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  • Posted By: GoreFan @ 10/26/2008 10:20:28 AM

    watchout if Stevens is forced to leave the senate. Governor Palin could name herself to replace him. Then she does have to go back to cold Alaska, but stay on the national stage. . She will leave the ethics issues behind and get the experience she needs. Working to help Republicans in 2010 elections, she will get IOUs. Then in 2016 she runs against Hillary.

  • Posted By: LDKRN @ 10/26/2008 5:44:39 AM

    "It may be Sarah Palin reinventing the Republican Party???not from the middle, but from the right."

    LOL, that's funny. Most Americans are not stupid white people, the kind that currently have stars in their eyes over Sarah Palin. While I expect that she will probably be a House candidate in the very near future, and will probably win the seat- and she may emerge the leader of the Pat Buchanan/Eric Rudolph/Tim McVeigh wing of the party, I don't see that garners her or the party a rebirth, frankly. It will be a while before she can reexert star power anyplace else, as you never get a first chance to make a first impression, and she's still not very bright-the minority and smart white person impression of her is that she is a fool.

    In other words, she may appeal to some of the people she appeals to now, and they may reward her with a leadership position within their circles-which is now and for the foreseeable future, the fringe.

    • Posted By: Vypurr @ 10/26/2008 10:12:25 AM

      Excuse me? Most Americans are not stupid white people?

      Take your racist hosresh!t somewhere else.

    • Posted By: Sassy Lady @ 10/26/2008 9:22:20 AM

      Yes, she shall return to Washington with Joe the Plummer!

  • Posted By: zaxxon @ 10/26/2008 10:10:35 AM

    And still no one talks about the million ton elephant in the room: American religious fundamentalism. Why?

  • Posted By: caraprado @ 10/26/2008 10:10:03 AM

    Palin Revealed: Unreflective, Impulsive and "Going Rogue" http://tinyurl.com/5tcrzz

  • Posted By: Dylan Rossi @ 10/26/2008 9:48:52 AM

    "It is only a matter of time before a candidate with A-list name recognition decides to make it a pet issue."

    Not likely. Jeb is the prohibitive favorite going into 2012. While he resides in FL and not in TX, he's likely to side with GW on this issue. And that was not were Republicans want to be.

    "Why not Palin? Unlike most top-tier Republican candidates, she owes very little to the party's business wing"

    Are you kidding? Did you see her wardrobe expense account? Seriously, though, part of Palin's charm is that she does not take on cultural issues.

    She even "tolerates" gays.

    Any Republican who runs to the cultural right will have to get through Jeb, first. And that's not going to happen for at least the next 12 years. By that time, illegal immigration will have evaporated as an issue. In fact, ol' white folks will be begging Mexicans to come across the border to take care of them and buy their houses.

  • Posted By: djcastel @ 10/26/2008 9:40:54 AM

    Sarah Palin is damaged goods. A losing VP candidate who was likely a major factor in her campaign's failure isn't going to turn into some national Republican superstar. Fundraising determines the primaries, and there's no way she'll raise the tens of millions necessary in 2012. There are plenty of folksy, social conservatives who aren't as intellectually limited as Gov. Palin, and can give much more cogent policy positions. Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty, to name a few.

    And no, Palin will not make a "Nixon comeback", as she was never remotely in the same league as VP Nixon, who narrowly lost the 1960 presidency only by virtue of some crooked votes in Texas and Illinois. Watch some of Nixon's public addresses on Vietnamization and other policies, and you'll be surprised how much the intellectual level of political discourse has declined in the last 30 years. Yet even today's electorate isn't dumbed down enough to make Ms. Palin a viable national leader of a major party.

  • Posted By: Dylan Rossi @ 10/26/2008 9:37:21 AM

    they dressed me in their fancy clothes, they fed me to their elite media friends, they even made me bow and scrape to "Saturday Night Live," but they still couldn't change me. I'm still Sarah from Wasilla and I'm ready to take Real America back.


    YEAH!

    Oh, sorry. That's Darman being Palin, not Palin being Palin.

    Look, folks, it's easy to see Palin's next TWO step(s).

    First, she writes her story. Then, she writes a follow-up, filled with policy prescriptions, written by the conservative elites like Will, Brooks and Dunn.

