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  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 10/25/2008 12:55:07 PM

    Utterly disgusting. If there is any respectable person left on the McCain campaign, I do not understand how they can make it through the next 11 days. Charles Fried of Harvard Law School apparently couldn't stand anymore, resigned from the campaign's advisory panels and voted for Obama .

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 4:22:01 PM

    Come on, get real. This guy Obama, is a Marxist Socialist, groomed by leftist radicals in Chicago, to take this country down the road they have been advocating for years. He was tested and vetted in his role as a ???Community Organizer in the eighties, was found to be a gifted, charismatic and intelligent person. From that point on he has been nurtured, educated and groomed, to be the person we see before us today. His agenda is the same as Wrights, Ayers and Farrakhan. His political rhetoric is a smoke screen, to cover the true mission.
    I implore all Americans, of any race, of any color or creed, to look deeper into who this person is.

    • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/25/2008 10:32:28 AM

      Well, I've been waiting for eight years to say this: "IF you don't like it, you can get OUT".

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 4:26:22 PM

    Obama is no patriot. He's not even un-American. He's anti-American.
    The Black Liberation Theology he has subscribed to for over twenty years, bids the destruction of virtually every American Ideal that is responsible for making this country the greatest force for good, the world has ever known. It is his allegiance to this theology, that prevented him from wearing a flag pin, saluting the flag, and caused him to turn his back on the flag, when the National Anthem was played. He's a traitor.

    • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/25/2008 10:31:35 AM

      Wow. How is it that this is going on and you're the only one that sees it? Must be scary for you.

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:27:47 PM

      Obama is a "decent family man, citizen.................
      "He is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States.......

      Those are John McCain own words.....................

      If he said Obama is decent and nothing to be scared and now he says differently HE LIED TO YOU THEN OR HE IS LYING NOW.....

      If he can tell you something one day and another opposite the other day, how could you trust his word? How do you know he is not coming with another story if elected? He has not kept his word more than 3 days in a row..........

      What is he hiding, why is he lyig to you?

      How different is he lying than Bush?

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 4:57:34 PM

      Spam, spam, spam.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/24/2008 4:49:41 PM

      Take the pills.

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 4:47:12 PM

    Take a moment, Google this name, Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tario Al-Mansour. Check out the connections. This is beyond belief. Truly fascinating.

    Obama was selected, nourished and groomed by the extreme left wing radicals in Chicago; Ayers, Farrakhan, Jackson, Flager, and the not so reverend Wright, and a host of others. To these people, he is the prince and is now fulfilling their dreams. His action and attitudes, exemplifies this. My reference to Obama as the little prince, was a play on the title The Prince. He in my mind is a ???little??? prince. He was selected, nourished and groomed by the extreme left wing radicals in Chicago. To these people, he is the prince and is now fulfilling their dreams. His action and attitudes, exemplifies this.
    Check out this guy, Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tario Al-Mansour, He is responsible for funding Obama's Harvard years. Ask yourself, why? What association could there be?
    This may well be the " Smoking Gun" to establish this long term radical connection.

    • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/25/2008 10:29:58 AM

      Dang, you people will believe anything.

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:26:00 PM

      Obama is a "decent family man, citizen.................
      "He is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States.......

      Those are John McCain own words.....................

      If he said Obama is decent and nothing to be scared and now he says differently HE LIED TO YOU THEN OR HE IS LYING NOW.....

      If he can tell you something one day and another opposite the other day, how could you trust his word? How do you know he is not coming with another story if elected? He has not kept his word more than 3 days in a row..........

      What is he hiding, why is he lyig to you?

      How different is he lying than Bush?

