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  • Posted By: mrbecker @ 10/28/2008 4:24:48 PM

    Yes, thank you Mayor Kiffer. As someone who travels to Ketchikan twice a year to visit my granddaughter I know how difficult it is to catch that ferry, lug over 150 pounds down the steep incline and up the other side during low tide. Why 150 pounds? Because there are still some things they just can't buy in Ketchikan and Grandma always tries to bring as much up as she can. This means everyone arrives in waves to check in. Not a pleasant experience when they're paging you to hurry up and board your plane. When people who don't understand how Alaska timber reseeds naturally shut down logging, it was a hardship for the community. They need the development on the airport island. Everyone has an opinion and few know the facts.

  • Posted By: pastol @ 10/28/2008 2:04:44 PM

    A tad harsh, don't you think lester & Wolf? I thought the article was a nice insight that has previously been ignored. Why didn't Palin explain things like this? It doesn't validate the need for a bridge, nor does the writer pretend to attempt to do so. Lighten up guys. Nowhere did Mr. Kiffer say that he felt it was vitally important. That is putting words into his mouth. And he seems to have a pretty adult attitude about the whole thing. As to why Palin didn't explain it like this, well, does lipstick on a pig ring a bell?

  • Posted By: lester13 @ 10/28/2008 11:27:32 AM

    So your community was lead down the garden path by some sweet talking politicians (welcome to life in the US of A) and now you want the federal government to foot the bill, $400 million not counting cost over runs, so that it is easier to 144,000 people have better access to their airport. We here in the Hampton Roads are of Virginia have long been trying to get a third crossing of the James river in this area. We have millions of residents here, we get millions of visitors annually, we move billions of dollars worth of goods through this area, and then there is the millitary. We can't find enough federal dollars to get the project funded even with the state ponying up but you feel that it is vitally important to the needs of your citizens that they have a bridge instead of ferries to take them to their airport.

  • Posted By: LauraICURN @ 10/25/2008 9:16:55 PM

    Okay...let me see if I've got this straight. First your Gov. Palin was for this bridge that Ketchikan needs so much...then when it became a political liability for her...she then trumpted about how she stopped the bridge to nowhere. Now you are telling us in the lower 48 (some of us live in those unAmerican parts of the lower 48) that you guys really needed the bridge. Well..I suppose its a good thing then that Sarah and Todd weren't successful products of the AIP....that's the Alaska Independence Party, or else Alaska wouldn't be able to appeal to the lower 48 for help. Now...don't get me wrong...I would love to visit Alaska and I have nothing against its good people...but didn't your state get some 55 million bucks for that project and keep it, even though the bridge was never built? What did Sarah do with that money? I tell you what.....I'll get together with some of my fellow Americans in the lower 48 UnAmerican parts of the country and we'll scrape together some money if you take your Governor back and KEEP her there...for good! You betcha!

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 11:10:58 PM

      Liberal crap. You Betcha

      • Posted By: LauraICURN @ 10/26/2008 2:20:00 PM

        Beargirl,
        Don't tell me...your are pregnant the lots of tatoos?

  • Posted By: r*u*serious?! @ 10/25/2008 9:34:16 PM

    I can live without salmon and halibut...and while the high gas prices are extremely inconvenient, they also appeared for awhile to be a possible catalyst which forced the American people to wake up and take clean energy seriously. I sympathize with the residents of Ketchikan and I can relate to the inconveniences and sacrifices one must make to live in a small town (I happen to live in a small town in the desert and water is a big issue for us) this bridge would have cost $398 million dollars...$398 million dollars!!!! for one of the least populated states in the union.

    What I am really outraged about is that it was $398 million dollars earmarked for a bridge in Ketchikan, that was never built...but if I understand this story fully, neither was it returned to the government coffers...Palin had felt no compunction in simply keeping that money and diverting it elsewhere.

    What can I do? Nothing, not my governor...hopefully not my future VP either.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 11:13:59 AM

      October 28, 2008
      By Wolfman

      America is about to be flushed down the toilet

      Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

      Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

      Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

      I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

      People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

      What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

      In God we trust.

      http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 11:07:46 PM

      Liberal crap.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 10:02:59 PM

        That's all she HAS to say. She's like a narcotics dog. She knows a "spread the wealth" person, when she smells one..

      • Posted By: crowe4me @ 10/26/2008 12:46:44 AM

        Beargirls mother must have only taught her two words..."amen" and "liberal crap"....that's all she has to say for herself. Freaking fruitcake.

