Will My Marriage Last?

Congratulations. However, you'll find that your marriage, even if it's allowed to stand, will mean little in practical terms. I married my partner of 35 years 5 years ago. We have made our lives together for almost 40 years. We still cant file a joint tax return or inherit each other's pension. We went to Canada to marry. Our governor here in New York has declared our marriage to be legal. All I've got s far is a $6 reduction in our auto insurance.
It's shocking and saddening to read the foul slanders and lies adopted by the pro 8 zealots. If such language were used against any other segment of the population there would be an outcry. So what is really a struggle to claim our civil rights has been turned into a fantasy about children. I am almost at the point where I don't care any more if same-sex marriage becomes legal or not. I'm not sure I want to join the larger community in a country where such ignorance and vitriol is the currency of public debate.
Marriage is a civil institution. Couples marry in a church under license from the state. That two men, or two women, should marry each other threatens no one. To pretend that it does is, at best, a lie.
Good luck to you. May your marriage bring you joy.

The Democrat party promotes gay marriage in the party platform, therefore, the Democrat party is gay for gay marriage.

VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY

DON'T BE GAY

Unless you want to see more of this depravity.

Thank you Democrats for being gay for gay marriage

VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT IS GAY


DON'T BE GAY

Abused spouses, abused children, high divorce rates, multiple marriages, co-habitation, out-of-wedlock births - yup, many of us heterosexuals are doing a great job of upholding the sanctity of marriage and family.

To the author: Dude, you're thinking is whacked.

The practice of homosexuality is a SIN. Eventually you will see that. The masses can whine all they want about how to not allow homosexual marriage is repressive, isn't "fair", hurts their feelings or whatever. But one thing the pro-gay crowd is missing is the fact that right and wrong, good and bad, truth vs. fantasy, is not decided by popular vote or by emotion or even what might make sense to people. It is decided by God and ONLY by God.

And nowhere....NOWHERE!.....in scriptures ancient or modern has God EVER said that the practice of homosexual desires is morally acceptable.

May God bless all those who love Him and who aren't afraid to call a spade a spade.

To deny two people the right to marry is unconscionable and unforgivable. You worship a false God if you believe otherwise and we don't deserve to be recognized as a civilized nation or a society with decent moral values. I'm sorry, but your interpretation of religious beliefs does not give you or anyone else the right to treat one citizen of our country or even visitor to it with any less rights than any other. To do so, pushes us back to barbaric times when people were punished even to the death for not believing in a prevaling doctrine, religious or otherwise. So,I voted against this ludicrous repeal of a California law because it violates the constitutional rights of a segment of our citizenry. I am not gay, nor do I necessarily personally endorse the gay lifestyle, but that doesn't matter. What I do value above everything is the constitution of these United States and the rights to personal liberty that guarantees. To deny someone these, as is the case currently in 47 of the States, is a disgraceful and pathetic hypocrisy and blatantly illegal.

If one strongly follows a faith that sanctifies only the marriage of man and woman, then it is understandable that one would fight for that belief as well. If there was a movement to allow adults to marry children would it be wrong that many in a community or country would aggressive fight against that? Psychologically, it is obvious that homosexuality is as engrained in individuals as is heterosexuality. But biologically, there is no question that homosexuality defies the natural order of things. Procreation is a most fundamental instinct and purpose in all creatures, human or otherwise. Homosexuality while socially and psychologically acceptable to some, is religiously and biologically repulsive to others. It is an aberration that bypasses the natural order of things. When a gay couple can naturally consumate their marriage with an offspring, then I will be among those who are willing to accept homosexuality as normal human behavior.

The opponents of Proposition 8 shouldn't worry. Even if the measure is passes, a federal court will very likely overturn the election as they did with Prop. 187... simply negate the voice of the people of California and gay marriage will be allowed.

It strikes me that no one sees the incredibly hypocritical irony of the very verbiage of same-sex marriage bans in relation to the intent to "defend the santity of marriage".

"One man, one woman".

So, the way to defend the santity of marriage is to enact a law that states that what two people have between their legs is more important than what they have in their hearts?

Penis? Check.

