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  • Posted By: sue22 @ 10/25/2008 6:17:43 PM

    there is Finanical issues all around the would, I guess we will blame it on THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION, Since no one wants to takeand be reponsible, and it a good time to blame someone else for your on responsiblities, and knowing everyone bought a home or did something nowing VERY WELL you could not afford it... LET BLAME THE REPUBLICANS. for everyone's stupidity...

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 9:06:47 PM

      Sue22, getting your eighth-grade graduation certificate might be somethingf or which you could strive in the future.

  • Posted By: abe4600 @ 10/25/2008 9:00:55 PM

    Hmm..a 150k shopping spree at Saks Fifth Avenue? Can you blame her for trying to get something out of a losing campaign?

  • Posted By: GregHere @ 10/25/2008 8:58:18 PM

    ...............................................Palin's Problem is that she is from the Far Right Wing of the Republican Party.....from where George Bush came from in 2000 when he started to screw up in every area he could in governing America.................Americans are wise enough to realize that Palin is not educated, experienced or qualified to be a outstanding V.P...............Palin is good looking and looks good in those expensive clothes that the GOP bought for her but America sees Palin as a Big Mistake by McCain and it is time for her to go back to shooting the cariboo, speaking in tongues and all of the other peculiar things she does in Alaska!!!!!

  • Posted By: thuthdig @ 10/25/2008 6:38:29 PM

    Wow! "sue22" your post of 6:03:36 is simply fantastic. In five sentences you've managed to include eight misspelled words, left out five words, used a myriad of improper punctuation and scrambled your word order such that your grammar resembles the mindless wanderings of a young child. Unfortunately what comes through in your drivel are fragments of hate and echoes of feelings so ill conceived, so based in ignorance and fear that one can hardly help but to pity you. Please understand that all you've achieved by your efforts is to alienate those very few undecided voters left; the ones who have the power to decide this election. Your pedantic ranting is so despicable, so vile that I can honestly say I hope you keep posting. I hope you keep shedding light on the hate and fear with which John McCain has fueled his campaign; the lies, the smears and the negativity that are quickly becoming the backbone of the Republican Party. And I hope that all who read this ask themselves, where do I stand? Do I stand with hate and fear, or with hope and change?

    Obama 08

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:56:26 PM

      Thuthdig....what a profound post! You go!!!!!

    • Posted By: sue22 @ 10/25/2008 6:44:34 PM

      hey thug one more thing, Wait until you get your welcome TAX BREAK from the SOCIALISt, and wait to see what it is really going to cost you, So did you have to look in the dictionary to spell your words and show everyone the hate YOU REALLY HAVE?

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/25/2008 7:10:57 PM


        If McCain is not a socialist, why did he vote for the Bail Out package? Why is he now proposing for the government to buy the housing debt? Isn't THAT socialism? McCain is counting on the Karl Rove/Bush trick of blaming your opponent of their own biggest faults.

      • Posted By: sue22 @ 10/25/2008 6:49:07 PM

        THUG??? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ARE REALLY AFRAID OF?? stop being jealuos of a woman running for Vice Pres. That all it really is about. so than we will take focus off the TERROIST OSAMA (BARRAK)

  • Posted By: politicaljunkie82 @ 10/25/2008 8:55:35 PM

    While success has many fathers and failure an orphan, Sen. McCain's loss (if he loses) will not just be his responsibility but also that of President Bush. Th President's failure to choose a running mate that would be a natural successor to the Republican party leadership combined with his determination to crush, dismiss and discredit all dissent within the party left Republicans adrift in this presidential election year. An important function of any sitting president is to try to ensure continued power of his party beyond his tenure. President Bush gave no thought to this. His eagerness to build a gleaming legacy for himself that would eclipse that of his Father's seemed to be the only true measure of the success in his mind. He obviously gave no thought to the future of the Republican party, because it was simply a tool he used to gain power, to make a place for himself in history.

    Gov. Palin is much like President Bush. The Republican party should be wary of repeating the mistake it made in nominating the former governor of Texas. Compare the two and you will see they are each ambitious beyond their abilities with egos more exercised than their intellects. Each has a common touch that makes the "masses" (and believe me they see working class Americans as the masses) comfortable with them and a clear desire for power without a clear vision of its proper uses and limitations in a democracy.

    Unfortunately, we may be doomed to repeat the history of this election no matter who becomes the president-elect. Sen. Obama's choice of running mate is problematic for the Democrats. Sen. Biden is much older than Sen. Obama and if Sen. Obama wins the election and is re-elected in 2012, he will faced will the same problem that President Bush failed to address -- anointing a successor. If Sen. Obama remakes the Democratic party in his own image, the current party leaders and natural successors such as Biden and Clinton will be unrealistic choices.

