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The Rifle Association's 'True Story'

A misleading NRA ad claims Obama voted "to deny citizens the right of self-protection."

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  • Posted By: Krohn @ 11/02/2008 11:23:18 PM

    The Wall Street crisis was planned the night of Obama's meeting at Bill Ayres home to put Obama in The White House. Together they put a beautiful plan into place.

    This Strategy was first elucidated in the 1966 issue of 'The Nation' Magazine by a pair of radical Socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven.

    David Horowitz summarizes it as:

    "The strategy of forcing political change through an orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of Capitalism by overloading the Government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
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    Obama begin with ACORN by funneling millions into their organization. He then trained ACORN to stage protests in banks to force them to issue risky loans or they would be threatened to face racial charges. ACORN was trained to intimidate financial institutions into giving ???Ninja??? loans to people with NO assets, NO job and NO income, who couldn???t afford these loans.

    That caused the housing bubble two years ago it was by ACORN's actions they were able to destroy our credit system.

    As this played out, D-Barney Frank and D-Chris Dodd were able to cover up the millions of improvident loans to these bad risky house buyers. And Barney Frank and his chums successfully were able to block all of President Bush's attempts to put a rein on this problem.

    So Fannie & Freddie was forced to purchase all these failed subprime mortgages.

    Then both Frank and Dodd denied that there were any problems, and refused the Bush Admin. requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and they were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the 'minute they failed'.

    Democrats then blamed Bush saying it happened on his watch knowing it would hurt the Republican Party in the election setting it up that Barack Obama could use this to his advantage.

    Karl Marx once compared a Revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

    Barack Obama is that Marxist mole !

    • Posted By: FreeDem @ 12/21/2008 10:07:41 AM

      Krohn - Every assertion is as fact free crazy as the NRA ad, and some a lot more so. One would think you were an Antisocialist Gang Of Pirates mole! Oh except that your fakery is pretty muck transparent so make that troll.

  • Posted By: eddyward @ 12/21/2008 9:25:12 AM

    Its apperant that factcheck only singled out the commercial,and not real life events. Its a fact guns in the hands of homeowners save lives every day and this evidence comes from the Justice Dept. Read and understand the Second Amendment.

  • Posted By: robocoastie @ 12/20/2008 1:58:58 PM

    Wrong. The situation became violent when the home was intruded! Their is a historical precedent for assuming harm when a home is invaded. He who waits for the criminal to make the first move is dead. To protect yourself and your loved ones you have to assume intent to harm by the perp once they invade the property. Get your facts straight instead of twisting them Newsweek.

  • Posted By: TheNonconsumptionalist @ 12/20/2008 4:03:20 AM

    Also its pretty transparent in this election and the last that Demicrats knew Americans overwelmingly support the Second Ammendment and gritted thier teeth forcing a Pro-gun semblance by saying something like "Sure I support the 2nd Ammendment I Believe everyone has a right to hunt squirrels etc." What this really means is "I truely believe that the second ammendment is the ONLY ONE out of TEN that does not SPECIFICALLY refer to an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT because I am blind with contempt for any power that is not government centralised, as I fear if my narrow views were realised by political action, an armed population would forcibly revolt" As I recal Obama was LEFT of Hillary Clinton on the "Issue"

  • Posted By: TheNonconsumptionalist @ 12/20/2008 3:53:25 AM

    Well the N.R.A. isnt completly an innocent institution but, the Anti-Gun crowd has proliferated the most skewed facts in thier Zeil to eliminate American Firearm ownership. I recall roughly 80% of women Ive dated believed having a firearm made them more likely to be raped and killed. If that were true we shouldnt issue them to officers, I find the thaught of our nations poliece officers being raped and killed verry disturbing.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/02/2008 6:02:37 PM

    Obama's Links To Radicals Starting To Surface!! www.newsmax.com/timmer

    Obama-Farrakhan Ties Are Close, Ex-Farrakhan Aide Says

    A former top deputy to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan tells Newsmax that Barack Obama???s ties to the black nationalist movement in Chicago run deep, and that for many years the two men have had ???an open line between them??? to discuss policy and strategy, either directly or through intermediaries.

