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  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:54:38 AM

    The fact is, that be it a mega corporation, or a ma & pop sole proprietorship, any businessman is going to consider taxes as another line item in their cost of doing business. Guess what, as that cost goes??? up, so does the price of their product or service to the consumer. It???s just that it???s no longer called a tax increase, but rather inflation. The simple fact is that any tax at any level , is eventually born by those who can???t pass it along any further, the working folks. Increases in taxes, is the surest way to promote run away inflation. The only way to effect a positive change in the national economy, is to lower taxes. This may not actually reduce prices of goods and services, but it may allow for wages to catch up, and this would have a stimulating effect. With the current condition of our economy, most importantly in middle America, I couldn???t imagine a less appropriate time to increase taxes at any level, for any reason. Barack Obama has made much of the idea of taxing businesses and not the 95% of the 40% that pay taxes in this country. Please let the people know that it???s simply not so. The working class has always taken it in the shorts, and his plan will be no different

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:53:10 AM

    It???s probably a good thing FEMA has built so many new concentration camps around the country. I???m not sure which side will be interred, but this thing is about to get ugly. I foresee rioting in the streets. I wonder which side the military will align with? I doubt they???ll take the socialist rout.

  • Posted By: Rob the Conservative @ 10/24/2008 10:50:54 AM

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it must be a duck. He advocates a tax cut, in the form of a refundable tax credit for 95% of tax filers, yet slightly less than 50% of tax filers pay taxes. Duh, that is income redistribution--socialism pure and simple.

  • Posted By: lisame197 @ 10/24/2008 10:42:18 AM

    As for sharing the wealth: The role of the government is to build an army so that we can be protected and to make sure that no laws are passed that violate the rights of individuals. The role of this Government has never been to make things fair. We all need to study the history of our government and the constitution to remind ourselves of this. Unfortunately, what in your life is fair? When you went to school, the kids who worked the hardest made the A. If you went to college, the people who were accepted at the best colleges were the ones who worked the hardest. If you graduated from college, the ones who made the best grades and tried the hardest got the best paying jobs. The ones who did not do all of this, well they did not get the A or accepted to the best colleges or the best job offers. None of that is fair, but you know, that is life. Should we pass laws that keep people from being successful? No. Should we decide that those of us who may have tried harder and then succeeded because of it, have to pay for those people who did not try as hard? No. Should we as humans help those who did not get the same chances? Yes. Should we donate our time and money to community projects and missions that will accomplish that goal? Absolutely. Should the government pass laws that force us to be "charitable"? No. Am I inclined to give more when I can do it from my heart and to the organizations of my choice? Absolutely...The government is NOT my parent. The government is NOT my family. The government should not be in control of money that I have worked hard to earn. I should be in control of that money, I should decide how to divide that money among my children, I should decide how to divide that money among my community in charitable giving. If the government wants to be involved in that, they can certainly offer incentives to people, families and corporations that partake in charitable giving. This has proven to work in the past and it can continue to work. US citizens give more money to charitable organizations that help the community more than any other body of citizens in the world. So we as a whole obviously care, but we also believe in freedom of choice. The freedom to choose how much, when and to whom I will donate my money.
    People need to research the percentage of charitable donations that the McCain family has given versus the Obama family from their own personal funds. I am not saying to compare dollar to dollar. I am saying compare percentage of income given to percentage of income given. If you do that, you will see who truly has a charitable heart and wants to give back to the community and the world and share what they have been so fortunate to have earned. Look up these facts on factcheck.org. You will be surprised by the results!

  • Posted By: mlbuie @ 10/24/2008 10:38:15 AM

    All who bring Ayers up tme and again lose crediblity immediately ... I no longer even scan their post. All other reasonable diferences of opinion welcome! :)

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:37:48 AM

    Come on, get real. This guy Obama, is a Marxist Socialist, groomed by leftist radicals in Chicago, to take this country down the road they have been advocating for years. He was tested and vetted in his role as a ???Community Organizer in the eighties, was found to be a gifted, charismatic and intelligent person. From that point on he has been nurtured, educated and groomed, to be the person we see before us today. His agenda is the same as Wrights, Ayers and Farrakhan. His political rhetoric is a smoke screen, to cover the true mission.
    I implore all Americans, of any race, of any color or creed, to look deeper into who this person is.

