It is plain that many liberal people don't agree with her. But that doesn't mean they have to unfair to her. "A populist, far-right politician with intense celebrity appeal" is just a carcicature of her. Obama then can aptly be described as "A populist, far-left politician with intense celebrity appeal". Not to mention that one hand is enough to count the number of years of experience he has.
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Posted By: jstark99 @ 10/26/2008 8:31:27 AM
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Posted By: Sassy Lady @ 10/26/2008 9:21:13 AM
Unfair to her? From the moment she was picked as McCain's VP, I wanted to know everything about her. She was an unknown that was not vetted properly by the McCain camp. They made the mistake of keeping her under wraps for weeks, so naturally the media had a feeding frenzy. I don't blame the media or the democrats for that. I blame the McCain campaign. The experience argument you pose is loosely rooted. The Katie Couric interviews were proof enough that she does not have ANY experience, nor does she have a world view based upon intellect. Sarah Palin and the McCain campaign cooked her own goose.
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Posted By: jstark99 @ 10/27/2008 10:55:54 PM
There are many liberals I know who hated her even before they even knew anything about her. The media would have gone after her even if she articulated her views well because they are ideologically opposite to her. Even in this piece, she is described as "far right" but Obama is never referred to as "far left". If she was a liberal dumbass, they would have fed her as the saviour of the US, like they are doing for Obama. He also does not have the relevant experience to be president.
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Posted By: ArJay5000 @ 10/26/2008 8:56:57 AM
Can someone tell me how much experience Reagan had?
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Posted By: djcastel @ 10/26/2008 9:15:23 AM
Reagan was governor of California for eight years (1967-1975). As his radio show and writings from the 1970s show, he had given serious thought to political policies for a long time. In terms of experience, he was well above Obama or Palin. In terms of intelligence and thoughtfulness, he was well above Palin, as well as the common caricatures of him.
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Posted By: ArJay5000 @ 10/26/2008 9:32:58 AM
Thanks, I am from Australia. Land of socialist medicine and the Westminster political system. Here we vote for a Prime Minister at election time, however voters base their decision on policy and the team behind the PM.
Am I correct that the presidential candidate in the USA cannot unveil any plans as to who he/she may appoint to key cabinet positions?
As to Obama's executive experience... What constitutes executive experience? A good education? He has that. Ability to discuss issues with foreign dignitaries? I'm sure he could do that. A clear thinking process with an abitlity to digest "intelligence" and make decisions based on such "intelligence". I have seen enough of the man that I believe he has that clear thinking.
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Posted By: haynessemperfi @ 10/27/2008 10:25:07 PM
C-SPAN THIRD PARTY DEBATE
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/library/flash_popup.php?pID=281952-1&clipStart=&clipStop=
C-SPAN THIRD PARTY VP DEBATED NOVEMBER 2
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 8:03:03 PM
Now there is proof. In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama let it slip that he really is as radical as his early political mentors, Davis, Ayers, Wright, etc., and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now, an interview with Obama in 2001, mysteriously overlooked all this time by the main media outlets, proves this fact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Obama's redistribution and restitution plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html
Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU
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Posted By: Omaar @ 10/27/2008 10:17:05 PM
NOTE: THE GOVERNMENT'S 2 WARS ARE NOT FINANCED BY THE USA, BUT BY STILL VERY ....
[COMMUNIST SOCIALIST- RED CHINA] !!!
QUESTION: IS PRESIDENT BUSH A [SOCIALIST COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER] ?
BECAUSE IF WE ARE THIS TRULY SELF SUFFICIENT, A TRUE WORLD POWER....
WHY ARE WE NOT FINANCING OUR 2 WARS, OURSESELVES, WITH OUR OWN MONEY ?
THAT IS WHAT [INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES] DO ...
OR WHY ARE WE NOT BORROWING MONEY FROM OUR ALLIED NATIONS, OPPOSED TO A STILL VERY ....
[COMMUNIST-SOCIALIST COUNTRY] LIKE [RED CHINA] ....HMMM
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WOULD'NT THAT MAKE THE US GOVERNMENT [SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST] ALSO...
