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  • Posted By: LDJ Alabama @ 10/27/2008 8:30:08 PM

    NEWS ALERT! GREAT NEWS!!! "Joe the Plumber" has decided to cast his vote for BO. The alternative was to face 24 months in jail for speaking up and asking tough questions.

    Progressives (aka liberal elitist) took Joe's vote, shook hands and sentenced Joe to 4 to 8 LONG, dreadful years of socialism and higher taxes. Democracy at its best!

  • Posted By: tara52722 @ 10/26/2008 8:26:55 PM

    nowforthetruth...........you obviously don't understand basic accounting. In order to be taxed in the higher tax bracket you have to have a REVENUE of 250,000, that is money left AFTER expenses, such has salary. SO, if you were to have a revenue of 250,000 per year, and you decided to hire an employee at 50,000 per year, now you would only have a revenue of 200,000 per year, and ta dah........you now fall under the lower tax bracket. Get it, if you have 250,000 left after expenses then quit your complaining and pay the taxes, your obviously doing better than the average American.

    • Posted By: mickeyj @ 10/26/2008 9:23:19 PM

      Ahhh, not quite. Revenue is income BEFORE expenses. PROFIT is revenue AFTER expenses. C'mon ya Obama supporter, figure it out. Oh, that's right, if you figured it out you wouldn't be an Obama supporter. Nevermind!!!

      • Posted By: rapidron @ 10/26/2008 10:09:10 PM

        Maybe you should do some reading mickey. There's gross revenue and net revenue. You're taxed as a business on NET revenue. You're wrong.

        • Posted By: mickeyj @ 10/27/2008 8:25:28 PM

          rapidron you should slow down and open your accounting 101 book to read the terms gross profit and net profit. An accountant by trade and can't say I've seen those terms before. Makes sense that you'd think that way after reading your other moronic type rhetoric.

  • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 10/27/2008 3:21:08 PM

    There may be many reasons not to support Obama but for McCain i need only one reason...Palin.
    Is the female version of Bush the best the Republican Party had? Atleast teflon Romney sounded believable. Palin is a parrot who keeps repeating herself when she cant explain a situation.
    McCain can still win this election...if he picks Tina Fey for VP.

    • Posted By: Dromara @ 10/27/2008 4:44:57 PM

      I'll bet Sara knows there was no TV in 1929; Biden doesn't. Moreover, the poor clown thinks FDR was el presidente in 1929. But I suppose we are not allowed to mention these things. If McCain or Palin had made those gaffs, the lefty media mafia would have spent a week having a go at them. I don't know if you have ever read Obama's books and also ' The Case Against Obama", If you have I'm quite sure you would not even think of voting for him. This guy is scary. In a radio interview in Chicago a few years ago, his holiness was talking about using the courts to bring about redistribution of wealth. he said, among other things, that he (Obama) -- unlike the Warren Court -- could "craft theoretical justification for legally ... bringing about economic legal change through the courts". This is not a joke. This joker wants to wants to get into every one pocket, take you mony and spread the joy around. Then there is point about all the sleazy company he keeps (but our intrepid reporters don't want to write about these things); racist, you know!! Now my friend, that's one of many reasons I wouldn't touch this guy with a barge pole.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:59:29 PM

        Hit with a barge pole? On the positive side though - you can parrot what you hear. None of it is true, and you won't bother to look, but you repeat better than a broken record. On the lighter side, there will be some people will not vote for Obama due to race - any many hope it's more than 15 percent lying to the pollsters - and although you are obviously not a bigot, the bigots might post like you.

        • Posted By: Dromara @ 10/27/2008 8:24:13 PM

          Hit with a barge pole?? I said '... I wouldn't touch this guy with a barge pole.' There is a difference, you know; have you not heard that expression? Your brief post confirms you as an Obamite. When some one brings up some facts about his past, he just tells the world "they are not true" and the media mafia and his other fawning fans go along with his comment (he con speak no untruth!!). The comment I made regarding his desire to spread the wealth is in fact true. It's on the internet; you can listen to your hero holding forth in a radio interview from Chicago. Go on, don't be shy, why don't you look it up? And while you are at it, read Obama's books and oh yes, do read "The Case Against Obama".When you accomplish that assignment, then and only then can you say you know something about the guy. He's a con artist of the highest order, and if elected, he will drag your great country down to third world status. Tell me something: do you get tingles running up your legs when you hear Obama speak? I do believe most of the so called reporters in the media mafia experience this ecstasy.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 8:19:51 PM