    ???Remember that for years, if you were a politician in Chicago, you had to have some type of relationship with Louis Farrakhan. You had to. If you didn???t, you would be ostracized out of black Chicago,??? said Dr. Vibert White Jr., who spent most of his adult life as a member and ultimately top officer of the Nation of Islam.
    White broke with the group in 1995 and is now a professor of African-American history at the University of Central Florida in Orlando.
    White said Obama was ???part of the Chicago scene??? where Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. and radicals would go to each other???s events and support each other???s causes.
    ???Even though Chicago is the third-largest city in the country, within the black community, the political and militant nationalist community is very small. So it wouldn???t be uncommon for [Obama and Farrakhan] to show up at events together, or at least be there and communicate with each other,??? White told Newsmax.
    The Anti-Defamation League has denounced Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam as a ???hate group.???
    Farrakhan has called Jews ???bloodsuckers,??? ???satanic??? and accused them of running the slave trade. He has labeled gays as ???degenerates.??? In a 2006 speech, the ADL again condemned Farrakhan when he said: ???These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength. ??? It's the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality. It's wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!"

  • Posted By: ecar @ 10/28/2008 1:09:34 PM

    good one NRA...promoting stupidity ALL THE TIME. Allowing an 8yr old to fire a frkn UZI. Even your "trained" monkeys on the range are tards!!! Anyone with a 9yr old iq could tell you that a fully auto submachine gun could be quite harmful. The right thing to do here is convict ALL in the presence of this complete lack of moral judgement and hand down MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES!!!!

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/28/2008 10:44:24 AM

    My husband, a long time NRA member, has quit the organization. He says this year they went too far and no longer have his money or his support.

    I was shocked. I've hated them for years and he always defended them and what they stand for. Not any more. Divide the country and pay the price.

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/28/2008 10:40:12 AM

    My husband, a long time NRA member, has quit the organization. He says this year they went too far and no longer have his money or his support.

    I was shocked. I've hated them for years and he always defended them and what they stand for. Not any more. Divide the country and pay the price.

  • Posted By: bcrawf2033 @ 10/26/2008 9:49:49 AM

    I'm appalled by the lies and half-truths being spread by the NRA and the Christian Right. I absolutely believe in the right of an American to bear arms for self-protection, but there's a difference in how a weapon is used and where you live. Hunting is one thing, keeping kids from killing each other and drive-by shootings is quite another. The NRA needs to see things from more than one perspective. George Bush has been the worst disaster to ever hit this Nation and the Republican party. We are in economic ruin on their watch. That's the only real problem we need to focus on at present. And the hateful rhetoric coming from the Christian right, that's not Christianity nor is it Christlike. The world as we knew it has already changed because of the global economic crisis and we all have to deal with it together as a Nation. I'm against any organization who divides and hurts our Nation for a particular cause. We have a host of problems we must solve and it's going to take all of us for the greater good. The US is not some isolated entity on the planet. We have to learn how to negotiate better relationships with other people in the world. As a Nation, if we are going to lead then we need to provide good leadership, or bow out. Obama/Biden 08

  • Posted By: Express-talk @ 10/26/2008 7:47:55 AM

    A COMPLETE McCAIN´S AND REPUBLICAN SHAMELESS LIES AND PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN !! THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET REWARDED FOR BRINGING DOWN AMERICA IN THE PAST 8 YEARS !!

  • Posted By: moderatevoice @ 10/25/2008 10:04:38 PM

    Continuing spreading lies, hatred and propaganda, those "pro-gun" supporters, or I should say anti-Obama militants are just like McCain campaign, throwing desperate measures in the battle like a teenager is shooting randomly in a University campus. Happily, they are like these latter, extremely rare! The day the right to hold a gun will be given and defended by mentally sane people, America will do a big step further.

