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Doubts About Dubai

Will the global credit crunch finally put an end to the emirate's building boom?

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  • Posted By: siriusinzim @ 11/06/2008 7:47:18 AM

    The Dubai and UAE property market is not totally coupled to the crisis in European and US Markets. It is not totally immune either. Some of its immunity derives from the control of supply of space - residential, office and commercial - particularly in Abu Dhabi wherein the Governments at Emirate level restrain development through permit approval. Some of its immunity also derives from the demand side where growth is still substantial as perople are attracted to the UAE states and there is a shortage of accommodation. In Dubai, at the moment, the residential accommodation market is a "sellers market" with rentals very firm. As supply catches up in the next 8 - 10 months, it is unlikely that rentals will fall, they will just not increase as much as they have been. The UAE Rulers, collectively and individually, will accommodate the market tension as they are long term planners and this short term market adjustment is well within there capacity to absorb. I think it is also a mistake to assume that what applies in US markets applies in other markets. The IMF has pushed the viewpoint for sometime that Banks in the UAE are overweight in property and that a more balanced portfolio approach should be followed. In a 'western' context of unfettered free market movements, this is correct to minimise contagion. When the market is not unfettered and is managed, it would mean that you would 'export' your investments/capital into other markets where you have no control. The lower risk arises from the management of the market and it should be borne in mnd that the very people who manage the market are those who have invested capital at risk in the Banks and the market. They are not about to reduce there control over there asset base and its value and neither are they about to export there capital to where it is beyond there control. The Emirati leadership - and generally the Gulf leadership - have been burned more than once by forces 'beyond there control' and in there own backyard are not about to get themselves burnt. Expect the building 'boom' to continue but at a much slower pace. The UAE's growth has been reset to 6 % for 2009 by the IMF, a growth rate which is still one of the highest in the world in spite of the credit crisis.

  • Posted By: crwcpa @ 10/25/2008 3:17:47 PM

    Unsecured debt should not be legal. It is the true cancer within our financial system and not one elected official has the strength to talk to the American people about how their immaturity and gluttony is crippling our childrens' future.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 12:14:12 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 12:14:04 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 10/24/2008 5:11:25 PM

    Dubai will do just fine, the emirate, is a very smart man he's invested in his own country, even if it's been a bit of a rush job, all he has to do is sit it out for a few months he sill has the oil income
    Not like our illustrious leader who invested Americas future into a rat hole and eliminated what little remained of our manufacturing income.

  • Posted By: JTHG @ 10/24/2008 12:50:35 PM

    For all those 'would be job seekers' in NYC and elsewhere, a piece of advice, don't come to Dubai. Stay in your home country and help rebuild and repair the economies there. Dubai is an overrun sandpit with skyrocketing rents for substandard accommodation, massive sewage treatment issues, and no human rights. Granted the weather is sunny much of the year but it is blistering hot for 5 months of it and the traffic is a nightmare. Honestly, save your curiosity and sanity and don't bother.

  • Posted By: Nome Sain @ 10/24/2008 11:21:59 AM

    With geniuses like Mark B offering their eloquent insight, who needs Howard Fineman and Fareed Zakaria?

  • Posted By: Nome Sain @ 10/24/2008 11:20:51 AM

    Gee, with such intelligent commentary by people like Mark B, who needs Howard Fineman and Fareed Zakaria?

  • Posted By: Northern Neighbor @ 10/24/2008 10:56:59 AM

    Well, there are all kinds of warnings in the Bible about building on sand. Build on rock, it says, on stone--like Peter, Pierre, stone. Dubai is just all sand. So, see now, what that can get you, building on sand, in spite of repeated warnings, going ever so far back?

  • Posted By: ingenipes @ 10/24/2008 9:51:38 AM

    What debt??? With all the money we have been paying them for oil, why aren't they using cash for this building boom????? They certainly have not been spending any on environmental issues other than total destruction.

  • Posted By: Mark B @ 10/24/2008 9:28:53 AM

    Dont worry the next Douche bag coming int office in America will help you out. Why not your the same color and hell if it looks like a duck...............................................you get the picture.
    Greedy fat Americans should have tried to get a piece of this place. Oh that right they were too busy trying to buy up every house to turn a profit on it. SUCKERS!
    I will have a great x-mas and I dont need to cut back on my spending. I just watched the idiots get deeper and deeper into debt. HA!
    Obomber will fix it. DREAMERS it took four years to screw the system. Do you think a used car salesmen is going to fix it in a year?

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/23/2008 7:43:25 PM


    Comment: THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ


    • Posted By: AMERICAN LOVER @ 10/23/2008 11:38:22 PM

      LIKE N-OBAMA DOES! WAKE UP YOU MORAN!!! OBAMA DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RUN A DONUT STAND LET ALONE OUR COUNTRY OTHER THAT TO PUT US DEEPER INTO A SOCIALIST RESCISSION! WHEN WILL YOU IDIOTS EVER WAKE UP AND SEE THAT MCCAIN IS SMART HE LOVES HIS COUNTRY HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY HE DIDN'T JUST BECOME A SENATOR TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND NOT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN HIS LIFE WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT OBAMA HAS ANY LEADERSHIP AT ALL, HE IS PUT UP BY BIG MONEY, LOOK AT HOW HE ACTS LIKE A LITTLE BOY WITH A BIG EGO! THAT ISN'T PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL NOR IS HIS UGLY APE LOOKING WIFE! THAT RIGHT CALL ME A RACIST...I AM JSUT TELLING IT LIKE I SEE IT AND MANY OTHERS HATE THE OBAMAS!!! LIKE OVER HALF THE COUNTRY, WAKE UP YOU IDIOTS! MCCAIN HAS LEADERSHIP AND PLAIN HAS THE EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE OF BEING GOVERNOR, HOW MANY PRESIDENTS BECAME PRESIDENTS AFTER BEING GOVERNOR, ALMOST ALL! DO A HISTORY CHECK! YOU LIBERAL DEMOCRATS NEVER TO TAKE BLAME FOR ANYTHING YOU ARE WHY WE ARE IN THE MESS WITH THE GAY FAGOT BARNEY FRANK OVERSEEING WHILE HE IS UP THE HERSHEY HIGHWAY WITH ANOTHER GAY AT FANNIE..HOW WRONG IT THAT! THAT'S RIGHT THIS IS STILL A FREE COUNTRY, FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY! MCCAIN/PALIN TAKE THE TICKET ALL THE WAY!!!