  • Posted By: brownice34 @ 10/25/2008 9:37:02 PM

    It is unfortunate you think Obama is a terrorist, like you actually have proof. Of course you believe what anyone tells you, when you find out he isn't a terrorist you should appologize. By the way if you are black or a muslim it doesn't qualify you as a terrorist and if you are using guilt by assocation, then I guess we are all guilty of something. As far as Palin, why would we elect someone who doesn't follow through and lacks commone sense. The story above proves that fact.

    • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/25/2008 9:54:41 PM

      I , for one, don't believe that Obama is a terrorist. I think that he is a by-product of not having a good father and mother. I feel sorry for him that he had a Maxist pedophile when he was young in Hawaii. He has been brainwashed and doesn't know any better. William Ayers is the terrorist that got let off on a technicality and changed his methods. He and Obama were trying to indoctinate 5 year olds into Marxism in Chicago. No wonder the high school graduation rate is so low in Chicago. Any kid with half a brain is going to bail out of that system.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 11:11:42 AM

        On October 25, 2008 Ayers was photographed by FoxNews with a red star on the front of his shirt, which covered the whole front of his body. A red star is the symbol of Communism.

      • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 11:07:09 PM

        amen

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 11:06:24 PM

      liberal crap

  • Posted By: Doe44 @ 10/25/2008 9:37:33 PM

    I love Ketchikan! It is a beautiful place. I've only passed through by way of Ferry. It is amazing! I see how the bridge is needed since a ferry is needed to get to the airport on the other side. Although it can be a little out of the way at times... having to ride a ferry to get to the airport is pretty unique. Not many cities can say that they have to take the ferry system to get to the other side. However, if you started a project, you should finish a project. End of story. Unless of course, that project is illegal or destroys lives.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 11:06:25 AM

      The bridge is "wanted", not "needed". So far the ferry is the best answer, but there may be other solutions than a bridge. "Spreading the wealth" is out of the question for now.
      October 28, 2008
      By Wolfman

      America is about to be flushed down the toilet

      Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

      Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

      Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

      I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

      People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

      What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

      In God we trust.

      http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

  • Posted By: bgerard2 @ 10/25/2008 9:38:09 PM

    And to the clueless New Yorker lamenting that "why doesn't the community & the oil companies build the bridge that is need so badly?" and then in the same paragraph says "vote Obama" don't even get me started. You are about as clueless as clueless can get. Vote for a presidential candidate like Obama that wants to redistribute the wealth (steal from those who earn it) & is as socialist as socialist can get? Sheesh..

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 11:05:28 PM

      Amen

      • Posted By: abbankhead @ 10/25/2008 11:46:03 PM

        How can you say Amen? People let's be more opened minded about Obama and McCain. We all know both men have had less than perfect backgrounds. McCain isn't Mr. Clean you know. Neither Ms. Palin. If someone checked your background what would they find? As for the socialist thing, I believe both men voted for the billons of dollars and to buy shares of the banking system? Just a question.

        • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 11:01:42 AM

          October 28, 2008
          By Wolfman

          America is about to be flushed down the toilet

          Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

          Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

          Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

          I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

          People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

          What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

          In God we trust.

          http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

        • Posted By: bgerard2 @ 10/26/2008 4:43:05 AM

          Dear abbankhead,

          You are absolutely correct in your assertion that John McCain "isn't Mr. Clean" and also about "both men voting for billions of dollars of" (bailout money) and I am sure that you meant to imply 'socialist policies'. That is very true! However my comment was directed towards some muddled thinker that in the same paragraph made a statement about the "community and the oil companies" build the bridge in Alaska - in others words, being independent of the Federal blob and the great teat that we have created. And then in the same breath promotes Barack Obama an ardent socialist with radical communist affiliations too? Huh? Like Hello? That New Yawker didn't bring up John McCain and he wasn't part of this conversation. Don't try to steer this away from it's original context as I will call you on it like I am doing now. It's isn't about being more "open-minded". That's where you are wrong. I see the Uncle Sugar in both candidates throwing all the little doggies a bones in order to get the votes. And it isn't right! It's a definitive trend towards a new socialist America I will not so readily capitulate and take this laying down! I am not a socialist nor will I ever willingly accept such a system. And to hell with all of it's adherents!