    • Posted By: DSVet @ 10/26/2008 4:42:56 AM

      do the research before shooting your mouth off and stop listening to the biased, celebrity worshipping mainstream media.

  • Posted By: aLjeffries @ 10/26/2008 2:12:24 AM

    Another example of Obama being on the wrong side of the issue.

  • Posted By: trjones8867 @ 10/23/2008 9:57:13 PM

    I don't know...maybe I am dumb..but I read and reread the NRA story and I don't see where it states anywhere that Obama wanted to "throw the book" at someone with a gun...that was protecting his/her family...I read where there was a BAN and if someone had a gun it broke the law therefore there was a fine...Obama voted to uphold the fine....are you people serious????? You are telling me that you would sacrifice our country and take a serious chance of putting Palin in office...who..yes could sit down and have a conversation with me but doesn't have the intelligence to speak with the rulers of other countries, we are losing our homes, our jobs, our savings, our loved ones in Iraq and you are worried because he voted to uphold a fine on a ban??? You all need to get a clue and see what is really important...God help us all....

    • Posted By: freedomrocks @ 10/25/2008 6:20:01 PM

      Reading and rereading-that is what is wrong with our country! It seems like we just want to be spoonfed information in these articles and not have to think about it. It would be great if everything we read was true and unbiased. We need to be able to read and understand when we need more information and be smart enought to realize when we are being fed a line of bull. Mainstream media is biased-do your homework. Think for yourselves!!

  • Posted By: lauriesarno @ 10/24/2008 1:09:21 AM

    aren't there bigger issues to talk about at this point than guns!!

    • Posted By: freedomrocks @ 10/25/2008 6:12:07 PM

      It is a bigger issue than you think. If you don't want to have a gun, fine. Don't dilute the issue for those who believe it is very important.

  • Posted By: psychdoc @ 10/24/2008 8:25:09 AM

    Facts:
    1.Man knew someone broke in his house and stole keys
    2. He did not bother to change locks
    3. He did not call the police when robber broke in, did not tell robber to "stop" but just shot him. 3 times as robber was RUNNING away.
    4. The handgun with which he shot the robber was ILLEGAL.
    5. Obama voted against a ban that would have allowed the man with an ILLEGAL handgun NOT to pay a fine.
    6. People need to learn how to read and be informed.
    Geez.

    • Posted By: freedomrocks @ 10/25/2008 6:05:34 PM

      Guess what, that man and his family are unharmed. It would not be unusual to not be able to have your locks changed in one day. The intruder did not belong in the home, end of story. I understand that you can read. It is important to actually understand what you read.

  • Posted By: nogop @ 10/23/2008 1:18:21 PM

    There is no doubt in my mind that these wackos and self-centered demagogues in NRA will do about anything to get another BUSH-like in the White House inorder to satisfy selfish interests. However, this time around they will fall face first on their own vomit and faeces!!! America and the World must embrace and inevitable generational change!!!!!

    • Posted By: schlitzsky @ 10/25/2008 5:38:39 PM

      Ummm.... Did you ever think he got the Phd in Constitutional law so that he can find ways to undermine it? You are an idiot to trust Obama as he has been caught in numerous lies and associates with domestic terrorists and immoral organzations. Just because Ayers wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't admit to his crimes. He got off on a screwup of the prosecutors and couldn't be tried again due the double jeoperdy clause in our laws. On 9\11 he stated he didn't blow up enough buildings or kill enough cops. As I said before you are an idiot if you support Barack Hussein Obama.