AND THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION [SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST] AS WELL...
THIS [SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST] ACT MUST BE A TITLE OR TAG OF CONVENIENCE OR IS INTERCHANGEABLE, DEPENDING ON WHOSE USING IT TO HIS OR HER NATION'S ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE....
I'M STUMPED
I BELIEVE WE LIVE IN A ...
MILITARY RAN, CAPITALIST, SOCIALIST, SOME WHAT RELIGOUSLY TOLERANT COUNTRY.....
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Posted By: Omaar @ 10/27/2008 10:15:24 PM
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/the_mccain_tax_increasescontin.html
McCain Top Economic Adviser: [McCain Will Raise Taxes] ...Fact !!!
"Whether you're a Republican, Democrat President or a Martian, Taxes will be Raised"
Though Mccain has said Throughout his campaign
"I will Not, Raise Your Taxes"
His Top Economic Adviser says that a LIE....
Obama will Raise Taxes on those that make More than 250,000...
The 250,000 per year and Under, will have a Tax Break and Tax Cut.
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Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former Director of the Congressional Budget Office and current chief McCain economic advisor, is an honest man--which means he's something of a liability on the Straight Talk Express. A few months ago, he admitted to my colleague, Michael Scherer, that Barack Obama's economic plan would reduce taxes for most people.
And now, in a forthcoming book by Fortune columnist Matt Miller, he makes it clear that the next President is going to have to raise taxes.
"If you do nothing on the spending side, you're going to have to RAISE TAXES whether you're a Republican, a Democrat or a Martian," he tells Miller...and then he immediately makes it clear that the "spending side" part of the argument is nothing more than a ...............
"POLITICAL FIG LEAF".
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YOU REPUBLICANS ARE SUCH GULLIBLE FOOLS...MCCAIN WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES...PERIOD
TAXES WILL BE RAISED...PERIOD...
2 WARS AT THE COST OF BILLIONS, HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT, RECORD HIGH FORECLOSURE RATES, THE BIGGEST WALLSTREET BAILOUT EVER, INFLATION, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, OVER POPULATION, ALL LEAD TO MORE [TAXATION] !!!
THE SPENDING END IS A ..BIG JOKE !!
SIMPLE, DAMN !!!
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Posted By: jbrenny @ 10/27/2008 9:34:04 PM
agree with you all the way
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Posted By: josemarti @ 10/27/2008 9:55:28 PM
Let's give Obama a chance. If he turns out to be a radical, I am sure that enough Democrats will join the Republicans in Congress to keep him check until we can elect someone else. Let us give him a chance. Let us vote for him. Let's give the guy a chance.....Look at all the other fine politicians to have come from Illinois recently: Ah yes. Senator Durbin. Ah yes the great Governor Ryan. Don't forget Governor Blagojevic. And the illustrious former Senator Moseley Braun. Oh, oh, and don't forget Richard Daley. Ah yes. All fine men and women. Incorruptible. Honest. Fair. No little tyrants in that group. No convicts either. No trying to use your influence to make money overseas. Oh no. No demagogues. Not associating with cons. No sir. No mam. A credit to mankind: Durbin, Ryan, Blagojevic, Moseley Braun, Daley.
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Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/27/2008 9:47:18 PM
"LDJ": You tell a tale of fear based upon a communist from 50 years ago.
Having driven the bus over the cliff with us in it, the Rs are still trying to tell us Obama is "Socialist".
Go to factcheck.org and read "Spread The Tax Hooey!" It refutes the "Socialist' slogan.
What I'm not willing to do is give the keys back to those who enriched themselves taking lobbyist fees to create the circumstances that created the crisis.
Just a few months ago McCain pointed out a few months ago that lobbyists are what's wrong in Washington and he promised he would be the one who would throw the lobbyists out.
Then, when he saw he was losing, McCain hired Rick Davis as his campaign manager. Rick Davis has received up to $35k/mo. (that we know of) from Fannie and Freddie from at least 2000 up to the present, lobbying Rs only against regulation of the practices that caused the economic crisis. Freddie continued paying Davis after he became McC's campaign manager. Freddie donated $250k to the R convention.