          Outside Independence Hall when
          the Constitutional Convention of 1787 ended,
          Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin,
          "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?"
          With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded,
          "A republic, if you can keep it."

        • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/26/2008 12:04:54 AM

          I forgot, I mean Liberal idiot.

        • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/26/2008 12:04:19 AM

          What can I say. Oh, I know, you are an idiot.

  • Posted By: TutuJoyce @ 10/25/2008 9:48:43 PM

    Interesting comments but you are missing the point. Ketchikan needs a bridge as many towns need bridges to get to another part of their town that is separated by water. We need common sense people at the helm not socialistic ideas as Mr. Obama is promoting. Living in Hawaii myself for a total of 10 years gave me the exposure and experience being the most socialistic and bureaucratic state as well as prejudice. Is that what we want for America? I would think not, but that is what is the environment Mr. Obama has had. I personally believe we should be concentrating on the issues that affect all Americans and how those plans will result for a better America. We do not want a United Socialistic States of America but The United States of America. Consider the experience not the smooth words and charisma. Thank you for listening. Tutu

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:56:51 AM

      October 28, 2008
      By Wolfman

      America is about to be flushed down the toilet

      Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

      Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

      Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

      I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

      People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

      What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

      In God we trust.

      http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 11:01:17 PM

      Amen

  • Posted By: jcwestpt03 @ 10/25/2008 9:49:20 PM

    If a bridge is necessary, find a funding institution to issue a revenue bond. Give investors an opportunity to fund the bridge, and in exchange let those investors have a stake in the bridge and allow them to profit from it. If a bond is unpalatable, increase airport user fees and passenger facility charges to fund the road...that way the burden for funding the bridge falls solely on those who would utilize the airport. This is often the case when new roads are constructed to other airports around the country, or when airports are upgraded. Assuming his numbers are correct that 250,000 pass through the airport every year, a PFC increase of 2 dollars annually would yield $500K in 1 year, PFC increase of $4 would yield 1 million in a year, and so on. This could be used to repay bond investors or to fund the construction. This could be further increased by adding a 1 dollar increase to the port charges on the 1 million visitors who come on cruise ships. Don't burden every taxpayer in the U.S. for something thatt will not benefit all of us. Give investors a chance, or limit the expense to those who would use the facilities. As an example, I am from Memphis, TN... We were in major need of a new airport terminal. We did not expect every taxpayer to fund that....the port authority issued bonds and is in the process of repaying them with income from higher PFC charges. At the same time, as a bondowner, I am able to profit from it, and the burden for funding the improvements lied squarely on users of the airport, not the Memphis or Tennessee taxpayer or federal taxpayer.

    • Posted By: AK-rider @ 10/25/2008 10:02:44 PM

      Well, if that's your point of view. I agree, let's let Alaska sell their crude oil on the open market, instead of just California and Texas, whom regulate the prices and hold a monopoly on all oil drawn from the north slope. Sounds fair to me, we'll buy our own bridge, you can use Iraq's oil. And as far as the natural gas pipeline that's being built in our state. You can pay fair market value for that gas as well, instead of pennies on the dollar. Wouldn't want anyone to suffer for the benefit of others, now would we?

      -Fairbanks Alaska-

      • Posted By: akresident @ 10/26/2008 2:48:09 AM

        AK-Rider you tell em.... We don't need them as much as they think we do. Why stop with the oil and natural gas, lets see how they like $100 fish sticks, $80lb crab, $50 lb salmon. I know fisherman that would love to sell it for that. Please..... we are self sustaining if we just get rid of them and their rules... Cows can live here right...LOL... Juneau used to have a huge dairy where the airport is now.

        Juneau, Alaska

        • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:54:59 AM

          If you vote right, and follow the rules, you might get what you want.

      • Posted By: jcwestpt03 @ 10/25/2008 10:35:31 PM

        I think you misunderstand my point... state. You have a beautiful I think you need the bridge. I merely question the use of earmark spending to fund it, when there are so many other ways to fund it such as bonds or higher PFCs. I am not saying that bonds or higher PFCs are exactly the right way to go but am merely suggesting them as an alternate to earmarks. I for one would be willing to invest in such a bond, given that government insured bonds are a pretty safe bet these days. If tax money is to be used, give all taxpayers something in return. And give people an opportunity to profit. All Memphis did was get a loan guarantee from the government for the airport improvement. Memphis is not a wealthy place either, but many obviously had a stake in the airport. Fedex and Northwest airlines were probably the largest corporate investors in those government bonds, in addition to the average investor. Would the oil companies hesitate to invest in such bonds in Alaska like Northwest and Fedex did here? Find me a broker and let me invest a little in building the bridge .. A guaranteed tax free return and insured principal is something we could all use nowadays in our portfolios, or wished we had before the stock market tumble in recent weeks.

