The View From ‘Nowhere’

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  • Posted By: cetj99708 @ 10/25/2008 11:47:28 PM

    Mayor Kiffer, well said! I'm also from an island with a bridge to "nowhere" - Kodiak, which got a bridge to Near Island when the city harbor needed to expand, and had nowhere else to go. Now there is a harbor on Near Island, with plenty of room for the fishing fleet and the rest of the community. Mayor Kiffer, do yourself a favor. Vote for Obama, that's what most Native Alaskans will do, even if the white majority does vote republican as usual.

    • Posted By: akresident @ 10/26/2008 1:05:17 AM

      Give me a break!!! Are you seriously going to make this a racial issue??? Unless the vote is split by 2 electoral votes Alaska's vote won't even factor into the presidential election. This is not a White, Native issue this is an Alaskan issue. I find it hard to believe that we can't all come together and stand behind something as an Alaskan community not a white VS Alaskan Native. Get a CLUE this is something every Alaska resident should fight for on the behalf of Ketchikan and it's outlying communities. Don't make these things about your race or my race make them about a community that needs help and our support. I am sick to death of the racial crap surrounding the whites and the Alaskan Native communities in Alaska, stop it today for the better of all of Alaska and her people.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 4:38:11 PM

        I for one, do not do what you tell me to do. I don't take your advice. You wasted your time on me.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 4:35:31 PM

      Yes, indeed, vote for Obama, who associates with socialists, communists, Muslims, and criminals. Vote for the guy who helped get mortgages that ended up in foreclosure. Vote for the guy who lent himself to ACORN so that voters were registered 72 times. After you vote for him, what if you get NOTHING? Obama and Osama have one thing in common; they both have friends that bombed the pentagon.

  • Posted By: RussellCreek @ 10/25/2008 11:55:43 PM













































    Thirty five years ago I worked on the construction of the airport on Gravina Island. It was true then, and is apparently true now that few people lived on the side of Tongass Narrows away from Ketchikan. It certainly was not because peole were satisfied with living on a restricted little shelf lf of land with virtually no land upon which to purchase, build or otherwise use. Gravina island is nearly a paradise when one considers the needs of the people confined on the other side of the Narrows. They needed that land opened up to them in the same way that areas in the American west needed land opened opened up for farming, mining, homesteading, etc. Amd in each of these, means of transportation were the projects, almost always at govenment expense, that enabled the land to be moved upon and utilized. There is no differences between the 18th, 19th, and 20th century expansions onto unusused, but desired ane needed land and the instant situation. Of course the proposed bridge is a "bridge to nowhere if Gravina Island is evaluated only on its present development status. But, if its potential is the criteria for evaluation. including the needs for the people of Ketchican and other Ameroicans who might to settle there, the description of "nowhere becomes one that is simply, and functionally wrong. It is like demeaning the seed of a Hemlock or
    Stka Spruce because they are puny little things and don't lok much like trees. If they were 150 ' tall, they could be seen as something of real value, but until then ...

    We in Alaska need these kinds of projects to open up our country in he same way that the "South 48' needed the railroads or the inerstate highways or the river locks, etc. to open up country for expansion and use in the1700's, 1800's and 1900's. No difference except both temporal and spatial differences.


    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 4:28:13 PM

      You don't NEED the bridge, you Want the bridge. The ferry is fine.

    • Posted By: xnavyproud @ 10/26/2008 12:46:13 AM

      Every state west off the Mississippi has got the same kind of problems. The Democrats wouldn't allow the size of the homesteads to be increased. The ranchers/farmers couldn't make it dry land farming with that small amount of land. So...the Democrats started the Bureau of Land Management. to control grazing of cattle. Now they are killing off the wild horses so that they won't compete with the cattle. Stupid! It's like when they started killing the wolves in Alaska. The type "A" wolves were actually controlling the population. With the type "A"s killed off, the breeding ran amok, and the population started increasing at an exponential rate. Which leads one to believe that if one doesn't know exactly what one is doing, it may be better to do nothing.