    My hope is that both parties will learn the less obvious lessons from the mistakes made by the President Bush in governing and looking beyond the life its administration for both the good of their respective parties as well as the country.

  • Posted By: EducateAmerica @ 10/25/2008 6:40:30 PM

    It is more about McCain's judgment and not about Palin. What was he thinking apart from getting the beer goggle wearing, Joe Six-Pack vote ??

    • Posted By: WillieBoy @ 10/25/2008 7:05:18 PM

      EducateAmerica: I think America will do very well without YOUR education.

      You don't think women find Sarah Palin attractive? Shows how much YOU know!

      • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:55:24 PM

        Sarah is a beautiful woman; no doubt about it. She just doesn't have a brain.

  • Posted By: LeoDaCat @ 10/25/2008 6:45:07 PM

    And why are so many pro-Republican comments - not just here, but on any blog - so incredibly full of hatred and name-calling?? Most liberals I know - with a few unfortunate exceptions - are fine with having differences with other people. That's called American diversity - and it IS quite American.

    You hate-filled folks who are anti-anything-liberal are, in reality, as significant an anti-American force as any foreign terrorists. William F Buckley and Barry Goldwater would be turning over in their graves with shame if they could read some of the total trash written here by people supposedly defending 'conservative' thinking!

    You wanna argue competing ideas, different ways of running government, etc - fine! But if you just want to call names and spew hate, please go back to grade school and try to work out whatever your issues really are.

    • Posted By: WillieBoy @ 10/25/2008 7:02:17 PM

      A typical emotional non-intellectual response from someone who has substituted critical thinking.for leftist ideology

      The only 'hate' that I've seen in this race has been a la Jeremiah Wright and his ilk. But this doesn't seem to bother you at all. Amazing.

      • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:54:13 PM

        Jeremiah WRight is a born again fruit cake. Plain and simple. My parents had a minister very similar and he was also a "nut". They stopped attending after I laid out his beliefs. My mother said that they had always attended that church and never really paid a lot of attention to his ravings. You'd be surprised how many Americans attend churches/white and black that have preachers like this.

    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 7:27:03 PM

      You mean like this?

      "Press Releases

      AJC Strongly Condemns Rev. Jesse Jacksons Comment on American Jews
      October 14, 2008 - New York - The American Jewish Committee (AJC) has condemned the Rev. Jesse Jackson's statement about "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades."
      "Rev. Jackson's remarks, which appeared in an interview with the journalist Amir Taheri in today's New York Post, echo classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about Jewish power," said AJC Executive Director David A. Harris. "This statement, regrettably, is not the first troubling comment by Rev. Jackson regarding Israel, Zionism and the Jewish people.

      Arguing as a private citizen that an Obama administration could bring significant change to U.S. foreign policy, Jackson was quoted as saying that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose much of their influence should Senator Obama be elected president."


      http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=849241&ct=6107743

      And people are upset about what some in the crowd are saying at Palin events? Isn't this the same Democrat leader who once called New York "Hymietown" ?


    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 7:03:05 PM

      clearly you have not been on this site very long.

  • Posted By: mojo15 @ 10/25/2008 6:53:38 PM

    After they go to Saks, they should check and see how much Obama spent on his personal trip flying on his campaign trip to Hawaii to visit his grandmother. He could have chartered a plane and paid for it out of his own pocket instead of using campaign funds. The trip had nothing to do with his campaign.

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:49:13 PM

      Mojo15, are you insane?

  • Posted By: Johns Side Kick @ 10/25/2008 6:56:13 PM

    If McCain lose's this election it will not be Sarah Palin that was the cause. I can guarantee you that in four years Sarah Palin will be the next Republican Nominated for President and will be the first Woman to win the the oval office in a landslide.

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:46:49 PM

      You have to be delusional.

    • Posted By: Joe Six-pack @ 10/25/2008 8:20:38 PM

      What planet are you on? President Palin and Vice President Mr. Magoo?
      What's the name of the last book you actually read?

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/25/2008 7:05:18 PM


      ... And Disco music will never die.

  • Posted By: clearreasoning @ 10/25/2008 7:24:50 PM

    I'm shocked that Newsweek allows patent falsehoods to circulate on the website of a supposedly respectable publication. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, which is one of the fifty United States (perhaps to the surprise of some). Asserting otherwise is slanderous, plain and simple. The ignorance displayed in these comments is shameful.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/25/2008 8:40:04 PM

      Your "shocked" that Newsweak allows blatant falsehoods? Where have you been? Have you picked up one of their magazines in the last 15years? They are 50+ pages of liberal nonsense and propaganda, and can be delivered to your mailbox each and every week.

