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  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/31/2008 7:56:18 AM

    BUSHES LITTLE SIDEKICK
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. . Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    If you are tired of going back instead of forward hold them accountable this time
    This is our last chance to cushion the impact of of a economic meteor.
    If mccain cant use a computer even to send email do you really hes qualified to run our country during a depression
    Your common sense knows the answer

    Bush may not be on the ballot this year but his policies are
    You can have more of the same our we can turn the page NOW
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/30/2008 2:45:37 PM

    Honestly, looking at McCain and Obama objectively (without any party affiliation or any racism) I really can't see why anybody would vote for McCain. Obama has offered a much more coherent plan to get America out of the economic disaster we are in.

    Right now, most people are anxious about the economy, fearing the worst but hoping for the best.

    Reality check: within 18 months YOU could be standing in a bread line. That's how bad it really is. And Obama will work actively to prevent this short term, as well as make us strong again long term. As much as I like McCain and admire his patriotism, he really is not up for the job, not now with the global markets falling apart.


    Obama's economic plan can be found at:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/index.php

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:13:41 AM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ


  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:13:33 AM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ


  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:12:51 AM

    After 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

    Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

    Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 TRILLION of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

    Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

    Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

    Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

    And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

    In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:12:42 AM

    After 9/11, the US government started rounding up Muslims without cause and without due process of law, like we did to the Japanese Americans in WWII. The Bush administration called it's main internment camp Guantanamo Bay. While there are certainly many guilty terrorists held in Guantanamo, there are also many innocent American citizens who have been held illegally for years without even being charged with any crime. They have been tortured by our government. Some of them have died.

    Recently the Supreme Court ruled against the Bush administration in the matter of Guantanamo Bay. The Supreme Court Justices were NOT on the side of the terrorists. They were on the side of the Geneva Convention, that says you can not torture POWs, and on the side of US laws that state you can not imprison a person without charging them with a crime and bringing them to trial. I'm sure that like most Americans, the Justices who voted against the illegal, immoral doings at Guantanamo didn't feel sympathy for the terrorists. They felt sympathy for the laws of AMERICA, the land of the FREE, where even rat finks get a fair trial.

    Meanwhile, back in Iraq, the Bush administration is busy trying to build a smokescreen to hide the CRIMES they have committed. Those pesky weapons of mass destruction. Just think, the National Debt went up over 6 trillion dollars under Bush. More than 2 TRILLION of it went directly into the pockets of Halliburton, a corporation owned by the Cheney family. Halliburton is now a DUBAI corporation and therefore is not subject to US taxes. All that money they took out of the US Treasury is going into the coffers of a MUSLIM country.

    Did you hear about how the US government is being charged millions for Halliburton deliveries of sand into Iraq from Kuwait? Sand. Like there is a shortage of sand in Iraq? Another contractor shipped sand from Idaho to Iraq at our expense. Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz discusses these and other excesses of our current government's out of control spending in Iraq.

    Your grandchildren will be working like slaves to pay off this debt, so that the Bushes and Cheneys can live the high life in Dubai.

    Yeah, they're patriots, Bush&Co. They wear flag pins. And hide the money they stole from America in Dubai.

    And they want me to believe that Obama is a socialist. Right.

    In case you think McCain is any different than Bush, watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:12:32 AM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/29/2008 11:58:15 PM

    Now Barack Hussein Obama is a close friend of and praises a PLO supporter in Rashid Khalid
    and the LA Times has the video tape proof.

    Obama makes Bill Belichek look like an angel with all these disturbing videos floating around of
    Obama's radical associations.

    It???s pretty easy for Obama or anyone else to attack George Bush on his economic policies but Obama can't attack George Bush on his record on fighting terrorists to protect America while he
    is busy wining and dining with terrorists !!

    Barack Hussein Obama should be tried for treason and being a threat to US national security.

    Barack says he has the right to distribute your money the way he sees fit. That???s dictatorship.

    • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:12:20 AM

      Does mccain do his homework before he just makes baseless attacks
      He donated 500 000 to the the same person in 1998 then he has a problem because obama went to a party the guy was at
      thats crazy
      what is the expression take the plank out of your eye first before you get the splinter out of someone elses please

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:09:28 AM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 10/30/2008 8:09:18 AM

    People on these bogs are fond of saying that the current economic meltdown was caused by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac underwriting bad mortgages. While Fannie and Freddie obviously are guilty of writing bad mortgages, and worse, guilty of lobbying Congress to allow them to do so with impunity, their actions are just a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining who (or what) caused the financial crisis we face today.

    In 1929 the stock market crash caused the banks to fail, because the banks were in bed with the stock market. Back then, banks owned investment houses, so when the stock market fell, the banks fell too. This triggered the Great Depression. So in 1933 the Congress wrote laws that regulated banking, making it illegal for banks to own investment companies, mortgage guaranty companies or insurance companies. The idea was to keep key industries separated by a fire wall, so that if one industry failed the whole economy would not go down in flames.

