Nukes: Too Deep to Hit

mfenwick said: 'I would give a year's salary if Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt would all gang up on Israel and wipe it off the map. Maybe then all these damn Zionists would shut up and the Jews in this country would move away.'

So this poster finds it fully acceptable to wipe out the people of (fill in your choice) religion based on that religion's beliefs. That means it is fully acceptable, according to the poster, to wipe out the Christians, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Shintos, or Buddhists, or agnostics, etc. etc. if you disagree with their religious beliefs. Therefore the poster finds it fully acceptable for the people of some other religion than his/hers to wipe his/her religion off the map based on his/her regious beliefs. Where does it end???

Has it occurred to anyone that Muslims believe not only in the Koran, but also the Christian Bible which itself includes the Jewish Torah. Therefore the Muslim religion has the same basic beliefs as both Christians and Jewish. The only digression is where the end of the teachings of the common God end. These are not three religions, but a single common religion with the only issue of contention being when God stopped talking to Man. This is not about three great religions, its only a family feud, but with a big family. And resolving a family feud is even more hopeless than resolving religious differences.

For approximately 40 years, it has been all but confirmed that Israel possesses nuclear weaponry; yet no other middle eastern nation has actively moved forward toward creation of a similar program. It is all but guaranteed that the completion of a nuclear program by an unstable country like Iran will promote the need of its neighbors to do the same, something that was not deemed necessary in the past. It is the irrational behavior of Iranian's leadership that will lead to nuclear proliferation.

I by no means condone any sort of nationalistic violence or fascism.
Im still waiting for the war on war.
These is something here I dont understand. Iran???s weapons are deep for Israel to attack and destroy!
I know for sure Israel???s weaponry / technology is more adapt and of a higher quality than Irans. If such weaponry that Isreal imposes cannot reach Iran weapons- then how are Iran???s weapons going to reach Israel, or Europe or much less the U.S. as I have heard Mccain, Palin and others suggest?
Im am so tired of the faer mongering- we need real diplomacy from all countires concerned! Then if that does not work let the neocons blow up the world- its their manifest destiny!

Rather than spend so much angst over trying to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, our time would be better spent figuring out how to co-exist with a nuclear iran. The nuclear genie is out of the bottle - nothing we do or don't do will stop them from getting nuclear bombs if that is ultimately what they choose to do.

We are not that powerful. It is delusional on our part, and the height of arrogance, to think we are.

But we have managed to co-exist with nuclear Russia (the old evil empire) China, India and Pakistan. Even the North Koreans have managed to stay away from the doomsday button. With the right kind of persuasion, so will Iran.

Yes, the current mouthpiece of Iran is worrisome, but he is also a caricature. The situation is very typical - get a loudmouth buffoon to generate a lot of loathsome rhetoric, but have others quietly in the background pulling the strings. (Not unlike our present white house buffoon and his VP). The current Iranian buffoon has a lot less real power than most Americans think he has, but he's damn good at his job - keeping the rabble stirred up.

Iran has no interest in attacking the United States - after all, we buy their oil. They need us. We would be a lot smarter if we figured out how to keep Iran in our debt, rather than continue to isolate and alienate them. And although Iran's favorite pasttime is making noise about attacking Israel, they won't risk an outright attack, because while they don't need Isreal, they do need us.

And imagine what might happen if we could persuade Iran to help us keep nuclear bombs out of the hands of the real threat, guys like bin Ladin. Don't think for a second that Iran wants Al Queda to get the bomb any more than we do - Iranian wealth and power - all wealth and power - is just as vulnerable in the Al Queda scheme of things as the west is.

No - a nuclear Iran is troublesome, but not insurmountable. An isolated, defensive, angry Iran, however, is more of a threat, as is an Iran that gets attacked by Israel or the US. And an Iran that won't lift a finger to help keep nukes out of the hands of Al Queda is most worrisome of all.

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I would give a year's salary if Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt would all gang up on Israel and wipe it off the map. Maybe then all these damn Zionists would shut up and the Jews in this country would move away.

I didn't read this article. I never made it past "Western intelligence experts believe..."

Who is bested suited to lead in these difficult times? The two candidates have had to deal with both a major presidential level decision and a global crisis in the past couple months.

