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  • Posted By: obiwan @ 10/29/2008 11:28:03 AM

    US health care is being ruined by the unfair and predatory practices of the insurance industry. Once again insatiable greed trumps the purpose the market was supposed to solve. Our current policies favor the insurance companies not US citizens. The government should force insurance companies to cover ALL CITIZENS at a fair rate. I paid into the system for 30 healthy years with few claims. Now in my 50s I need to insure myself. A few aging factors and I am forced into an absurdly high price bracket. Why aren't the years I paid in while healthy not counted towards what I pay now? It is unfair and a big part of the problem. Since these health insurance companies put profit before people's health we are now in this precarious situation. In the USA even we who are willing or able to pay our fair share are targeted for exclusion when we need insurance most. Insurance companies need to be forced to serve all Americans with a fairer system. It is time to put some things right in this country and health care coverage needs to be at the top of the list! The greatest country on earth can't even take care of its own? What is that? We can bailout huge banks but we can't send people to the hospital without them losing their houses? WTF?

  • Posted By: obiwan @ 10/29/2008 11:06:45 AM

    The health insurance industry is ruining health care in this country. We need to stop them. Their profit driven business practices are unfair and predatory. I worked hard and paid into the system for 30 years while healthy and using claims very little. Now in my fifties I have absurdly high costs because of natural aging conditions that I must pay on my own. It is a simple fix - a law to force the companies to standard coverage of all applicants at a FAIR rate.

  • Posted By: sleepy bear @ 10/29/2008 9:54:04 AM

    Emleel- Here in the states you can spend that long in the emergency room here also, It happens all the time.
    Why is it that we send money to countries all over the world but watch people in our own country suffer from simple "luxeries" like being able to afford medicine. Nobody is putting America in a bad light....this is a very serious and widespread problem, I live close to the Canadian border, I don't hear anyone complaining about being able to get the help they need.

  • Posted By: Barb123456789 @ 10/29/2008 9:47:16 AM

    In my house, we could retire early - except - for the cost of health insurance. That is our deal breaker. I have seen the problems of the uninsured and underinsured first hand and it is horrible. I am very lucky to have insurance. People tell horror stories about Nationalized Health Care, but they are forgetting the horror stories happening here everyday to people in America that have no health insurance. Could you afford to treat cancer or have heart surgrey without insurance. I think Bill Gates could - but - not the rest of us.

  • Posted By: GHIRSCH24 @ 10/29/2008 9:44:17 AM

    Although many countries have a system that is far from perfect, at least their citizens don't have to worry about losing their homes due to medical expenses. You may plan on working until you are 70, but you don't know if your health will allow it, or if your job will last that long.

  • Posted By: EmleeL @ 10/29/2008 12:42:57 AM

    Yes, one could go to Thailand or India for medical care for one third the cost...of course the offset is, if something goes wrong you have NO recourse...none....you sign a full release in order to receive care at that price, so if you have to stay a week longer due an infection, you pay all the costs and if because of that infection, lets say, you lose an arm, too bad.....that's all on your ticket, no legal recourse
    In England you can spend 8 hours in an ambulance before you spend the next 4 hours in the emergency room...the law says a patient can only be in the ER for 4 hours, so the patients are kept outside in ambulances as the ERs are so poorly staffed and funded........Houston has more MRI machines than all of Canada which is why it takes forever to have a diagnostic procedure in Canada..I don't feel a bit sorry for someone who can't afford to retire at 62...that is very young compared to our life spans and it is putting a huge burden on Social Security..I am 57 and do not plan to retire until I am 70.
    By the way, I have nothing against improving the lot of Americans...just see red when the vastly inferior health care systems of other countries are held up as the beacon for us to follow...cost of health care in America 5% of the average income, in England 9%- In England, cancer therapies are often denied to those 65 and older as a waste of resources....In Denmark you have to see a pharmacist before you can see a Dr and the Pharmacist amkes the decision ..as previously mentioned, in Canada it takes weeks and sometimes months to schedule procedures and surguries...Canadians come to America for treatment, and we see them all the time at RV parks in Arizona and Texas and they don't speak very highly of their health care plan
    There are two sides to every story.....and I am sick to death of hearing about only one side of the story that always seems to put America in a bad light - we have it good here...but for some reason, we have forgotton that and tend to just spew this tripe about how green the grass is on the other side of the fence...they have their own piles of manure on the other side that leaves big brown spots in the grass too and they stack it just as high in other countries as we do here too...

    • Posted By: bill870 @ 10/29/2008 1:40:25 AM

      Must be nice to still have health care, most of us are priced out of it as our non-government jobs have had to raise prices to keep up.
      You need to read your local paper and look at the obit section.... The average ages of the males dying are just a little older than you are. The government life expectancy figures are skewed.

  • Posted By: ploughman @ 10/28/2008 11:05:14 PM

    This is yet another argument for single-payer health care. People from places like Canada and Europe shake their heads in amazement that Americans put up with this kind of thing. Sure doesn't seem very much like "freedom." Quinn is right: health insurance is a HUGE barrier to early retirement (a common dream for many people). If they don't get rejected for PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS (something McCain wouldn't do a thing to prevent!), people in the 50-65 range could face monthly costs running well into the four digits and be paying a lot more for health insurance than for a mortgage (if they have one). Many people have to give up their dream of early retirement once they see those numbers.

    There's one other option Quinn didn't mention: Move away from the U.S. Costs in the U.S. are so bad that it's possible in some countries, like Thailand, to get good-quality care at one-fifth to one-tenth the U.S. costs. In other words, paying 100% there is cheaper than co-pays in the U.S. Some insurance is available against catastrophic costs, and the more advanced developed countries have facilities that can handle things like MRIs, PET scans, heart surgery and cancer (often with U.S.-educated doctors). Your biggest "gap" might be the most expensive, most cutting-edge treatments, but these are ones insurance balks at very often in the U.S. as well.

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