I love skeptics especially the very closed minded ones that have been proven wrong so many times in the past ; )
I love skeptics especially the very closed minded ones that have been proven wrong so many times in the past ; )
either side of this arguement is closed minded
could not these socalled ghosts and what not be explained as supernatural powers (i.e. angels, demons, and God almighty)? people claim to have seen aliens but no one nows what angels look like; and acordding to the bible the articles definition of "reincarnation" is absolutly possible (Revelation 11:3-12, Matthew 17:1-3) in revelation the 2 witnesses bear a strong resemblence to moses and elijah; moses rained down plauges on egypt (exodus 8-11) and elijah defeated the prophets of baal (1 kings 18) and both of these men appered with christ at his transfiguration in matthew.
Comments here like "when the brain was evolving..." are ludicris. Do you believe we are the end result of our evolution? Here's some news you can verify: we are sill evolving. Don't be so arrogant as to assume your closed mindedness is the result of you're being up on a higher rung on the evolutionary ladder. Truly evolved souls are open to all possibilities, whether provable by today's primitive standards or not. We want to learn more, We don't reject God or any other spiritual concept as impossible until scientifically proven. Maybe God wired us this way so tha we could feel Him. I'm sure your predecessors were loudly insisting that the world is flat - and then executing those who did not agree.
This entire conversation is pointless. As Sommerset Maughn said: There are people who are entirely religious and no matter what is said to them or what they experience they will remain that way. And, there are those who are not religous and, likwise, will remain without belief regardless of the circumstances. Believe if you want but you need to know that your belief is just that. It is not a fact. After several thousand years of human scientific observation there has never been a credible scientific observation of a phenomenon that could not be described scientifically/naturally. Anyone who says otherwise is practicing pseudoscience or lying.
could not these socalled ghosts and what not be explained as supernatural powers (i.e. angels, demons, and God almighty)? people claim to have seen aliens but no one nows what angels look like; and acordding to the bible the articles definition of "reincarnation" is absolutly possible (Revelation 11:3-12, Matthew 17:1-3) in revelation the 2 witnesses bear a strong resemblence to moses and elijah; moses rained down plauges on egypt (exodus 8-11) and elijah defeated the prophets of baal (1 kings 18) and both of these men appered with christ at his transfiguration in matthew.
i toured the Pere La Chaise cemetary by myself -- got lost by the weedy, old tombs/crypts -- heard a man's sigh behind me. Creeped me out; I ignored it and left. I flew home a few days later -- that night i woke up to a man's sigh at the far corner of my bed. It kept happening for weeks even when i wasn't asleep. I never told anyone -- kept convincing myself it was the radiator.
Stayed over at my boyfriend's one night and as we cuddled in the dark, falling asleep, a man's sigh comes from the middle of the room... He turns on the lights, gets up and looks around the room asking me if I heard that sound. "What sound? I asked innocently. "A man sighing is what sound!" I just smiled beatifically and went back to sleep. Me & the Sighing man... we hung out for years after that... call me crazy, but true story.
I'm sure I won't feel this way when my life draws to a close. Like you, I'll hang on to hope, whether its real or not.
Sorry, I don't choose to believe in God because the economy is down and it helps me feel more secure. I choose to believe in God because He has shown me He's real. The bible for thousands of years has explained the truth behind spirits and paranormal acticity. Science can explain many truths about the natural world but can offer no explanation for our existence or paranormal/spiritual occurrences, only theory. To people on the outside, they will never understand, because they have never taken the time or had the open mind to try to understand Gods word. As many of my faith believe, there is a heaven and a hell, angels and demons, and God created us with a soul and spirit. What is real to us as believers is the spiritual realm where God and his angels, along with the demonic operate. What is not real is a body of flesh and blood, that eventually turns back into dust, but the spirit lives on. If you can understand that we operate inside of another realm that our spirit is in tune with but our physical bodies are out of tune with it makes more sense. Some people who are spiritually more intuitive experience visions, manifestations, and can even hear audible voices. The flip side to this is that the demonic also have an ability to reveal and confuse. Ever wonder why on Paranormal State and other shows where there is clearly spiritial activity, the spirtual activity that is demonic is combated with thousand year old Jewish/ Christian protocol, and why does the name "Jesus" contain so much power when spoken on these shows? For believers, the answer is simple, to all non-believers, I guess keep reading til you see something that satisfies your carnal intuition that there is something "more" going on that can't be understood, or if you really want to understand more ask someone of faith.
