Mr. Fineman,
Do you have one reference or shred of proof that Obama supporters oppose winning the war in Afghanistan? If not, then why insinuate it? Afghanistan is not Iraq. Even a college kid in jeans knows that.
Mr. Fineman,
Do you have one reference or shred of proof that Obama supporters oppose winning the war in Afghanistan? If not, then why insinuate it? Afghanistan is not Iraq. Even a college kid in jeans knows that.
Too bad the president doesn't.
IS ANYBODY SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING OBAMA'S MARTIN LUTHER KING TYPE SPEECHES ?
FACT IS, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST FRAUD IN USA POLITICAL HISTORY.
IF OBAMA IS ELECTED....I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL AMERICANS STUPID !!
Who cares what a foreigner thinks? Look after your own country. We don't really need or want your input. Thanks.
Being all things to all people is indeed a heavy burden! Let the games begin in Feb.! I want action-
where is the change you promised? I still don't have insurance. Too muched promised is going to
backfire>
"where is the change you promised? I still don't have insurance. "
You should probably wait until after Obama wins to start that nonsense. Just saying.
Doc Howl
Run a Staffing Agency and your "95% WILL WORK "is pure fantasy . Let me know where they are?
Have Good Jobs. no workers? BLS Stands for What. Your comment is good for a laugh in the real world!!
OBAMA SUPPORTERS WILL EXPECT GOVERNMENT TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING FOR THEM. THE GOVERNMENT ONLY GETS ITS MONEY FROM THOSE WHO PAY TAXES. OBAMA SUPPORTERS SEEM TO THINK IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO TAKE MONEY FROM THOSE WHO WORK HARD AND PRODUCE. MAKING RICH PEOPLE POOR DOES NOT MAKE POOR PEOPLE RICH. SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK AND IT NEVER WILL. OBAMA AND BIDEN = TRICKLE UP POVERTY.
Lies don't become true just because you put them in all caps.
Just saying.
What has "the ONE" created. A massive radical borderline violent grassroots structure willing to engage in levels of voter fraud to get "The ONE they've been waiting for" elected that's never been seen before in this country. An Obama victory will give the most radical left wing hate elements of American society a feeling of political empowerment and entitlement. We poor bitter, gun toting, bible thumping Americans had better get ready because the people at Move.on.org don't take prisoners.
You should probably put more tinfoil in your hat, then.
Chances are, under Obama's tax plan, he'll be able to afford more tin foil
Good. Poor guy needs it to protect himself from Obama's orbital mind control lasers.
LOL.
Replace "Obama" with "Bush," "left-wing" with "right-wing," "voter fraud" with "election fraud," and you have the last eight years. That's not doomsday prognosticating... it's already come to pass.
If Obama wins you could expect to see Putin breaking out the vodka, and dancing in the streets in Gaza and Tehran. Then just sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack to come.
Go scare some sheep.
a perfect response to such nonsense... I'm stealing it Doc ;-)
That's okay...I lifted it from Kipling ("Cleared"...give it a google and read it. It could have been written for the Bush presidency).
Brighteramerica;
You represent what group? brighter- as in light or in getting the real facts? Look to more than one
source. But of course you will have a prepared answer for that > Thanks Anyway
As it stands now, the rich pretty much write everything off and/or defer their money so they end up paying hardly no taxes. The working and middle class pay most taxes.
What about the 40+% of Americans that pay no taxes? Do you think they should receive their share from people who do pay into this country. Im so sick of the entitlement. That is not what this country is all about. Barack Obama is in favor for the very things Thomas Jefferson spoke against. We do not punich people for success and hard work. That IS un-American.
Which specific things that Jefferson spoke out against?
This is a great falsehood. Check statistics and you will find the top 5% of wage earners in the United States pay 92% of the overall income tax.
Good. They benefit more, they should pay more. Hell, the Roman patricians were proud of how much they paid...and when they stopped, their empire declined. (It didn't CAUSE the decline, but it was definitely a symptom).
BrigherAmerica :
So the "Big Bad Rich " people are the only ones who use the tax code to their advantage. NOT SO!
