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  • Posted By: theyrehere @ 10/29/2008 1:06:55 PM

    Whoa there ewoordy2003 - I agree with trucker mama. The fact we have expanded our minds beyond the percieved scientific facts shows what can be discovered when one is open minded. Like her, I have seen ghosts, felt them in the room with me, have been told answers through ESP, read people's minds, & have seen auras. Some of it is truly welcomed. Other incidents are scary stuff; candles floating in the air, doors opening, light surrounding a person, seeing a person/ghost walk through your house or hats being thrown at you. Seeing a "bad" aura is the worst, for example a black cloud swirling around a person. I always leave at that point. The good points? Having "someone" tell you not to drive down a road, thus missing an accident. Call them what you want -ghosts, angels, spirits - they are real and will help make life easier.

  • Posted By: crash327 @ 10/29/2008 12:46:01 PM

    Which came first the sceptic or the believer? We all start out as the sceptic until one day an "event" occurs in which we can not explain, we then become the believer. Some of us grow up with such amazing stories we are programed to be believers, until we become sceptics because of "uneventful" lives. You should try to look out side of the normal as you may possibley be missing out on some of the most amazing sights and feelings you will ever exsperience. I am a "BELIEVER" both raised that way and proven (in my minds eye anyway) and would not trade my exsperiences over the years for anything. Try living with your "minds" eye wide open ... you may be surprised at what you see!

  • Posted By: ewoody2003 @ 10/29/2008 12:27:45 PM

    Nice comment, Trucker mama. A lot of vocabulary you used to refute the article was misspelled. I am one to believe that the brain is a very powerful organ, in which paranormal can be induced by suspicion. One who believes in ghosts, aliens, spooks, and any other paranormal cannot correctly judge the brain activity and the way the brain interprets and creates imagery, feelings, and emotion, due to the fact that they have no relative ???control??? specimen (it is a scientific term used for comparison to the variable). What YOU experience and feel is how YOUR brain has perceived something. These are your beliefs, and an easy explanation, instead of developing a more complex, scientific, and reasonable explanations. This is how I believe ???lazy??? people perceive the world.

    Take for instance the study of light. Would anyone ever have concluded that light consist of particle waves during the ancient Roman times? No, they based all of the reasons for normal events and occurrences to be the acts of numerous GODS, because they could find no other means to explain the events scientifically. As I see it, believing the paranormal exists are ways for humans to interpret what they cannot understand, much like the Romans did during their time. People who believe in the paranormal have yet to evolve to the more sophisticated intellectuals who understand the capability of the mind.

  • Posted By: ewoody2003 @ 10/29/2008 12:27:24 PM

    Nice comment, Trucker mama. A lot of vocabulary you used to refute the article was misspelled. I am one to believe that the brain is a very powerful organ, in which paranormal can be induced by suspicion. One who believes in ghosts, aliens, spooks, and any other paranormal cannot correctly judge the brain activity and the way the brain interprets and creates imagery, feelings, and emotion, due to the fact that they have no relative ???control??? specimen (it is a scientific term used for comparison to the variable). What YOU experience and feel is how YOUR brain has perceived something. These are your beliefs, and an easy explanation, instead of developing a more complex, scientific, and reasonable explanations. This is how I believe ???lazy??? people perceive the world.

    Take for instance the study of light. Would anyone ever have concluded that light consist of particle waves during the ancient Roman times? No, they based all of the reasons for normal events and occurrences to be the acts of numerous GODS, because they could find no other means to explain the events scientifically. As I see it, believing the paranormal exists are ways for humans to interpret what they cannot understand, much like the Romans did during their time. People who believe in the paranormal have yet to evolve to the more sophisticated intellectuals who understand the capability of the mind.

  • Posted By: trucker-mama @ 10/29/2008 11:43:13 AM

    if paranormal is just a state of mind then hell the whole world is going crazy...ghosts are real and ppl just need to come to terms with it ans stop trying to explain the unexplainable.. sciance isnt the answer to everything. u cant tell a kid that its all in your head when they are always telling u that there is somthing going on the more then one person has seen and heard on diffrent times and dates. i beleve the belevers and skeptics should get together and i can garontee that the belevers would outnumber the skeptics..
    so get over urself and let it just happen dont try and explain it ur didnt find anything out. u just came up with an answer to the big question,"what to beleve" .............ghosts, paranormal, spooks, gobblins, hummm, it doesnt take physics to figure out they are real and u cant change the minds of thousands that beleve in them either... so if u think we are going crazy then ur going to have to lock up the whole world cause we all are going crazy to u and u will be alone with ur few hundred dr's that dont beleve. as u have locked up the thousaneds that do..