You are right except for one thing. There is no Hell. God is a loving god who would not torture people in burning place of torment for eternity, besides it is a waste of power and energy. god loves us and has instilled in us the will to live forever because that is what we were made to do. Except Adam and Eve ruined it, for they ate and positively grew old and died as God said they would. From dust they came and to dust they returned, as God said. There is no mention of Hell, there are alot of metaphores and people take the Word so literally that they think God would send us to a place of torment. that is like a father punishing his child by placing his hand into a fire. Would have any respect or love for someone who would do such a thing? Would you even want to get to know that person? No way. It is a lie from Satan to get people to turn away from God and it has definitely worked for many. Look how many blame God for everything that goes wrong in thier lives, how many people actually blame Satan? or themselves or their parents for doing them wrong? The end will come, until then, Satan has reign over Earth. Sin is evident, we have all inherited sin from Adam like a dented pan will bake imperfect loaves of bread. That is why it is so hard to be good all the time, that is why we get sick, we get cancer, we die. Adam started it, and one day God will finish it.
Comments here like "when the brain was evolving..." are ludicris. Do you believe we are the end result of our evolution? We are sill evolving. Don't be so arrogant as to assume your small mindedness is the result of a higher rung on the evolutionary ladder. Truly evolved souls are open to all possibilities, provable by today's infantile standards or not. I'm sure your predecessors were loudly shouting tha tthe world is flat - and then executing those who did not agree. We proved you wrong then and we will now as well.
All of you religious types are idiots. Period.
I'm sure you'll feel differently when your life comes to a close. I pray that each of you who do not believe in God, will find him before it is too late...........
I'm sure that you will not feel this way when your life draws to a close. I pray that each of you who do not believe in God, will find him before it is too late...
Thank you from the bottom of my saved, Christian heart. At least one of us "religious" types struck a nerve and made you react. God is Good, you have no idea...
Sorry if you're disappointed, but the article is true. If you truly put forth the effort, you can peek behind the scenes of your mental ideas and see the equivalent of the wizard behind the curtain, pulling the levers that reveal to you what you???ve always hoped was true.
This isn???t necessarily a bad thing, because some of the greatest feats of human achievement have taken place because someone was completely sure that what they was perceiving was absolutely and independently true, though the perception had a little help from their own mind, unbeknownst to them.
This is just us experiencing our own mind and the world, and sometimes it helps people to endure things or try things they otherwise wouldn???t, which can be a good thing.
Just play along, if you already know what???s going on. If you???re sure the article is wrong and this stuff really does exist, then you???re already playing along. So, no worries!
Joercdd, you write: "Science tells us that complexity indicates design which indicates intelligence." You are clearly subscribing to some very bad scientific information. Please read up on distinguishing pseudoscience from science. There is quite a difference.
Not sure what the point is? Where do you see complexity without design?
I love how science has all the answers......what a joke from a mortal man..
One would be or has to a fool not to believe in re-incarnation, it is all about nature replenishing iiself, more like trees being recycled, from a dead tree grows another, so it is with humans. We are not a seperate entity with nature but are part of nature itself.
I worked for a couple as a live in housekeeper in the valley part of LA. The people were world travelers and gone alot. I lived in the guest house and one Sunday afternoon I was making a sandwich and wanted some mayonaise so I went into the main house. As soon as I crossed into the doorway something got right up behind me and it made the hairs stand up on my neck, I was scared. I went to their refridgerator and got some mayonaise and walked back to the door. This creepy feeling was still directly behind me. I stepped outside, looked back in and announced outloud to nobody, "Leave me alone!"
In the main house was a foyer surrounded by all glass with a small garden just inside the entry door. When I would be cleaning this part of the house I always noticed a moving reflection of light on the glass that wasn't mine. I hadn't been there more than 4 months when the owners went on a 3 month tour of Europe. I was invited to have guests stay in the main house during their absence.
My younger brother was about 20yrs old and came to stay for a couple of weeks. I had another job and left him to his own all day. One night he looked quite startled and asked if I had been home during the day and I said no. He told me he was playing with the piano when an icy hand firmly grabbed his shoulder and it frightened him. His logical mind told him it was me playing a trick on him, trying to scare him. I told him what had happened to me when I was first here. We agreed there was a ghost in the house.
