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  • Posted By: jfennerlaw@bellsouth.net @ 10/25/2008 6:01:34 PM

    "Between a Naval hero...and an unproven lawyer from Illinois", I would have voted for Lincoln.

    • Posted By: mrjungles @ 10/25/2008 6:06:25 PM

      Nice.
      'O Captain, my Captain!' :)

  • Posted By: TheVigil @ 10/25/2008 5:56:48 PM

    Between a naval hero and longstanding Congressman and an unproven lawyer from Illinois...

    Who would you vote for?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwhk1thFzGs

  • Posted By: jhop1104 @ 10/25/2008 5:28:04 PM

    Clearly people have no knowledge of what socialism really is? Obama isn't anywhere near being a socialist. People should ask themselves what have the Bush tax cuts that have been in affect for the last eight years done for them? The answer absoultely NOTHING!

    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 5:33:20 PM

      Quite a bit until the Dem's years of undercuting the foundations of sound lending practices with the Community Reinvestment Act and enforcement litigation by groups like ACORN against the banks undercut the real estate market and the financial markets.

      • Posted By: mrjungles @ 10/25/2008 5:45:22 PM

        Beg Pardon? The Community Reinvestment Act was enacted during President Carter's term in office. By my math that is longer ago than the last 8 years. Don't try to blame the financial mess we are in on the current Democratic Congress -that's ridiculous. Even all the blathering I hear about the Gram Leech Bliley act on here is turtle twinkies... that happened during the Republican congressional years when Clinton was president. The blame goes around, but the foundation of the mess we are in is the deregulation that was started by Reagan and has been perpetuated by the Repubs every chance they have gotten. This was even confirmed by Greenspan the other day. Some of us do have memories. Sorry.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:27:40 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

    • Posted By: mrjungles @ 10/25/2008 5:30:19 PM

      Vote Now, seriously. CAN THE SPAM! Let the repubs play that game. Back me up here people.

      • Posted By: wearefla @ 10/25/2008 5:41:23 PM

        Yes, these repetitive copy and paste jobs spoil it for evryone, makes these forums useless! CAN THE SPAM!!!

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:27:31 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:26:46 PM

    After 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

    Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

    Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 TRILLION of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

    Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

    Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

    Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

    And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

    In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:26:38 PM

    After 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

    Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

    Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 TRILLION of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

    Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

    Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

    Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

    And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

    In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:26:26 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:26:16 PM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:26:00 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/25/2008 5:25:52 PM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: Fernadez @ 10/25/2008 5:22:34 PM

    Some McCain aides say they had little choice with a candidate who simply wasn't ready for the national stage, and that Palin didn't forcefully object. Moments that Palin's allies see as triumphs of instinct and authenticity â?????? the Wright suggestion, her objection to the campaign's pulling out of Michigan â?????? they dismiss as Palin's "slips and miscommunications," that is, her own incompetence and evidence of the need for tight scripting.

    But Palin partisans say she chafed at the handling.

    "The campaign as a whole bought completely into what the Washington media said ??? that she's completely inexperienced," said a close Palin ally outside the campaign who speaks regularly to the candidate.

    100% AGREED WITH Republican comments

  • Posted By: Fernadez @ 10/25/2008 5:21:04 PM

    Some McCain aides say they had little choice with a candidate who simply wasn't ready for the national stage, and that Palin didn't forcefully object. Moments that Palin's allies see as triumphs of instinct and authenticity â?????? the Wright suggestion, her objection to the campaign's pulling out of Michigan â?????? they dismiss as Palin's "slips and miscommunications," that is, her own incompetence and evidence of the need for tight scripting.

    But Palin partisans say she chafed at the handling.

    "The campaign as a whole bought completely into what the Washington media said ??? that she's completely inexperienced," said a close Palin ally outside the campaign who speaks regularly to the candidate.

    IM 100% agreed with REPUBLICAN comments

  • Posted By: dunnhaupt @ 10/25/2008 5:03:53 PM

    After eight disastrous Republican years, if the Democrats still do not win this time, it will be entirely due to the prevalent racism, and I give up on considering America a civilized nation.

    • Posted By: HAL--- @ 10/25/2008 5:15:05 PM

      Exactly.

      See:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

  • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 10/25/2008 4:37:55 PM

    Meid-care, medi-caid, and social security have already been cut. I know I got the memo . I am the one to explain why the feds did this. Like I said the democrats are in control. They are the ones destroying the country with more disaster to come. I will have increased taxes even though I don't make 250K. Why? Because I am single. McCain would have worked with the dems to build the economy. Now our only hope is that the repubs got control of the house and senate. Then there will be hope for the future.

