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Going After Bin Laden

A new book by the lead Delta Force member on the hunt details how the U.S. almost got Osama in 2001.

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  • Posted By: jbz7879 @ 02/26/2009 12:31:12 PM

    this is a very subjective analysis hardly any objective evidence if he was even there in tora bora -looks like a totally misconceived misadventure with personal speculations about what was happenning
    rather a mishap asv the entire afghan -pak-iraq operation has been with trillions wasted to create a bankrupt economy -

  • Posted By: Oldedinthailad @ 10/31/2008 7:23:00 PM

    Boots on the ground alone don't make it. It is really. really hard to convince the people that you are killing them for their own good. While I was there I saw the army make rules to train locals for jobs & most contractors just treat that as fugedaboutit thing that was taken as just paperwork.
    PS; If a presidntial candidate knows how to take Bin Laden (?) out & won't reveal it unless he is elected, is he not an enemy of America.

    • Posted By: Combat Goldfish @ 11/05/2008 3:18:09 PM

      You don't have to convince someone to go to war if they've already swore and signed the dotted line. More troops may or may not work, however, we're not really doing anything to speed up the processes of bringing this part of history to an end.

  • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 11/03/2008 8:17:53 AM

    Do not understand why Army Rangers, or other QRF's from XVIII Airborne Corps were not rushed to the battlefield. Some units are supposed to be in the air within 18 hours. Why weren't they used? Operation Anaconda did not achieve its objectives, LZ's were hot with AQ/T-ban, they had the high ground, our intel was bad. There is a need for light, small UAV's at platoon and even sqaud level. It would be nice to know wats on the other side of the ridge, and it would help prevent ambush. Thank God for the Carl Gustav, also known as RAAWS, it was critical in taking out bunkers and killing hadji's in caves. The DoD should concentrate on this war, not on one that may never happen. Some parts of the FCS are good for today, the rest should be put on the back burner. We will be fighting these kinds of battles for the next 10 yrs.

  • Posted By: wesmenno @ 11/02/2008 9:31:16 PM

    This isn't horseshoes; "almost" doesn't count.

    And have you noticed how every other month we hear of a "top senior lieutenant" of Al Qaeda being captured?

    You

    You would think that with 30 top officials captured there would be nobody lest but bin Ladin.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/01/2008 7:08:48 PM

    Sarah palin when asked about becoming vp responded

    "As for that VP talk all the time, I tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me, 'what is it exactly that the VP does every day......"

    After she had been the nominee for around 2 months she was asked again and this time said

    [T]hey???re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

    WRONG THE VP IS THERE TO STEP IN IF SOMTHING HAPPENS TO THE PRESIDENT ONLY THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICY AND THEY DONT RUN THE SENATE!!
    If she doenst know what the vice pres or presidant does why would we give her the job

    Mccain has around a 40 percent chance because of his age in not being able to

    complete his term picking palin was about as smart as picking any other mrs Alaska contestant.

    Its not just that we disagree with her answers in alot of cases she doesnt understand basic questions
    like what is the bush doctrine, or what do you read.
    These are not gotcha questions!!!
    One of advisors recently said not only was she unqualified but said mccain picked her after 1 interview of about a hour
    and that even at mcdonalds you get 3 interviews.
    Members of her own campaign called her a diva and a whack job.
    They would know better then anyone else right now.

    So mccain gambled and he lost big. He ended up with a girl that cant answer questions that most of the people reading this can answer.
    at the same time mccain could never read this blog because he cant use a computer at all.
    I mean his wife has 100 million dollars get him classes or something.

    Am i crazy or do we want a computer literate president and a vp who can answer a least basic questions.
    If you read the rest of the articles on this site you would think the world is about to end
    So if thats the case these are the last 2 people you want running anything.
    let send them packing.

    ELECT OBAMA BIDEN NOW

  • Posted By: peterhailey @ 11/01/2008 6:03:24 PM

    Need I remind you that it was Pakistan in 1976 that burned down the American embassy yet we did nothing. That is what embolden the Iranians to take over our embassy and hold our people hostage. It is no coinsidence that the hostiges were release the very day Ronald Reagan took office. Through the war in Iraq American solders have accepted inceased casulities as a trade off for reduced Iraq civilian casulities. Twice Bin Laden was in our crosshairs but decision not to attack can from the white house itself. Did we no learn from Vietnam that you do not fight a war from the oval office? Did we not learn that you do not win a war by trying not to hurt the enemy too much? When you are at war, you kill the enemy. ALL of them, military and civilian. When you are at war you defeat not only the combatant sent against you but the peolples and governments that sent them. You kill not only the enemy on the field but their mothers and fathers, their brothers and sisters, their children. You impose upon the enemy unacceptable casulities so that never again will they comtemplate attacking again.