Over the 8 years I worked for this couple, I had numerous friends stay and they all experience some paranormal activity, though I never asked, they all told me stories. It was nothing harmful. This one friend in particular was over for the evening and he asked if there was someone else in the house and I said just the cat. He told me he knew there was someone else in the house and his name was George and he had been a stage coach driver who was crossing the scared mountains of the Native Americans and was shot in the chest with an arrow and had died on the property. I said that sometimes I would see a slight vision reflection in the glass foyer of a blond haired guy with a scraggly beard and heavy mustache with a hat that was pinned up in front like on the TV series "F TROOP" . My friend said that was who was in his mind.
We all weren't just having psychic problems, it wasn't all in our belief systems. It was real. I never told any of my visitors anything first, they all told me after they had experienced something while staying there.
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I believe you. My deceased relatives visit me from time to time. I feel them or smell them around me sometimes as well. I have thought, for a long time - that you have to have an open mind about these things. Not because it enables your mind to conjure these things up; but because it is how you become receptive to these visits, events, communications.
I also believe in past lives; i myself, am more than a millenium in age - as a spirit/soul - and I have never claimed to be anyone famous. I have been poor, wealthy, male, female, a slave, a doctor, an abused wife, a traveller... and many others. I had to be open minded to the possibility that things like ghosts & spirits & former lives could be real in order to understand the purpose of my visits from my deceased grandparents and be able to communicate with them.... our society does much to try to discredit the paranormal; but it will never sway my belief.
it's not your relatives, it is Demons messing with you and you are encouraging them by believing it is your relatives. Just because they do not hurt you doesnt mean they arent Demons. There are no past lives, God doesnt have people born as someone else. When you die, you just die. Our society does try to dicredit the paranormal - i agree, but it does exist, it's just that most dont understand it. No one reads the Bible so no one knows the answers. The next time people coming knocking on your door to give you some answers, maybe you should give them the time of day and have a listen.
Notice how everyone thinks they're the reincarnation of someone famous? Why wasn't anyone, EVER, in their past life a servant that emptied the chamber pots? Or when they were a potato farmer... or a butcher... or something else rather unremarkable?
Thats not true...take a look at this...unbelievable!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA
Thats not true...take a look at this...unbelievable!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EWwzFwUOxA
Dr. Ian Stevenson applied the scientific method in case studies of children who claim to remember previous lives. The evidence supporting that these children do actually remember previous lives is astonishing. Dr. Stevenson was a professor at the University of Virginia. He died in 2007... The Division of Perceptual Studies (DOPS) is a unit of the Department of Psychiatric Medicine of the University of Virginia's Health System.
Karen27a, I don't agree with you but hey that's totally cool right? I believe in reincarnation and ghosts sure, but I hope I don't get persecuted for that. Anyway that's not the point. The main reason I even came t this page was just to say...WHAT A HORRIBLE DAY TO PUT THIS STORY ON. ON HALLOWEEN?! I mean common, how boring. Nobody wants to hear that ghosts are figments of our imaginations on Halloween. Put something else up, like top one hundred scariest moments ion horror movies...or something! So yea, just wanted to say that. Happy Halloween everyone. :)
I love skeptics especially the ones with very closed minds that have been proven wrong in the past ;)
I understand people may think pictures of ghosts are amazing and there may be similarities in someone who is dead and someone who is living. hoever there is no such thing as reincarnation or ghosts, and I have indeed lived in a haunted house. So i have experienced it myself. If anyone read the Bible, these ansers are logically answered. It is common sense that death is the opposite of life. When you die you are consious of nothing. You are 'sleeping' or 'at rest'. So it is clear that you do not have a soul that comes out of your body and continues to live on. The brain controls our entire body and when the brain dies, and our body dies, we die, that's it! Heaven exists but we will go there until Judgement day, hence the resurrection at "the end". On the flipside, Demons do exist as I think many Catholics and others would agree. Demons take many forms and even have different personalities like people do, since they used to be in fact Angels. Remember they had to choose sides as Satan rebelled against God. Angels who rebelled became Demons who were hurled out of Heaven down to Earth to rule, since they think they can do better than God can as Ruler. that is why the world is the way it is, Satan is having his chance, but day God will say 'enough' and the end will come hence the resurection and judgement and the new Heaven and Earth will be created. All that is bad will cease to exist. The mere ideas of ghosts and Hell, reincarnation, spirits who live among the living are all lies from Satan to distract people from the truth, from God, and look how well it has worked. After all, he was able to decieve Eve and Adam.
i agree.
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