I'm not giving McC any more chances to tell me lies. The lies the McC propaganda machine tells us about Obama are not as scary as the truth about McC.
A 40 Year republican
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Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/27/2008 9:37:38 PM
i follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
Let's teach him we are smarter than that
Stand up and hold them accountable
Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
Elect Obama Biden 2008
Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ-
Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/27/2008 9:40:09 PM
You have been repeating and repeating this crap for over a month now. You are completely clogging up the board...can you please go get a life and go away?
No one knows who Bob the Proctolgist is...and no one cares. Go away....
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Posted By: Nins @ 10/27/2008 6:51:53 PM
Obama has 63 Nobel Laureates working on his policy team. They are developing a plan to push America back to the top. Who is responsible for McCain's planning? Americans would be shocked to find that Douglas Holtz-Eakin is the sole person responsible for planning McCain's policy for America's future. Holtz-Eakin is also McCain's economic advisor, filling two full time positions on McCain's team. How can one single man (an economist) be responsible for developing a viable technology plan for our future? Obama has an enormous pool of the most intelligent, talented men and women in America working for him. Soon, they will be working for US.
And let's not forget that the McCain campaign spent more on Palin's makeup artist than it did on it's foreign policy advisor. When you pay your makeup artist DOUBLE what you pay your foreign policy advisor, it is time to start examining your priorities.
You look just fine without makeup, John. And Sarah is young enough not to need any. So cut the crap, and start paying some good ECONOMIC ADVISORS so you can have a fiscal plan to present to America. We're in the middle of a huge global financial meltdown, and you are worried about hair and makeup? PLEASE start worrying about the middle class, John. Please.-
Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/27/2008 9:37:25 PM
LOL - this would be the same Nobel organization that once gave its "peace prize" to Yassar Arafat.
Your ninsense just keeps spewing like a backed up sewer...
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Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/27/2008 9:37:21 PM
follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
Let's teach him we are smarter than that
Stand up and hold them accountable
Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
Elect Obama Biden 2008
Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ
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Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/27/2008 9:37:01 PM
follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
Let's teach him we are smarter than that
Stand up and hold them accountable
Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
Elect Obama Biden 2008
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Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/27/2008 9:36:52 PM
follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
Let's teach him we are smarter than that
Stand up and hold them accountable
Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
Elect Obama Biden 2008
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Posted By: Nins @ 10/27/2008 5:24:26 PM
Obama has 63 Nobel Laureates working on his policy team. They are developing a plan to push America back to the top. Who is responsible for McCain's planning? Americans would be shocked to find that Douglas Holtz-Eakin is the sole person responsible for planning McCain's policy for America's future. Holtz-Eakin is also McCain's economic advisor, filling two full time positions on McCain's team. How can one single man (an economist) be responsible for developing a viable technology plan for our future? Obama has an enormous pool of the most intelligent, talented men and women in America working for him. Soon, they will be working for US.
And let's not forget that the McCain campaign spent more on Palin's makeup artist than it did on it's foreign policy advisor. When you pay your makeup artist DOUBLE what you pay your foreign policy advisor, it is time to start examining your PRIORITIES.
You look just fine without makeup, John. And Sarah is young enough not to need any. So cut the crap, and start paying some good ECONOMIC ADVISORS so you can have a fiscal plan to present to America. We're in the middle of a huge global financial meltdown, and you are worried about hair and makeup? PLEASE start worrying about the middle class, John. Please.-
Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/27/2008 9:33:51 PM
LOL - this would be the same Nobel organization that once gave its "peace prize" to Yassar Arafat.
The ninsense just keeps spewing like a backed up sewer...
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 5:43:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
2001 Chicago Public Citizen Radio Interview criticizing the Warren Court as not radical enough for not pursuing redistribution of wealth.
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Posted By: Nins @ 10/27/2008 6:53:21 PM
NowfortheTruth asserts that the goal of community organizing is to "redistribute wealth."