    Then she takes a few lessons on how to say "nuclear" without sounding like GW.

    Then she runs hard at Jeb, the likely favorite come November 5th. She reminds voters that he is from the same tree that other fellow fell out of.

    Then she packs up her bag after Iowa and retires somewhere warm.

  • Posted By: JoethePlumbersHelper @ 10/26/2008 9:35:49 AM

    I think Sara Palin's star is only a brief comet... Enough has already come out from both her personal life (a religious view that is extreme even for an evangelical, "Troopergate" ), as well as public (AP investigation into the gas pipeline bidding process) to suggest that she will self-destruct in time. Trusting God to direct her, she proceeds nilly-willy into things- figuring it "will work out okay in the end" (not too unlike Bush did in going to war and "God knows" what else). With little fear on her part (since God is directing all this, why worry?) - she sometimes have won big with this "world" (or is it "heavenly") view of how things should work. After all, like the Blues Brothers, she is on " a mission from God"...
    Unfortunately, either her cellphone breaks down time to time in its pickups from the "Big Guy" (or Gal) upstairs, and things just don't go as hoped.
    She just seems to have that propensity to "step in it" ... and I think she will self-destruct given time. One just can't get away with NOT thinking about consequences - just because you think God will sort it all out in the
    end. Again, Bush is a good example of this.
    In a way, it does work out well in the end- because we are usually spared to suffer under such folks for long. They do themselves in. Sometimes it takes a while, and that's sad... as so many lives can be affected before it falls apart.

  • Posted By: kimamay @ 10/26/2008 12:34:32 AM

    She can't even pronounce Iraq. I think if you have troops in Iraq you should be able to pronounce it correctly.

    • Posted By: LTolstoy @ 10/26/2008 1:29:48 AM

      I still chuckle when I think of how George Bush Sr. pronounced Saddam Houssein's name. Didn't keep him or the US from a total success there.

      • Posted By: djcastel @ 10/26/2008 9:33:12 AM

        Bush's mispronunciation of Saddam, which started in the runup to Gulf War I, was likely deliberate, as it was immediately emulated by many talking heads supporting the war.

    • Posted By: LTolstoy @ 10/26/2008 1:31:14 AM

      I still chuckle when I think of George Bush Sr.'s Pronunciation of Saddam Hussein. Didn't stop him or the US from a successful campaign in Iraq.

  • Posted By: RealAustinCynic @ 10/26/2008 9:19:04 AM

    Reagan had two terms as governor of a state that would have been one of the world's top 10 economies during his tenure if it were an independent country. I'm no fan of the man, but he had legitimate executive experience.

  • Posted By: zeke227 @ 10/26/2008 8:40:27 AM

    maybe a lot of us will be stupid enough to think of Palin as the next big republican star. She pushes all the right buttons and challenges no one to rise above the squalor of the culture wars. If so, the bush/rove legacy will continue to divide the country, rush limbough will become the minister of propaganda, and we will become vassals to china and saudi arabia. What a lovely future a palin party platform will give us.

  • Posted By: Character Counts @ 10/26/2008 8:26:47 AM

    If the Republican Party is intent on finally achieving irrelevance, it will follow your suggestions. What was that line about pigs and lipstick?

  • Posted By: ArJay5000 @ 10/26/2008 8:18:01 AM

    The GOP couldn't possibly be so stupid to put Palin in front of a TV Camera in a REAL debate where she would be required to answer questions and display an understanding of policy could they?? I mean, that's what would be required if she was to run for GOP nomination wouldn't it? LOL she would probably pick her husband as her running mate. At least she would've met him more than once. And he costs less to dress.
    I'm sure they will find an intelligent right - wing nut (if there is such a thing) to do the job 5000 times better than Palin in 8 years time.

  • Posted By: voicewithin @ 10/26/2008 8:00:35 AM

    McCain's Sidekick Shopping Sarah 666 Pay Pay Palin on the loose... Oh No! American watch out! World watch out! I think one of the wall Street Lobbying firms would have to pick her up... She fits right in with them!

