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  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 10/31/2008 11:08:50 PM

    Study finds Media has Betray Trust of American People
    Newsweek Article:
    Study: Media coverage has favored Obama campaign
    Study finds comments on evening newscasts over the past two months favored the Obama campaign

    "For whatever reason, the media are portraying Barack Obama as a better choice for president than John McCain," said Robert Lichter, a George Mason University professor and head of the center. "If you watch the evening news, you'd think you should vote for Obama."

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/165218

    "A former Newsweek reporter admitted in an article this week that he has no objectivity and imagined disabling Rudy Giuliani so he wouldn't run in the presidential primary race last year.
    Michael Hastings wrote in GQ magazine that he had a "recurring fantasy" that he could somehow stop the former New York City mayor in his tracks.
    "I quickly realized Rudy was a maniac. I had a recurring fantasy in which I took him out during a press conference (it was nonlethal, just something that put him out of commission for a year or so), saving America from the horror of a President Giuliani. If that sounds like I had some trouble being 'objective,' I did. Objectivity is a fallacy," he said."

    http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_7484&pageNum=2

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/55_say_media_bias_bigger_problem_than_campaign_cash

    55% Say Media Bias Bigger Problem Than Campaign Cash

    http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2008/cyb20080819.asp

    Pew Research finds Media Credibility Plummets, Just 30% Believe 'Most Trusted' CNN

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/51_say_reporters_are_trying_to_hurt_palin_39_say_she_has_better_experience_than_obama
    51% Say Reporters Are Trying To Hurt Palin; 39% Say She Has Better Experience Than Obama


    Add to that The ugly side of Big Brother Socialism from the Obama Campaign: Media Blackmail
    October 31, 2008 12:27 PM ABC Reports:
    The Obama campaign has told three reporters they have to drop off the campaign plane this weekend. All three work for papers that endorsed Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.: the New York Post, the Washington Times, and the Dallas Morning News.
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/citing-space-co.html

    Barack Obama's campaign killed all interviews with a Florida TV station after Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, faced tough and critical questions from a reporter at the Orlando station, the Orlando Sentinel reported .
    "This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign, according to the Sentinel.
    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertai

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/31/2008 11:04:13 PM

    How to bring down a democracy: the steps toward totalitarian rule, in the order followed by Hitler and the Nazi Party SEE IF THEY SOUND FAMILIAR.

    1. Improvise an attack (or take advantage of an attack) on the country
    2. Declare the country under attack by an enemy; real or improvised
    3. Force legislation that limits civil liberties and gathers broad powers unto government
    4. Brand dissenters and peacemakers as unpatriotic and browbeat them into submission
    5. Keep the fear factor high to make the public easier to manage
    6. Institute massive propaganda campaigns using state-controlled no-longer-free media and fear of government retribution
    7. Law enforcement and government personnel are used to spy on, control and break dissent 7. Institute the equivalent of a national homeland security department, overseen by one person with unlimited powers
    8. Confiscate all firearms from the citizenry
    9. Institute the mass murder and imprisonment of any who resist the new ideology.
    10. Launch pre-emptive strikes into other countries in an attempt to spread the new ideology

    Sound familiar? It should, its not only the direct path of Hitlers rise to power, but also parallels the events starting with and following 9/11. President Bush was very familiar with the game plan, as his Grandfather and his Grandfathers father-in-law were supporters of Hitler and Nazism, both before and after the war.

    Of course, theyve skipped a couple of the items on the list, but theyll get to them if theyre allowed to remain in power, because it will be the only way for them to retain power.

    The Reichstag Fire: the funeral pyre of German democracy parallels 9/11 and the loss of American civil liberties

    http://www.essortment.com/all/nazireichstag_rghx.htm

    THE BEST REASON TO VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA THIS ELECTION YEAR

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/31/2008 4:17:07 PM

    Here are the answers to all the Obama smears using various trusted non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyones version of the facts.

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21

    Is Obamas brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html


    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html


    Obama???s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html


    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html


    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html


    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html


    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html


    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html


    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html


    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html


    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html


    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/31/2008 3:10:43 PM

    "ronarndt": Just thinking for myself. I hear the McCain/Palin name-calling and accusations. I then think about what they say, and compare that to what they're done. And what they want to do, like give billions in additional tax breaks/redistribution to oil companies.