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/24/2008 4:48:40 PM

      It started with the GOP saying we'll say: Grandma was thrown under a bus. Next day the blog supporters rant and rave about it. Same thing with Pastors. Then Flagpins, then Michelle Obama, then Ayers, Rezko, birth certificates - and none of it pans out. Nothing. Nada. So, the plan of attack was to keep saying it so some would think it panned out anyway. The call was: The media doesn't cover Obama's shortcomings, they are biased. Even though the media used 10 different angles for every accusation. The next day the GOP say those who follow Obama are "brain-washed". Next day same thing. "You're all brainwashed." Then they walk the discrimination ploy with: "He's not one of us." "He does not think like we do." "He pals around with terrorist. He's scary." " We'll call the liberals racists (even though Liberal talk tolerance) for calling us racists." Ta-DAAA. They put him on food stamps. All of it failed so they sunk to McCarthyism and rolled out the "socialist card" and all the bloggers now say he's a socialist - even though socialist really don't support Obama - and can't. Today Ms. Todd used the old 1980's 1990's stand-by, and was caught lying.

      How do you think the latest is going to affect the McCain ticket? I'd call the GOP desperate, but they'd turn it around and call the Dems that.

  • Posted By: saynotobo @ 10/24/2008 5:01:32 PM

    Can you write a more slanted article? Complement oboma's bin lying and slam McCain. The truth is, if obama is elected, The whole world will be in a recession for years. Oboma lies and says that he will raise taxes on 5% of Americans, but in reality it is more than half of Americans and 40% of the remaining Americans don't pay taxes. What happens when you raise taxes on business? They raise their prices or lay people off. Who pays for the increased prices? Everyone. And, the poor people pay more than rich, because poor people spend a higher percentage of their income. THINK ABOUT IT. Corporate tax is REGRESIVE!!!

    • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/25/2008 10:28:30 AM

      Oh yes, by all means vote for the GOP. They've done such a good job with our country's economy and reputation the last eight years. They are no longer the party of fiscal responsibility or family values. A loss is just what's needed here. Perhaps then the party can shake off the neocons that have taken it over and become the party they once were.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 5:05:26 PM

      "The truth is, if obama is elected, The whole world will be in a recession for years. "

      Also, Godzilla will awaken and wreak havoc on Wasilla, Alaska! Dogs will sleep with cats! Chaos in the streets! STOP THE MADNESS!

      LOL. Stop trying your tired scare tactics. They haven't worked since 2004.

  • Posted By: USAGal @ 10/25/2008 10:15:49 AM

    So ... how did that work out for Pessident Goldwater :) ???

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/25/2008 9:21:36 AM

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080915/scheer

    Sarah Palin believes in [Redistribution Of Wealth] as noted in her Alaskan Windfall Profit Tax, to the Families of Alaska...

    Palin is Fraud, Hypocrite and Contradiction, to those that Blindly Follow her rhetoric without Researching this Alaskan Witch !!


    Note: Welcome to the People's Republic of Alaska, where every resident this year will get a $3,200 payout, thanks in no small measure to the efforts of Sarah Palin, the state's Republican governor. That's $22,400 for a family of seven, like Palin's. Since 1982, the Alaska Permanent Fund, which invests oil revenues from state lands, has paid out a dividend on invested oil loot to everyone who has been in the state for a year.

    But Palin upped the ante by joining with Democrats and some recalcitrant Republican state legislators to share in oil company windfall profits, further fattening state tax revenue and permitting an additional payout in tax funds to residents.

    Big Note: No wonder she is popular with voters in a state whose residents pay no income or sales taxes but are blessed with state coffers rolling in cash at a time when all other states are suffering. Indeed, when the oil companies pay more taxes to the state of Alaska, they get to write that off against their federal tax obligation, leaving the rest of us to make up the shortfall.

    The state of Alaska owns most of the oil-producing land and was getting upward of 85 percent of its budget from the oil companies that lease the fields, even before Palin helped increase the state's cut. While other states fire schoolteachers because of the economic downturn, Alaska has, as Palin indicated in accepting John McCain's offer to join him on the GOP ticket, more money than it knows what to do with. In a display of plucky arrogance at her coming-out press conference, Palin boasted deceptively that if Alaskans wanted that infamous bridge to nowhere, "we'd build it ourselves."