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/24/2008 9:24:19 AM

        Look Governor Palin, this is not helping your 2012 planned coup, and Dr. Dobson is looking for you.

  • Posted By: AMERICAN LOVER @ 10/23/2008 10:51:05 PM

    OBAMA IS NOT A SAVIOR , HE IS THE ANTI-CHRIST!!!! HOW DARE YOU eVEN mention SAVIOR!!! WIPE YOUR OWN A!! JUST SAY NO TO OBAMA!!! MCCAIN PALIN WILL WIN come NOVEMBER 4th in th EVENING WAIT & SEE, SURPRISE WE ARE GOING TO KICK YOUR BOTTOM to HELL wiht OBAMA where you all belong and you will end up there he is EVIL and anyone who votes for this SOCILIST< IDIOT will burn right laong with him as one day you will all have to answer to GOD!!! EVEN SATIN!!!

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/24/2008 9:23:07 AM

      Let me get this right, I will burn in hell in Satin? Hmm, I am sort of a wool blanket GI myself. Can I burn in hell in standard issue please?

  • Posted By: bobbynobody @ 10/24/2008 8:16:00 AM

    wow...I'm always so disappointed to see how ignorant Americans can be. People who don't even understand what 'freedom of speech' means, who don't even understand the responsibilities which comes with such freedom, who use trite and common crutches such as 'good' and 'evil', who can't even spell - WOW! These "AMERICAN LOVER" types just take the cake, but they don't eat it, no, they rub it all over their face and ***, roll around on the floor in it, then start throwing it at people. WOW! What more can said. I'm so broud to be American?

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/24/2008 9:21:32 AM

      They are desperate sick people. They have been engaged in election violence too.

  • Posted By: Braes @ 10/24/2008 9:19:39 AM

    Dear Dubai,
    If you find yourself short of cash, feel free to use all of ours stolen by Halliburton. They are in your yard now, probably stealing you blind. If you happen to apply a little harsh justice to the thieves, no sweat off my back. Oh, and about the oil? We really don't care anymore. I'd rather pay through the nose for a car that does not use any at all, than ever pay for imported energy, ever again. I am not alone there.
    The biggest price manipulations in history began in the oil pits, and plenty of people were laughing as you jacked oil to $147/bbl. Well, you destroyed the goose that lays golden eggs.
    Are you going to eat that sand and drink that oil?
    I wonder how long the United States base will remain?

  • Posted By: bobbynobody @ 10/24/2008 8:14:25 AM

    wow...I'm always so disappointed to see how ignorant Americans can be. People who don't even understand what 'freedom of speech' means, who don't even understand the responsibilities which comes with such freedom, who use trite and common crutches such as 'good' and 'evil', who can't even spell - WOW! These "AMERICAN LOVER" types just take the cake, but they don't eat it, no, they rub it all over their face and ***, role around in it on the floor, and thren throw it at us. Then they wonder why we don't want any. WOW!

  • Posted By: rhrjr2002 @ 10/24/2008 8:12:35 AM

    And yes, notice the spelling of "idiout", you are that kind, who is not only and idiot, but out of touch, as well.

  • Posted By: rhrjr2002 @ 10/24/2008 8:10:16 AM

    Wow. "American Lover" you are a complete idiout, who has a brain and literacy skills of a cave man. What grade did you get to? 4th? Do you even know how to write a sentence? Obviously not. Before you try to act smart, get smart first. You are a Bush-ite, as you have followed your leader very well.

  • Posted By: neutral1 @ 10/24/2008 3:16:16 AM

    lol lol lol....the only bad news I see is your terrible spelling moran......For all we know mccain is gonna drop dead if and whenever he becomes president, and thats when the terrible nightmare begins.....palin as president...wow....

  • Posted By: AMERICAN LOVER @ 10/23/2008 8:27:08 PM

    YOUR AN IDIOT! NO OBAMA NOT IN 08, NOT EVER WILL HE BE PRESIDENT! WE LOVE OUR FREEDOM HE S A MAN WHO WANTS TO RUIN AMERCIA AND ALL THAT SHE STANDS FOR, GOD BLESS MCCAIN AND PALIN, THEY BOTH WILL TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND ALL WHICH YOU LIBERALS FEEAR THAT WE MAY MAKE AMERICA WHAT SHE USED TO BE! PEOPLE JSUT SAY "NO" TO OBAMA!!! HE IS AN EVIL MAN =, HE HAS A HIDDEN AGENDA, EVER HEAR OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST, IT WILL BE FROM HIM AND HE WILL MAKE US A SOLCILIST COUNTRY, PRETTY SCARY AND THAT ISN'T TO SCARE YOU OR TASTICS AS THIS OHTER ONE CLAIMS IT'S THE PLAIN AND PRESENT TRUTH, EVER WONDER WHY OBAMA IS SUCH A SECRET BECAUSE HE IS COVERS UP HIS PAST, ALL LIES! VOTE FOR MCCAIN /PALIN WINNERS TO BRING AMERICA BACK TO BEING TALL!

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