Vagina? Check.

Ok, you can get married. No, it doesn't matter if you love or even like each other or really see this union lasting. You passed the genitalia test. That's all that really matters.

I would just like to know when we are going to figure out that if we are ever, as a nation, are ever to fulfill the ideals of freedom, justicve and equality that make us the greatest nation on earth..that voting on each other's rights to be treated fairly and equally under the law is unacceptable!

My civil and constitutional rights are not your's to give or take..and visa versa.

Even if Prop 8 passes, this won't be the last word. Not even close. Gay Americans and the families and friends who love them will never stop fighting for equality.

I'm a Coloradan and worked on the No on 2 campaign back in 1992. Amendment 2 was a law backed by many of the same names and groups as Prop 8. It denied gay Coloradans legal recourse if they were fired or denied public accommodations based on their sexual orientation. It was ruled unconstiutional by the US Supreme Court because it "fenced out" a specific segment of people and denied them the same rights as others. Same sex marriage bans will eventually meet the same fate.

Lastly, I would like to leave you with a story about a man named Ralph Carr, who was the republican governor of Colorado when Pearl Harbor was attacked.

He was the only political leader who to speak out against the injustice of interning Americans of Japanese ancestry.

His stand at a time when anti-Japanese sentiment was profound was not popular and it cost him his job.

But today, he is remembered as a wise and courageous man who knew that discrimination didn't just hurt the people it was directed at.

"He sacrificed his political career to bravely confront the often dark side of human nature. "If you harm them, you must harm me. I was brought up in a small town where I knew the shame and dishonor of race hatred. I grew to despise it because it threatened the happiness of you and you and you." Carr's selfless devotion to all Americans, while destroying his hopes for a senate seat, did in the end become extolled as, "a small voice but a strong voice."

We all need to be more like Ralph Carr.








We need more leaders like Ralph Carr.

And just one more thing...To Sheebe...

You keep saying that you don't want your grandchildren "to learn it in grade school".

Learn WHAT?

That gay people exist?

Let's forget for a second that they are going to see gay people in everyday life anyway...on TV, in the movies, in real life...

Do you believe that knowing about gay people is going to make them gay?

Do you believe that you son "turned" gay from finding out about gay people?

I don't believe you do.]

So what are you afraid of them learning? Have you not read that the head of education in California has said that the Prop 8 ads that try to scare people by saying that their kids will be taught about homosexulity if it doesn't pass is baloney? If not, go back and read the above article again.

And if you really love your son..which I believe you do..you should HOPE that kids grow up learning that gay people are their equals. It would quite a few of those children that you're worried about the pain and torment that most gay people..your son included, I'm sure..endured, from others, during their journey to self-acceptance.

Those who would deny homosexuals equal rights are simply wrong-headed and mean-spirited. Christians who say that gay weddings are wrong argue that marriage is "sacred." Will divorce be the next target of religious extremists? What about other personal aspects of our lives? Do Christians follow every single tenet of their faith or do they simply pick and chose those which they deem worthy of their support or objects of their scorn? I am neither homosexual nor religious, but to those who would deny basic rights to gay folks because they are labeled "sinners," I say, "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone." To those whose empathy and human vision is impaired by the timber in your own eye, I say, "Judge not lest ye be judged." As someone who will celebrate my 43rd wedding anniversary this month, I offer another rule: "Live and let live."

Homosexuality is a sin, but so is divorce. I am a Christian but I am tired of how the church and religious right are persecuting gay people. The Bible says to take the plank out of your own eye before trying to get the splinter out of your neighbor's eye. Until we as heterosexualy start respecting marriage, how can we say that allowing gay couples to marry will cause the destruction of historical marriage? I will pray for and love everyone regardless of their sexual orientation and until I am perfect I will not judge or try to force my moral beliefs on anyone.

The anatomy of the male and female human body will forever stand as a silent witness against 'gay marriages'.

Good luck brother, and please continue to testify regardless of the outcome.

My wife and I are offended that anyone would think that your marriage could somehow affect ours. IMHO, anyone who whines about the sanctity of marriage shows a real lack of commitment to their own.