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‘That Was Amateur Night’

Robert Gates dueled with the Soviets, but even he's daunted by today's challenges.

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  • Posted By: Krohn @ 11/02/2008 11:10:39 PM

    The Wall Street crisis was planned the night of Obama's meeting at Bill Ayres home to put Obama in The White House. Together they put a beautiful plan into place.

    This Strategy was first elucidated in the 1966 issue of 'The Nation' Magazine by a pair of radical Socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven.

    David Horowitz summarizes it as:

    "The strategy of forcing political change through an orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of Capitalism by overloading the Government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
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    Obama begin with ACORN by funneling millions into their organization. He then trained ACORN to stage protests in banks to force them to issue risky loans or they would be threatened to face racial charges. ACORN was trained to intimidate financial institutions into giving ???Ninja??? loans to people with NO assets, NO job and NO income, who couldn???t afford these loans.

    That caused the housing bubble two years ago it was by ACORN's actions they were able to destroy our credit system.

    As this played out, D-Barney Frank and D-Chris Dodd were able to cover up the millions of improvident loans to these bad risky house buyers. And Barney Frank and his chums successfully were able to block all of President Bush's attempts to put a rein on this problem.

    So Fannie & Freddie was forced to purchase all these failed subprime mortgages.

    Then both Frank and Dodd denied that there were any problems, and refused the Bush Admin. requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and they were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the 'minute they failed'.

    Democrats then blamed Bush saying it happened on his watch knowing it would hurt the Republican Party in the election setting it up that Barack Obama could use this to his advantage.

    Karl Marx once compared a Revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

    Barack Obama is that Marxist mole !

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/01/2008 5:18:46 PM

    WELL SAID BILL COSBY !!

    'They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.
    I can't even talk the way these people talk:
    Why you ain't,
    Where you is,
    What he drive,
    Where he stay,
    Where he work,
    Who you be...

    And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.

    And then I heard the father talk.

    Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads.
    You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth.

    In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

    People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now
    We've got these knuckleheads walking around.

    The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

    These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

    $500 sneakers for what?

    And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

    I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

    Where were you when he was 2?

    Where were you when he was 12?

    Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?

    And where is the father? Or who is his father?

    People putting their clothes on backward:
    Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

    People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something?

    Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?

    What part of Africa did this come from??

    We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa ...

    I say this all of the time. It would be like white people saying they are European-American. That is totally stupid.

    I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany , Scotland , England , Ireland , or the Netherlands . The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa . So stop, already! ! !

    With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap .....And all of them are in jail.

    Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

    We have got to take the neighborhood back.

    People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.

    We have millionaire football players who cannot read.

    We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks have to do a better job.

    Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.

    We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

    " We cannot blame the white people any longer."
    Dr. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed.D.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/01/2008 2:00:24 PM

    Two central issues in the election Barack Obama is wrong and misleading:

    1) No tax increases to those earning $250,000 or less promised by Obama, then he
    lowered this figure to $200,000, then the "Gift that keeps on Giving" Joe Biden says
    the number is $150,000 and just yesterday Gov. Bill Richardson says the figure is
    $120,000 ...and now a videotape is disclosed where it shows Obama recently stated
    that in the interest of fairness with taxes is around $80,000.00!!
    Sounds like good old fashion Democratic ???reverse auction ???tax policy they implement
    after they break their campaign promise to the American people.

    2) On national security ...Obama???s own VP running mate Joe Biden ... ???mark my words,
    this guy Obama is going to be tested by a generated international crisis within 6
    months of his Presidency..I guarantee it??? Obama will meet with USA's enemies with
    no pre-conditions!
    John McCain???s surge strategy in Iraq is working and its saving the lives of young
    American men and women in uniform serving there...Obama won't admit to this day
    the surge is working and he voted to cut funding for these military forces !!

    John McCain is Commander-In-Chief material ....Obama is just a cardboard "cut-out"
    candidate of the DNC.

  • Posted By: vippy @ 10/27/2008 1:07:07 PM

    Problem is the way I see it that the US gets involved with countries when they have something that is beneficial to the US. We would have never gone to Iraq if they did not have any oil. N Korea was a much more pressing issue but we ignored it. Why we are in Afghanistan, perhaps the pipeline needs to run through it, we are also in parts of Africa where they have oil.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 5:02:13 PM

    Cuba, Vietnam. Laos, Cambodia, Iran, Nicaragua, Somalia, Iraq. Let our friends, allies and the innocents die, by the millions if necessary. Just so long as they are not Americans. We are the Democratic Party, and for 50 years, from the Bay of Pigs to the Basra Highway and beyond, we have never met a fight we could not pressure our government to run away from, or friends and allies we could not abandon. It's the story of our generation. Only the French are more defeatist than we, but together America, we can change that and become number one. And its change we can believe in. Come on America, and vote Democrat. Together, we can re-live that pride we haven't felt since the 1970's. If we just blindly pull together, we really can make this like it is Jimmy Carter's lost second term. Yes we can!