  • Posted By: McNewMedia @ 10/24/2008 10:35:21 AM

    Wow! I'm so impressed you found that Goldwater letter. That adds a lot to the current discussion. What about Obama's endorsement/membership in the socialist New Party out of Chicago? I don't recall Newsweek discussing this.

    "The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards."

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:33:02 AM

    Take a moment, Google this name, Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tario Al-Mansour. Check out the connections. This is beyond belief. Truly fascinating.

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:32:25 AM

    that al-Mansour may have been a ???political godfather??? for Obama, responsible for promoting his entry to Harvard Law School and launching Obama???s political career by engineering his first autobiography, ???Dreams From My Father.???
    This is the smoking gun. Consider tyhe implications. Why would this Arab supporter of Hamas, fund a guy he didn't even know? On who's request? Find out. Don't be stupid.

  • Posted By: readtolearn @ 10/24/2008 10:32:03 AM

    oooo........anti-american and all that!!!
    well, to each is own. i think he is actually the whole simple pakcage of just 'American' with just greater ideas than many of us. and i would definitely like my president to be that than just 'mavericky' or just 'shockey mom'...

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:31:31 AM

    Obama was selected, nourished and groomed by the extreme left wing radicals in Chicago; Ayers, Farrakhan, Jackson, Flager, and the not so reverend Wright, and a host of others. To these people, he is the prince and is now fulfilling their dreams. His action and attitudes, exemplifies this. oooooooooodaddy, My reference to Obama as the little prince, was a play on the title The Prince. He in my mind is a ???little??? prince. He was selected, nourished and groomed by the extreme left wing radicals in Chicago; Ayers, Farrakhan, Jackson, Flager, and the not so reverend Wright, and a host of others. To these people, he is the prince and is now fulfilling their dreams. His action and attitudes, exemplifies this.

  • Posted By: cinesimon @ 10/24/2008 10:30:50 AM

    Libertarian Patriot: your bigotry and overwhelmingly negative, venomous comments, as with McCain, serve only to highlight how little you have to say about improving the United States of America.
    All you appear able to do is hurl abuse around, name-call, and generally try to demean, with bigotry and childish language, those with whom you disagree.
    This is also what McCain-Palin are doing, and it appears that you bring nothing but hate to the conversation. So well done, you're playing up to the reputation the Republican party are gaining every day, with help from idea-less folk like yourself who prefer to throw a tantrum instead of contribute in a positive way to the debate.

  • Posted By: americandefender @ 10/24/2008 10:28:29 AM

    If being a socialist is caring @ your fellow human beings and wanting to do the right thing for your country and the world, then label me one.

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:27:58 AM

    In almost every case, people associated with a particular faith or denomination of that faith, do so because they are comfortable with its tenants and teachings, and how it impacts their lives.
    Please, find out for yourself, what it is that Obama has subscribed to for the past 20 years. It???s not a matter of the ranting of Rev. Wright, but rather the doctrine, teachings and political implications of the theology.
    Look into the teachings of James Cone and Cornel West, and how they accepted and integrated the principals of Carl Marx into Black Theology.
    Black Liberation Theology is a makeover of the Marxist Liberation Theology that came from the Marxist party in Cuba after the revolution in the sixties, to offset the influence of the Catholic Church over the majority of the citizenry of that country.
    This theology is at the heart of the historical beliefs and associations of Barrack Obama.
    My conclusion is that this man is a Marxist Socialist, and has a hidden agenda, that is disguised by campaign rhetoric designed to fool the people.
    I would rather you came to your own well informed conclusions. I hope you will consider the theological proclamation for the ???Redistribution of Wealth??? and the denouncing of all Zionist influence in this country and of the state of Israel.

  • Posted By: hchattaway @ 10/24/2008 10:26:56 AM

    Everyone should check out the daily show website and look at the video clip "McCain says the "S" Word". Its from 2000 when McCain was running and he told an audience member during a Q&A, that it 's ok for the the well off people to pay more in taxes. Pretty amazing. He advocated it then but it now calling Obama a Socialist... Even more ironic, since McCain voted to nationalize the banks by voting for the $700 billion bailout!