    Then I remember John McCain, when he voted against the Bush tax cuts for the rich. What he said was that this additional tax break (way beyond what it was in the Reagan years) for the rich was "irresponsible" because it "benefitted only the rich".

    Which are the slogans and accusations, ronarndt, and which are the facts?

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: ronarndt @ 10/31/2008 2:48:25 PM

    Do your homework. Stop relying on biased "facts" from websites from EITHER Obama or McCain. Use data from the US Census to get population and income levels. If only the 1.6 million families making over $250K per year pay for Obama's $1.2 trillion spending package, each family will receive a $750,000 tax bill, on top of what they are already paying. There are not enough people in this group to spread out the bill. This means the income level has to be lowered to include middle class to pay the $1.2 trillion.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/31/2008 2:18:06 PM

    So, Sarah takes all the money she can from federal tax earmarks, hires a lobbyist to get more, and repeatedly tells the electorate that she told Congress "no thanks" on The Bridge To Nowhere, but in fact she took the federal tax funds that were earmarked for it.

    So, she wasn't distributing federal tax funds, 'cause she put THOSE FEDERAL TAX FUNDS into a DIFFERENT POCKET from the pocket from the funds she distributed to Alaskans.

    I bet those federal tax funds she didn't REDISTRIBUTE are actually different dollars than the ones I paid for federal taxes.

    Part of the money she distributed came from her raising taxes on the oil companies. The oil companies had to recoup those higher taxes through higher gas prices. I'm also certain that none of the dollars I spent for higher gas prices, were included in the dollars Sarah redistridistruted to Alaskans.

    And since she gave those dollars to all Alaskans, it's not true that she took money from some and gave it to others.

    I see. That's really, really, really different, now that I understand. According to "Nowforthetruth" that's not REDISTRIBUTION, that's capitalism.

    I see... That's the Straight Talk Express talkin...

    As for McCain, he just wants to give more tax breaks to oil companies.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/30/2008 6:30:09 PM

    "mccainsupporter": Benedict Arnold was once considered a patriot. G. Gordon Liddy conspired with Nixon and others to engage in the most significant threat to our democracy ever. Then he became a rightwing talk radio blabber.

    McCain said lobbyists were what's wrong with Washington, and he vowed to kick them all out. Then he got behind and hired all the Bushies to run his campaign, with Rick Davis as his campaign manager. Davis received millions to lobby Rs to not regulate what caused the economic crisis, and he continued to receive those lobbyist fees while lobbying for McC.

    Now McC and the Bushies have run the largest, most organized, most relentless smear, lies and disinformation machine I have ever seen.

    That is a threat that rivals what Nixon and Liddy did. Back in the Nixon days, almost all I ever heard from my conservative friends was what a good guy Nixon was, it was just a left wing fabrication, and whines about why they wouldn't leave that poor patriot alone.

    That is history I, as a patriot, am obliged to vote against.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:23:30 PM

    Vote John McCain!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!

    I want the President to be someone who can think for himself and not rely exclusively like a blind person on a particular advisor. I want someone who understands numbers and can make analytical decisions himself. Years of computing payloads, fuel requirements, weather and distances as a pilot are the experiences that John McCain brings to the table when listening to economic proposals. His eyes will not glaze over when there are ten page budget spreadsheet proposals presented to him. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no mathematical or quantitative education or experience between them. They do not teach accounting in law school.

    That is why they offer basic basic accounting to attorneys as continuing education classes after they are licensed. I also am willing to bet that neither Barack Obama or Joe Biden never took a basic accounting continuing legal education class to improve their lack of skills.

    Both Obama and Biden were political science majors as undergraduate which means they have no quantitative training or mathematical background. The average nurse who gives vaccinations or antibiotics shots have better computational and mathematical training than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama. A nurse knows not to give you a tenfold quantity of any particular drug and has a good foundation in mathematics. Similarly all pilots are trained in vectors and physics.

    John McCain is the one who can come up with solutions to our economic problems.

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden are mathematically challenged. Send them back to school.

    Vote John McCain!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:20:20 PM

    Vote for John McCain.

    He is the one who can come up with solutions to our economic problems.