The real goal of community organizing is to assemble political power for those who historically have had none: the poor and minorities. Some community organizations exist to redress the fact that white banks have refused to loan money to black clients. If you want to call this "redistribution of wealth," go right ahead. The rest us will continue to call it racism.
And when it comes to discussing "redistribution of wealth" and calling Obama a socialist, it is time for you to rethink that strategy. You might be stepping into a huge pile of dog doo-doo, Now fortheTruth.
Did you see McCain on Meet the Press this Sunday? Tom Brokaw played two clips of when McCain was against the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. McCain sings the praises of "redistribution of wealth" and says "wealthy people can afford more taxes."
When McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, he said that he was taking a "principled stance." But when Obama opposes these same tax cuts, McCain labels Obama as a "socialist." Nice double standard, John.
The doo-doo gets deeper, Now for the Dog Stuff on my Hoof.-
Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/27/2008 9:26:54 PM
The only thing getting deeper is the level of your hypocrisy.
How ironic that you mentioned those "evil" white banks refusing to lend money to those "good" poor black folks. It's ironic since today's financial crisis has its roots in the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 (designed, passed, and promoted by liberal Democrats like you). This act uses government fiat to force banks to loan money to people who had no chance of paying it back...all in the name of equality. Of course, now you use the bailout of the banks as a club to use against the Republicans.
Sorry to interrupt your liberal diatribe with the truth, Ninscompoop, but here it is.
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Posted By: josemarti @ 10/27/2008 9:21:40 PM
...and Barackzustra came to a crowd in the town square. And Barackzustra said: Stop clinging to your Bibles you bitter clingers. I teach you the Upper Westside Man. But the people would not give up their Bibles and they held on even more firmly. And Barackzustra said: They are not ready. I have come too early. And he journeyed to the Columbia campus and sat by the Alma Mater and he weeped.
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 9:21:10 PM
http://www.catholic.net/index.php?option=dedestaca&id=1205&category=News%20&%20Media~News
With polls showing a tightening race for the White House, it looks like the Catholic vote again may be crucial to the outcome.
And an Oct. 23 poll records a startling 20-point swing this week among Catholic voters in favor of John McCain.
The IBD/TIPP daily tracking poll found Republican candidate McCain ahead of Democratic presidential candidate 48%-39% among the Catholics in its survey.
The shift was part of a strong overall swing toward McCain in the IBD/TIPP poll.
???McCain has cut into Obama???s lead for a second day and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 Wednesday and 6.0 Tuesday,??? a press release stated. ???The Republican is making headway with middle- and working- class voters, and has surged 10 points in two days among those earning between $30,000 and $75,000. He has also gone from an 11-point de???cit to a 9-point lead among Catholics.???
http://www.catholic.net/index.php?option=dedestaca&id=1205&category=News%20&%20Media~News
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Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 8:37:45 PM
Nins. You are incorrect, and once again, misquoting, My post clearly states that is Obama's stated perspective in the video cited. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
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Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/27/2008 9:20:39 PM
You can always expect a lot of nins-sense from Her Highness the Nins-Compoop.
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Posted By: JoethePlumbersHelper @ 10/26/2008 9:37:11 AM
I think Sara Palin's star is only a brief comet... Enough has already come out from both her personal life (a religious view that is extreme even for an evangelical, "Troopergate" ), as well as public (AP investigation into the gas pipeline bidding process) to suggest that she will self-destruct in time. Trusting God to direct her, she proceeds nilly-willy into things- figuring it "will work out okay in the end" (not too unlike Bush did in going to war and "God knows" what else). With little fear on her part (since God is directing all this, why worry?) - she sometimes have won big with this "world" (or is it "heavenly") view of how things should work. After all, like the Blues Brothers, she is on " a mission from God"...
Unfortunately, either her cellphone breaks down time to time in its pickups from the "Big Guy" (or Gal) upstairs, and things just don't go as hoped.
She just seems to have that propensity to "step in it" ... and I think she will self-destruct given time. One just can't get away with NOT thinking about consequences - just because you think God will sort it all out in the
end. Again, Bush is a good example of this.