  • Posted By: ObamaYesWeCan @ 11/01/2008 5:21:51 PM

    This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

    Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

    ...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

    Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

    After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.


    Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

  • Posted By: expatincebu @ 10/31/2008 5:30:29 AM

    It would be easier to get Bin Laden if he were NOT in the pay of the US government or Bush's family friend. In other words, if they actually wanted to get him and were trying to get him, which they are not.

    • Posted By: anOPINIONATEDsob @ 11/01/2008 4:42:44 PM

      There is nothing verifiable in what I have just read here and nothing that has any relevance to what we actually did during this engagement. All after action reports paint a very different picture than what is represented here. All orders originated from Langley via McDill and had to have been originating from the White House or the field team would have completed it's assignment and the cleaners would have sanitized the press releases to reflect the chosen story.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/31/2008 9:39:41 AM

      I believe he is sitting comfortably, in a Villa, in Pakistan, in the care of the ISI. He is more valuable to him alive than their lousy weapons program. We give the Paks billions in aid that dries up once Osama is caught.
      Bush Crime Family friend, yeah. He is that, no doubt.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/01/2008 2:29:15 PM

    Sarah palin when asked about becoming vp responded

    "As for that VP talk all the time, I tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me, 'what is it exactly that the VP does every day......"

    After she had been the nominee for around 2 months she was asked again and this time said

    [T]hey???re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

    If she doenst know what the vice pres or presidant does why would we give her the job

    mccain has around a 40 percent chance because of his age in not being able to

    complete his term

    picking palin was about as smart as picking any other mrs alaska contestant

    let send her back to the north

    elect obama biden now

  • Posted By: awild111 @ 11/01/2008 1:08:40 PM

    Comment: "it is a shame that WE no longer grow leaders like Rommel..."??

    Rommel was a German military leader, Einstien...

    The correct spelling is . . . Einstein.

    The trouble is not the military leaders in the field . . . it is the politicians back home that are all too often pulling the strings. If we allowed our military to function more autonomously, Bin Laden would be long dead.

  • Posted By: bohdansz @ 11/01/2008 9:02:26 AM

    This is most certainly responsibility of the Pentagon. This operation was not private: the Pentagon was following everything. Someone didn't understand the necessity to surroung Bin Laden and to cut all routes of escape! It's a shame that we no longer grow leaders like Rommel or Patton!

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 11/01/2008 9:57:06 AM

      "it is a shame that WE no longer grow leaders like Rommel..."??

      Rommel was a German military leader, Einstien...

  • Posted By: abadreview @ 10/31/2008 3:04:22 PM

    Wow. So our brave soldiers could have captured or killed Bin Laden, but the Bush administration wouldn't allow them to. This is yet one more reason that the GOP doesn't deserve another chance at the White House for a long, long, time. They allowed America's biggest enemy to escape when we had him in our crosshairs. You'd think that 3,000 dead American civilians would be enough for them to say: "whatever you have to do, just kill him", instead they played politics and let our biggest nemesis since Hitler escape into Pakistan. Disgraceful, and we will not forget.

    • Posted By: Easyrider49 @ 10/31/2008 3:31:12 PM

      Where does that put your womanizing , cowardly , piece of crap president bill clinton , he way more than had binladen in his sites after the World Trade Center bombing and let him go so he could continue terrorism and eventually return to the World Trade Center with much worse consequences , or did you just happen to forget that . 3000+ dead because of the COWARD bill clinton !!

      • Posted By: valark @ 10/31/2008 7:40:30 PM

        The idea that this is the responsibility of a political party is hysterical...on both sides.

        Grow up.

    • Posted By: Easyrider49 @ 10/31/2008 3:37:21 PM

      What happened when bill clinton the coward , womanizer had him way more than just in his sites , did he let him go ?? If they would have stopped him at that time the people that died at the World Trade Center would still be alive . You talk about the GOP who did bill clinton the COWARD belong to other the osama binladen , he sure was not an American leader in most peoples eyes at thatc time . Bombing the World Trade Center I think was a crime at that time ??

  • Posted By: abadreview @ 10/31/2008 3:07:39 PM

    "kiki1978" do the entire U.S.A. a favor and kill yourself, you hateful, fearmongering, uneducated douche. You obviously are a loser who probably can't get laid, so you spend your time putting down others who are successful. America is a melting pot dip$hit, if you don't like Muslims, then you don't like the majority of the world's citizens, because Islam is the most popular religion in the world. Seriously, shut up and go play in traffic.

    • Posted By: valark @ 10/31/2008 7:39:45 PM

      Yes, this makes perfect sense, because as everyone knows, the ability to "get laid" is what defines you as a person. And as we all also know, it is really very very very hard to accomplish sex with someone else, hardly every happens.