If The IRS were to really check some of the duductions that the "Honest Workling Class" have on
their tax forms they could collect millions! There are tax preparers who will let you decide how much
you want to claim say to Church etc and tell you that the IRS will never check. Paying the fair share
it seems depends on a lot of things.
Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/25/2008 7:34:31 PM
Comment: Actually, he was employed in the private sector after retiring from the Navy and before running for Congress.
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Yes, you are correct, Johnny worked for his father-in-law, the beer distributor who was involved with the MAFIA and the Keating 5 and who helped Johnny get into the U.S. congress. John McCain was also involved in the Keating 5. Cindy and her father were DEEPLY involved with the Keatng 5. McCain has NO knowledge of the economy and economics governance. He is simply reading the script prepared for him by his speech writer.
You haven't read Bill Whittle's article at realclearpolitics.com. He gives you a link to an Obama audio in which he states that he is an anti-constitutionalist who wants to create socialist measures for the redistribution of wealth.
Wow.
Wow....way to go gloom and doom and pretty much out of thin air, Fineman!
What DO you eat for breakfast?
You wind up the hot air with "the names on those voters....may start talking to each other...may start saying things...White house aides hunched over their computers.....
Halloween is coming, but do we need to start the re-runs yet?
You could write about how DNA and science research is really suspect, and agree with Herself the VP. Something that is really, really without substance if you're determined just to fill up space on the page.
Why is the Los Angeles Times sitting on a videotape of the 2003 farewell bash in Chicago at which Barack Obama lavished praise on the guest of honor, Rashid Khalidi ??? former mouthpiece for master terrorist Yasser Arafat? The party featured encomiums by many of Khalidi???s allies, colleagues, and friends, including Barack Obama, then an Illinois state senator, and Bill Ayers, the terrorist turned education professor. It was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network (AAAN), which had been founded by Khalidi and his wife, Mona, formerly a top English translator for Arafat???s press agency. Back in April, the Times published a gentle story about the fete. Reporter Peter Wallsten avoided, for example, any mention of the inconvenient fact that the revelers included Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Ayers???s wife and fellow Weatherman terrorist. These self-professed revolutionary Leftists are friendly with both Obama and Khalidi ??? indeed, researcher Stanley Kurtz has noted that Ayers and Khalidi were ???best friends.??? (And ??? small world! ??? it turns out that the Obamas are extremely close to the Khalidis, who have reportedly babysat the Obama children
Read about it on the National Review posted today.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDFkMGE2MmM1M2Q5MmY0ZmExMzUxMWRhZGJmMTAyOGY=
funny only the Los Angles Times has a copy and the Rebulicans could not get a copy by now. umm sounds fishy to me, like a totally made up story to do what make people fear again. why not try a more plausable excuse for not voting for Obama. As for your unfounded assertiions that Obama cohorts with terrorist Muslims, what about the proven fact that the Palins are actual members of a terrorist organization in Alaska
paproudmom , if you hire employees, your business income will go down so I don't see how you can still be paying the extra $20,000 especially if your business income drops by $150,000
The 3 jobs would be over several years. With the increased taxes we could not save to be in such a position and would not even take the chance. The 2 were proposed new jobs the third was one we would be replaceing after a retirement. We will not be doing so.
Time FOR SOME STRAIGHT TALK!!
Okay, I'm a Republican by ideology. In fact, I???m a rare breed of Republican ??? I???m highly educated, smart, insightful, successful and very cultured.
I???m QUESTIONING that out of all great GOP leaders in our party, the BEST CHOICE was McCain ? And Palin?
McCain is an OLD fool that does not seem to be in his right mind. McCain cannot even keep his own set of lies straight, or even seem to know where or what he is doing at present !
And for his judgment, just one word ??? Palin!
Come on, Palin !
Palin is a train wreck; SPIN any which way you want she is a HUGH mistake!
Palin is an embarrassment to professional women, the state of Alaska, the GOP and to America.
Is this the BEST my party can do?
WHO EVER is running the show at the GOP, needs his/her head examined?