    But the Republicans under Bush deregulated the banking industry. Senator Phil Gramm wrote legislation (the Gramm Rudman Act, the Gramm Leach Biley Act, etc.) that stripped away the regulations in the financial and insurance industies. He pushed them through the Republican Congress and they were signed into law by Geo. W. Bush. John McCain voted in favor. Everybody said how great it is to deregulate and create free markets.

    Lehman Brothers, Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch each gave over a million dollars to Senator Gramm's re-election campaign.

    The economic collapse that happened later was a direct result of the deregulation, and here's how: the banks wrote bad mortgages, then bundled the mortgages into investment vehicles that they sold all over the world, and they even got firms like AIG to insure the investments. It was all a house of cards.

    If there had been no deregulation, sure we would have had a bunch of bad mortgages, and the mortgage guaranty and real estate industries would have suffered, but there would not have been a global financial meltdown, since the problem would have been contained in one sector of the economy. You can thank Geo W. Bush, Sen. Phil Gramm and Sen John McCain for the meltdown, since they were strong proponents of deregulation.

    Furthermore, although Fannie and Freddie are now holding the bulk of these bad mortgages, Fannie and Freddie did not originally write most of these mortgages. They bought them after the fact, bundled by banks/investment companies. Fannie and Freddie got screwed by the Wall Street fat cats. And so did you, if you pay taxes.

    What is Phil Gramm doing today? He works as a lobbyist in Washington, trying to make it legal for the Swiss bank he represents to sell Death Bonds in the United States. Nice guy, Phil Gramm. Incidentally, John McCain has said that he wants to appoint Phil Gramm as Treasury Secretary. Some people just can't learn from their mistakes.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/29/2008 11:59:13 PM

    Did NBC offer Barack Hussein Obama a sitcom deal yet? ....Little Mosque in the Midwest!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 10/29/2008 11:58:44 PM

    600 trillion dollars later ....Barack Hussein Obama still can't beat McCain who's running his campaign from the back of his pickup truck...Obama is just "plastic".

  • Posted By: HadEnough1 @ 10/29/2008 3:45:44 PM

    It's frustrating to see so many people stating that the culprit of our health care system is totally the fault of insurance companies. It's a whole circle of factors. Doctors may do charity work and hospitals may be required to hand out care to those who have no intention of paying them, but to state that the whole problem is that insurance companies need to pay higher reimbursements to medical providers is ignorant and anyone who thinks that has not bothered to give this situation any thought.

    Where do you think insurance companies get their money? They get it from the hard-working Americans who are responsible enough to get insurance in the first place. One of the main reasons health insurance is getting unaffordable is due to unnecessary and excessive law suits, prescription advertisements driving up the massive numbers of people taking medications who don't need them, medical providers giving care to people who have no intention of paying, and frivilous utilization of the overcrowded emergency rooms for health situations that could be handled in a doctor's office or urgent care center instead.

    Everyone is clammering for better and better health care and screaming for the insurance companies to pay for it without raising their premiums. That's like the ignorant people who scream about 'the governement' needing to pay for more and more services, yet not caring if the excessive taxes us hard working Americans have to pay are breaking our backs.

    We are 'the insurance' and we are 'the government' because its all of us who work and who purchase health insurance who are stuck with the burden of those irresponsible people who won't work to earn their own way or who refuse to pay for 'unaffordable' insurance.

    If you can't afford the very best car on the market, that does not keep you from getting a car. Just because you can't afford the luxury-model of health insurance does not mean that there are no other choices. At least get a high deductible plan, or get a limited benefit plan. Just get something, anything to help take your burden off of eveyrone else and quit screaming about 'the insurance' or 'the government' owing free health care or free money to you.

    None of us can afford to wait for 'the system' to 'get fixed.' Get out there and at least get something now because its only going to get worse because of these people who refuse to be part of the solution by taking responsiblity and shoving their burden off on the rest of us.

    You can't afford health insurance? Well I can't afford to carry your load on my back any longer. I've had enough.

  • Posted By: hnahed @ 10/29/2008 3:26:31 PM

    Emleel: The grass is indeed greener on the other side of the fence when it comes to health insurance in other countries. Selfish people like either fail to , or are insensitive to the plight of uninsured or underinsured Americans. Only the employed or the rich can afford to be taken care off. You are lucky to think that you can retain a job with benefits until the age of 70. A whole lot of people half your age don't have this option. They are either losing their jobs due to the economic downturn, or to job outsourcing, are working but are not offered health insurance, can't get one due to pre existing conditions, or can't afford Cobra when laid off, as only a dimwit cannot realize that if you don't have a job, you simply can't afford health insurance. If you are lucky enough to have an HMO or even a PPO and have a serious illness, you still have a wait to get into the operating room. So please don't try to knock down socialized medicine in other countries. I lived in Germany and France and I can attest to their excellent socialized medical system. It is a shame that the most "powerful" country in the world cannot take care of the health of its citizen, but can go and doll out money to reconstruct other people's countries. Everytime a solution to the health care crisis in this country is put forward, it is brought down by people like you, who think that the healthcare they enjoy will deteriorate if more people get on board. They always bring up the " who will pay for it?" argument. Well Sir, the funds are there, they just need to be diverted from wars or funds allocated to foreign aid. As for the quality of health care, let the few who can afford it choose the best care that exist from different plans, but don't deny the rest access to more affordable healthcare.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 10/29/2008 2:25:20 PM

    Under the old fee-for-service plans, we proved doctors were lousy businessman.
    Under managed care, we've proven that businessmen are lousy doctors.