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  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 10/26/2008 7:57:40 AM

    can't you plainly see Palin is the right wing match for Obama? Is in't Obama black liberal Palin? A created story without Substance? Till economy was crashed by your proxies, the Mccain team had all the makings of winners. Who are you kidding? GOP will answer to their people. Liberals can shut up for now.

  • Posted By: Retsos Nikos @ 10/26/2008 7:34:10 AM

    Sarah Palin is a default celebrity that came out of nowhere and became a VP candidate of John McCain, but she has not been taken seriously by anyone. She is probably a phenomenon that reminds me the pro-wrestler Jesse Ventura who became in a flip governor of Minnesota, filled the tabloids as governor-referee of pro-wresting matches, intrigued the pundits to project him as a possible presidential candidate, and then faded into obscurity. I see Sarah Palin following Jesse Ventura's path to nowhere in the national political landscape.

    Sarah Palin may have made the headlines with $150.000 makeovers, and then tell the reporters "people don't know how frugal we are," but Americans are used to see people like her in the first page of National Inquirer -the typical Hollywood Prozac laden personalities - not in their ballot box. And spending $150.000 on fashionable clothing in 3 months is in line with spending by the late Jackie Kennedy-Onassis, not with
    mainstream America. And, at a time most Americans are feeling the pain of their financial losses, and they are terrified with their financial future, I cannot see how a flashy tabloid republican VP figure with a
    shaky political telemetry can come back, rally the republicans, and then cut a big swath of votes out of the
    democratic landscape to become president. And for those who might say: Ronald Reagan did it with the so-called "Reagan Democrats," I say: Sarah Palin is not Ronald Reagan. Nikos Retsos, retired professor of Pol.Sci. and History

  • Posted By: John 1263 @ 10/26/2008 6:54:11 AM

    palin will slip back into obscurity, after her investigations, potential trilas for official misconduct, and her inability to govern after burning her bridges loses her the governors mansion in Alaska. By 2012 she will be more obscure and toxic than dan quayle in 1996.

  • Posted By: dobermanmacleod @ 10/26/2008 5:39:09 AM

    Yeah, typically after a big loss, the political party runs to the base, then when they lose a second time big, they come out of the wilderness to be more competive. I can hear those right wingers now "we need to rediscover the soul of the party, that was McCain's problem in '08." Yeah, that's the ticket, you need to be even more right wing (Obama for sure is looking at 8 years then).

  • Posted By: sher_bear21 @ 10/26/2008 4:40:52 AM

    "In the event of a Republican embarrassment on Election Day, the real story won't be John McCain licking the wounds from his lonely defeat. It may be Sarah Palin reinventing the Republican Party???not from the middle, but from the right."

    Move the GOP more to the right? God forbid!!! That's exactly what's wrong with the Republican party now! I agree that they have lost their appeal among centrists and independents, but to base a party's future on low-education rednecks is political suicide. America does not need another culture war. It needs government to do what is fiscally responsible and to stay out of people's bedrooms and private lives. I

    t's ironic that this is the path that some Republicans want to go down, but it is a losing one. Whites will no longer be the majority by 2042, so it sounds as if they're looking for a good, old fashioned race war to keep themselves in power. I can think of nothing that could be more destructive to America! More than anything, the GOP needs to rebrand itself as a moderate, sensible and inclusive party, rather than trend even more to the far-right.

  • Posted By: sher_bear21 @ 10/26/2008 4:40:25 AM

    "In the event of a Republican embarrassment on Election Day, the real story won't be John McCain licking the wounds from his lonely defeat. It may be Sarah Palin reinventing the Republican Party???not from the middle, but from the right."

    Move the GOP more to the right? God forbid!!! That's exactly what's wrong with the Republican party now! I agree that they have lost their appeal among centrists and independents, but to base a party's future on low-education rednecks is political suicide. America does not need another culture war. It needs government to do what is fiscally responsible and to stay out of people's bedrooms and private lives. I

    t's ironic that this is the path that some Republicans want to go down, but it is a losing one. Whites will no longer be the majority by 2042, so it sounds as if they're looking for a good, old fashioned race war to keep themselves in power. I can think of nothing that could be more destructive to America! More than anything, the GOP needs to rebrand itself as a moderate, sensible and inclusive party, rather than trend even more to the far-right.

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