AND FOR THE RECORD G.W.Bush is much more qualified to be president than McCain or Palin !
Bush was just a little stupid, and that???s not a crime in America, because if being stupid was a crime then 93% of people in America should be locked up !
One final word, I cannot believe that the GOP has become so BADLY misguided that the ONLY SUPPORTERS we really have are the WACKOS and FREAKS !
Only a couple of years ago, those were the types of people we called Democrats, and NOW there are Republicans ??? the losers of society !
Colin Powell, my apologies, I was anger at you, but NOW I understand you !
Finally!!! b
Someonw who actually poays attention instead of pushing the lever for food.
You're Damn Straight that the American Citizens are going to press Obama as the next president hard! And want to be involved in OUR Government, Thats our Right and Our duty. Its like Ralh Nader (my candidate) likes to say, if you just vote for a candidate without any demands, then once that candidate wins the office he doesnt have to provide for you, because you just threw your vote in his direction. Obama received quite a bit of corporate money this election and you know those big corporations are going to come looking for their favors, so Why Shouldn't the American Citizens Have High Expectations for the president? I know myself I want an END to All WAR! I want to get off fossil fuels and onto Solar and Wind power, I want a repeal of both the patriot act and the fisa bill. I want to eliminate the income tax and replace it with taxes on wall st stock market derivatives and a higher sales tax, that way those who want to consume have to pay for it and those who want to save their money can do just that! Yes the Americans BETTER Demand A LOT from the next President! Its Our RIGHT and Our Duty to have High Expectations and to Participate in the Government, after all its a Government of The People, For the People, By the People!
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Yesterday on my way to lunch, I passed one of the homeless guys in that area, with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money."
Once in the restaurant my waiter had on a "Obama 08" tee shirt.
When the bill came, I decided not to tip the waiter and explained to him while he had given me exceptional service, that his tee shirt made me feel he obviously believes in Senator Obama's plan to redistribute the wealth. I told him I was going to redistribute his tip to someone that I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. He stood there in disbelief and angrily stormed away.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $3 and told him to thank the waiter inside, as I had decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy looked at me in disbelief but seemed grateful.
As I got in my truck, I realized this rather unscientific redistribution experiment had left the homeless guy quite happy for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn.
Well, I guess this redistribution of wealth is going to take a while to catch on, with those doing the work.
FRoss3711 - All taxes redistribute wealth. Income taxes take more from the wealthy (because they earn more) and provide more services to the non-wealthy (because the need more). Sales taxes take more (relative to their income) from the workers than they do from the wealthy. Property taxes 'punish' those who own rather than rent. But in the end, all taxes take more from those who 'have' and provide services to those who 'have not'.
Is George Bush a socialist? Regan? Clinton? McCain? They've all supported a progressive tax system.
What about those socialist roads that we drive on? Or fire departments that fight fires and save lives regardless of your ability to pay? Or police departments that protect and serve? Or public schools that educate any child? Or Social Security? Or Medicare?
But here you are crying 'socialist' about a tax change that would move the wealthiest income brackets from 36% to 39%. BIG FRIGGIN DEAL!
Howard, agreed. If Obama wins, maybe his supporters like me expect too much out of the current situation of too little, and perhaps too late? But, and, I closed this issue within myself by accepting that just a change with him in office is comforting and good enough, honestly. Someone who inspires and I believe, will give me, a member of his middle class constituency some thought in processing law and policy. Someone with new tone and articulation, who inspires and is culturally sensitive enough to include all people, not just some like the neo-cos do and have. Just his presence in office is enough to comfort me and get the GOP back to a place they need to be at now...to re-group, re-think, re-assess, re-excite, re-new, re-base, re-center revise, re-energize and review their ill governance. I wish the GOP well and glad they will be gone quite frankly. It can not happen too soon for me and a lot of others. Thank you Howard. I read and absorb your commentary always with respect and admiration. Lynn, an Independent for Obama, Florida
What restaurant did they eat at it sounds good!
Jazzmanjim could you tell us if socialism woks.
You sound like Bush giving a speech, reiterating the same tag line every time you open your mouth.
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