 PM

        Posted By: marlifornia @ 10/22/2008 9:49:39 PM
        You are right. Thank you. We the people should pull together not fight over who will win. When one wins, then raise hell our selves. Congress won't. We need to get new people in there also.

  • Posted By: Bluestem @ 10/22/2008 10:35:41 PM

    I am not an economist, but my plan runs the exact opposite from the Nobel prize winners.
    First, no tax cuts for at least two years. We've already spent the money.
    Second: No new programs. There are loys of theings we could do, but we can't afford it right now.
    Third: Those bankers who allowed unwise loans--sorry, you are out of luck. The government is not here to subsidize your greed.
    Fourth: Those people who bought big homes they really couldn't afford, thereby inflating the housing market and the currency, you are out of luck too. A little de-flation will be good for our economy overall.
    Next, Social Security. We need to PAY BACK all of the money we have taken from the SS trust fund. I suggest 5% per year. from the general treasury. To pay for it we will have to cut 5% from all programs except national defense.
    Health Care:Despite its detractors, we have the best health care system in the world. We could simplify the paperwork, cap drug mfgrs profits but a massive government program for health care would lead to Canadian style rationing, where sick people die before they are able to see a doctor.
    The ecomomists who say we should make business loans available as we did home ownership loans ala Freddy and Fannie--yes, one of them in the article actually said that--they obviously are living in a different world than the rest of us.
    The time for more spending is over. It's time for change, alright, but not merely a change of president.

  • Posted By: misho @ 10/22/2008 10:11:43 PM

    start guiving money direct to the 300000000 citizens is cheaper and moore effective.send a check of one millon dollars to every one and we will see the ricovery is going to be very fast and cheeper of what they are doing right now. the consume is going to start faster, people will start pay mortgage,buy new cars, try to start new bussines etc. banks and the government they are going to have the money back.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 10/22/2008 10:33:20 PM

      I heard someone with a stake in the financial mess say we are in debt, in reality, something like $500,000-per-household (or was it per person?) and that if we had to pay taxes to make up for this deficit (which is something like $55 Trillion), that would be the total amount everyone in this country would owe.

      I wish we could all receive $1 million in stimulus, but that won't happen. We already are in debt for the two wars, the tax cuts Bush gave us, plus all the shenanigans brought on by deregulation and quasi-Milton Friedman-esque economic thought. If McCain is elected, he will put Phil Gramm in charge. That would be the kiss of death to American economic strength or any chance of it. I would cry. Literally.

  • Posted By: awalsh8174 @ 10/22/2008 10:17:40 PM

    The single best thing we can do for ourselves is to get rid of the Fed. it's a private banking organization owned and run by other private bankers for the good of bankers and at the expense of the nation. We need to transfer the control of our monetary policy to a properly accountable government function that works for the benefit of the nation as a whole.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 10/22/2008 10:25:38 PM

      Great idea!

  • Posted By: pattycake-3 @ 10/22/2008 10:22:28 PM

    sounds like the plan Obama has been talking about for months, I guess he on the right track and will probally get his chance to see if it really works.

  • Posted By: shelbismom @ 10/22/2008 10:11:20 PM

    I'll agree that we need to be teaching financial responsibility at the earliest age possible. Teenagers today have absolutely no clue what things cost, what they are NOT entitled to, how to balance a checkbook because their money is plastic. Schools need to do a much better job. However, poor education is not the only reason poor people remain poor. It's societal, environmental, if you will. They've never learned or been supported to be more than they are, and while they want more than they have, the living beyond their means part would consist of buying extra groceries or some clothes at Wal-Mart, not a new Saab or a vacation to Maui. I know plenty of people in the $100,000 plus per year bracket that spend their money completely inappropriately and disproportionately and feel they're completely entitled to do so. Don't snub your nose at the lower class until you've walked in their shoes for a while.

    • Posted By: brad9001 @ 10/22/2008 10:21:08 PM

      I've been on both sides of it. I built and ran a business that made me more than $300,000/year, then scratched and battled to keep it afloat during this crap economy only to lose it and my house and all my savings. I was unemployed for five months before getting a job paying $39,000/year to support my wife and three kids. I haven't just walked in their shoes, I'm currently living in them. The wealthy have the benefit of not having to be perfect with their money if they have the power to earn beyond what they spend. The poor do not. And many of the poor pay for food and gas with their credit cards only after they've spent their paychecks on the cable bill and the cell phone bill and fast food four times a week. I'm not snubbing my nose at the lower class, I'm just stating that they don't know how to manage their money, and that's an incontrovertible fact.

  • Posted By: B Franklin @ 10/22/2008 9:27:25 PM

    Everybody wants a free lunch, but who is buying? Who is paying and how? IOU, credit or cash? Fed or Treasury? Bonds or bills? The rule on holes is to stop digging deeper!

    • Posted By: marlifornia @ 10/22/2008 10:19:26 PM

      We need to tunnel our way out!!

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  • Posted By: awalsh8174 @ 10/22/2008 10:19:12 PM

    The single best thing we can do for ourselves is to get rid of the Fed. it's a private banking organization owned and run by other private bankers for the good of bankers and at the expense of the nation. We need to transfer the control of our monetary policy to a properly accountable government function that works for the benefit of the nation as a whole.

  • Posted By: lioness1 @ 10/22/2008 10:09:50 PM

    If socialism is helping people with medical and jobs then what the heck is wrong with that. Freedom means being able to have health and wealth. The head of a state is the same as a father or mother and they help when the need is there so why the big fuss over government helping.