  • Posted By: CrystalStaggs @ 10/26/2008 2:24:45 PM

    Another good point to make is that the cruise ships that come in to Ketchikan, via the Tongass Narrows, said the would SKIP Ketchikan if we built this bridge, casing a further decline in and already fractured economy. The fact is that town will crumble without the influx of tourists each summer. Instead of arguing about an effing bridge, why not look into LOCAL business opportunities instead of selling the entirety of down town to jewelry store conglomorates that don't put anything back into the community. Why not spend some of that earmarked money on what Ketchikan really needs. COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS. After school activities for kids from grade school to high school, some kind of alternative to the standard Ketchikan statistic: Sex, Drugs, Alcohol, Jail Time. Why not spark something other than a suicidal ambition in the younger generations. So people will actally want to stay in the community, raise a family. I lived in Ketchikan for 22 years. Went to school there, gradutated from Kayhi. A bridge to Gravina will NOT fix the problems Ketchikan has. A city and bourough government that has more interest in community then money will.

    • Posted By: Chicazule @ 10/26/2008 4:15:04 PM

      Good point if it were true. One reason the "bridge" costs so much is it is actually two bridges...one across Revilla to Pennock and another from Pennock to Gravina so the cruise ships can still have the narrows. A lot of locals think a point to point bridge would be a cheaper alternative, but the cruise industry thinks otherwise. As to outreach programs...try PATCHworks, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, Boys and Girls Club, Sports, Ballet, Swimming., Debate, Academic Decathalon, Public Radio.......nothing to do???? The kids I know are booked solid.

      • Posted By: GoObama! @ 10/27/2008 2:27:12 PM

        Well, its good to know that groups like Boys and Girls Club, sports, dance, etc. are alive and well in Alaska; perhaps the Palins could utilize these services for their remaining children so they don't feel the overwhelming need to get pregnant and be married by the time they're 18, like Sarah and Todd did, or like their daughter Bristol is obviously in line to do.

        • Posted By: akmother @ 10/27/2008 10:05:33 PM

          wow...pretty judgemental conclusion to jump to. Democrat, right?

          • Posted By: GoObama! @ 10/28/2008 10:53:04 AM

            Enter Your Comment
            No - actually, I'm an independent atheist who is disgusted by the theological leanings of way too many people who think its OK to shove their religious beliefs down others throats - i.e., having a child at all costs, treating sex as though it were an actual "gift from God" when the reality is its a biological function, period. Sarah Palin's "abstinence only" educational belief for family planning is a joke, and a failure within her own family, but then again, so is she - a delusional liar of monumental proportions. She had to "elope" because she was pregnant with her first son, and now her daughter is doing the same. I'll say it again - these kids need better things to do with their time, so I'm glad that AK does offer outlets for children that promote healthy individuality, as opposed to thinking they need to be married and pregnant by the time they're 18. Of course, I could go on for hours about the negative affects organized religion, and religious belief in general, have had on human beings and the Earth, since the beginning of time, but this is neither the time nor the place. Peace be with you...

  • Posted By: Athenasmom @ 10/25/2008 9:52:51 PM

    I have lived in Ketchikan for 15 years. So I know first hand the need for that bridge. Our town dies in the winter time because the tourist shops which make up a majority of our downtown all close and get boarded up. If we had that bridge we would be able to locate businesses on Gravina Island and maybe in the future we could put some business(a few) on Pennock Island which is the other island between Gravina and Revilla island which Ketchikan is located on.. All of which would help our community so much. You all can be outraged but until you come and live here you will never understand the importance of that bridge.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:50:04 AM

      You "want" the bridge. You don't "need" the bridge. You'll probably never get the bridge, but if you want an earmark, request one from congress.

  • Posted By: BobbyGinoldOLY @ 10/25/2008 9:57:19 PM

    The mayor makes a great point about Ketchikan being 'somewhere'. It was unfair to refer to it that way in any conversation. However, it is still ridiculous to think that the United States can afford to just use taxpayer money to develop a place for business. This is what the Republican party seems to always get backwards. They want business to be free of government, but they also want the government to pay for all the infrastructure it needs to grow. Vote for Obama and 'hope' for a change.