In a way, it does work out well in the end- because we are usually spared to suffer under such folks for long. They do themselves in. Sometimes it takes a while, and that's sad... as so many lives can be affected before it falls apart.-
Posted By: Vypurr @ 10/26/2008 10:09:33 AM
Like Obama, you're the perfect pacifist. You think everything will be fine leaving the world alone and left to its own devices. In fact, I'm sure you'll have your blinders on and be very comfortable when Russia sets its nukes in Venezuela, and I'm sure you'll say "so sad" when Iran gets it nukes and puts Israel on its hit list! Not our problems!
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Posted By: Itchy @ 10/26/2008 11:00:05 AM
Is this, like, a rant that you keep on file to cut n' paste whereever you see a comment button? I mean, who or what are you responding too, exactly?
I do hope you're writing from Iraq, living in your flack jacket, waiting for the next ambush from one of the people we 'liberated'. Otherwise, I'd say you're just another warmonger willing to play the lottery with other peoples' lives.-
Posted By: Forty4 @ 10/26/2008 11:26:37 AM
It doesn't look like a rant to me.... and s/he doesn't look a war monger either. The original post suggests Bush acted without thinking about the consequences. That can only mean the Iraq war.
With Iran, we can by-pass all the meaningless resolutions and sanctions, as history says they won't work, and then leave. If you do otherwise, you're a "war monger!"
Certainly you won't suggest Obama do otherwise with Iran when he's told "no" to ceasing their nuke program.... God forbid if he's seen as another Bush!-
Posted By: Itchy @ 10/26/2008 12:07:28 PM
Look a little more closely. Viper (oops, Vypurr) is responding to just three words from the original comment that does not address in the slightest the ideas raised by the comment. Instead, he/she responded with a personal attack against ('pacifist' indeed...as if that's a terrible thing). And went off on a tangent about Russia, Venezuela, Iran and what have you.
So, if we can't agree it's a rant, we can at least agree that it's just more populist hoohaw scare tactics? I'd much rather trust the calm intellect of an Obama against the hotheaded privileged anti-intellectualisms of a McCain, Palin or Bush to handle the coming crisis with Iran.
Maybe if the McCain and the Republicans hadn't fed the Iranian war machine during the 80s, the world be a little less frightening to you.-
Posted By: Vypurr @ 10/27/2008 9:13:03 PM
Actually, there was little point to the original post. It was mainly opinionated drivel about Palin's religion and cell phone break downs. She "seems to have a propensity to step in it?' Whatever.
Iran doesn't frighten me as you suggest. You and Obama thinking his "calm intlect" is going to sway Ahmadinejad from being bent on getting his nukes and his obsession with Israel's destruction is what's frightening, because it isn't going to happen.
BTW, yes, IMO there is something inherently wrong with being a pacifist in todays world. Funny, the left blames Bush for allowing 9/11 to happen, but anyone who has learned from that and sees any future danger is guilty of "populist hoohaw scare tactics!"
And you blame McCain for arming the Iranians? Give me a break! Next you'll have him on the grassy knoll!
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Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/27/2008 8:49:58 PM
OPEN LETTER TO GOV. PALIN
How do you call Senator Obama palling around with terrorists, un-American, when your own husband was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party founded by Joe Vogler, when you just recently gave a speech for their convention and said: Keep the good work, God Bless You. A party that seeks secession from the United States of America. What about your friends Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll members of the AIP as well. Why don???t you apply the same rhetoric you are using: What does that say about you as a person and your judgment? You have been less than ???candid??? about the Palin???s association with the AIP and what are YOU hiding?
How do you call Senator Obama someone that is going to spread the wealth around? When he was strictly talking about taxes distribution. You said he had socialistic ideas.
So, Are you a Socialist as well when you hiked taxes on oil companies to ???distribute??? them to Alaskan? You sent a check for over 3,200 per person to Alaskan at home, so is that distribution OK?
What about building the sport complex on Mr. Lundgren???s land and then Wasilla sued him and The nature Conservancy to obtain the land title. You may see that in Cuba or other Communist countries not in the USA. So, does that make you a communist as well?