  • Posted By: jrrags @ 10/25/2008 11:56:32 PM

    It sure is nice to see someone come out and tell it like it is. nice going mayor. i lived in alaska for 20 years and dont think we up there had any problem with the bridge. kinda nice instead of a ferry. bob

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 4:24:00 PM

      How much are you willing to contribute towards the bridge, or do you want to use other people's money?

  • Posted By: colorodan @ 10/26/2008 12:00:39 AM

    Sam 244, you don't know what you're talking about when you estimate "a couple dozen people a day" would use a bridge from Ketchican to Gravina Island. As Mayor Kiffer wrote, 250,000 people pass through the Ketchican Airport every year, and those who are not merely connecting to another flight, which they would more likely do in Anchorage, have to get across to the town for lodging. I stood in a long line behind well more than "a couple dozen" people late at night when I flew into Ketchican to connect with the Alaska Marine Highway. I would take a wild guess that you're a "drill baby drill" kind of guy. Keep in mind that building communities on wild terrain like Alaska's requires a little more engineering than in the lower 48.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 4:21:50 PM

      I would guess that you are a "spead the wealth" welfare type.

  • Posted By: mikemcvay @ 10/26/2008 12:28:50 AM

    Good Job Dave Kiffer. It's nice to hear the sensible voice of reason, instead of the rantings of political footballers. Keep it up. You'll get that bridge yet.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 4:11:03 PM

      I don't think he'll get it, because he wants someone else to pay for it.

  • Posted By: CrystalStaggs @ 10/26/2008 2:25:07 PM

    Another good point to make is that the cruise ships that come in to Ketchikan, via the Tongass Narrows, said the would SKIP Ketchikan if we built this bridge, casing a further decline in and already fractured economy. The fact is that town will crumble without the influx of tourists each summer. Instead of arguing about an effing bridge, why not look into LOCAL business opportunities instead of selling the entirety of down town to jewelry store conglomorates that don't put anything back into the community. Why not spend some of that earmarked money on what Ketchikan really needs. COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS. After school activities for kids from grade school to high school, some kind of alternative to the standard Ketchikan statistic: Sex, Drugs, Alcohol, Jail Time. Why not spark something other than a suicidal ambition in the younger generations. So people will actally want to stay in the community, raise a family. I lived in Ketchikan for 22 years. Went to school there, gradutated from Kayhi. A bridge to Gravina will NOT fix the problems Ketchikan has. A city and bourough government that has more interest in community then money will.

  • Posted By: ktnseak @ 10/26/2008 2:23:12 PM

    Some of us country bumpkins might consider these to be Bridges to Nowhere, The Brooklyn Bridge, Chesapeake Bay Bridge, the bridges of the Florida Keys, all of the bridges crossing the Mississippi River, The Golden Gate.
    Wasilla, Ak was a Nowhere until Sarah was nominated, but there was no mention of the proposed Knik Arm Bridge (the other half of the bridges to No Where earmark) to her hometown, in her acceptance speech. Wasilla is somewhere to Sarah. To her Ketchikan is not. Nowhere is as much perception as reality, it just depends upon which shore you are standing. Personally, I don't favor the bridge, but I really resent Ms. Palin's portrayal of my hometown on the state and national stage. And while I am on the other side of this issue from Dave, I do support his statement, we are somewhere.

  • Posted By: Fed-up-In-K-Town @ 10/26/2008 1:27:43 PM

    Dave Kiffer does not speak for me or anyone I know that lives here in Ketchikan. The bridge may have been a viable option 30 years ago, but that ship has sailed and the crybabies really need to get over it. There is NO GOOD REASON to build a bridge. I use the airport ferry several times a year and it works just fine. However, we could use a decent shelter for the folks that walk on, and possibly a conveyor belt to help with luggage.