    Any time we try to combine profits and healthcare, the profits will win. Any time we link medical care to employment, we will lose.

    We don't have health insurance in this country, we have sick insurance - we only need it when we get sick. The whole idea of 'pre-existing conditions' makes a mockery out of the idea of preventative health care - how much insanity does it take to think that NOT treating a known health condition will contribute to cost savings? For whom? It certainly doesn't contribute to HEALTH.

    Until we structure health care to put the emphasis on HEALTH - not profits, not employment, and not sickness, but health - our system will continue to be broken.

    We need non-profit, universal, accessible HEALTH care.

    It is instructive to note that, of the American Hospital Association, the American Medical Association, and the American Nurses Association, only the ANA has endorsed a candidate, Obama.

    Nurse know what everyone else has forgotten - the emphasis is supposed to be on health. Not doctors, hospitals, employers or money.

    Obama's policy isn't perfect, but it's a start.

    In the meantime, make sure you understand that America's present health care policy is based on one over-riding premise: don't get sick.

  • Posted By: hammerofthor @ 10/29/2008 9:29:01 AM

    Early retirement is one of those outdated concepts like company pensions and, oh yeah, a guaranteed job at the local company plant for life. It's way past time for people to stop whining about how they can't have what their parents had, and deal with reality. Don't gamble with your future by letting your health insurance lapse when you change jobs (and you WILL change jobs).

    • Posted By: ExDemo @ 10/29/2008 1:58:51 PM

      Hey hammerofthor........I have no choice. I'm not whining about having it like my parents. But there is NO way I can afford health insurance for me or my family OR they won't cover me because of pre-existing. I have no choice except to "gamble with my future" I don't even imagine I will ever be able to retire. That's the reality I'm dealing with. have a little cmpassion. Must be nice to have to worry about these things. Wanna send some cash my way?

  • Posted By: ftorres0 @ 10/29/2008 12:04:53 PM

    the u.s health care system will never be fixed, there is a great problem and it is greed for making a lot of money from doctors , hospitals insurance companies , and the list keeps getting bigger.that which is crooked cannot be made strait.says a famous proverb, so humanly speaking there is not a hint of hope.so many will be offering a lot of hope, but the plain truth is that there is none for the future.

    • Posted By: beauregardmontgomery@hotmail.com @ 10/29/2008 1:50:21 PM

      Doctors are not the problem. They do a great deal of charity work and never get thanked for that. Only 1/2 of patients actually pay their Dr. bills which leaves the Doc to pick up the tab.
      The tyrant in this scenario is the Insurance company. They reimburse the Doc much less than the procedure cost, the patient won't pay the difference. Once again, the Doc gets short changed twice while the insurance company just gets fatter.

  • Posted By: ExDemo @ 10/29/2008 1:47:57 PM

    Wow what a dream world this writer gives. I'm 48 (not close to retirement) and my spouse just lost her job. It was through her work we had insurance. COBRA is not available to me and even with plans that have a $10,000 deductible (how ridiculous is that) we cannot afford any coverage at all. Every company we spoke with will not insure me because of a pre-existing condition, and that pre-exisitng life-threatening condition is the major reason we need coverage. I cannot get coverage through either of my present employers (again the pre-exisiting bs). The most annoying thing about that EXTREMELY LAME excuse from insurance companies is that I'll wager that 75% oe people have some type of "pre-existing" condition, So for us it our only option is to forego any kind of coverage at all. This winter we have to choose between heat or health care and we'll have to choose heat. It's unfortunate that supposedly talented writers like this seem to have lost touch with how real people live. Experts give all this advice which is not at all helpful when there is no money to pay for this. And we make too much for assistance. I'm 48 now and so for the next 17 years until I'm 65 I have to risk not having insurance because I either can't afford it or they won't cover me. Maybe the writer should do a little more research and instead of talking to the experts that don't help, talk to real people who have to find their way through. What a ridiculous article.

  • Posted By: daowens @ 10/29/2008 1:46:55 PM

    I am retired. as an employee of the state of Washington. About $500..00 a month os talken out out my retirement of $1,000.00 a month. If I was taxed on on my insurance in addition to being taxed on my insurance I would not have much. I pay over $6, 000.00 a year for my insurance.

  • Posted By: beauregardmontgomery@hotmail.com @ 10/29/2008 1:45:12 PM

    Physicians are NOT the problem. The insurance companies will not cover the total costs of procedures. The health insurance industry needs to be reorganized and have government induced guidelines. It IS unfair for healthy retirees to pay exorbitant premiums to cover the costs the insurance policy should be covering. The health insurance industry is a fraudulent and deceptive entity which needs better regulation.

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