    She originally had supported having US taxpayers finance that boondoggle, before McCain and others in Congress blasted it.

    Not that I blame Palin for wrangling for her state a bigger cut of oil company windfall profits; it's just not an option that will work wonders for states without oil. Of course we can remedy that by having a federal windfall profits tax of the sort that Barack Obama dared propose, and which McCain and his fellow congressional Republicans have managed to quash. Their argument, rejected quite pointedly by Palin for Alaska, is that it would discourage oil companies from investing in boosting oil field yields.


    In 2000 Mccain Believed in Socialism also ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/25/2008 9:19:50 AM

    Todd & Sarah Palin's Hatefilled, Secessionist Party, The 3rd largest Political Party in alaska, Todd Palin was a Member for 7 Years and is Not a registered Republican. Demand that Sarah & Todd Palin Renounce and Denounce the Anti-American-Secessionist beliefs and teachings ...

    Newsweek Magazine ...Please, I'm Begging You NewsWeek, Put sarah and Todd Palin to task for their Anti-American Connections.

    AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American," reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP's current website, "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." According to Vogler AIP's central purpose was to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, "should be an independent nation."

    Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.

    Palin's husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002.

    Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a "fellow traveler."

    While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska.

    The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP's 2000 Convention.

    She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP's 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention.

    In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!

    So when Palin accuses Barack of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/25/2008 9:19:01 AM

    http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/the_mccain_tax_increasescontin.html

    McCain Top Economic Adviser: [McCain Will Raise Taxes] ...Fact !!!

    "Whether you're a Republican, Democrat President or a Martian, Taxes will be Raised"

    Though Mccain has said Throughout his campaign

    "I will Not, Raise Your Taxes"

    His Top Economic Adviser says that a LIE....

    Obama will Raise Taxes on those that make More than 250,000...

    The 250,000 per year and Under, will have a Tax Break and Tax Cut.

    ------------------------------------------

    Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former Director of the Congressional Budget Office and current chief McCain economic advisor, is an honest man--which means he's something of a liability on the Straight Talk Express. A few months ago, he admitted to my colleague, Michael Scherer, that Barack Obama's economic plan would reduce taxes for most people.

    And now, in a forthcoming book by Fortune columnist Matt Miller, he makes it clear that the next President is going to have to raise taxes.

    "If you do nothing on the spending side, you're going to have to RAISE TAXES whether you're a Republican, a Democrat or a Martian," he tells Miller...and then he immediately makes it clear that the "spending side" part of the argument is nothing more than a ...............

    "POLITICAL FIG LEAF".

    --------------------------------------------------------

    YOU REPUBLICANS ARE SUCH GULLIBLE FOOLS...MCCAIN WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES...PERIOD

    TAXES WILL BE RAISED...PERIOD...

    INFLATION, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, OVER POPULATION, LEADS TO MORE [TAXATION] !!!

    DAMN !!!

  • Posted By: KnightHawk @ 10/25/2008 8:06:20 AM

    want to drop this off in hopes that any reader will understand: Has a Democratic administration ever fired or caused workers to be fired while they were striking for better wages, benefits, etc;? The answer is no; but the Republicans have. Has there ever been shortages of commodities such as fuel for your automoblies, milk for your children, a soaring deficit, etc.; under a Democratic administration? Again, the answer is no!

    The entire Republican Party, the GOP, has had eight years to help "Joe the Plumber" but have waited until now to raise the issue of wanting to assist the blue-collar-worker. I'm sorry, that is simply not the history of the GOP. What Republicans want is an America in which the average working Joe or Jane, is on their knees, willing to take any job offered to them at any pay rate. No disrespect to my Latino sisters and brothers, but why do you think they are suddenly so welcome in America? Because they are willing to work cheap without long term benefits. I don't blame them; they need jobs, but, the so-called small business owner will not reap nearly the benefit of their labor as will those company's and conglomerates who will give them work and pay them nothing because there is no union in place to make sure they receive fair wages and fair treatment.