    Now there is proof. In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama let it slip that he really is as radical as his early political mentors, Davis, Ayers, Wright, etc., and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now, an interview with Obama in 2001, mysteriously overlooked all this time by the main media outlets, proves this fact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    Obama's redistribution and restitution plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

  • Posted By: Savannah @ 10/27/2008 7:12:52 PM

    What an incredibly stupid article. Why would you put these ideas into anyone's heads and possibly influence their vote? Or do you think those people are too stupid to read Newsweek and/or try to understand at this late date who the best candidate is. I'm really surprised at you! Dumb article.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 7:28:25 PM

      You don't surprise at all.

  • Posted By: life2go @ 10/27/2008 4:56:03 PM

    Hey ASKPLUS....I've give one to you. You didn't actually call me a racist....you IMPLIED IT or better yet I took it that way. So one for you, but you still have yet to say one intellectual thing of your own. You sit here and tell everyone else how "extremely out of touch", "hard and angry for no real reason" and yet, I don't believe I have said anything in anger nor am I out of touch, but what I do have is my own thoughts and opinions and it isn't all about just telling other people how stupid they are. You still didn't address anything but the race issue. And throw out some more insults. You are the one that seems out of touch, angry and most of all AFRAID OF GOOD OL DEBATING. That would consist of more than insults and stupidity.

    to: summer4077 @ 10/27/2008 3:31:30 PM. I enjoyed your response and point of view. This is how it came across to me. Yes, our President has been and will hopefully continue to be very influential around the world. You say Global opinion isn't good right now and in some ways that is true, but I have to ask if you have ever been outside the US or isn't just what you hear on the TV? It really stinks that when overseas we are constantly told to not make it obivious we are American, basically being told that because "what for some reason that is a bad thing?"

    I haven't always agreed with everything Bush has done as President, but at the same time we had a smooth talking, say whatever it takes to make people happy President, who didn't want to make anybody unhappy for 8 years before Bush which is why were are where we are today. If Clinton had done his job I truly believe that 9-11 didn't ever have to happen. Best thing about Bush was he has made sure to PROTECT THIS COUNTRY. Atleast he WASN'T AFRAID TO DO SOMETHING. We haven't been attacked in the US since Bush took over. He hasn't stuck his head in the sand like Clinton did, and just look the other way, as to not upset anyone.

    I agree flag waving doesn't make you a good patriot. But at the same time why make it an issue, why go out of the way to have it REMOVED? What was so wrong with it that he had it removed? Those are the questions that make me wonder. Small things add up. And this was one of those small things that seems so little at the time, but somehow it matters. I've had friends die for those colors, so yes for someone who wants to be President of the US it should matter.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 5:10:02 PM

      Actually, I debate okay. I just don't waste my time with anyone who thinks a flag pin defines your patriotism, or your religion defines your goals. Sadly, I've been called the N-word by two bloggers on this site because I prefer people tolerate each other - and I'm not a minority. My opinion is: The minute you want to talk "who's calling who racist" you lost any debate you may have wanted to partake in. Talk an issue and I'll debate it. If you have read any of my posts, you would know I debate well - considering it's how I support myself. Sometimes I play devils advocate, sometimes I play the other side - but I always use facts vice emotion - do you? The best way to lose is to keep doing what you are doing. Tell people they can't debate - and decry that you can. You would lose points by not being the anti-Palin. I'd read a bit more into summer too.

      • Posted By: life2go @ 10/27/2008 5:50:27 PM

        You say you prefer people tolerate each other...your words say otherwise."The minute you want to talk "who's calling who racist" you lost any debate you may have wanted to partake in" Really what debate did I lose. I gave you the honest truth. I accepted that I took your response in a different way, and admitted it....and yet you still have nothing to say. From what I've read ( and because I do have a life I'll admit to not reading EVERY SINGLE POST THAT HAS BEEN MADE, but from what I've seen I find it hard that you support yourself this way. How can you say you "use facts vice emotion" what facts have you stated....all you've done is throw insult. "The best way to lose is to keep doing what you are doing"...the best way to lose what??? Debating....I'm secure in myself. I'm not the one that feels the need to be insulting on every level and have nothing else to say. I didn't say you couldn't ....I basically said you were AFRAID TO....there is a difference.