      I really don't understand any of your posts Bad. You seem to have something you want to say, but the way you say it is like hammering a nail with a jackhammer. The nail ( your point ) gets so far embedded by your force that no one can make it out anymore.

    • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/31/2008 6:36:09 PM

      Wow, the so-called 'tolerant' left-wingers are all aghast when someone exercises their right of free speech but doesn't toe the liberal line of political correctness. It is amusing and hypocritical, but hardly surprising.

    • Posted By: kiki1978 @ 10/31/2008 3:13:43 PM

      Islam is the second largest religion after Christianity. You call me hateful... but you are the one slamming insults.

  • Posted By: kiki1978 @ 10/31/2008 11:09:31 AM

    Barrach Hussein Obama..... Osama Bin Laden.... hmmm... he should be able to catch him. They are probably buddies who comunicate frequently. Even if ther is only a 1% chance Obama is a muslim and has ill motive for this country, who wants to take that 1% chance?? NOT ME.. My children live in America. My parents and my siblings. I'm not taking a 1% chance with their lives or my own. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

    • Posted By: avg joe25 @ 10/31/2008 11:43:40 AM

      you really 30 yrs old?
      you don't sound so bright though...
      why would he catch him if they are buddies? and if they are buddies, why did Mc Ancient not bring it up during the campaign? ancient likes to smear everyone, right?

      • Posted By: Combat Goldfish @ 10/31/2008 12:17:24 PM

        Posted By: kiki1978 @ 10/31/2008 11:09:31 AM
        Comment: Barrach Hussein Obama..... Osama Bin Laden.... hmmm... he should be able to catch him. They are probably buddies who comunicate frequently. Even if ther is only a 1% chance Obama is a muslim and has ill motive for this country, who wants to take that 1% chance?? NOT ME.. My children live in America. My parents and my siblings. I'm not taking a 1% chance with their lives or my own. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!


        Do you SERIOUSLY believe that? That's amazing. Because he has a last name of Obama in your mind it sounds close enough to Osama. That must mean they're friend or even family huh? That's like saying Joe Johnson knows Simon Johnston. After all, the names are almost the same right?

        Let's actually pretend a fraction of what you said was true. A friendship between bin Laden and Obama. Do you think that Obama, an elected official with the us government who monitors like crazy since 9/11, wouldn't catch up on this? Not to mention an extensive background check for governement officals are preformed. Anyone who works for the government knows how exstentive it can be. And I would imagine it's even worse for someone who is running for the presidency.

        Also, I've never seen nor heard Obama is a Muslim. In fact, he's stated on several occassions he's Christian. If you actually reseach, you will see that. Not that anything is wrong with choosing the Muslim faith. Not every Muslim hates America and wants to bomb us. Pick up a book and stop being so close minded.

        • Posted By: kiki1978 @ 10/31/2008 2:41:13 PM

          I have heard him say that he "was" a mulim. He has also said that he went to a mulim school but quickly dismisses it by also saying he went to a Catholic school. Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education..

          Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

          Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seekin g major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined a Church in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. Minister Wright who hates white people. But Obama says that he does not believe what Wright believes and preached for all those years Obama attended his church.

          And for those of you who do not think muslims are dangerous, may I remind you:

          1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim maleextremist.

          2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
          massacred by Muslim male extremists.

          3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim
          maleextremists.

          4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
          by Muslim male extremists.

          5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim
          male extremists.

          6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
          American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair
          by Muslim male extremists.

          7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver
          trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim maleextremists. (
          remember the pilot of this flight was from Richmond , MO )




          8. In 1988 , Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim maleextremists.

          9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time byMuslim
          male extremists.

          10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed
          by Muslim male extremists.

          11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles
          to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one
          crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by
          the passengers. Thousands of people were killed byMuslim
          male extremists.

          12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan againstMuslim
          male extremists.

          13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by Muslim male extremists.

          Its not closed minded its reality. People get too laid back and comfortable and that why things like 9/11 happen.

          • Posted By: Combat Goldfish @ 10/31/2008 4:52:56 PM

            Nice. Did you get that from a hate website? I would assume so. Since you can't even seem to spell Muslim, but in the nice copy and paste, it's spelt correctly.

            Like I said, wouldn't matter if he was or was not. All the comments you've expressed are overwhelmingly closed minded and I feel ashamed for having people like you in my country.

            • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 10/31/2008 6:34:03 PM

              Yeah, all those pesky facts he recites don't square with your politically correct, limp-wristed view of the world, do they?