    • Posted By: luckydog70592 @ 10/25/2008 10:29:33 PM

      You are an idiot. The US government has always paid for the advancement of commuities to build infrastructure to build business. IRAQ for example. JAPAN for example. KOREA for example....etc. The bridge is needed, and so many other things so many other places, looks like this place fell between the cracks. I am from a place where a hurricane has proven that people expect the government to take care ot them, Ketchikan really "needs" the government to help them. These people want to develop not just take a handout.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:46:16 AM

        I like her. Most earmarks are wasteful spending. I doubt that you ever will get an earmark for the bridge. If you want to try, contact your congressional representatives.

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 10:57:32 PM

      Liberal crap

  • Posted By: FreeThinker79 @ 10/25/2008 9:59:13 PM

    The reason why this earmark is so frustrating is because the money is coming from people who will never use that bridge. I understand the need, but that need should be met by those who will use it and be benefitted by it. Our forefathers did not have it in mind that our Federal Government would be used to build bridges so that a small town could have access to an airport. The State of Alaska should be fitting that bill if it is a need. I am certainly not willing to spend my tax dollars to help people who call us the "SCUM IN THE LOWER 48". The McCain ticket is absolutley correct when they say that earmarks are waiste. If you need it so bad, pay for it yourself.

    • Posted By: free-america2008 @ 10/25/2008 10:34:12 PM

      I am quite sure that some of my tax dollars are going for projects in your area that I will never use or receive benefits from. The people of Ketcikan pay taxes and therefore are entitled to government funds the same as any other city or state. You remind me of a local politician that just informed two small communities in our county that there wasn't enough people in our area to justify mainting our gravel roads on a routine basis and that our votes didn't count. Speaking for small towns across the nation, we pay taxes too, and our people have the same rights as the people from large cities.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:42:26 AM

        Earmarks are mostly wasteful spending. I doubt that you will ever get an earmsrk. If you think you can pull it off, Contact your congressional represenatives.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 7:19:55 PM

      Amen, brother Ben!

    • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/25/2008 11:42:51 PM

      And while we are at it let's get rid of HUD, HEW etc. and just provide for the common defense.

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 10:55:32 PM

      Amen

  • Posted By: allantal @ 10/25/2008 9:59:38 PM

    Why is it that people who object to spreading the wealth do not want their's sprerad but are mor than willing to take the spread from somebody else. If Ketchikan had the nmoney they could build the bricdge themselves. If they don't why should the rest of us pay for it? It is too far, the population is too small and the financial return could never eaqual the cost in out lifetime.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:30:17 AM

      October 28, 2008
      By Wolfman

      America is about to be flushed down the toilet

      Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

      Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

      Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

      I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

      People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

      What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

      In God we trust.

      http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 7:18:20 PM

      There you go thinking again. The result: Common sense.

  • Posted By: mhogan2 @ 10/25/2008 10:12:09 PM

    I live in Arizona...why should I pay for a bridge in f'ing Alaska to an island that has 14,000 people??? Move somewhere that has a road to an airport!!! We can't afford to do everything everywhere. I'm sure Alaska gets their fair share of highway funds. Of course, the author doesn't mention how much in federal funds Alaska gets or pays or any other piece of significant data that would make for an educated, informative article.

    Dave Kiffer gives no specifics on anything other than makes an attempt to build an anti-Palin puff piece attempting to make it sound like the bridge is the BEST way to spend $xxxx of millions. Are there other, more beneficial ways to spend $x amount of dollars? I'd imagine there are. Health care for X of children would top a bridge for 14,000 people. They can take a boat.

    This is the lamest piece of "reporting" I've ever seen. Just lead with "I hate Palin, I'm trying anything I can to make Republicans look bad". Repubs do enough on their own to make themselves look bad, they need no help from the author.

    If you want to present a point of view, present some facts from both sides and then present arguments that support your case, instead of just one point of view that happens to serve your political interest. I know you just love your Barry Obama, but try to hide it just a little.

    what a piece of propaganda!!!