    Joe Biden with his history and political science double major in college and Barack Obama???s major in political science give them absoloutely no economic, scientific or quantitative background to handle the pressing economic problems facing our country. These two mathematically challenged Democrats are supposed to be able to crunch numbers and understand how to cope with our economic and budget crisis.

    Two people who probably can???t add four numbers together are suppose help solve our economic crisis. Do you know that they offer basic accounting continuing education classes to lawyers because most lawyers do not understand simple accounting. You at least know that John McCain has the analytic skills to compute fuel loads, cargo weights, wind speeds, and trip distances to keep from running out of gas on missions.

    How would you like it, if Joe or Barack Obama would fly your Boeing 777 on your next commercial flight here in the US. Most independent voters would not rest easy knowing that Biden or Obama can rely on what they learned in their civil procedure class to help you land safely and not run out of jet fuel during the trip. Pilots have proven analytical skills. There is a saying that there are old and bold pilots but no old bold pilots. John McCain has that good judgment and he has the proven analytical skills to be able to tackle our budget problems. Barack Obama and Joe Biden can spend the next 4 years and take some accounting and economics continuing legal education classes.

    Given their academic training, a trillion may look the same as a million dollars on a budget spreadsheet.

    Vote for John McCain!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:19:18 PM

    John McCain is a modern day King Arthur. Instead of pulling a sword out of stone, he has performed the modern day equivalent of surviving relatively unscathed five plane crashes including being shot down over Hanoi.

    Thousands of pilots have died in plane crashes and it takes real skill to crash land a plane and survive. If you look at the former Airtran and now defunct ValueJet 592 crash in the Florida swamp that killed everyone on board, it did not take a lot of skill to fly the plane nose down straight into the Florida swamp. The 911 United Flight crash in Pennsylvania is also proof of an unskilled crash landing where everyone was killed going nose down first. So John McCain???s having survived those crashes is a testament to his flying skills.

    Like Evil Knievel the former motorcycle dare devil who also survived countless crashes, John McCain has survived five airplane crashes. Like Nascar drivers, who jump back in the cars after crashes John McCain has walked away and gotten back in the pilots seat. John McCain will drive and pilot our economy back to prosperity.

    Vote for John McCain!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:16:17 PM

    Obama supporters criticize G. Gordan Liddy who was convicted of conspiracy, wiretapping, and burglary for his role in the Watergate burglary. Coincidentally, G. Gordon Liddy served five and half years in prison for these charges the same length of time John McCain was a captive in a Hanoi prison cell. G. Gordon Liddy did not bomb anyone. Burglary of an office building is not armed robbery and is not a crime of violence. Burglary of a commercial business is a third degree felony and involves no potential for violence. G. Gordon Liddy???s actions have no comparison to the actions of domestic terrorist Bill Ayers who was linked to bombings of the Capitol and the Pentagon and whose girlfriend along with two other Weather Underground members were killed while making a bomb in New York.

    G. Gordon Liddy served his country as an Army artillery officer during the Korean War. He was a distinguished former FBI agent, a former New York Prosecutor who prosecuted Tim Leary, and also was a member of the Fordham Law Review.

    G. Gordon Liddy wrote articles for the Fordham Law Review during law school.

    On the other hand, Barack Obama vice president teammate Joe Biden borrowed material from the Fordham Law Review and had to repeat his first year law school legal research and writing class at Syracuse University law school due to his plagiarism of a law review article from Fordham Law Review.
    There have also been numerous cheating scandals at West Point and Annapolis which has resulted in permanent expulsion of those involved. One could argue that if John McCain broke the honor code he might have had a higher class rank. The military academies treat cheating scandals similar to law enforcement academies. A military officer can order troops into battle and their integrity should be above reproach when they placing their men in harms way. Similarly the testimony of a law enforcement officer can send someone away to prison for thirty years or even result in a death sentence so even a hint of cheating is always fully investigated and vetted and no cheating during academic training can be tolerated.