  • Posted By: hchattaway @ 10/24/2008 10:26:15 AM

    Everyone should check out the daily show website and look at the video clip "McCain says the "S" Word". Its from 2000 when McCain was running and he told an audience member during a Q&A, that it 's ok for the the well off people to pay more in taxes. Pretty amazing. He advocated it then but it now calling Obama a Socialist... Even more ironic, since McCain voted to nationalize the banks by voting for the $700 billion bailout!

  • Posted By: apexmech @ 10/24/2008 10:25:32 AM

    Rarely if ever have I agreed with either Bill or Hillary Clinton, on any mater of politics. However, I have never had cause to question their American values, or their patriotism. Obama is quite different. He represents a culture of extreme left wing liberals, with an agenda to reshape the American way of life. He has adopted a Niccolò Machiavelli."The Prince" attitude, justifying any means to achieve the end he desires. His represented positions, with respect to several critical issues, are not consistent with his historical stances, actions, or associations. He is a deceiver of the first class, with a golden mouth with which to fool the people, spewing out what ever will tickle their ears. This man is no patriot, he???s not even un-American, he???s anti-American. Beware Americans, what you see, is not what you???ll get.

  • Posted By: americandefender @ 10/24/2008 10:24:44 AM

    Libertarian Patriot, how can you be so naive don't you know Bush is the one that has been quietly taking your right's away while you rant and rave @ your right's. Wake up and see the damage that has been done by this administration. It's time for real change and america is ready for this historic moment. To our next president Obama.

  • Posted By: sailor79 @ 10/24/2008 7:30:28 AM

    Obama IS a socialist. Example: Asked if Health Care is a commodity or right, he said it is a right. It is not, at least according to the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. His oft-expressed believe that Health Care and College Education are things the government should provide for all is a clear expression of a Socialist point of view.

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 9:44:24 AM

      GIVING TRILLIONS TO BIG CORPORATIONS IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS IN SUBSIDIES TO BUSINESSES AND FRAMERS IS CAPITALISM

      GOVERNMENT BAILOUT OF BANKS AND BUYING BANK ASSETS IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS IN NO-BID CONTRACTS TO FRIENDS IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS IN TAX BREAKS TO THE WEALTHIEST IS CAPITALISM

      GIVING BILLIONS TO IRAK, AFGHANISTAN, ISRAEL ETC IS CAPITALISM

      BUT....

      GIVING TAX BREAKS TO MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS IS SOCIALISM???
      HELLOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 9:14:23 AM

      ASK YOURSELF, WHAT ARE REPUBLICANS?

      DEMOCRACY IS EQUALITY AND FAIRNESS FOR ALL.

      WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN EQUALITY AND FAIRNESS IN THE LAST 8 YEARS?

      LOOK YOUR STATISTICS: MILLIONS MORE IN POVERTY, MILLIONS WITH NO JOBS, NO HOUSE, NO MONEY ETC. AND THE FEW RICH MORE RICH THAN EVER............

      DOES THAT MEANS THAT REPUBLICANS ARE NOT DEMOCRATIC?

      A DICTATORSHIP IN DISGUISE?

      WE NEED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO RE-ESTABLISH DEMOCRACY IN THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: dcsimps @ 10/24/2008 6:54:48 AM

    What Obama is saying clearly has socialist tendencies. To say otherwise, or that it is an epithet, simply indicates one is an uneducated moron.

    • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/24/2008 9:34:05 AM


      Watch the complete video not the gotcha journalism that McCain and Palin complained (w/o reason) but are doing now (like everything else: complaint but repeat). They are taking a phrase out of context, but their whole campaign has been a sequel of lies, innuendos, false accusations, dirty tricks. Is that what you want in the WH?
      Obama explained very clearly the way the actual increased burden on middle class due to giving tax breaks to the richest. Reversing this republican practice so people at the bottom have more opportunities as well.
      That was the context he said the wealth should be spread to everyone not the few. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TAX DISTRIBUTION!
      Having more in your pocket so you could have OPPORTUNITIES as well, have the AMERICAN DREAM, which much people do not seem to believe is possible anymore.

      The republican spin is to lead people to believe he is going to distribute your property like Castro, this is the typical FEAR MONGERING that has worked SO WELL with republican in previous elections, notably Karl Rove tactics!
      Kennedy was also called Socialist and it is the cheap, below the belt name calling that this campaign have distinguished for. The worst maybe in the US history. When it was done to McCain in 2000 he said there was a place in HELL for people like this, well he has bought his own ticket to hell himself.............

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