    • Posted By: mrjungles @ 10/25/2008 5:13:20 PM

      For you to have higher taxes under Obama's plan because of being single, you would have to make over $200,000, so I would say you're doing ok... If you make over 200k I'm also assuming you are not on medicaid, so that would explain why you are voting for McCain. Blaming Pelosi and co. is convenient, but not very accurate, as anything they wrote, still needed to pass the Republican Senate, and manage to not get veotoed by W, so that is largely why nothing has been done over the last two years. I do not feel that one party having control of all three sections of Givernment is a great idea, but it will give the Dems a chance to prove if they are srious about change or not. If it happens, the clock will start on Jan 20th, and they had better get some things done, or they will suffer some wrath in 2010, and I will be in agreement 100%.

  • Posted By: littlemissunshine @ 10/25/2008 4:43:24 PM

    Why would are we the American people even considering for president a man who refused to be sworn in with the Bible and insisted on the Koran but claims he is a Christian; attended the church of a hate mongering paster for years but does no longer wants to be affiliated with; who entered a member of the Weather Underground prosecuted for bombing federal property in his living room but would like us to believe is just an aquaintance; who has financially supported an organization now under investigation for voter registration fraud and sent even more money to a terrorist regime in Africa - Mr. Obama there are citizens in this country that can deduce from these facts that you have no business representing the interests of America here or abroad regardless of how you have tried to skirt these issues!

    • Posted By: mrjungles @ 10/25/2008 5:05:42 PM

      Hey everyone! it's the nice old lady in the red shirt from the Obama rally! Hi there! still a bit confused I see... Maybe you should watch the video again of your candidate setting all of this 'he's a muslim' crap straight...

      • Posted By: mrjungles @ 10/25/2008 5:07:41 PM

        Oops, I meant from the McCain rally... lol, so much for that attempt at comedy... :)

    • Posted By: HAL--- @ 10/25/2008 4:49:48 PM

      No, it was Keith Ellison who used a Koran. Obama used a Bible. Since Ellison is Muslim and Obama isn't, this makes perfect sense.

      Get your facts straight: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

  • Posted By: littlemissunshine @ 10/25/2008 4:35:20 PM

    Obama is the only senator ever sworn into office who refused the Bible, insisting to use the Koran, yet claims to be a Christian; who attended a church led by a hate mongering pastor for years but no longer considers himself affiliated to; but has an aquaintance with a former member of the Weather Underground prosecuted for the bombing of federal property that he' can visit in the living room but not regard as a friend; who has
    supported Acorn with tens of thousands of dollars who is currently being investigated for voter registration fraud and has sent even more money to a terrorist regime in Africa but thinks he can represent the interests of Americans here and abroad - Mr. Obama there are citizens of this country who look at these facts and deduce that you have no business representing our country regardless of how well you have skirted the truth!

    • Posted By: HAL--- @ 10/25/2008 4:57:03 PM

      No, it was Keith Ellison who used a Koran. Obama used a Bible. Since Ellison is Muslim and Obama isn't, this makes perfect sense.

      Get your facts straight: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

  • Posted By: archmsu @ 10/25/2008 4:30:07 PM

    Obamas a Socialist...................I can't wait for him to win, because what's yours, is now mine. Mussilini would be proud!!!

    • Posted By: HAL--- @ 10/25/2008 4:40:02 PM

      Hey, I would rather everyone have a house of their own than one man have seven and some none.
      http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/obama-counts-mccains-houses/

      So, if hel[ping people makes me a socialist...I guess Im a socialist.

      Exactly how many hones does a man need to be comfortable? Exactly how does paying taxeson incomes over $250,000 hinder a person? It is this great land that allows you to prosper...show some appreciation and pay your damn tax.

  • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 10/25/2008 4:36:54 PM

    McCain has focused all his energy on trying to dismantle Obama's campaign that it backfired on him. Maybe he forgot about the clean politics he mentioned earlier at the start of the Presidential campaign...or better yet the issues. He probably forgot that Obama has faced a much tougher opponent than him...Hillary.

    Making last minute promises while continuing the negative approach has and will continue to benefited Obama. If there was any integrity left in McCain, he sold it years ago, pandering to Rovian style politics that got this country in the shithole to begin with.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 10/25/2008 1:54:26 PM

    I just stood on line, in the rain on a Saturday, for 45 minutes, to participate in early voting in North Carolina. According to the tally on the voting machine I turned my ballot into, so did 8000 other people - the machine next to it recorded another 8000.

    And as I left, I noticed the line was even longer now than when I stood on it earlier.

    Say what you want about our political system - it is wasteful, corrupt, and prone to vulgar excesses. All of that is true, and none of it matters.

    What matters at the end ot fhe day is we are government of the people, by the people. Power will transfer peacefully. It is truly a wonderful thing, and I was proud to participate. So was a young man behind me, a first time voter, his grandmother proudly explaining the ballot to him.

    I wonder what the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, China, Zimbabwe, and a dozen other countries would say if they saw that peaceful line? Would they look on in disbelief? Envy? I believe they would.

    In this rancorous, uneasy time, it is worth reflecting on how lucky we are to live in America.

    Please remember to vote.

    • Posted By: HAL--- @ 10/25/2008 4:05:03 PM

      Beautifully put...and Thank You.

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