        You seem to be the perfect example of what I think is wrong with Democrats (heck a whole lot of peole for that matter). You get so busy spinning the wheel on one point, you can't do anything else. You are so stuck in one mind set, you can't step back and take a fresh, look at a situation. I will not be responding to you any further...I have wasted enough time.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:22:01 PM

          I'm an individual and you want to generalize an entire party due to my words? Too much judgement and intolerance of that parties culture maybe? And don't challenge me - that's so elementary school. Instead tell me which of McCain's closed book-don't-have-clue-but-will-change-everyday plans are widely excepted? Here's another hint: Health care-no, economy -no, environment - hell no, foreign policy - no. After that you can tell me what percentage of our allies support McCain. If you can, you can debate the merits of having an unpopular president with kitchen-sink tactics on top of swift-boating, who lost his party to me. Follow that with why Hagel and six GOPers ran to endorse Mr. Obama. Here's another hint: To a man they do not believe in this war and how he will handle it, none feel he can fix the domestic issues and that he flubbed when he could have talked, and none believe Palin is - acceptable. I get you don't like me, and I'm more than okay with that. I'd be insulted and would have to analyze my existence and regroup if you did sir. But, don't post so Rep then say someone is calling you names - while not touching on a single one of those issues sir. If you do decide to respond - don't come back with some party-line smear. They've all been fact-checked and dismissed by all but the crazies - don't be one.

          • Posted By: MaddiesFace @ 10/27/2008 7:05:17 PM

            You do have a way of making people seem simple when they are and I'm happy to read your posts.

      • Posted By: life2go @ 10/27/2008 5:38:32 PM

        Still nothing. You tell me to pick a topic and you'll debate it. My topics are out there but you haven't had anything of substance to say. You sound as bad as most of the politicians....you talk (judge their opinions)about everyone else but you don't put yourself out there to be judged.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:22:59 PM

          Yeah. Your topic are "out there" for sure. Way out.

  • Posted By: jgarciaii @ 10/27/2008 4:56:39 PM

    I agree we need a change from the Bush years but not to socialism. Everyone points to the past 8 years as being the worst in history however it has been the past 2 years that the democrats have been in control and that was when things really turned bad. Bush has made himself an easy target for the left-wing socialists in this country. To change from democracy to Obama/Biden socialism is the wrong type of change. You can look to the south in Venezuela to see what a fine job Hugo Chavez has done in changing a country from democracy to socialism. Stealing from the rich to give to the poor is extremely short-sighted. ???Give a man a fish??????. We do not need a welfare state but to hear the Obama rhetoric, we will be going back to old principals that didn???t work in the past. Nothing new in his ideas - just old practices that failed before. We need good jobs through education and re-training not the government "jobs" that Obama has proposed and we are paying for (more welfare).
    If the Oprah Winfrey's, Bruce Springsteen's, and Billy Joel's of our country want to give more of their money to the government to spend on welfare, set up a fund for them to do that. The average "Joe" like me are taxed enough and are struggling to make ends meet even without the Obama Welfare Plan.
    Don???t let the ???same as the last 8 years??? rhetoric scare you into giving up your freedom and our democratic principals.
    In regards to the new tape, I think we should try to cover this up like the rest of the questionable personal traits and views from Obama. How someone dares challenge the coronation of our Messiah is unfathomable be his name Joe or Tito or anyone else. The truth has no place in a bias media.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 5:22:32 PM

      Yeah, socialist. Yeah, the Obama Welfare Plan. Sure. You betcha.

      • Posted By: Vypurr @ 10/27/2008 5:50:37 PM

        AP, Finally you said something that made sense.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:07:04 PM

          Thank you sir - we're still waiting on you.

      • Posted By: jgarciaii @ 10/27/2008 5:52:18 PM

        Who do you think will be paying for all these "jobs" that Obama is proposing through his "Community Organizations"? These "jobs" are nothing more than more welfare. There are always people who want something for nothing. There are always people who think that the government should give them everything. The government didn't give my parents welfare. They made it on their own and were proud of what they had. We didn't have a lot when we grew up but what we had, we were happy with. Those same values were what I grew up with and how I raised my children. All three of them have real jobs, pay taxes, and are proud of the citizens they have become. Is it easy ??? hell no. The easy life is the Obama way. Let BIG government do everything for you.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:06:19 PM

          Sure. What's McCain's plan? And why does every expert, pundit and specialist discount his plans. His best plan to date was copied from the Clinton plan. How are Mr. Obama's plans received? Issues, sir issues. McCain will not talk economy or environment - he can't.