  • Posted By: RubyBloodDrop @ 10/29/2008 11:13:20 AM

    Gimme a break. I love Science but I also believe in the paranormal. I have had MANY experiences that I would rather not remember dealing with paranormal things to know that science can't just "Explain it away" as some kind of freakin brain activity. Seriously come up with something new. Everyime something unexplainable happens they go straight for the "it must be some kind of brain thing".

    always gotta have a damn answer for something.

  • Posted By: Lorem Ipsum @ 10/29/2008 9:41:12 AM

    Ancestral memory could be the answer when you are talking about skills and abilities, but in my opinion it doesn't make sense when you are talking about reincarnation, why and how would anyone inherit memory genes from an stranger who lived years ago?, or even in a complete different country?

  • Posted By: Lorem Ipsum @ 10/29/2008 9:40:17 AM

    Ancestral memory could be the answer when you are talking about skills and abilities, but in my opinion it doesn't make sense when you are talking about reincarnation, why and how would anyone inherit memory genes from an stranger who lived years ago?, or even in a complete different country?

  • Posted By: Ron Hill @ 10/29/2008 7:07:33 AM

    I know this may sound unreal or perhaps even arrogant, but the research on all of these questions was accomplished back in the early 1950's by L. Ron Hubbard. By reading the results, which are found in his basic books which comprise the subjects of Dianetics and Scientology, you can gain more understanding than you ever thought possible on Man and existence. They are now found in virtually every library in the countrycountry

  • Posted By: Ron Hill @ 10/29/2008 7:02:14 AM

    I know this may sound arrogant or just unreal to most people, but the research on all this sort of thing was done back in the 1950's by L. Ron Hubbard. Anyone can follow the entire track of his research by reading his basic books in sequence. You will have far more understanding of Man and existence than you ever thought possible. These books are now in virtually every library in the country..

  • Posted By: jpooch00 @ 10/29/2008 5:37:45 AM

    Who is this "we" yer talkin' about? Ya got a mouse in yer pocket? I don't believe in any of that silly crap!

  • Posted By: artaxerxes @ 10/28/2008 9:56:10 PM

    There is a relationship between NDE's and the holographic universe theory as written by Michael Talbot that can not be easily explained away. How it is that a housewife from Kansas or a Truck Driver from South Georgia come back after their experience and describe what happened to them in terms that can only be described as "holographic". It also seems to parallel what some quantum physicist have said also. Feelings of overwhelming oneness and connectedness, having "all knowledge," 360 degree vision, time and space not existing, buildings made out of knowledge, feeling like they are literally everywhere in the Universe at once, overwhelming Love (closely paralleling the statements about "oneness"), communicating telepathically, everything being made out of light, and during their life review feeling like they were the other people they interacted with, thinking their thoughts and feeling their emotions, (the life review is a holographic experience par excellance), and seeing colors they've never seen before and hearing sounds they've never heard before. If our consciousness expands after we die and we experience the Universe for what it truly is, a gigantic splendidly detailed hologram all of these descriptions make perfect sense. Human beings are limited to a very narrow range of the light spectrum but if after we die we can see the entire spectrum we'd be able to see colors we've never seen before and perhaps the same thing is true for sound. We can only hear a very narrow range of sound right now, but after we die we may be privvy to a much wider range of the light spectrum and sound spectrum. Dr. Fred Alan Wolf in his book The Spiritual Universe makes the statement that thoughts are things and consciousness creates reality. That would explain buildings made out of knowledge and people's thoughts creating whatever they think of while they are dead.

  • Posted By: adclose @ 10/28/2008 6:11:11 PM

    A good balanced article, perhaps a bit too balanced in giving a sounding board to those who really believe all these things in earnest (including the now-famous Dr. Semkiw who doth protest in his own comment below). It is a sad commentary on how backwards the US is becoming in science, that so many more people people believe in the paranormal now than in the 1980s. That and the popularity on pseudo-science such as creationism and intelligent design makes me concerned about the US maintaining science and economic leadership in the world economy.