    The Republicans want to control the wealth because they want to keep most of it for themselves. They love the two class system where one is either very wealthy or very poor. The more desperate you are, the more willing you are to take a minimum-wage job to support your family which generally means you will need two or more jobs to replace the one that once paid $15 an hour. Who are they to decry that those who want some for all, are socialist? Why shouldn't the wealthy pay more taxes; they have more money with which to pay their taxes which was made on the bowed backs of the impoverished who provide them with cheap labor.

    So, they want to win in all categories, basically. We will work you to death and you can also pay all the taxes. If a company makes more than $250,000 profit each YEAR, that is not my idea of a "small business" because the "average" American doesn't make anywhere near that! The average blue-collar-worker makes earnings in the $40,000 - $120,000 earned income bracket. The Obama plegde is to NOT tax those in that bracket.
    Joe the Plumber ismore than safe and will pay NO greater taxes than before. McCain lies about this because he wants Americans to be so stupid as to not be able to know what bracket their in. "Obama will raise taxes."
    Yes, he will; on those who can afford to pay nore because they earn more. Hyperbole, is often used by those who wish to encite fear and rage over things they do not fully understand. So, get out your calculators, figure your income bracket, decide whose policies will best benefit your needs and future hopes and then; GO VOTE!


  • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:05:34 PM

    Sarah Palin and Wasilla Sports Complex land deal
    by xgz
    Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 09:39:17 AM PDT
    Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002. Her record during that time can tell us a lot about her. The biggest deal during her tenure is perhaps the construction of the sports complex that was built on someone else's land. She had to raise sales taxes to pay for it. The whole episode of incompetence, arrogance, and lack of respect for the law is exactly the style of governance that we've seen from Bush and co in the past seven years.
    The $15 million multi-use indoor ice arena was supposed to be her legacy as the mayor. This was a very big deal for a city that had a budget of $3.9 million in 96 (increased to $5.8 million in 2002). Although the city subsidy has gone down from the initial $600k per year to about $125k per year, the sports complex still does not break even.
    The biggest problem, however, was the process of how the land was acquired. The whole thing was handled with exceptional incompetence and arrogance, ultimately costing the city an extra $1.7 million in settlement and court cost for a piece of land that would have costed only $125k if they had handled it right from the beginning in 1998.
    This involved a developer by the name of Gary Lundgren. Here is the whole scoop:
    Lundgren negotiated with the national office of The Nature Conservancy to buy the land. Meanwhile, Wasilla city officials decided they wanted the land too, and began negotiating with the Alaska office of The Nature Conservancy. Offers were extended to both parties. Lundgren closed the deal.
    Without the title in their hands, the city went ahead with the sales tax increase and started the construction. Then in typical Bush fashion, as Palin was leaving office in 2002,
    Wasilla sued both Lundgren and The Nature Conservancy for title to the land. The case went to a federal appeals court, where Lundgren won rights to the property.
    The court case was finally settled several years after Palin left.
    The real legacy is, that the city is still paying for this today, while having to cut budget in library service, postponing capital improvement projects, and raising fees.
    Can we afford this kind of incompetence on the national level?




    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:15:08 PM

      In Wasilla Palin built the sport complex on SOMEONE S ELSE LAND!!!!! The owner was FORCED to sell at a price lower that what he wanted.
      Palin constructed the complex WITHOUT HAVING A TITLE in what could have been YOUR LAND. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT ABUSE OF POWER?
      IS THAT SOCIALISM? OR WHAT?
      And you are calling Obama SOCIALIST?

      Bush is buying into the banks, and that s not SOCIALISM?

      It is all a smoke screen, so you do not see their own MESS!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/25/2008 7:39:12 AM

        Add now the same insirance companies that are still in court refusing to pay for Katrina. It is not trickle down, it is all top and nothing for the ratepayer, nothing for the consumer, nothing for the worker.
        Shareholders are the protected class.