  • Posted By: smiguel1979 @ 10/27/2008 5:44:50 PM

    I am not sure what people see in Obama, he talks a lot but he hasn't SAID anything. He spends most of his time talking around subjects. I am and have alway been an avid McCain supporter. I get so tired of everyone saying that Palin isn't qualified to be president of the US and that she is the reason McCain campaign is faultering, do these same people support Barak Obama for PRESIDENT? Do they realize this man has not experience whatsoever! He has no real experience with Foreign Policy, and we are at war people and not just with Iraq! He has no experience with anything that I feel in a daily function of a President for the most powerful country in the world, we are handing our freedom and future over to a man who doesn't really like this country and the values this country was built on. I get so mad I want spit! I really don't care what his reasoning is, if you can't salute the flag for the country you are running for you should not be allowed to run, he doesn't place his hand over his heart when our national anthem is on? These are the kind of this that will tear a country a part. We have to stand together and realize that these things to not represent war and chaos they represent "the land of the FREE and the HOME of the BRAVE" ! Please I plead to people take your rose color glasses off and see this man for what he really is, a lying, manipulating, con artist who is in line to take responsibility for your future.

    • Posted By: eagles1776 @ 10/27/2008 6:46:51 PM

      Please enlighten us as to what John McCain has said with regards to issues. Al he and his "Ahem" VP choice do is attack and tell lies.

    • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 10/27/2008 5:51:56 PM

      Your strong emotion is obvious, but your logic and honest representation of the facts are not! Read my comment below which addresses everything you have said.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:01:58 PM

        It does seem McCain is saying a lot about Obama - and has not and will not touch an issue. It's crazy how the Reps keep blaming the Dems for the things that they themselves do. A bit frustrating that they seem so dense in their assessments. One hope they're just playing politics and are not so ignorant.

  • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:45:40 PM

    If the assassination attempt ever got off the ground:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/27/obama-assassination-plot_n_138297.html

    Would the culprits call themselves real Americans? Would Palin call them pro-America - or terrorists?

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 6:29:14 PM

    In this video, Obama, who claims he has "no ties with Acorn" notwithstanding the $800,000 paid to an Acorn group during the primaries, is campaigning at a convention of Acorn and I believe two other Community Activist's organizations. Ask if he will be their ally if he becomes President and pledge to meet with leaders of Acorn and the others in his first year, Obama says, quote:

    "Yes, but let me say that before I even get inaugurated, during the transition, we are going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda."

    See and hear it for yourself. Obama promised that Acorn and a couple of other groups like it will setting his agenda if elected even before he is inaugurated:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/27/2008 5:42:26 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Citizen Radio Interview criticizing the Warren Court as not radical enough for not pursuing redistribution of wealth.

    Says that community organizing is for the purpose of assembling the political power to force redistribution of wealth.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 10/27/2008 6:32:07 PM

      NowfortheTruth asserts that the goal of community organizing is to "redistribute wealth."

      The real goal of community organizing is to assemble political power for those who historically have had none: the poor and minorities. Some community organizations exist to redress the fact that white banks have refused to loan money to black clients. If you want to call this "redistribution of wealth," go right ahead. The rest us will continue to call it racism.

      And when it comes to discussing "redistribution of wealth" and calling Obama a socialist, it is time for you to rethink that strategy. You might be stepping into a huge pile of dog doo-doo, Now fortheTruth.

      Did you see McCain on Meet the Press this Sunday? Tom Brokaw played two clips of when McCain was against the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. McCain sings the praises of "redistribution of wealth" and says "wealthy people can afford more taxes."

      When McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, he said that he was taking a "principled stance." But when Obama opposes these same tax cuts, McCain labels Obama as a "socialist." Nice double standard, John.

      The doo-doo gets deeper, Now for the Dog Stuff on my Hoof.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 6:02:39 PM

      Now for the DOOF.