    The word and integrity of all federal, state, and local law enforcement officers can not be questioned. The City of Irving Texas recently fired over half of a recent police academy training class because there was organized cheating. So whether in law enforcement or the military cheating can not be tolerated. As President, John McCain will be commander in chief and Sarah Palin can also step into that role and both can say that they were never involved in a cheating incident and their command to go to battle will not be questioned.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:14:50 PM

    There have been many references to John McCain class rank at Annapolis. John McCain also received many demerits which affected his class standing for standing up to upper classmen bullies who harrassed fellow freshman classmates of John McCain. However, far more importantly, at least John McCain did not break the Annapolis honor code. The Honor code at Annapolis parallels the Air Force Academy Honor Code which state we will not lie, steal, or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does. Cheating scandals have occurred at the Air Force Academy in 1965, 1967, 1972, 1984, 2004 and 2007. In 1965, 1 hundred and nine cadets were expelled from the Air Force Academy for their involvement in cheating. There have also been numerous cheating scandals at West Point and Annapolis which has resulted in permanent expulsion of those involved. One could argue that if John McCain broke the honor code he might have had a higher class rank. The military academies treat cheating scandals similar to law enforcement academies.

    A military officer can order troops into battle and their integrity should be above reproach when they placing their men in harms way. Similarly the testimony of a law enforcement officer can send someone away to prison for thirty years or even result in a death sentence so even a hint of cheating is always fully investigated and vetted and no cheating during academic training can be tolerated.

    The word and integrity of all federal, state, and local law enforcement officers can not be questioned. The City of Irving Texas recently fired over half of a recent police academy training class because there was organized cheating. So whether in law enforcement or the military cheating can not be tolerated.

    As President, John McCain will be commander in chief and Sarah Palin can also step into that role and both can say that they were never involved in a cheating incident and their command to go to battle will not be questioned.
    Vote John McCain!!!!!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:08:19 PM

    Vote John McCain!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!

    I want the President to be someone who can think for himself and not rely exclusively like a blind person on a particular advisor. I want someone who understands numbers and can make analytical decisions himself. Years of computing payloads, fuel requirements, weather and distances as a pilot are the experiences that John McCain brings to the table when listening to economic proposals. His eyes will not glaze over when there are ten page budget spreadsheet proposals presented to him. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no mathematical or quantitative education or experience between them. They do not teach accounting in law school.

    That is why they offer basic basic accounting to attorneys as continuing education classes after they are licensed. I also am willing to bet that neither Barack Obama or Joe Biden never took a basic accounting continuing legal education class to improve their lack of skills.

    Both Obama and Biden were political science majors as undergraduate which means they have no quantitative training or mathematical background. The average nurse who gives vaccinations or antibiotics shots have better computational and mathematical training than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama. A nurse knows not to give you a tenfold quantity of any particular drug and has a good foundation in mathematics. Similarly all pilots are trained in vectors and physics.

    John McCain is the one who can come up with solutions to our economic problems.
    Barack Obama and Joe Biden are mathematically challenged. Send them back to school.

    Vote John McCain!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:06:38 PM

    Vote John McCain!!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!! Ohio is proud of John Glenn and John McCain both fighter pilots who served their country when their country was at war. Barack Obama is dumb as a doorknob to raise Keating 5 and criticize John Glenn. You just put Ohio in the Red state column. The people of Ohio are proud of John Glenn, a former Marine Corp fighter pilot during World War II. John Glenn was awarded the Congressman Medal of Honor and flew aboard the space shuttle at the age of 77. The Barack Obama campaign should stop criticizing an 87 year old war hero John Glenn by raising the Keating 5 scandal that happened over twenty years ago. For two people who have no military service between them and have never worn the uniform, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have a lot of gaul and huzpah to obliquely criticize a fellow Democrat and elder statesman and an 87 year old war hero and first man in space John Glenn. It is also pretty stupid to criticize an Ohio native son when Ohio is in play during this election. Vote for John McCain, he respects veterans especially 87 year old fellow fighter pilots.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/30/2008 6:03:52 PM

    It is clear during the debates that both Barack Obama and Joe Biden want to fight the war on terror only in a politically correct manner. Barack Obama worries how the world may view us.

    John McCain understands that winning the war on terror is not a sure bet and minimizing the loss of American military lives and casualties is more important than fighting in a politically correct manner.

    John McCain???s military service gives him better insights on this issue than either Barack Obama or Joe Biden. Joe Biden brings his personal perspective about being knocked down and getting back up to the country. However, the country can not take being knocked down and expected to get back up as easily as Joe has done in the past.