    "What also went unstated was our town's need for development." Oh, that's rich. It's also ridiculous considering the multitude of properties for sale on this side of the channel. We also have the property at Ward Cove, site of the former pulp mill. It's also at Ward Cove where a derelict fishing boat lies half submerged at the opening of a spawning creek. This boat slowly sank for weeks and nothing was done to stop it. Our local government does a lousy job. They want hundreds of millions of dollars for a little convenience while folks in the borough still use catchment systems for water... all the while paying too-high property taxes and traveling on broken down, DANGEROUS roads and street bridges.

    "The media reports never seemed to mention that Ketchikan has a year-round population of 14,000???making it the fourth-largest community in the state." I'm going to have to call BS on this as well. Ketchikan has been dwindling since the pulp mill closed. I have lived here 15 years and I've never seen as many for-sale signs as I do now. What a joke, too bad I'm not laughing.

    And what the hell are you people smoking that think we need Gravina for new business? There are many, many empty spaces and closing businesses in Ketchikan. It's just another lame excuse and you all look like childfren stomping your feet and crying about your long lost promised bridge. Again, you need to get over it, move on, and fix Ketchikan.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/26/2008 1:27:00 PM

    Yes, Americans should invest in IRONY. That stock is though the roof since hockey mom Sarah Palin started strutting her stuff in $5,000 ruby colored shoes.

    And the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska's largest paper, has just endorsed Barack Obama for President.

    The IRONY stocks go up, up, up!

  • Posted By: Choman @ 10/25/2008 5:14:04 PM

    littledogs1
    The old saying ???Be careful what you wish for you might get it??? may apply here.
    If Obama is elected I would not be surprised as Biden said that we are tested with an international crisis, only this will be a world wide collapse of markets. It will be a result of unemployment unseen in this country since the 1930s.
    Being a small business operator, when Obama and Biden insist I do my patriotic duty and take the hard earned profits from my company and pay it in taxes so that the government can give it to people that did not earn it, it will not make my bills and expenses disappear nor will I be able to raise my prices because that would mean the loss of some clients completely so I will be forced to let go of staff just like all the small business with 10,000,000 or less in revenue. These are the companies that more than half of all Americans work for. 6% unemployment will look great in two years. Obama???s promise that only people making 250,000 or more will see a tax increase will go by the wayside as he tries to raise funds to pay the added burden and everyone who still has work will be paying more in taxes. This is probably what Biden meant when he said that they would need your support because it would not appear that they were doing the right thing when the test came.

    • Posted By: sueinmn @ 10/25/2008 5:30:33 PM

      if you did your homework, Obama merely wants to reverse the bush tax plan and McCain desires to make the bush plan permanent. Obama stands for the plan we had back in the Clinton days. those days money was easy and jobs were plentiful. The rich can pay their share for a change as the middle man is becoming a thing of the past with more and more jobs dissappearing. If we dont get relief at the medium level you rich will have to support us all! as the middle man will be on welfare also.

      • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 10:34:53 AM

        "Spread the wealth around", is that what you beieve?

      • Posted By: latachia_2 @ 10/25/2008 6:20:51 PM

        Well said!

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 12:37:41 AM

      You sound like a Capitalist to me, and I like capitalism! You may be just making this up, but if you are, you fooled me.

    • Posted By: Beargirl @ 10/25/2008 5:32:16 PM

      Choman ,
      You are so right. The biggest problem we face is that the people that don't pay taxes get to vote on how much tax the people who work get to pay. And the number grows whenever, liberal democrats and Rhinos get elected.

    • Posted By: Keepinguponfacts123 @ 10/25/2008 5:33:55 PM

      Do you know all of this for fact or are you just making this up? I think you are just making this up. Please stop unless you have facts. Because most of us decide only on facts.