  • Posted By: LVUONG @ 10/24/2008 11:29:38 AM

    American people understand big government-control, big spending and a big well-fare system, all mean socialism, i.e. "spreading the wealth," or all who work hard will be punished, or taxed, to finance the big spending and pay well-fare for all. That is what Obama calls, "Bottom-up economy." It does not work in many Asian and European countries. We the voters are smarter than that, and media cannot take us for granted.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 11:53:52 AM

      Which European countries are you referring to?

      Also, Canada has been socialist since 1867, and they're doing just fine.

      • Posted By: Rob the Conservative @ 10/24/2008 11:46:00 PM

        That is why Canadians with medical problems that need attention NOW hightail it south to the US. A judge up there even said access to a waiting list is not access to medical care.

  • Posted By: sharkman @ 10/24/2008 11:13:37 PM

    We are in an economic revolution,our constitution has been stolen.My community is getting ready for a depression.A long depression.We must be able to feed ourselves regardless of the monitary system.If you depend on money for you shelter,food,water,or air change your ways now.This is the control the rich pukes want to strangle the working class with.Having us work and produce more for the rich than for ourselves.Prepare for change prepare for a long awaited revolution.You hipocrit baby boomers thought it was going to happen in the 60's when you were young.You theives will live it now and your kids will live under generation next.Make no mistake.

  • Posted By: ddensel @ 10/24/2008 11:04:58 PM

    Sorry McCainiacs, an increase in the highest tax bracket from 35% to 39% is not Socialist, to say so is to say ALL Progressive income tax brackets are Socialist. John McCain wouldn't have the nerve to even ATTEMPT a Flat Tax, so I guess he's a commie too, right?

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 10/24/2008 10:37:48 PM

    Joe the plumber is a lier and probably a plant.

    After hearing him, he most likely will never achieve ownership of a company.

    Right now he will make out under Obama and not McCain.

    But, even if he made $280,000.00 NET, he would pay just $900.00 more in taxes. He would keep $29,100.00 of his income.

    In a time when we are fighting two wars and large deficits, why should NOT he pay this little bit more.

    This is the epitome of greed.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 10/24/2008 10:30:26 PM

    If Obama is a socialist, then any President who taxes and distributes tax income is a socialist.

    Period

  • Posted By: Christian_Patriot @ 10/24/2008 7:42:42 PM

    You people who strain at gnats to find something wrong woth McCain really need to think of what your lives will be like when King Obama takes over and starts controlling your lives like you are a bunch of sheep.

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:40:47 AM

    Obama represents a culture of extreme left wing liberals, with an agenda to reshape the American way of life. He has adopted a Niccolò Machiavelli."The Prince" attitude, justifying any means to achieve the end he desires. His represented positions, with respect to several critical issues, are not consistent with his historical stances, actions, or associations. He is a deceiver of the first class, with a golden mouth with which to fool the people, spewing out what ever will tickle their ears. This man is no patriot, he???s not even un-American, he???s anti-American. Beware Americans, what you see, is not what you???ll get.

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 11:07:54 AM

      GIVING TRILLIONS TO BIG CORPORATIONS IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS IN SUBSIDIES TO BUSINESSES AND FRAMERS IS CAPITALISM

      GOVERNMENT BAILOUT OF BANKS AND BUYING BANK ASSETS IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS IN NO-BID CONTRACTS TO FRIENDS IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS IN TAX BREAKS TO THE WEALTHIEST IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS TO IRAK, AFGHANISTAN, ISRAEL ETC IS CAPITALISM

      BUT....