  • Posted By: bigtee4 @ 10/23/2008 1:05:33 PM

    The actual 2003 burglary didn't involve a woman, and it didn't become violent until the male homeowner went downstairs and started firing before calling police
    This is insane. What difference is ther if it was a man or woman. The burglary became violent as soon as the unwelcome intruder entered the house. You have a right to defend your person and home. He did not need to call the police first. He was in his right to defend his family and home. You media type need to stop defending the real criminal.
    The ad seems correct. If I will be fined for having a gun in my house to use for protection, then I am being considered a criminal. UNACCEPTABLE!!

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 10/23/2008 1:39:05 PM

      yeah except most gun deaths are accidental, hope you don't have kids or they better be bullet proof

      • Posted By: schlitzsky @ 10/25/2008 5:38:06 PM

        Ummm.... Did you ever think he got the Phd in Constitutional law so that he can find ways to undermine it? You are an idiot to trust Obama as he has been caught in numerous lies and associates with domestic terrorists and immoral organzations. Just because Ayers wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't admit to his crimes. He got off on a screwup of the prosecutors and couldn't be tried again due the double jeoperdy clause in our laws. On 9\11 he stated he didn't blow up enough buildings or kill enough cops. As I said before you are an idiot if you support Barack Hussein Obama.

      • Posted By: arowla @ 10/23/2008 2:01:43 PM

        REALLY??? You're honestly saying that most gun deaths are caused by people accidentally shooting THEMSELVES, rather than shooting someone else on purpose? Sounds like someone needs to watch their local news channel every once in a while and get informed!

  • Posted By: WidernessVoice @ 10/23/2008 12:59:44 PM

    NRA wackos at their usual worst! Too bad. Most true Americans, like Obama, support a common sense approach to guns. THe NRA promotes the absolutely most extreme positions and nonsense possible ("if you regulate cop-killer bullets, next thing you know we won't have any guns".) Why do we regulate bazookas and SAM's?? These guys are desperate to keep a Republican in the White House, and will say anything. Disgusting!

    • Posted By: schlitzsky @ 10/25/2008 5:37:10 PM

      Ummm.... Did you ever think he got the Phd in Constitutional law so that he can find ways to undermine it? You are an idiot to trust Obama as he has been caught in numerous lies and associates with domestic terrorists and immoral organzations. Just because Ayers wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't admit to his crimes. He got off on a screwup of the prosecutors and couldn't be tried again due the double jeoperdy clause in our laws. On 9\11 he stated he didn't blow up enough buildings or kill enough cops. As I said before you are an idiot if you support Barack Hussein Obama.

    • Posted By: rje49 @ 10/23/2008 1:41:38 PM

      May a stranger break into your house while you're asleep some night! And maybe your local laws will make it illegal for you to own a fireaem for self defense. Hey, when Lord Obama, His Highness, is sworn in as President and swears to uphold the Constitution, will that include the second ammendment? Obama the lawyer should know....

  • Posted By: shockme @ 10/23/2008 12:50:17 PM

    It is nice to see the intelligence level reflected by the NRA in this story and some of the comments. Gun control HAS to be our biggest issue in this country. It tops all the troops dying in Iraq. All the troops dying in Afghanistan. Gosh, it even tops all the economic problems we are facing.

    • Posted By: schlitzsky @ 10/25/2008 5:35:55 PM

      Ummm.... Did you ever think he got the Phd in Constitutional law so that he can find ways to undermine it? You are an idiot to trust Obama as he has been caught in numerous lies and associates with domestic terrorists and immoral organzations. Just because Ayers wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't admit to his crimes. He got off on a screwup of the prosecutors and couldn't be tried again due the double jeoperdy clause in our laws. On 9\11 he stated he didn't blow up enough buildings or kill enough cops. As I said before you are an idiot if you support Barack Hussein Obama.

    • Posted By: brian.shapiro @ 10/23/2008 1:19:05 PM

      shockme, I'm sure people who live in high crime areas would disagree with you that deaths in Iraq are more pressing than deaths in their neighborhood.

      • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 10/23/2008 1:40:22 PM

        sarcasim doesn't carry over the internet

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