      • Posted By: notw @ 10/25/2008 7:05:14 PM

        Yes, Choman has the facts right

  • Posted By: NewsweakEditor @ 10/26/2008 1:59:07 AM

    @c4tys

    You truly are ignorant my friend. The best you can do is summarize a person by labeling them a communist, that's pretty freaking weak. The damn story (if you noticed) isn't even about Obama. But you don't really care about that being is all you have to do is troll boards like this all day and night. I never collected food stamps and go to work everyday. So go back to listening to your hypocritical drug addicted Rush Limbaugh and memorize some more of his hate spewing rhetoric. It's a beautiful country and I can vote for whomever I wish and no matter how many renecks like you that spew this hate you can't do a damn thing about and if you don't like it get the hell out of the country yourself.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:35:30 AM

      You curse and use foul language. You sound like a guy that don't think, but go on how you feel. You sound like a "spread the wealth" type.

    • Posted By: bgerard2 @ 10/26/2008 3:05:07 AM

      Posted By: NewsweakEditor @ 10/26/2008 1:59:07 AM
      Comment: @c4tys
      "You truly are ignorant my friend. The best you can do is summarize a person by labeling them a communist, that's pretty freaking weak." -- Well ahh a socialist isn't far off from being a communist is it? Well here is proof that Obama is a freakin' socialist at the very least and it hints at being him being a communist as well.... And being a socialist country IS NOT what our great forefathers envisioned nor what is laid out for us in our Bill of Rights and constitution. Socialism is a lost cause along with Barack Insane and will only lead America down the path to obscurity and eventual collapse. It is not the answer. Evidence: http://www.theurbangrind.net/?p=3231 Pull your head of your hind end...

  • Posted By: ketchikankid @ 10/26/2008 2:06:10 AM

    I am so very happy to see that this has finally made people have a conversation on politics.....ask yourself this???? did the last four years have a majority of democrates? I will answer that one for you the Democrates voted to pass the Bridge to Nowhere..They were the majority and they passed it with the Republican party.I was born and lived in Ketchikan for the first 18 years of my life. I left there in 1986 and visit frequntly. I know that the community needed to have a better way to make it to the airport. Who out in real America has to wait for a ferry to get to their airport???? It is not only the fact that traveling to the airport is difficult it also the fact that Ketchikan has very little area to build..unless of course you want to build on one of the many granite encrusted lots that takes you weeks and weeks to drill and dynamite to get down to a surface that can be built on. The politicians in our government dont work for you and I ....they work to get re-elected the next year....WhenTed Stevens added this Bridge to the package he did it for his state.....this would bring jobs and infrastructure to an Alaskan community....Don't think your Senator or Congressman hasn't done the same for your state as well. Earmarks are a way of life in D.C, and the American people pay for it!! I say to you!!!! Stand up for your rights......quit voting party lines like you do every election year! Vote for the person who will shake up government......Who believes what you believe.....Read between the lines and vote AMERICAN!!!!!!!
    I think a new party needs to rise up to the occassion a party that stands for the people of the USA...let us call it the AMERICAN party.....

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:29:53 AM

      What a crock! Ted Stevens et al requested an earmark. No voting. Just request the earmark and bingo the deal is done, if the request is granted.

  • Posted By: westlongislander @ 10/26/2008 2:12:11 AM

    Dear Mayor Kiffer,
    I hope that you and your constituents will take some comfort from knowing that not everyone in the lower 48 got lost in the "earmarks" and Palin controversey. A few of us had good geography courses and knew of the historic importance and peculiar location of Kethcikan, and were able to understand the importance of the bridge.
    Meanwhile, you have written a splendid brief for the bridge, one that is remarkably lacking in bitterness. It should persuade a lot of people and even leave some of them with red faces. I wish you luck in finding funds for your bridge to somewhere. Maybe Gov. Palin could pledge a percentage of revenue from any new drilling pursuant to her "Drill Baby, Drill" theme.

    Best wishes,
    Dan Derby

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:26:47 AM

      You sound like the "spread the wealth around" type.