We just witnessed as good a side by side crisis test as you could ask for. Both candidates had to respond to the global financial meltdown, which John's campaign manager Rick Davis called "the worst financial crisis in our nation's history." It was John McCain who was late to recognize what was happening and then couldn't figure out how to respond. He made a dramatic show of suspending his campaign because he knew he needed to seize the initiative politically, but then didn't seem to have any coherent position once he took charge. It doesn't inspire confidence when you say you're going to do something and then back down within days.

On the critical matter of selecting a VP who would step into the Presidency in an emergency, John McCain gives us an unintelligent mediocrity without knowledge or experience in national and international issues. Palin clearly was chosen to fire up the religious right base, but she has little appeal to the vast swath of America. Obama's VP pick is Sentor Joe Biden, who clearly has foreign policy chops and could legitimately step into the Oval Office should the need arise.

John's horrendous POW experience did nothing to prepare him for the job of president. A captive soldier must cope with a situation in which he has no control and can decide nothing. A President of the United States must make good decisions over and over again. Barack Obama has demonstrated the intelligence, calmness and good judgment we so desperately need in a leader for these troubled times. He has been tested repeatedly in this marathon campaign and he has risen to meet every challenge, sticking to his message of hope and change, and not falling into the low-life mud slinging we have seen from McCain.

Obama has better judgement, better temperament, better manners and better ideas that John McCain. I'm a middle-aged white female Christian Republican, and I am voting for Barack Obama.

After reading your comments, it is apparent that pretty much most of you also believe that Santa Claus and the Easter bunny are real. Your understanding of the conflicts engulfing Israel in the Middle East evade you. Judaism and Christianity are not religions, but Faiths. The cause of war in the Middle East is not religion, but ancient jealousy. The more recent instigators of that jealousy attached it to Islam to increase their power base, which worked, but will be unsuccessful. In the end it won't be the instigators who will win or you, but Israel.

To Daru786:
You ask why Iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons? Well here is your answer. India is not ruled by religious fanatics like Iran is. Furthermore, India does not regularly call for the annihilation of its neighbors like the president of Iran does frequently. It is astonishing that you do not realize the fact that you do not realize that religions like Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all very dangerous. Religions are a crutch for the weak and religions are frequently used to justify atrocities. Any government ruled by religious clerics should never be allowed to exist, much less arm its ignorant self with weapons. We should murder all the religious people in the world, including the Iranian clerics, so that the world may be a peaceful community of rational science based policies. Allah is not real. Jesus is not real. Religious people are too ignorant to be allowed to live much less posses powerful weapons. Maybe you should read a little more yourself about how ignorant all Muslims, Jews, and Christians are you fool.

Thanks for throwing in some common sense. Iran's nuclear facilities do pose a threat - but not the way that McCain and the GOP love to frame it. First of all, the Iranian government cannot guarantee the safety of any of its nuclear facilities. Like McCain and the GOP, the Iranian government hates any form of nuclear regulation. Should an accident occur, Iran and its Islamic neighbors who will suffer the effects far faster than israel.
Secondly Iran has not told us how they will dispose of nuclear wastes. In that respect it faces the same problem that nuclear power plants face world-wide - including France, whose nuclear disposal policies have gotten condemnations from the EU. Supposedly Russia is taking care of Iran's nuclear wastes, but what does Russia plan to do - dump the stuff in the Persian Gulf? If the beaches of Abu Dubai start to glow in the dark someday, at least we'll know why.
Our problem is that we do not know how to fight Iran. McCain's proposal to threaten and bomb will not help matters. He fails to understand that Iran is a young nation and that Iran's young are increasingly restive under the rule of the mullahs, since Iran suffers from a high unemployment rate, a high inflation rate, and a chronic shortage of gasoline. Military action would simply generate a rally-round-the-flag campaign. It would provide the mullahs with the diversion they need.
Obama's proposal to begin to talk to Iran in some way makes a lot of sense. So does Obama's plan to free us from the tyranny of oil in 10 years. McCain again has got it wrong. if we decide to stop buying foreing oil, that will not deter terrorists because governments like Iran can always sell their oil to someone else. We will gain the economic leverage we need ONLY if we eliminate the need for oil - both here and everywhere else in the world. Iran for example would be a prime candidate for solar energy - provided we can develop it. Perhaps we need to think of fuel from kelp, algae or even bacteria. These are powerful trump cards.
we need to learn to fight smart. That's a concept Obama understands. That's one reason Obama and his Democratic allies need a sweeping mandate next week.