    • Posted By: billysid57 @ 10/25/2008 8:13:21 PM

      Are you insane?

      • Posted By: LuigiGG @ 10/25/2008 8:20:42 PM

        Go back to school, Mr Nowforthetruth, and learn what truth is. It was Nixon and Kissinger who surrendered abjectly and unconditionally to North Vietnam. It is too late for Nixon, but Kissinger can still be tried for treason. And don't forget Reagan's surrneder to the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, after he had already committed treason himself by selling weapons to a sworn enemy of the United States (Iran).

        • Posted By: elpaulito @ 10/27/2008 8:22:22 AM

          It is all for not. We should not have been meddling in Vietnam, or any of those other places anyway. Why does the US think it needs to constantly get involved with other people's messes? We are over in the middle east with these corrupt regimes for years. How is that working out for us now?

      • Posted By: TheVigil @ 10/26/2008 1:57:42 PM

        He's a right-wing supporter. It's either supposed to be sarcasm or a smear. Probably some of both.

    • Posted By: Ken in WA @ 10/25/2008 10:07:43 PM

      With all the challenges we face today, our military is completely unprepared for any major aggressive action by our enemies. Thanks to the senseless war in Iraq, we have decimated our military. Instead of making us stronger, this REPUBLICAN administration has weakened us and emboldened our enemies. Wake up.

  • Posted By: mschrank @ 10/26/2008 12:34:22 AM

    I have lost all hope for America. We have lost our industry, our dignity, our humility, our respect, our wealth,our health,
    our soverenty,and most notably our leadship on every level. ITS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. Get rid of that stinking Bush,
    Mccain is no better, and forget Barrack osoma. Lets get some people that have run some large bussiness and some
    different military leaders to head up the country. Where have all the brains gone?

    • Posted By: elpaulito @ 10/27/2008 8:19:33 AM

      Haven't we already tried people fro this background? It didn't work. And if you listen to what Gates is saying is, "don't change anything you are doing. The pentagon budget is way up, and we want to keep it that way".

    • Posted By: elpaulito @ 10/27/2008 8:18:13 AM

      Haven't we already gone through having people from those backgrounds in leadership roles? It didn't work.

  • Posted By: attuong @ 10/26/2008 6:52:24 AM

    The world is more complex than ever in the history, If we want to survise we have to have the Strong Leader who understand the role of US toward the world.
    Most of the wars which US involved were from the "weak leader" of our goverment,except for the WWII. just look back to our war history in the past. US waiting until people try to run us over then they were response. If we are trong enough, nobody ever think to take advatages on us in any way, then the war won't be happened..
    The most important thing to deal with the complex world is to look into THE CULTURE of each country we deal with. Don't try to make people doing thing like we did.
    General George Patton quoted: "Tell them what to do, don't tell them how to do it".
    Just tell them we need a peaceful world.and let them do the rest, and do not interfere with the way they are doing it.

    US needs strong leader

  • Posted By: Kingsway @ 10/26/2008 12:04:15 AM

    The first thing this nation must do is retreat from the extreme partisanship of the past 45 years. The people of this country must really think of the welfare this nation is the only way to regain our self-respect both personally and nationally.

    I think Mr. Gates is talking about these same things, filtered through the reality that he is part of the present administration. The difficulties he discusses are just some of the challenges we face, but just like any long-term relation ship money troubles and mutual trust are the thing that must be dealt with first.

    The old saying that Money makes the world go around is so apt today because we as people and a nation have spent recklessly and the bill is coming due big-time. We are going to have to make sacrifices. During WWII, arguably one of our biggest challenges and success???s people lived with rationing of food, gasoline, and many other items and we survived, but one other thing we did was to pay for the war as we went by saving money that was used to fuel the 30 years of growth in the Post War period.

    I have no magic suggestion for our economic woes but starting to save instead of spending is a good place to begin.

    The military and security issues must be dealt with on real time basis as well as intelligent contingency planning that place more emphasis on diplomacy and strategic arm twisting with the help of as many allies with whom we can reestablish a sense of trust and co operation.

    The present strategy of making demands that must be met before negotiations can begin is not only counterproductive but actually heightens the tension and mistrust.

    The present situation in Iran a good example, most Americans are unaware the actual situation in the country, as I understand it, there are two main political faction, the extreme right wing religious faction and the more secular and moderate faction.[Sound Familiar]. If we can, re-establish limited diplomatic relations, with the first goal to reestablish communications without all the public and extreme rhetoric. Methods other than War are cheaper, a reality we must learn to accept.

    If anyone has reason to control the nuclear progress in Iran, it is Russia; they are only about 300 miles apart and I am sure they have better intelligence about the actual situation than our ideologically driven efforts.

    Mr. Gates is alluding to these situations, but I feel he is constrained by the present situation. In my opinion keeping him in place for a year or so is something the incoming administration.


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