  • Posted By: sfrose @ 10/25/2008 7:11:20 PM

    It's understandable that McCain is tormented by the fact that his North Vietnamese interrogators/torturers broke him into signing a confession. But preening around like a big war hero is his way of compensating for what he must think is his failure. We don't begrudge him signing anything after being tortured. But that experience does not show or prove great character. It merely shows he's human. Well, we're all human.

    So let's move onto the issues that will face our children. Who will lead us OUT of the mess the GOP RNC led us into once again, like it did under Reagan, our last Recession causing president? Will it be McBush? America doesn't think so, it will be Obama-Biden--- intellect, charisma, leadership. Not McBush running around like a crazy loose cannon spewing hate and nonsense like "My Friends, I know how to fix this economy..... I know how to win this war.... I know how to do everything.... Just make me president so I can do something!" I don't think so, John, your time has passed, and Palin's will never come if there is a shred of sense in the American public.

    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 7:17:12 PM

      Correction, Clinton caused the last recession.

      The U.S. economy shrank in three non-consecutive quarters in the early 2000s (the third quarter of 2000, the first quarter of 2001, and the third quarter of 2001). According to the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), which is the private, nonprofit, nonpartisan organization charged with determining economic recessions, the U.S. economy was in recession from March 2001 to November 2001, a period of eight months. However, economic conditions did not satisfy the common shorthand definition of recession, which is "a fall of a country's real gross domestic product in two or more successive quarters," and has led to some confusion about the procedure for determining the starting and ending dates of a recession.
      The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee (BCDC) uses monthly, rather than quarterly, indicators to determine peaks and troughs in business activity[1], as can be seen by noting that starting and ending dates are given by month and year, not quarters. However, controversy over the precise dates of the recession led to the characterization of the recession as the "Clinton Recession" by Republicans, if it could be traced to the final term of President Bill Clinton. A move in the recession date in a 2004 report by the Council of Economic Advisors to several months before the one given by the NBER was seen as politically motivated.[2] BCDC members suggested they would be open to revisiting the dates of the recession as newer and more definitive data became available.[3] In early 2004, NBER President Martin Feldstein said:
      "It is clear that the revised data have made our original March date for the start of the recession much too late. We are still waiting for additional monthly data before making a final judgment. Until we have the additional data, we cannot make a decision."[3]
      Nonetheless, as of early 2008, no further revision to the dates has been made.
      Using the stock market as an unofficial benchmark, a recession would have begun in March 2000 when the NASDAQ crashed following the collapse of the Dot-com bubble. The Dow Jones Industrial Average was relatively unscathed by the NASDAQ's crash until the September 11, 2001 attacks, after which the DJIA suffered its worst one-day point loss and biggest one-week losses in history up to that point. The market rebounded, only to crash once more in the final two quarters of 2002. In the final three quarters of 2003, the market finally rebounded permanently, agreeing with the unemployment statistics that a recession defined in this way would have lasted from 2001 through 2003.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession

      • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:39:25 PM

        No Correction needed. EVEN GEORGE BUSH SR. KNEW THAT REAGAN CAUSED THE LAST BIG RECESSION AND CALLED HIS ECONOMIC POLICY....VOO DOO ECONOMICS.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/25/2008 7:48:05 PM


        Well, recessions are cyclical. Clinton presided over the largest economic expansion in American history. The bad thing about the last economic expansion is that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. Ah, Reganomics.

  • Posted By: test10022 @ 10/25/2008 7:11:37 PM

    Affirmative action is a much more relevant and much better wedge issue than immigration.

    By arguing against immigration, one is denying the hopes and dreams of millions of unskilled workers in their efforts to contribute to American society and compete on an equal, untampered playing field. While immigration must be limited to a growth rate slower than that of the overall economy to prevent a decline in wages, opposing immigration entirely (or limiting it to only skilled workers) is a slight to millions of hardworking, entrepreneurial immigrants. (And the government can't really pick out skilled workers anyway--by its definition, Jim Kraft should not have been allowed to start Kraft foods but every average college graduate in a technical field deserves preferential treatment.)