  • Posted By: mnflazfl @ 10/27/2008 10:17:06 AM

    Come on people. Study! We need to bolster our middle class that is diminishing daily. This trickle down isn't trickling. Instead the wealth is moving upward; the wealthy class is getting richer, the poor class is getting poorer. That's not what we have in mind. Read and study what Obama's plans are. They have been lauded by the most intelligent economists that the United States has produced. We have to believe in him if we don't want to continue on the same path. Name one difference between Bush and McCain as far as an economic strategy. You honestly cannot. The only difference McCain voices is a spending freeze on everything except security. What happens to the rest of our problems during this freeze. And even with this freeze he doesn't believe he can balance the budget in less than four years. Wake up! Don't stay with what used to be Republican policy. It has changed. Trickle down doesn't work.

    • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 10/27/2008 12:31:10 PM

      Since when have poor people created jobs? How can they possibly spend enough to stimulate the economy and therefore produce jobs? They have lived beyond their means for so long and are so far in debt that they can't even pay their utility bills. Now that credit is being tightened, low to moderate income families are going to be forced to bring their spending back in line with their income. Even an UN-earned tax credit isn't going to be enough to stabilize unemployment. Why not check out the difference between John F. Kennedy's plan to stimulate the economy & Jimmy Carter's. Look at the results and then decide what direction our next President needs to take to right this economy. Unlike many of you, I am just asking you to examine this bit of history for yourself with an open mind and then decide.

      • Posted By: rdunton @ 10/27/2008 6:03:16 PM

        Your right. Poor people don't produce jobs. However, the money they spend does.
        If they have more money to spend, which they would with Sen. Obama's tax cuts for the poor and middle class, then the poor and middle class will use the extra spending ability to purchase merchandise they need and want. The merchandise is bought from businesses that will need MORE workers because of the increased demand for their merchandise. Because of the greater profits from an increased demand for their products, the business wil have MORE money to hire the new workers. MORE people are employed and the cycle continues.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 10/27/2008 5:44:36 PM

    McCain was a war hero and deserves recognition and credit for that! However as a presidential candidate he has consistently demonstrated that he has no answers to the problems, barely comprehends what the problems really are, has shown poor choices in his decision making, has (as he has all of his career) jumped all over the place changing what he says in trying to gain advantage and then made the ridiculous impulsive decision to select Palin as his running mate (who is unqualified, aggressive, arrogant, obnoxious, dishonest and totally self-focused). The thought of Palin in higher office is extremely scary and all McCain-Palin really offer is more of the same Bush-Cheney focus on Special Interests and a select few while irresponsibly neglecting everything else. Put their irrational attacks on Obama-Bidden aside and objectively read Obama's 'Closing Speech' to see a quality approach to everything in sharp contrast to the empty and desperate rhetoric McCain-Palin offer.

  • Posted By: jrogers9909 @ 10/27/2008 9:17:35 AM

    He's only going to win because he's black. Quite the opposite. How can you say 95% of black people are voting for him for any other reason but because of color. You're fooling yourself to think otherwise. If I vote McCain, it's not because he's white, it's because his policies are better. People are voting for Obama because they think they need more diversity or for the historical moment. He's got no experience no matter hwo you cut it.

    • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 10/27/2008 11:50:02 AM

      Actually, the most recent polls show 98%. If 98% of whites were voting for McCain, we would definitely call it what it is...racism. With Republicans winning the last two elections, how can anyone say that if they win this one it is because we are a bunch of racists? There is something called principals and morals that are more important than the historic nature of this election. If a black man, black woman, white man or white woman ever want my vote, they will share my values.

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 12:07:46 PM

        What morals are you referring to ?

        • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 10/27/2008 3:13:51 PM

          I am both fiscally & socially conservative. I refuse to compromise my beliefs for the sake of being "politically correct". We have become a nation of morally corrupt, lazy, self indulgent people that look for every opportunity to change the rules rather than live within them. We cannot redefine morality or responsibility for anyone. I for one do not believe that the United States of America is beyond a time when family values meant something. When fathers cared for their children, wives and husbands supported each other; when nature not a courtroom dictated what a marriage was. When if you wanted something, you worked for it and appreciated what you had. When we cared for each other because it was the right thing to do, not because a politician legislated it. I will continue to look to leaders that support my view of what America once was and can be again.

          • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 5:41:24 PM

            i agree with you on fiscal, and cultural. But the government doesn't belong in people's bedrooms. That is the beauty of this country. The people whose rights we should fight hardest for are the people who we like the least. Leave the gay folks out of it.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 1:01:15 PM

          The ones you seem to be missing with your rants and lack of support for your candidate. You guys just attack the opponent - and never, ever, ever support your candidates - plans.

          • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 2:26:02 PM

            So, you are defending the comments of a partisan republican instead of mine? This reminds me of the primaries

            • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 10/27/2008 3:36:32 PM

              That's what happens if you actually put some thought into your decision rather than blindly following the liberal crowd. I hope that you continue to question what is best for you and this country and make an informed decision based on that. It is apparent that we don't share some of our political views, but I commend you on at least being engaged in the process with thoughtful dialog.

    • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 10/27/2008 9:36:54 AM

      Please! How many times do you Republicans keep trying this tired old line. If you have been awake for the last 40 years you would realize that African Americans always vote 95% for Democrats regardless of race.

  • Posted By: Tunji @ 10/27/2008 10:36:45 AM

    What exactly is the author's conclusion? Oh, he missed the hypothesis where Obama pulls out of the race because of his ailing grandmother and gifts McCain the presidency! Really! A Mccain victory would look like only one thing...2000 revisited. A stolen mandate as in what's started happening in West Virginian counties.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 12:09:11 PM

      Why would Obama pull out of the race for his grandmother, when he threw her under the bus for political expediency in March? His visiting granny has a partially political motive.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 12:53:33 PM

        That is a lie and you know it - yet you guys have to keep repeating it like it is true. Now that's a Rep. Smile a little and stop being so - bitter.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 2:22:22 PM

          Who are you guys? Do you realize how narrow minded and judgemental you come across?

          • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:23:09 PM

            Narrow-minded: Same answer as above. Narrow-minded is a liberal trait right? Or is it maybe, possibly - conservative?

          • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:16:47 PM

            Isn't that the definition of Rep? Close-minded?

  • Posted By: jeallensr @ 10/27/2008 12:55:58 PM

    So again we are told that if Obama doesnt win then the reason must be that there are too many uneducated, uninformed racists still in this country? How sad. Genuine questions about his past performance in roles that were supposed to have prepared him for the presidency are always discounted as petty and based on a dislike of his color. The man has remarbable charisma but look to his past for his "foot prints". Where is the landmark legislation under his name from the Illinois state senate or the US senate for that matter? He has worked the system in each instance to move onto the next step. A leader takes chances. A leader does what is right no matter the risk to future advancement. No matter how many times I've looked for this part of him I've failed to find it. But of course then perhaps I'm just an ill informed racist after all

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 1:20:43 PM

      He has played the system like a violin. Many of his supporters dismissed the Clintons as racists. He personally dismissed civil rights activist and former VP nominee Geraldine Ferraro as racist. He trashed his grandmother and anyone else who got in his way, all for political expediency. He is a brilliant, all be it flawless orator and politician. If I vote for Obama, it will be because I am a democrat, and this is not a good year to go against my party. However, if I vote for Obama it will be with great reluctance, no enthusiasm, with no trust, despite of his lack of experience on the national scene, despite his mysogony, and despite the tactics he has been using all year. His race is a plus, but its value has been magnified deftly with divisiveness.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 1:25:01 PM

        You are just not that bright. You smear. You distort, and you haven't defended your choice - you attack others.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 2:15:05 PM

          Apparently I am much brighter than you are. I am willing to state my reservations about the candidate in an honest and well thought out comment in this forum. If anyone disagrees with you, then you make wild accusations. How closed minded.

          • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:51:14 PM

            Youare brigher see:

            Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:18:51 PM
            Comment: This is not good blogging and is a smear told by fools...

            Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 12:09:11 PM
            Comment: Why would Obama pull out of the race for his grandmother, when he threw her under the bus for political expediency in March? His visiting granny has a partially political motive.

            That pretty much loses your credibility. Can this lie be defined as say - lock step.

            You're a genius.

            • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 5:36:49 PM

              Cut and paste, then change around the insult a little bit. Very original

            • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 5:32:14 PM

              I don't mind losing credibility with someone who comes across as a narrow minded partisan troll. Obama has tossed people aside or embraced them when it is politically expedient. That is an opinion, you may share it or not. At one point or another he had conflicting feelings about the Clintons, Geraldine Ferraro, Reve Wright, Fr. Flager, etc. You come across as a pompous windbag

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 1:13:31 PM

      Sad, but true. Just read the posts. What percentage is tolerant - include yourself.