      GIVING TAX BREAKS TO MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS IS SOCIALISM???
      HELLOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: rorschach99 @ 10/24/2008 12:45:18 PM

        The "billions in tax breaks to the wealthiest" thing gets a little old. I'm not wealthy; far from it. But I have done a little research. Check out the IRS web site; you can get a demographic breakdown of how much is paid in taxes by income band. The tax breaks didn't "give" anything to the wealthy; it allowed them to KEEP a little more of what they had already earned. In 2005, the last year for which the IRS had data when I last checked, the top 14.7% of households by income paid about 84% of the total personal income taxes. The top 5% paid over half. There is a pervasive view - among both republicans and democrats - that the wealthy don't pay much in taxes. That is simply not true. That's not my opinion; it's an objective fact that you can check if you choose to. So, to sum up; the wealthies 5% in this country pay as much or more in income tax as the other 95% COMBINED. If that's not their fair share, what is?

        • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:24:09 PM

          Corporate Welfare Versus Social Welfare
          by David Wildman

          As the U.S. Congress debated welfare policy, the media spotlight focused on the need to cut spending to the poorest people in the nation. At the same time, there was no or minimal coverage of policies that send billions of government dollars to corporate interests from oil companies to agribusiness to firms producing arms.
          Looking across the breadth of the U.S. budget and policies, a key question arises: Whose welfare is the government serving -- the people???s or corporations????
          It???s not a new question. Upon leaving the U.S. presidency in the late 1800s, Rutherford B. Hayes wrote in his diary:
          "The real difficulty is with the vast wealth and power in the hands of the few....It is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations."
          U.S. presidents since have shared Mr. Hayes??? concern. For example, President Dwight D. Eisenhower warned of the dangerous power of the military-industrial complex in his farewell address. In his last weeks in office, President Bill Clinton stopped further subsidies to logging, mining and oil companies by preserving millions of acres of public lands.
          Too often those in power only find courage and wisdom to address injustice of the powerful as they themselves leave power.
          Today a rising number of voices -- environmentalists, workers, faith communities, family farmers, indigenous peoples and some public officials -- are calling for an end to corporate subsidies and privilege they label corporate welfare. Like forces that called for an end to social welfare "as we know it" in the early 1990s, these forces are calling for an end to corporate welfare "as we know it."
          These groups refuse to be silent in the face of corporate efforts to transform government into a shareholders??? meeting where only those with money vote and earn dividends.
          Full article: http://gbgm-umc.org/Response/articles/corporate_welfare.html

        • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:23:08 PM

          Most firms pay no income taxes - Congress
          Study finds that the majority of domestic and foreign corporations in the United States avoid paying federal income taxes.
          NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Nearly two-thirds of U.S. companies and 68% of foreign corporations do not pay federal income taxes, according to a congressional report released Tuesday.
          The Government Accountability Office (GAO) examined samples of corporate tax returns filed between 1998 and 2005. In that time period, an annual average of 1.3 million U.S. companies and 39,000 foreign companies doing business in the United States paid no income taxes - despite having a combined $2.5 trillion in revenue.
          The study showed that 28% of foreign companies and 25% of U.S. corporations with more than $250 million in assets or $50 million in sales paid no federal income taxes in 2005. Those companies totaled a combined $372 billion in sales for the largest foreign companies and $1.1 trillion in revenue for the biggest U.S. companies.
          Full article: http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/12/news/economy/corporate_taxes/
          August 12, 2008

          WHERE IS THE PRESS? NOBODIES IS TALKING ABOUT THIS REPORT!

          WHAT ABOUT THIS DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH?? And these are FACTS, not suppositions.........

          HAPPENED UNDER BUSH WATCH, WHO ARE THE SOCIALISTS HERE?

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/24/2008 12:58:12 PM

        Stop using rational arguments with someone who has no frame of refrence. Think up a neat name for him and just spam it. (Sarcasm-full)

  • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 7:12:56 PM

    In Wasilla Palin built the sport complex on SOMEONE S ELSE LAND!!!!! The owner was FORCED to sell at a price lower that what he wanted.
    Palin constructed the complex WITHOUT HAVING A TITLE in what could have been YOUR LAND. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT ABUSE OF POWER?
    IS THAT SOCIALISM? OR WHAT?
    And you are calling Obama SOCIALIST?

    Bush is buying into the banks, and that s not SOCIALISM?