  • Posted By: reasterbrooks @ 10/26/2008 2:27:53 AM

    I am a resident of Anchorage. I can attest that the bridge was needed. There is also another bridge that is badly needed that would cross the inlet from Anchroage to the land just 2 miles away. Anchorage is out of land to build on and a bridge would open up tens of thousands of acres just out of reach. It would also provide a quick route for those who live in Wasilla and Palmer a way to access Anchorage and reduce gas consumpton. This is an example of how the media twists a story to protray it in such a way as to promote their own agenda. Many in the "lower 48" do not understand the unique challenges we have in our state. We do not have the infrastructure that you probably take for granted.

    Robert

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:19:40 AM

      I differ. The bridge was "wanted". It was NOT "needed". A ferry IS doing the job.

  • Posted By: firetheprincipal @ 10/26/2008 2:42:17 AM

    (CNN) -- Vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin likes to portray herself as an average American working mother.
    But how many typical moms get $150,000 worth of merchandise from stylish stores and have strangers pay for it?

    This week's revelation about the purchases was just one more surprise in the fast rise and apparent fall of the Republican Party's sudden superstar.

    Remember, it was only two months ago that Palin was just the popular governor of Alaska, still an obscure figure in American politics. That changed in late August when John McCain chose her as his running mate.

    Within days, she was generating the biggest excitement the McCain campaign had ever enjoyed, captivating the Republican Party, swelling the crowds at its rallies and drawing media coverage that overshadowed the Democrats.

    One McCain advisor told me then that one of the practical problems she discovered as she criss-crossed the country was that she didn't bring enough clothes.

    It seems her family didn't have enough clothes either, because suddenly there was some serious shopping.

    A single visit to the fashionable department store Neiman Marcus cost more than $75,000, but that was only half of the total. The bills ultimately went to the Republican Party, which means that although they probably didn't know it, party donors paid for them.

    Palin's problems go beyond clothes, though, to her very candidacy. In recent days, prominent Republicans, from former Secretary of State Colin Powell to Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan, have publicly criticized her lack of experience.

    Ordinary Americans agree. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found that in early September, when Palin was just starting out as a candidate, 47 percent of voters had a positive opinion of her, compared to 27 percent who felt negatively.

    Now 47 percent have negative feelings, compared with 38 percent who feel positively.

    And the new poll found that concern about Palin's qualifications is voters' top concern about McCain, ahead of every other issue in the election.

    Voting day is less than two weeks away and most polls suggest that Barack Obama is headed for victory. The surprise is that Palin went from being McCain's best asset to his biggest problem. And the Republicans don't have much time, or an obvious way, to fix it.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:16:31 AM

      Obama's major associations are with socialists, communists, Muslims, and criminals. He wants to "spread the wealth around". It may turn out that there may be no wealth to spread. In that case, he got your vote for free.

  • Posted By: NiqueD @ 10/26/2008 3:10:04 AM

    dimitri is correct. Why should the lower 48 pay for a bridge to enhance tourism and hunting/fishing for a town that size when the State of Alaska is giving their citizens oil profit sharing and tax exemptions and Palin never stops bragging about what good shape Alaska is in while the rest of the country is in a recession and has been for several years now despite what Bush says.

    You have all this money, you have a "reformer" who claims she "gets things done" at the cheapest price (which is repeatedly proven not to have been the case) and you claim to be hardy independent people who hate the people from places like California who pay FAR FAR more in tax dollars than they get back from Washington (Incidentally Neocon idiots, do you even know that 8 states pay more in than they get back in taxes, while 12 get about the same back as they put in and the other 30 states take the welfare money from California, New York, etc.. and get MUCH more back in Federal money to YOUR state than you paid in. In FACT, EVERY SINGLE SOUTHERN STATE GETS BACK AT LEAST6 TWICE IN FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS THEIR CITIZENS PAY IN FEDERAL TAXES, You're always running your mouths about "independence" and no welfare and no govt handouts and YET you are the worst in the country at taking HANDOUTS. The South is the worst, the midwest is next. So just stop your Neocon bullshirt and get real for once. If they want the damn bridge they have the moneyt to pay for it themselves and you neocon tax welfare slime need to shut up. You weren't paying for the bridge anyhow. Taxpayers in 8 states were and Palin out and out stole the money.