    Joe Biden has stated in his campaign repeatedly it does not matter how many times you are knocked down what counts is the number of times that you get back up. I am sure his experiences as a teenanger with asthma contributed to his belief that you have to get back up when knocked down. While ninety percent of asthma cases are diagnosed before most children turn six years old, Joe Biden beat the odds and fell into that unfortunately ten percent group of children who come down with asthma after age six.



    Joe Biden also had to get back up and move on with his life in 1968, when the Selective Service System found that he was ineligible to serve during the peak of the Vietnam War due to his having asthma as a teenager. Joe Biden previously had received five college student draft deferments over a six year period from 1963 to 1968 when finally his asthma condition became known to the Selective Service System and he was deemed ineligible to fight for his country in 1968. During that period Joe Biden completed his undergraduate degree and three years of law school at Syracuse University. Without his diagnosis of asthma and five previous student deferments, Joe Biden could have gone in and served his country honorably as a officer and a gentleman and perhaps as a Judge Advocate Law Officer similar to his son. It was unfortunate that his asthma condition that is only diagnosed in ten percent of children after age six caused Joe Biden to not be able to serve his country during a time of war. Although Joe Biden has moved on from his teenage asthma, John McCain still presents the United States with a clear superior choice of a commander in chief to lead our country.

    Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!! Vote John McCain !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/30/2008 4:19:35 PM

    Here are the answers to all the Obama smears using various trusted non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyones version of the facts.

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama???s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/30/2008 4:37:52 PM

      Good one wendydk. I'd love to see you repost the whole thing every time someone tries to repeat the lies the propaganda machine had relentlessly tried to propagate. Here's a debunk of the lies about where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

      A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 10/30/2008 4:24:34 PM

    "billtill": Here's my quick effort at your question for a better explanation of the differences between Democrats and Republicans.

    Bush abdicated our national energy policy to be run by secret meetings between Dick Cheney and to oil companies.

    Bush disregarded his experienced military and diplomatic advisers, and abdicated Iraq to his NeoCons who mesmerized themselves and him with their ideology and fantasies about what would be the outcome.

    McCain said lobbyists were what is wrong with Washington, and he promised to root them out. Then he got behind and he took on the Bushies to run his campaign, and hired Rick Davis to be his campaign manager. Davis took many millions in lobbyist fees to lobby Rs, only, to prevent regulation while the Rs allowed the big money funds to loot trillions from our economy.

    But here's what drove me from a recent McCain supporter and solid McC vote, who's never voted for a Dem in 40 years, is that since McC sold out to the rightwing, the Rs have run the most organized and prolific smear, hate, disinformation propaganda machine I have ever seen.

    So, as best I can tell about the last 8 years, and this campaign especially, is that Dems don't try to win elections with smears like: he's a Socialist, unAmerican, antiAmerican, an Arab, a Muslim, numerous fabricated quotes purportedly from his books, his birth certificate is forged, and on ad nauseum.

    I'm tire of the "Redistribution" to the megarich, oil companies and Hallliburton. But I'm afraid of the Republican propaganda machine and the obvious belief that the end justifies the means.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: billtill @ 10/30/2008 3:42:38 PM

    Father/daughter talk...
    A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words, redistribution of wealth.
    She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
    One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father.
    He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
    Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
    Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?" She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."
    Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
    The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"
    The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the Republican party."
    If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/30/2008 2:12:55 PM

    Honestly, looking at McCain and Obama objectively (without any party affiliation or any racism) I really can't see why anybody would vote for McCain. Obama has offered a much more coherent plan to get America out of the economic disaster we are in.

    Right now, most people are anxious about the economy, fearing the worst but hoping for the best.

    Reality check: within 18 months YOU could be standing in a bread line. That's how bad it really is. And Obama will work actively to prevent this short term, as well as make us strong again long term. As much as I like McCain and admire his patriotism, he really is not up for the job, not now with the global markets falling apart.


    Obama's economic plan can be found at:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/index.php

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/30/2008 2:05:44 PM

    I have volunteered for Obama in Pennsylvania several times and the enthusiasm level for him there is AMAZING. Yesterday, I started working in Ohio, expecting that I would get a lot of hostility because I was in a VERY Republican small town, but it turns out that about 70% of everyone I talked to had already voted, and already voted for Obama.

    If Obama wins either Pennsylvania or Ohio, McCain will be conceding the election by 11 pm.

    Oh Happy Day!

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