    By arguing against affirmative action, one is only telling the racist crybabies that depend on the policy to make a living that:

    1. Having 40% of the population eligible is too many to be considered a "minority." and that
    2. The policy has existed for over 40 years
    3. White males are a minority and whites overall soon will be
    4. Mentioning every group except for whites and Asians is a form of institutionalized racism that has changed the policy from its original intent of helping a small disadvantaged group into a policy of discriminating against a white minority
    5. The beneficiaries know this and don't care; they have no problem behaving in racist and evil ways. Their character does not deserve the benevolence that white people have shown towards them. Fight fire with fire; recognize the behavior and the character of the opponent and behave in a similar and just manner. To do otherwise--to continue to show benevolence towards groups that do not return it is only asking for a future in which white people will be poor, discriminated against and very few in number.

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:37:47 PM

      Test, have you burned your cross today?

  • Posted By: JasonBourne @ 10/25/2008 7:12:37 PM

    Newsweek and the other left wing media are pathetic. Big deal the Palin has 150k in clothing. Gore spent at least that to go earthy in 2000. The left wing nut jobs are so interested in clothing, yet pay no attention to the fact that Obama is not a US citizen. He was born in Kenya. He has not forwarded a birth certificate. This makes him unqualified and the biggest fraud in history. But Palin's cloths are important. Pathetic!!!

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:36:33 PM

      OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII. ARE YOU LITERATE? YOU CAN'T READ? Look it up.

    • Posted By: sfrose @ 10/25/2008 8:02:39 PM

      Like you would know ANY facts, much less ones about Gore. Typical wannabe NeoCon, make up some bs and then cite yourself as the authority for your "winning" argument. You must LOVE Palin.

    • Posted By: JoeBlount @ 10/25/2008 7:29:32 PM

      JasonBourne:

      Maybe you should read the article again (that is if you can really read). Sarah's clothes were not even a minor point of this article. Typical ignorant right wing response... ignore the whole point of the article and try to jump on any excuse to call the media liberal. You're a fool and the rest of the country is starting recognize you idiots for what you are. Time to get this country in the hands of people who think before they act.

      Joe

  • Posted By: jamie@5tein.com @ 10/25/2008 7:14:11 PM

    Ok, here's a few samples of forward-thinking liberal "intelligence": Harming animals is bad but harming unborn children is good, parental indoctrination is bad but government indoctrination is good, diversity is good (unless it involves white males or Christians), marriage is unnecessary (unless it involves gay people), making money is bad but taking money is good, and if you disagree with any of this, well then you're a racist.

    • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:35:31 PM

      No, disagreeing with this would make you smart. That's a Republican agenda.

    • Posted By: enyaw @ 10/25/2008 8:33:07 PM

      Perfect :-)

    • Posted By: A2222 @ 10/25/2008 7:31:55 PM

      Here is one "forward thinking liberal's" response: harming any life is unsavory, any indoctrination is damaging, the world cultures are diverse, religious marriage should be at the hands of the church but civil rights for couples should not be deigned by the church, money is money and has no intrinsic value, and no I am not a racist.

      • Posted By: jamie@5tein.com @ 10/25/2008 8:05:01 PM

        I'm glad that you apparently do not align yourself completely with the stances commonly taken by the people you as a professed liberal support, but I'm afraid you may have missed my point and I'm sure I don't entirely understand yours- I neither asked if you were, or implied that you are, a racist.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/25/2008 7:20:00 PM

      Terrific post, and spot on

  • Posted By: notjoeVIpack @ 10/25/2008 7:17:23 PM

    My fear is that people like Sue22 have become a significant majority population in the U.S.: Uneducated, inarticulate, willfully ignorant and hate filled. I am truly frightened by the gradual but steady rise of the ignorant class in this country. It is as if ignorance has become a virtue and reasoned thought some kind of enemy of the state. What is even more sickening is the right wing inteligencia's crass exploitation of the hatefully ignorant.

    The folks

    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 7:28:47 PM

      You mean like this?

      "Press Releases

      AJC Strongly Condemns Rev. Jesse Jackson's Comment on American Jews
      October 14, 2008 - New York - The American Jewish Committee (AJC) has condemned the Rev. Jesse Jackson's statement about "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades."
      "Rev. Jackson's remarks, which appeared in an interview with the journalist Amir Taheri in today's New York Post, echo classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about Jewish power," said AJC Executive Director David A. Harris. "This statement, regrettably, is not the first troubling comment by Rev. Jackson regarding Israel, Zionism and the Jewish people.

      Arguing as a private citizen that an Obama administration could bring significant change to U.S. foreign policy, Jackson was quoted as saying that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose much of their influence should Senator Obama be elected president."


      http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=849241&ct=6107743

      And people are upset about what some in the crowd are saying at Palin events? Isn't this the same Democrat leader who once called New York "Hymietown" ?


      • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 10/25/2008 8:34:36 PM

        Nowforthe truth: I hate to inform you, but NOBODY PAYS ANY ATTENTION TO JESSE JACKSON ANYMORE. He's a non-entity.

      • Posted By: sfrose @ 10/25/2008 8:07:29 PM

        Palin would be one melanoma away from being president, but Jesse Jackson is no friend of Obama, much less a candidate. Did you hear what Joe McCain, John's brother, said when he called 911 to complain about being stuck in traffic? Who cares about Jesse Jackson?? That's what you had to reach for ?? How about the GOP RNC Hate Machine---- McBush Palin Limbaugh Hannity O'Reilly Rove Bush

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/25/2008 7:56:33 PM

    PALIN DID NOT STATE A DAMN THING...

    YOU LOW LIFE !!!

    MCCAIN STAATED HER ASS WOULD DONATE OR THE GOP WILL AUCTION THEM OFF AND THAT SHE NEEDED THE CLOTHES !!!


    "SHE NEEDED THE CLOTHES"

    SHE NEEDED THE CLOTHES LIKE CINDY MCCAIN NEEDED TO FLAUNT HER ...

    350,000 WARDROBE FOR THE GOP CONVENTION....HA !!!!


    JUST LIKE A DAMN ELITIST.....

    DO IT AND DO IT BIG, EVEN WHEN MOST AVERAGE HOMES COST [150,000 $]

    AN MOST MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES COST [350,000 $]


    OH YEAH, THATS SHOWING THE WORKING CLASS CITIZENS, YOU FEEL THEIR PAIN !!!

    FORECLOSURES AT AN ALL TIME HIGH AND THESE 2 *** ARE FLAUNTING TO POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA.....

    I GOT IT, YOU DON'T AND DON'T YOU WISH, YOU WERE ME !!!

    • Posted By: silverpa @ 10/25/2008 8:22:05 PM

      OMAR, my man (you are a man?). Take some deep breaths, relax. Everything will be OK no matter who wins. Our girl Sarah is not a Millionaire like all the other candidates and their wives. They can buy their own expensive clothes. We can't have Sarah looking like a frump next to them can we? Besides, $150K is a drop in the bucket compared to the Millions that are being spent on these campaigns. The campaigns budgets are more than some countries annual National budgets! So let it go..there are actually some important issues out there that you should be concerned with.

  • Posted By: silverpa @ 10/25/2008 7:05:16 PM

    Nice article. And I think you may be right. Should (heaven help us:) McCain not win this election, I too suspect Gov Palin will spend the next 4 years gathering her forces and preparing for a 2012 run, which she very well could win. The 4 years she would spend as VP with a McCain win would probably make her a shoe-in next time. So whomever wins this time, I will for sure be tracking Sarah and expecting her to reverse all the "Big Brother" effects that Obama & the Dems in Congress will surely be imposing over the next four long years should he win this one.

    • Posted By: WillieBoy @ 10/25/2008 7:08:42 PM

      Obama AINT gonna win!

      • Posted By: Joe Six-pack @ 10/25/2008 8:21:29 PM

        Wrong again, WillieBoy.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 8:20:57 PM

    Obama in this video is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other Community Activist's organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President and pledge to meet with leaders of Acorn and the others present at the convention in his first year, Obama says, quote:

    "Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition, we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda."

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama has promised that Acorn and other groups like it will a part of his transition and setting his agenda if elected:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

  • Posted By: Ezekiel33 @ 10/25/2008 8:13:21 PM

    Or maybe we all should leave our Jedeo Christian roots to prove to Palin she's living in the olden' day and all multicultrually join Islam and travel to Mecca to throw stones at a wall representing Satan and pray we don't get stampeded before running around a black meteorite in a large soccer-stadium. I'm up for it...anyone else...how about you PC atheists out there?....or Bill Maher agnostics? ..that Judeo Christian stuff is for old timers and 3rd dimensional people...right?

  • Posted By: historybuff1 @ 10/25/2008 8:12:41 PM

    I disagree. They've cloistered her for good reason, and the advisors are beginning to speak out. She has ambition, Hollywood looks, and Diva drive. But she doesn't have the one thing she really means when she says "elitism," the intellectual capacity to understand complex issues. I hope, instad, for the mainstream Republican party to reclaim its power. Then, we can truly have bipartisan solutions, and I can freely vote both sides of the ticket depending on the candidate. Life was like that before Carl Rove.

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