    Oh and by the way, I live in Oklahoma, a poor state. I don't want my tax dollars going to Alaska to pay for a bridge they can afford to pay for themselves when 83% of our bridges are considered unsafe or near unsafe status.

    SHUT THE HELL UP FOR ONCE NEOCONS AND SPEND SOME TIME LEARNING ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM AND WHERE IT GOES. AND GET OFF THE TAXPAYER WELFARE AND PAY YOUR OWN WAY IN YOUR OWN STATE. CRACKERS.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:09:40 AM

      You sound like a "spread the wealth" type. You sound nasty, and don't use common sense. You are controlled by emotions.

  • Posted By: tkainz @ 10/26/2008 3:33:22 AM

    While Kiffer makes some compelling arguments the one comment that really bothers me is the one referencing the fact that earmarks "only" make up 1% of the budget. Well, one percent of hundreds of billions of dollars is a hell of a lot of money and money which should not have to be spent. ANY earmark is unacceptable. If a government official wants or needs money for a project they should have to request it and it should be voted on - after the public has been duly informed. This cavalier attitude about money by the government has got to stop, The government should have to balance their budget just like I have to balance mine - enough is enough.

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 9:03:51 AM

      You have good common sense, which is lacking in a lot of people in this country.

  • Posted By: alaskanntexas @ 10/26/2008 3:45:13 AM

    I have been to many of the small towns and larger towns in Alaska And I do not forget the reason for the purchace of Alaska was for from the Russians. For our defence from other countries. I dont think that any one knows that one one of our great battles during one of the world wars was on Alaskan soil defending us from the commies. How many other areas of Amercan soil have had a war break out on in the last 80 years besides Pearl Harbor. We defended that part of the country strong and no one has tried to do it again. Alaska
    is a great part of the United States that "we" Americas use daily. Lets not forget the Seafood industries, mineral industries, the oil industries and with the future to come, the fresh water industries. It has been in the plans for other lower states to use the fresh water that flows from the mighty rivers that flow into the oceans from Alaskas mountains. Will the pipe-lines for fresh water be pumped to states like California and Nevada or other states that will need fresh water in our future. I would think so. Will that water be pushed from hubs in small towns as such in this discusion. I would think so, if California wants water. Will transportion reasons go up in Ketchikan. I would also think so because this would end up being one of the larger pump hubs in S.E. Alaska.
    Or are we prepared to pay more for water than we our for gas. Looks like we are all ready doing such. Dissanti water from Coke costs about $5 per Gallon if you buy at retailers price. You can get 2 gallons of good drinking water for about $5 at at Sam's or Costco, but you will need a membership. We have to look at the future and not politics for this reason.
    How many Billons of $ have been spent on our boys and girls dying in a land that we are not welcomed in?
    For the price of oil.
    We need to spend money in Alaska like we do everywhere else for reasons other then everyone else.
    Lets think what Alaska haves to offer, Besides Voting rights and someone that no one has heard of in the lower states' Pallin"

    • Posted By: Wolf Wolfman @ 10/26/2008 8:56:45 AM

      We need to spend money in Alaska like we do everywhere else for reasons other then everyone else.
      Lets think what Alaska haves to offer, Besides Voting rights and someone that no one has heard of in the lower states' Pallin"

      This is almost incoherant. I get the sense that you are a "spread the wealth" type, but you sound like you have a mental problem.