    It is all a smoke screen, so you do not see their own MESS!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 10/24/2008 1:02:11 PM

    Capitalism is a market system that is not "designed" to distribute fairly or equally. And thank goodness. The claim that the "rich are getting richer" is a empty, class-warfare agrument whose only logical recourse is to have government step in more and more and decide who the winners and losers are. And, that, is socialism. Our current market crisis is a direct result of lousy governement intrusion into the free markets -- intrusion with both Democrat and Republican hands all over it. So, do you want to vote for a guy who promises more of such wisdom-void intrusion or less? Take your pick.

    • Posted By: acoustictherapy @ 10/24/2008 1:12:04 PM

      Perhaps if all of you wealthy Repubs had allowed more of your good fortune to "trickle down," you would not now be facing higher taxation. Your greed has brought you here while millions of working Americans saw times get tougher and tougher. Call it whatever you want: you have nobody to blame but yourselves.

      • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 1:25:22 PM

        Bear in mind that most libertarians aren't rich. They're "pre-rich". They labor under the assumption that Horatio Alger was right, and the system isn't rigged to keep poor people poor and rich people rich. They have the notion that one day THEY will be rich (although the details on HOW they will do this are vague), and they don't wish to screw it up for when THEY benefit.

        Of course, nothing of the kind will happen, so they are basically doing all they can to make sure the game STAYS rigged against them. Heh. It takes all kinds, right?

        • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 10/24/2008 3:08:20 PM

          Seriously, Doc, how do you account for the prosperity of this country of ours? If us "pre-rich" are fools believing in a rigged system, then what's the alternative? Should we look and behave as a country more like socialist France? -- the kinder and gentler form of socialism? Good wine and food, but an economy in permanent stagnation, with an out of control entitlement problem, with true class structures and immobility. True, there is no perfect system, but to synically lay claim that the millions of people who came before us and the millions of people who are here today who amassed many a fortune (or at least comfortable livings) did so because of a myth, then I count me in as a believer. The problem for many of us is the slow and not-so-slow creep of our country toward the socialist model. Bush and company included.

          • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 3:45:21 PM

            "Seriously, Doc, how do you account for the prosperity of this country of ours? If us "pre-rich" are fools believing in a rigged system, then what's the alternative?"

            A well-regulated market, of course. That's why we were prosperous...before the market was regulated, you had tycoons and poor people, and not much in between. Since the market has been deregulated, the trend has been to return to 1904 standards of living.

            " Should we look and behave as a country more like socialist France? -- the kinder and gentler form of socialism?"

            Naw. The French screw everything up. How about the Canadians? Hell, their money is worth more than ours, now, and their standard of living is higher than ours.



            • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 10/24/2008 4:01:45 PM

              The market is more regulated today than it has ever been. It's not the degree of regulation, its the type. And today, we've got more stupid regulation than ever before. Voting for a party that promises more ot it is something not in anyone's best interest. Regarding the dispartity of income, the claim of increasing is a murky one, since the entire curve has skewed up signficiantly. "Poor" in American today means pales in comparison as to what it did in 1930. No arguing that the rich are very rich today, but so are most of us in comparison to most of the word (no, not all).

              • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 5:14:27 PM

                "The market is more regulated today than it has ever been."

                Nonsense. The market was far more regulated from right after the crash of '29 until 1994.


                " It's not the degree of regulation, its the type. And today, we've got more stupid regulation than ever before."

                Really? Which regulations have you bugged? The ones preventing insider trading, or the ones preventing corporations from cooking the books?

                Voting for a party that promises more ot it is something not in anyone's best interest. Regarding the dispartity of income, the claim of increasing is a murky one, since the entire curve has skewed up signficiantly. "Poor" in American today means pales in comparison as to what it did in 1930. No arguing that the rich are very rich today, but so are most of us in comparison to most of the word (no, not all).

                • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 5:19:25 PM

                  Whoops. Hit submit too soon. Disregard the last quoted part.

      • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 10/24/2008 3:50:03 PM

        You are as greedy as the next guy. The difference is that you want the government to do the taking for you. Don't kid yourself. Never met a progressive-liberal yet who didn't like what money can buy, who didn't want more of it, and who volunteered more of their income to the government (as allowed each April 15th). No, they just want Uncle Sam to take someone elses money; money they love to claim that is ill-gotten and worthy of taking. So leave me to vote for my best interests...to keep more of my money...however I earned it.

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 5:12:06 PM

          " So leave me to vote for my best interests...to keep more of my money...however I earned it."

          Unless you're a millionaire, and by your own admission you aren't, you aren't voting your best interest. You're voting for the best interest of CEOs who wouldn't take the time to urinate on you if you were on fire.

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 5:10:42 PM

          "You are as greedy as the next guy. The difference is that you want the government to do the taking for you."

          Naw. We just want a level playing field.

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 1:32:57 PM

      JUST LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD! THAT IS ALL WE ASK!!!!
      I DONT NEED IT, BUT MOST AMERICANS DO NEED IT AND WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE LAST 20 OF 28 YEARS WITH REPUBLICANS IS MORALLY WRONG, HUMANLY WRONG AND UNDER WHICHEVER ANGLE YOU WANT TO LOOK IT IS WRONG!

      • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 10/24/2008 2:11:56 PM

        To claiming that in the last 20 years have been a return to he Dust Bowl days of income disparity, please check the census data that indicates that the percentage of millionaires is way, way up. We have more billionaires than every before. There is simply more wealth and a greater overall standard of living in this country than ever before. Also, poverty rate data, as compiled by our illustrious government, does NOT include governmental transfer payments -- social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, etc... that should be added to the average household "income" statistics, but are not...for political reasons. For Dems, its much more advantageous to have greater numbers of poor to pander to and to derive their political power. Taking from Peter to pay Paul may earn votes from Paul, but it ultimately only drives Paul to hide, run away, or simply give up and make less...joining the other Pauls. Our economy is NOT a pie, a finite amount of goods and services that need to be spread more equally. That is a myth perpetrated by those who seek greater power, more invites to Washington cocktail parties, and fatter federal pensions. With this election, however, we are seeing our growing national entitlement mentality come home to roost. "Give me mine" appears to be the theme of the day.

        • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 2:23:28 PM

          " To claiming that in the last 20 years have been a return to he Dust Bowl days of income disparity, please check the census data that indicates that the percentage of millionaires is way, way up. "

          And the median income has dropped from $22k to $19.9K. The rich got richer, and the poor got poorer. Who cares about millionaires? If you are in the middle class like I am, then neither you nor I will ever be one, so I think I'll just continue to vote my own best interests, thanks.

          • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 10/24/2008 3:41:15 PM

            Doc, where did you get the median income numbers? How were they calculated?

            • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 5:09:55 PM

              The US Bureau of Labor Statistics. http://bls.gov

              The numbers are compiled from tax records. Note that I referenced median wages, which is what the BLS calls the wage that most Americans make (yeah, I know that should be "mode wage", but what can you do? It's the government), rather than average wages, which are dragged upward by CEOs making 849 times minumum wage.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/24/2008 1:07:43 PM

      Why is it only "class warfare" when the poor are the ones doing it? When the rich screw the poor over, that's "the American way", right?

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 1:07:18 PM

      WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL, NOT WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING. BECAUSE NOW ONLY CERTAIN GROUPS THAT HAVE HIJACKED CONGRESS MAKE THE LAW OF THE LAND TO THEIR ADVANTAGE, GET ALL THE CONTRACTS AND ALL THE SUBSIDIES AND ALL THE TAX BREAKS.
      THIS IS NOT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, THIS IS NOT FAIRNESS!

      • Posted By: acoustictherapy @ 10/24/2008 1:13:10 PM

        Okay, okay. Calm down and PLEASE STOP YELLING, ALREADY! We hear you fine.

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