How do you say that Senator Obama is going to be tested by a crisis distorting what Senator Biden said, when you could be a REAL threat yourself is something happens to Senator McCain (very plausible having his cancer history and age 72) and you become President. How could you handle a national or international crisis or test of your presidency?
How do you talk about bringing out Rev. Wright and Senator Obama, when you have not be candid about your own religious ritual of witchcraft and Pastor Thomas Muthee. No mention of your own statements in your church.
How do you call Senator Obama a tax and spend liberal, when you took Wasilla with no debt and left it with a 22 million debt and still paying for the sport complex saga. You have charged the taxpayers for family travels and hotels that have raised many eyebrows.
You just spent republican campaign donors money in a shop spree of 150K at the most expensive stores in America and we do not buy your post-discovery excuses, you tried them and bought them for yourself and even the family, you could have gone to a less expensive store if you have wanted, you betcha.-
Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/27/2008 8:51:37 PM
OPEN LETTER TO GOV. PALIN
Part II-
How do you say Senator Obama is hiding who he is, when you were not yourself forthcoming to the bi-partisan senate investigation which found you GUILTY, yes Guilty of breaching Ethics laws. You have been ordered by a judge to keep your private emails that you outrageously used to conduct State business concealing those from public access to avoid Alaskan Freedom of information Act. Even demanding 15 millions to provide State info to the press. Your administration is far from transparent.
You have not provided any real tough interview, so Who is hiding the truth here?
You have not been candid either about your medical record (MIA) and about who built your house? What is the relationship with the sport complex contractor?
How do you say that Senator Obama does not have the experience to lead, that you have more experience that Senators Obama & Biden combined, when the own republican people in charge of ???training you??? have said: "Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic,", it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history.
And where was your experience in controlling the meth labs spread in Wasilla, how are you going to reform WA if you can???t control Wasilla?
How do you call Senator Obama a celebrity and elitist when you have enjoyed to be the Star of the show, your own people call you ???Diva??? and you call your family: The First Family of Alaska. Have you heard about the First Family of Arkansas? Or the First Family of Mississippi or Louisiana or.....
Having you as a potential President is the real Scary thing in this whole campaign!
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Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/27/2008 8:46:59 PM
OPEN LETTER TO GOV. PALIN
Part II-
How do you call Senator Obama a celebrity and elitist when you have enjoyed to be the Star of the show, your own people call you ???Diva??? and you call your family: The First Family of Alaska. Have you heard about the First Family of Arkansas? Or the First Family of Mississippi or Louisiana or.....
Having you as a potential President is the real Scary thing in this whole campaign!
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Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/27/2008 8:31:21 PM
Go to factcheck.org and see the entry at "Spread The Tax Hooyey!" It refutes the tired old "Socialist" and "Redistribution" propaganda we continue to see at this site.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 10/27/2008 8:29:21 PM
Re: Abramoff Republican strategists expressed some relief that the damage could be limited. Carl Forti, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, said that if Abramoff's revelations ensnare only one lawmaker and some unknown staff members, Democrats will have little chance of sparking a political revolt when voters go to the polls in November to elect a new Congress.
But now that Abramoff has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in exchange for a lighter prison sentence, he could provide testimony highly damaging to other high-level lawmakers. DeLay is not mentioned, but court documents do single out his former deputy chief of staff, Tony C. Rudy. The documents detail 10 monthly payments totaling $50,000 that went to the wife of an aide identified as "Staffer A." In exchange, that aide, identified elsewhere as Rudy, helped torpedo Internet gambling legislation and a postal-rate increase, according to Abramoff's plea agreement.
Moreover, numerous references to Abramoff-financed trips to Scotland and the Northern Mariana Islands raised anew questions about DeLay's own trips to both locations with Abramoff.
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I said that Stephens would be convicted....
If Sarah Palin does not Pardon Stephens, Abramoff and Stephens will Out Sarah & Todd Palin as well. She will Pardon Stephens and her Career in Politics, liken unto George W. Bush Pardoning Scooter Libby...
Palin is Republican Toast
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