  • Posted By: tcodd86 @ 10/27/2008 12:31:31 PM

    Why is the operating assumption in this article that you must be a racist to vote for McCain? There are plenty of good reasons to vote for McCain besides him not being black.

    • Posted By: HAL--- @ 10/27/2008 12:53:20 PM

      "...plenty of good reasons to vote for McCain besides him not being black."
      Read that sentence carefully. What you are saying is one reason to vote for McCain is HE'S NOT BLACK.
      Nice Freudian slip.

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 1:21:40 PM

        Obama's race is a plus. However, his lack of experience on the national scene is a minus.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 1:26:15 PM

          See. Typical Rep bringing up race - while saying race is being brought up. That is a loser tactic.

          • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 2:17:40 PM

            I didn't bring up race, it was in response to a comment that did, and this very article did. Why is it you assume anyone who isn't in lock step with your Obama check boxes is a republican? Isn't this forum to promote dialogue and discussion amongst those with different opinions?

            • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:18:51 PM

              This is not good blogging and is a smear told by fools...

              Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 12:09:11 PM
              Comment: Why would Obama pull out of the race for his grandmother, when he threw her under the bus for political expediency in March? His visiting granny has a partially political motive.

              That pretty much loses your credibility. Can this lie be defined as say - lock step.

              • Posted By: News and Notes @ 10/27/2008 5:35:38 PM

                It is not a smear, it is an opinion. You're out here smearing and name calling anyone who doesn't agree with you

            • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:14:46 PM

              Lock step - like Bush/McCain?

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 12:44:48 PM

      Isn't that normally a question a guilt-ridden racist would ask? People who have no problems with other cultures would not even ask that question. Why do they keep posting that? No one thinks anyone is racist for voting for McCain. Personally, I think people voting for Palin are pretty dumb however - but not racist.

      • Posted By: neeka @ 10/27/2008 2:37:19 PM

        You are obviously sexist.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 10/27/2008 4:19:47 PM

          Obviously. I get that. Sure. I see it now.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 10/27/2008 5:29:06 PM

    As if anyone believes Palin was always going to give all of the clothes to charity and as if $150k was justified by any rationale. Clothing allowance, then 'Joe the Plumber', now 'Tito the Builder'- real people stating real opinions? Let???s get real. Objective listeners being rational would have to see through all of the intentional twisting of everything and how ridiculous those things are. Example: Why do they always neglect to note that Obama's plan only advocates higher taxes for the top 5%, those who have been placated and patronized by the Bush Admin and the Republicans all along, and that it calls for real tax breaks for the middle-class who are the backbone of the country and who have been neglected, lied to, given apathy, and the costs for years? And why do they advocate the continuing of that inequity by saying the top 5% pay a large percent of the taxes but then neglect to ever point out that their incomes have actually grown by more than twenty times what everyone else's have? McCain-Palin and the Republican Party are trying to hide the facts and neglect addressing the issues with real solutions while they propose to actually just continue with more of the same.

  • Posted By: jgarciaii @ 10/27/2008 4:54:01 PM

    I agree we need a change from the Bush years but not to socialism. Everyone points to the past 8 years as being the worst in history however it has been the past 2 years that the democrats have been in control and that was when things really turned bad. Bush has made himself an easy target for the left-wing socialists in this country. To change from democracy to Obama/Biden socialism is the wrong type of change. You can look to the south in Venezuela to see what a fine job Hugo Chavez has done in changing a country from democracy to socialism. Stealing from the rich to give to the poor is extremely short-sighted. ???Give a man a fish??????. We do not need a welfare state but to hear the Obama rhetoric, we will be going back to old principals that didn???t work in the past. Nothing new in his ideas - just old practices that failed before. We need good jobs through education and re-training not the government "jobs" that Obama has proposed and we are paying for (more welfare).
    If the Oprah Winfrey's, Bruce Springsteen's, and Billy Joel's of our country want to give more of their money to the government to spend on welfare, set up a fund for them to do that. The average "Joe" like me are taxed enough and are struggling to make ends meet even without the Obama Welfare Plan.
    Don???t let the ???same as the last 8 years??? rhetoric scare you into giving up your freedom and our democratic principals.
    In regards to the new tape, I think we should try to cover this up like the rest of the questionable personal traits and views from Obama. How someone dares challenge the coronation of our Messiah is unfathomable be his name Joe or Tito or anyone else. The truth has no place in a bias media.

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