  • Posted By: stlview @ 10/28/2008 5:17:42 PM

    Actually, atheism as part of a broader ideology has started wars and led to the oppression and murder of millions. Consider the Russian Civil War and actions taken by the Bolsheviks against those who were religious. Also, please see Stalin and the actions taken against the Orthodox Church and other faiths during the 1930s.

    As for morality, while an atheist might be a moral person, many of those morals are derived from religious faiths; there is no inherent believe in rights of human beings in nature. Indeed, nature favors taking whatever action serves to preserve the individual or group, even if that means attacking another group that poses a potential threat.

    The theory of rights comes from the belief that we are endowed by a creator with rights, not that these are granted by society's conventions. If rights were indeed deemed to flow from a man-made source, then there would logically be no permanent rights because they would be subjective based on the whims of the people alive at any given time.

    The bottom-line is, science can explain mechanisms, which does not necessarily indicate that there isn't something more beyond what we can quantify. It is quite possible that both are true, i.e. that there is both a physical manifestation to explain perceptions as well as a more spiritual aspect (the physical could be the vector through which the spiritual works). To believe in atheism takes as much faith as any other belief system and presupposes that everything can be explained and there is nothing beyond that. Add that most have not actually tested the principles they cite themselves, then are they not taking a certain measure of faith that what they're being told is accurate, through, and has been tested from every angle?

    • Posted By: willowbuffyslayer @ 10/28/2008 5:41:02 PM

      Atheism does not take as much faith as anything else. Atheism is a lack of belief. I don't have to prove something doesn't exist or prove I don't believe it exist. You are the one that needs to prove it does. A

      Are you trying to tell me Stalin caused a war because he was an atheist?

      • Posted By: willowbuffyslayer @ 10/28/2008 5:49:14 PM

        I highly suggest you read the following before telling me about atheism and violence or atheism and morals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

      • Posted By: stlview @ 10/28/2008 5:48:05 PM

        Actually, you do have to prove it - you've made a hypothesis, namely that "God does not exist." Therefore, what evidence do you have that he does not exist?

        As for Stalin or the Bolsheviks, they indeed did persecute people based on their religious views (estimates for the Stalins purges run from 23-40 million killed, starved, etc., many of whom were executed for their religious beliefs in the name of communistic atheism).

  • Posted By: Mr. Blue @ 10/28/2008 5:43:08 PM

    This is a great article. I'm glad to see Newsweek debunk paranormal rubbish. Anybody interested in the skeptical viewpoint should check out the TV show "Penn & Teller: Bullsh**!"

  • Posted By: white trash @ 10/28/2008 5:42:05 PM

    Years ago, my mother's boyfriend, whose wive had died several years earlier. Was sleeping one night, and then awoke suddenly. His wife was standing next to him. He told me she was grayish and somewhat translucent, like the ghosts I saw in my previous post. He thought she was there at his bedside because he believed his end was near. He died shortly after this. My mother kept telling him it was a dream, but he said that he was wide awake as were the sightings my husband and I saw.

  • Posted By: white trash @ 10/28/2008 5:24:22 PM

    I do not believe in any particular religion, but I have experienced the extraordinary. After moving into our current home during the 80's. I witnessed two different spirits or beings, about a year apart. One was a lady who stepped out from behind a lamp on a table, looked at me, surprised I was watching her, then walked across the room and faded into the fireplace. She had on an old-fashioned cotton white dress with large white bottom and short dark hair. She looked as if she were made of smoke. The name that came to my mind was wisp. Then I saw a little girl with long curly hair and she looked golden. When I looked at ther, she acted suprised and her eyes got round with shock. She had a cotton dress on that tied in the back and was white with a large ruffle on the hem. I perceived she was barefoot. One was like smoke and the other like a golden light or haze. The little girl walked across the floor and disappeared into the wall.

    And, my husband saw a man and a little girl one night staring into our bedroom. My husband awoke me and told me there was a man in the house. Minutes later I got up and found two candles burning that we had not turned on. During these episodes I was not on drugs and no alcohol. I have also had other unusual experiences.

  • Posted By: jeremye @ 10/28/2008 4:37:01 PM

    Yes, in the physical world we live in. Science has achieved a lot. Take for example the Nuclear Bomb. Look how far we have come.

  • Posted By: markci @ 10/28/2008 4:21:12 PM

    So 90% of Americans are dolts. There's a real news flash.

  • Posted By: bcorfman @ 10/28/2008 4:20:20 PM

    Turns out that non-religious people are more likely to believe in pseudoscience.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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