    • Posted By: Ron406 @ 10/26/2008 4:03:18 AM

      Alaskanntexas: We did not fight the commies in Alaska but we did fight the Japanese in WW2 in the Aleautian Islands ... it was the only invasion of the Continental US since the WAR of 1812. I spent most of my youth stationed at radar sites during the 1960's in Alaska defending the US from the bombers from the soviets.....I challenge any of the lower 48 guys to spend a year on an island so small you could toss a rock from one side to another only a few miles from Russia.... no trees ... no women.... wind all the time and nothing but a few radar towers on it... Shemya....the garden spot of Alaska

      • Posted By: akresident @ 10/26/2008 5:29:41 AM

        My Grandfather was stationed on Attu Island during WWII. It is a desolate HELL hole. Shemya,cape yakataga,st. paulst. george,and all of those saint islands in the bering sea are just a few of the places I would put the hose to give the world an enema my hats offto you for even spending a week let alonea year on that piece of alaskan real estate , gotta love the white alice sites.

      • Posted By: alaskanntexas @ 10/26/2008 4:51:04 AM

        Were they not commies at that time?
        I was figuring that any one we have to fight, would be a commie.
        And hard to figure that the fellow who designed the fuel reading system to drop the bombs on Japan was a Alaskan. If it was not for him, Leonard Lowell, we might be speaking some language I can not understand. But thank you for the correction.
        I did know that the area was one of the only spots on American soil to have an invasion of a foreign country.
        And I do know why we purchased Alaska.
        To this day, Alaska stands as one of our great defenses for our great country.
        Will we be spending more of our tax dollars in Alaska in the future. I sure hope so

  • Posted By: NiqueD @ 10/26/2008 5:19:24 AM

    You're pretty funny Ron. You completely ignore the truth that Alaska has the surplus to pay for their own damn bridge and choose to do the common garden variety neocon hate then claim others are being "disrespectful'. There is nothing I could say or do for the rest of my life (and I'm 23) that could ever equal the amount of ignornace, hate and stupidity that you neocons spew on a daily basis.

  • Posted By: specttr @ 10/26/2008 4:45:56 AM

    An interesting story and I abhor broken promises as much as anyone else, but that does not change the fact that this whole project was a complete waste of money. Apparently the government built the airport in the wrong place. OK, a pity, but why should the taxpayers in oher states have throw good money after bad to the tune of 400 Million to fix it?
    And like many other commentators, I still don't understand what is so wrong with that ferry. It is old an poorly maintained? Buy new ones and start maintainng them properly! That would cost a fraction of that 400 million. If you miss one, you might miss your flight? Give me a break. Try planning your trip with some common sense. Everybody runs that risk, whether it is due to missng ferries, delayed trains or raffick jams. That's why sensible people make sure they have plenty of time to check in.
    It costs money? Oh Boohoo, so does a train ticket, or gas and that bridge wouldn't be free either. I shudder to think what he tolls would have to be like to make up for the price and incidentally, that bridge has to be maintained too. Any idea how much that would cost in the long run? Not to mention the jobs that would be lost whan that ferry service collapses as wil inevitably do.

    • Posted By: akresident @ 10/26/2008 5:20:46 AM

      Please see my earlier comment... The ferry has a crew of 2 wow that is alot of jobs lost. Don't boohoo me, you can't possibly understand the gravity of the situation. Where are you from California, New York?!?!?! See earlier discribed weather conditions, health issue, women with new born infants, I could go on and on. I believe you only see wat you want to see. The issue is your close minded attitude not the bridge and the good it would do the Ketchikan Gateway Borough. The issue is an Alaskan issue and eventually Ketchikan will get there bridge with or without your namby pamby wishy washy lower 48 BS. I have said it before and I will continue to say it, if you'd leave us alone to support ourselves the way we know we can we would't need you at all. You use Alaska tax dollars and we don't complain about the way you spend or money. Let us have money for a project that will support the future of our communities and our children. If a road is opened up to Gravina businesses can open and possibly thrive on this little island and Ketchikan will be able to allow its children to support themselves and build a futue at home.

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