    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 7:07:46 PM

      Nice piece! We need more people like you. Kiffer is a Democrat running against Don Young. He really comes across as a "spread the wealth" socialist. He wants a bridge, and that's all there is to it. There are no priorities or alternatives. It smacks of dictatorial demands. Well I'll have my eye on him. When he allies himself with Obama, he taints himself with socialism, communism, Muslims, and criminals. That's guilt by association. That's what you get when you associate with Democrats that support Obama. It's negative too; well let's see if the truth hurts me.

      • Posted By: Chicazule @ 10/27/2008 1:27:23 AM

        Hey, dumbass....Kiffer isn't running for anything! He was just elected Mayor. You are thinking of Ethan Berkowitz of Anchorage and Juneau who is running for Don Young's seat. Who are you people, anyway? You surely don't live in Alaska.

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 10:52:59 PM

      Amen

  • Posted By: yellowbiplane@gmail.com @ 10/25/2008 10:15:04 PM

    Alaskans just don't get it.

    Our small town in Colorado paid for its own water & sewer treatment facilities. Meanwhile, Mayor Palin hired a Washington DC lobbiest to get Wasilla federal $$ for its water & sewer upgrades. Because Palin was so focused on getting porkbarrel $$ from Washington, Wasilla had $$ to build a top notch hockey rink.

    Small towns in the Lower 48 don't get the extras that Wasilla got. We make do without the federal earmarks.

    Shame on Mayor Palin and then Governor Palin for turning Alaska into a true Welfare State.

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 10:51:46 PM

      Liberal crap.

      • Posted By: elude411 @ 10/25/2008 11:56:24 PM

        Typing "liberal crap" everytime someone posts a comment you don't agree with isn't furthering the discussion at all. Perhaps you should respond with a well informed counter opinion so people won't form uninformed opinions about you.

        • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/26/2008 1:36:25 AM

          Liberals don't listen to anyone else's side of the discussion anyway, so why waste the energy? It's like they have been indoctrinated into Marxism and then their brains are shielded with cast iron so that nothing else can enter, Is that a logical arguement?

          • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:24:17 AM

            October 28, 2008
            By Wolfman

            America is about to be flushed down the toilet

            Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

            Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

            Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

            I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

            People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

            What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

            In God we trust.

            http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

          • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 6:20:27 PM

            It makes sense to me.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 6:17:38 PM

      I suspect that you are a Democrat, but I have to agree with some of what you say. I think Palin and the earmarks were wrong. I think George Bush was wrong when he signed the "highway past Hastert's farm" deal. Earmarks are uncontrolled, and often wasteful, spending not subject to a vote on the specific earmark.

    • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/25/2008 11:01:08 PM

      I was lead to understand that it was a Federal loan and tha Wasilla was paying it back with interest. Am I wrong?

  • Posted By: brittanybear @ 10/25/2008 10:23:26 PM

    AKgrandma and others- I took a look at google Earth and if the people of Ketchikan AK want/need a bridge to their airport who are we to judge? Isn't a majority of the republican beliefs crediting individual states with responsibility to take care of their own people? If Palin prides herself on being an Alaskan, why would she throw part of her state under the bus when it comes down to denying access to a necessary map point, like an airport? Y'all must not be "REAL AMARICANS" in Ketchikan... (sorry bad joke.)

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 10:49:01 PM

      more Liberal crap.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:21:45 AM

        October 28, 2008
        By Wolfman

        America is about to be flushed down the toilet

        Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

        Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

        Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

        I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

        People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

        What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

        In God we trust.

        http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

      • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/25/2008 11:08:12 PM

        Is your maiden name "Melody Reed"? I think I might know you.

        • Posted By: brittanybear @ 10/26/2008 12:11:43 AM

          I am not Melody Reed. If she sounds like me she has got to be one awesome chick... =)

          • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/26/2008 1:01:34 AM

            She is! She lived in Eagle. She loved to hunt bears. I think that she would hunt them with a knife if she found herself lacking a firearm.

  • Posted By: jlperk @ 10/25/2008 11:04:54 PM

    Newsweek is such a BIAS publication. Where is the story of Obama and the Terroist!!!!!!!!!!!! Somthing that is really important to our country. Not a bridge story!!(oh my gosh!).

    • Posted By: eastcoastgirl @ 10/25/2008 11:09:00 PM

      Are you sure your username shouldn't be lpjerk? Give the man a break. Obama and the terrorist is propaganda and everyone knows it. Do a little research why don't you?

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:18:04 AM

        October 28, 2008
        By Wolfman

        America is about to be flushed down the toilet

        Obama is a socialist. This has finally been confirmed. It was confirmed by Obama himself in his conversation with Joe the plumber.