          • Posted By: newswatcher1119 @ 10/31/2008 4:16:26 PM

            Just because some Muslims are terrorists does not mean all Muslims are. There are white Americans like Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski who have committed terrible acts of terrorism--does that mean all white Americans are terrorists? Not even close.

    • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 10/31/2008 1:48:12 PM

      There is no chance that Barrack Obama and Osama bin Ladin are friends. But the Bush family and Osama bin Ladin used to be pretty good buddies.

      My children live in America, too. But the extremists I'm worried about are not the Moslem extremists, dangerous though they may be. The extremists I'm more worried about are my fellow Americans, like Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, who have been willing to lie and commit our military to a war we didn't need to fight, instead of the war we should have fought.

      Obama understands the difference.

  • Posted By: rkhatal @ 10/31/2008 3:25:30 PM

    Did anyone notice that in the last video of Bin-Laden the speaker looked nothing like Bin Laden. So I believe he is probably dead and the video was fake just to influence the election. May be Dems did it to show that BL is still alive and Bush failed and it back fired, or Reps did it to boost their candidate !

    My question to this delta force guy is, what the hell were you doing that night when the Mujhedins had Al Qaida surrounded and started negotiating. Were you catching your all important 8 hour sleep ? Did the breakfast took too long to cook ? If I was a US soldier, I would have stayed day and night in the battlefield, knowing the most wanted man is in the vicinity and surrounded.

    • Posted By: Combat Goldfish @ 10/31/2008 5:12:46 PM

      That's a pretty bold statement to make as a civilian. Most combat soldiers operate on less than 8 hours of sleep. From experience I've been on 18 hour missions. The remaining 6 hours had been set aside for maintance, leaders meetings, and sleep.

      Anyone (including soldiers) can only go without sleep. Regardless of the targets.

    • Posted By: LeBo100 @ 10/31/2008 4:06:33 PM

      Show a little respect to those who do your fighting for you BOY! I realize you just sit around and watch movies and think thats how the military operates but get off your a#* and do some fighting yourself.Stop complaining about others who are willing to put there butts on the line.

    • Posted By: LeBo100 @ 10/31/2008 3:51:05 PM

      What are you thinking? Oh thats right you have never been in the military, you just know what you see in the movies. Well kid, guarantee if you had some delta force guy in front of you your tune would be different. Show a little respect to those who fight for you.

    • Posted By: Easyrider49 @ 10/31/2008 3:43:57 PM

      You would not be allowed to be a pimple on a Delta Force memeber a*s so don't even try to sound like you are some body , just shut up STUPID and go watch an obama infomercial .

  • Posted By: Perfessor @ 10/31/2008 3:56:55 PM

    I remember that we bombed the heck out of the mines and deep caves in the Tora Bora area that Al Queda was using to hide in. We were using special deep detonating bombs that would breech any fortified underground facility no matter how deep they were. I know that we succeeded in killing a large number of Al Queda that way but we missed Bin Laden. I heard that he survived by moving out into the open and holing up in a slit trench on top of the ground, until the bombing was over.
    I was looking for more illumination on this in the above article. I would like to hear more on this. Anyone?

  • Posted By: Perfessor @ 10/31/2008 3:40:37 PM

    i remember an interesting fact from the Tora Bora bombings that were supposed to get Bin Laden back at that time. We were using special deep working bombs that were designed to penetrate deep caves and mines of the type that were being used by Bin Laden and Al Queda in the Tora Bora area. We peppered the area pretty good. Busted a lot of underground facilities and killed a number of Al Queda, but not Bin Laden. I heard later that he survived by moving out into the open and holing up in a slit trench until the bombing was over. He was not in an underground cave. He was on top.
    I was hoping to hear more on that in this discussion. Anyone?

  • Posted By: thom77 @ 10/31/2008 2:30:11 PM

    Its pretty apparent that the reason we didn't get this guy is because of political correctness and our unwillingness to offend the delicate sensitivities of those peaceful muslims who hate us and want to kill us. If we had gone after him full-bore like the special forces wanted to, Bin Laden would have been dead six months after 9/11. Its disgraceful. Now we're on the verge of electing a weak-kneed child who wants to hold hands and sing kumbya with these people.

    • Posted By: kiki1978 @ 10/31/2008 3:25:43 PM

      I totally agree with you thom77!!

  • Posted By: kiki1978 @ 10/31/2008 11:05:42 AM

    Barrack Hussein Obama ... he should be able to get Osama Bin Laden... they are probably buddies who talk on a regular basis.

    • Posted By: rtsimons @ 10/31/2008 12:08:24 PM

      You are an idiot.

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    They need to hire the people who go after you if you default on a student loan, those guys can find anyone.

    • Posted By: All 4 USA @ 10/31/2008 3:11:24 PM

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