  • Posted By: brad9001 @ 10/22/2008 10:03:14 PM

    All Iknow is that the answer isn't income redistribution. Poor people aren't poor because 'the man' controls his money, nor are they poor because they aren't able to earn money. They are poor because they are unable to manage the money they have and consistently live beyond their means. Money ignorance is the reason they have so little. Education is the counterbalance to ignorance. Real principles of money need to be taught in school. Not how to balance a check book but how the stock market works and derivatives and fluctuating rates of exchange. Income redistribution is a civil and a moral crime.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 10/22/2008 10:09:19 PM

      "Income redistribution" has been exactly what our tax system has been doing for Americans since it was initiated at the early part of the 20th C, I believe. Taxation is "income redistribution" - it takes your money, pools it, and redistributes it according to the laws and rulings and initiatives devised by our elected officials in Congress.

      Are you against being taxed at all? So am I - because we get very little direct benefit in our own lives tor our tax dollars.

      Now, if we had a national healthcare system that worked, and a great higher education benefit for our tax dollars, that would be a direct benefit that would impact many of our personal lives.

      Since when has "spreading wealth" been a bad thing? Since the Republicans duped and hoodwinked all the "patriots" into agreeing to see things entirely their way, at the expense of the lesser-compensated majority. Nothing wrong with being rich, but just be generous and munificent, and pay your taxes while you're at it.

      No more dummies in the White House. They've totally destroyed our strength; electing mediocrity is our biggest threat to national security.

  • Posted By: expatincebu @ 10/22/2008 6:05:49 PM

    All a bunch of crap. The corporate media was very careful who they picked for this article, all status quo lackeys. Notice not one mentions the REAL SOLUTIONS, eliminating the unconstitutional Federal Reserve and returning to a gold standard. Credit and debt are NOT the foundations of a solid economy. Like a house built on the beach, the view is great until the foundation washes away.

    • Posted By: Old Joe @ 10/22/2008 8:30:41 PM

      Gold Standard! Yeah, right. There's not enough gold in the entire world to begin to touch what would be needed to maintain our current world economy.

      Your head is in that sand you mentioned, or maybe even someplace else.

      • Posted By: brylski0 @ 10/22/2008 10:06:13 PM

        Right on Old Joe. ... except that the value of gold would increase as more currency was issued. Personally I would have liked that.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 10/22/2008 8:11:35 PM

      Yeah, expatincebu, they just had some of those in Galveston. They'll know what you mean. That is, if their computer didn't wash away and they weren't able to see this blog.

  • Posted By: brad9001 @ 10/22/2008 10:00:54 PM

    All Iknow is that the answer isn't income redistribution. Poor people aren't poor because 'the man' controls his money, nor are they poor because they aren't able to earn money. They are poor because they are unable to manage the money they have and consistently live beyond their means. Money ignorance is the reason they have so little. Education is the counterbalance to ignorance. Real principles of money need to be taught in school. Not how to balance a check book but how the stock market works and derivatives and fluctuating rates of exchange. Income redistribution is a civil and a moral crime.

  • Posted By: misho @ 10/22/2008 9:59:58 PM

    start guiving money direct to the 300000000 citizens is cheaper and moore effective.send a check of one millon dollars to every one and we will see the ricovery is going to be very fast and cheeper of what they are doing right now. the consume is going to start faster, people will start pay mortgage,buy new cars, try to start new bussines etc. banks and the government they are going to have the money back.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 10/22/2008 9:58:09 PM

    On an un-economic note, I say we need less emphasis on matieral wealth and more emphasis on intellectual and career-minded "wealth" and that should be an example and a top-of-mind theme in our next Administration. Obviously, I'm banking on Obama to win because the other team has degenerated into a goofy sideshow.

    All of these economists make good points. Some I lean toward more than others, but somethings I know way too little about to form any sort of opinion. But here's one of my favorite quotes from the article, by the last economis, Phelps: "I would advise the next president to press Congress to legislate that the proposed base pay of CEOs be submitted to a shareholder vote and that bonuses be geared to long-term performance."

    I'd go a bit further and ask for a CEO-salary ceiling of sorts to be spelled out for each industry, based on norms or traditions that companies in other countries see as fair. For example, in Japan, I understand CEO salaries are capped at a certain multiple of the rate of the pay of the lowest man on the corporate totem pole, or something like that. Maybe we take a look at how each industry seems to be performing, and how much innovation plays a role in the development of new products/goods/services - and then devise a scheme that allows for some flexibility in CEO compensation based on his/her performance along the "innovation metric" for example.

    In the car industry, we are lagging seriously behind other car companies in other countries; our CEOs in this industry are paid ridiculous amounts for basically being reactionary, anti-competitive, anti-innovative, and solely focused on turning a short-term profit -- which is why they've ended up as stupid looking as they are today, holding a bag of dwindling value and losing the race to invent great, innovative and viable cars.

    Our oil business should have CEO incentives that encourage them to reach "beyong petroleum" and truly find ways, like T. Boone Pickens, to invest significantly into developing innovative and alternative energy resources. They will all go out of business as their core competency - the exploration and prodcution of petroleum and nat gas - becomes less and less an imperative (as petroleum and nat gas supplies peak out and become more and more economically challenging to remain competitive)...

    It will be interesting to see which economic advisors an Obama Administration might employ.

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