        Obama doesn???t like the constitution. He also said so on tape. When the constitution is flushed down the toilet, America as we have known it is gone. The redistribution of wealth can take place. Abortion will probably be legal and probably not subject to change. Freedom of speech will go away. You, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and John McCain will not be free to say what they want to say. Health care will be subject to government regulation. Guns will be restricted or outlawed. You won???t appreciate the constitution until it???s gone. My hope is that if the constitution goes, the people who voted for Obama will realize that the constitution was a treasure, and that they made a terrible mistake. Also, it would be nice if people would take a good look into what may happen, and decide to hold off on ???CHANGE???.

        Obama will appoint judges. When he appoints enough Supreme Court judges, the Supreme Court will be able to legislate from the bench. They will determine what the constitution means in THEIR view, and you will live with their decisions.

        I would like to point out some things about ???spreading the wealth???. The part of the 95% of taxpayers that don???t pay taxes will get money. I call that welfare, and I predict you will see welfare like you???ve never seen before. Those on welfare will relax, and attempt to get more money. It???s the duty of the rich to make those on welfare comfortable. Black people will collect, be militant, and antisocial. If this is a racist statement, so be it. Unwed mothers and broken families will not go away. Spreading the wealth is not for the common good.

        People are not stupid, but they can be duped, fooled, and manipulated. Hitler duped, fooled, and manipulated the people. The problem we are facing now is that people are being duped, fooled, and manipulated.

        What are ???WE??? going to do? ???WE??? aren???t going to do anything. ???YOU??? had better figure out what ???YOU??? are going to do.

        In God we trust.

        http://www.msnusers.com/WolfmanFriends/messages.msnw

    • Posted By: brittanybear @ 10/26/2008 12:29:41 AM

      Wow... You really think Obama is a terrorist? I looked terrorist up on dictionary.com and here is the result. Terrorist- a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities. The frequent use of the word "terrorist/terrorism" has become such a sexy political buzz word -- and ultimately lost its true meaning. It funny to me that Obama has only tried to bring our country together with hope, not fear or religion. I have heard nothing but fear about America becoming communist, socialist from republicans. It is not just about the bridge. I will agree with you on that. It is about getting people what they need to live happy fulfilled lives.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 5:23:14 PM

        Obama associates with socialists, communists, Muslims, and criminals. Bill Ayers is a communist, says he is a communist, and was on FoxNews Saturday, October 25, 2008 wearing a shirt with a big red star on it that covered the front of his body. A red star is a symbol of communism. Fidel Castro is a communist. He used violence. Bill Ayers used violence when he bombed the Pentagon AND several other places. Osama's friends used violence when they ran an airplane into the Pentagon. Obama's associates and allies use violence. I don't call him a terrorist. I call him unfit.

  • Posted By: ketchikankid @ 10/26/2008 12:22:25 AM

    I am so very happy to see that this has finally made people have a conversation on politics.....ask yourself this???? did the last four years have a majority of democrates? I will answer that one for you the Democrates voted to pass the Bridge to Nowhere..They were the majority and they passed it with the Republican party.I was born and lived in Ketchikan for the first 18 years of my life. I left there in 1986 and visit frequntly. I know that the community needed to have a better way to make it to the airport. Who out in real America has to wait for a ferry to get to their airport???? It is not only the fact that traveling to the airport is difficult it also the fact that Ketchikan has very little area to build..unless of course you want to build on one of the many granite encrusted lots that takes you weeks and weeks to drill and dynamite to get down to a surface that can be built on. The politicians in our government dont work for you and I ....they work to get re-elected the next year....WhenTed Stevens added this Bridge to the package he did it for his state.....this would bring jobs and infrastructure to an Alaskan community....Don't think your Senator or Congressman hasn't done the same for your state as well. Earmarks are a way of life in D.C, and the American people pay for it!! I say to you!!!! Stand up for your rights......quit voting party lines like you do every election year! Vote for the person who will shake up government......Who believes what you believe.....Read between the lines and vote AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    I think a new party needs to rise up to the occassion a party that stands for the people of the USA...let us call it the AMERICAN party.....

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/26/2008 12:37:45 AM

      It shouldn't be an earmark. If its legitimate, and I don't say isn't, it should have its own bill.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/28/2008 10:06:19 AM

        We need more people like you.

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