The Whoppers of 2008—The Sequel

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  • Posted By: BigR @ 11/02/2008 12:23:22 AM

    The only Whopper being told in this election is that Obama is qualified to be our President, With help from the media (just like the title of this story) showing one sided headlines and only good about Obama and hiding any negative news about Obama, the media has been guiding Americans to vote the way they want you to. The media has rafused to give all the news good and bad for both candidates in equal time. The media and Obama assume most Americans are morons and need to be guided to vote for the party they think you should vote for and that you can't be trusted with the facts as you would not vote for who they endorse. I am so disgusted with the way most media outlets reported one sided stories to pump up the party they wanted you to vote for. Obama is not qualified (Jos Biden has said that) and did know and work with Bill Ayers ( a terrorist) and he did sit and listen to Reverend Wright say "God Damn America" for 20 years. And when is the last time you heard a Democrat say "I Love America" or that we are a "Great Nation" OR "Great Country" ? Why is it that I hear those words from John McCain and most Republican Candidates most of the time ? Democrats have a real hard time saying those words, they seem to want us to be like France and Europe. I want to stay American . McCain is an honest American Loving man who will do what is best for this country and has a record to prove it (Obama does not).

    • Posted By: Scott138 @ 11/02/2008 12:49:48 AM

      We need to get religion out of politics, they need to start appointing Atheists and Agnostics to office. All religious people have an agenda, keep the government secular.

      • Posted By: kcounts1 @ 11/02/2008 2:46:16 AM

        This country was founded on religion. It wasn't until God was removed that America started to crumble. How many school shootings have there been in the past couple of years since we are no longer aloud to say ...one nation under God...?

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 12:28:48 AM

      Have you not noticed that Barack is a family man, good morals, sound judgement. After all he is the only one in the U.S. Senate or House who voted against the war in Iraq. He is the one who has been married to the same woman--unlike the honorable John McCain who was running around with current wife while still married to first wife who had waited for him while he was a prisoner of war. Gee, how we overlook these facts. As far as experience is concerned, the American people have experienced just about all they can stand of Republicans. Now is the time for change. VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA!

      • Posted By: Americansforabetterusa @ 11/02/2008 1:01:58 AM

        Sound Judgment? give me a break. He wants to take money from everyone and redistribute as he see's fit to do so. He has family members who by definition are in poverty and he won't help them out with his own money. Instead he wants money from you, me and everyone else to help his family and others. look at his associations with known terrorists and radicals. He attended the same church for what 20 years with the most radical religious nut case around. Sound Judgment does not say vote for Obama. If we are to follow his outlined plan we move to socialism and then that leads to communism. So Comm rad start practicing the goose stepping routine because Obama will not be happy until you are 100% lockstep in place with him, Disagree with him you get discriminated against, such as in the case of the 3 news reporters because their papers endorsed McCain. Obama only like you if you agree with him and that is the plain and simple truth. He cannot take criticism well and believe me he will get even more. A vote for Obama is a vote to turn your paycheck over to radical liberal. Spread the wealth campaign will be more like spread the cheeks and take it up the ?>+.

      • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/02/2008 12:53:15 AM

        Edie V, Obama voted against the war??? you clearly want us to know how intelligent you are to think he voted against a war!!! he was not a Senator at that time, thanks for showing the level of intelligence of the mainstream Democrat and how well you have educated yourself on the facts that you want to vote on.... The elite democrats are counting on your lack of intelligence to get them elected. Why do you think they always, every election try to promise to improve education, yet never do... if they do, no one will vote for them... they count on you forgetting what they promised you last election, and the election before... they count on that because they know if you remember, you may see them for what they are.... they run on false hopes and false promises that they'll never keep... get an education.... you're an embarrassment to yourself and the rest of the americans...

    • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 12:43:11 AM

      honest american man! He is the lowest form os scum bag. Fact: Paid off Joe the dead beat dads back child support to vote for him. Fact: Never talks about his plans only obamas : Spews nothing but negativity and hate : Fact left his wife who waited for him while he was in pow camp for five years. five years! Left her while she is dying with cancer. And when asked why on CNN McCain revealed he said he didnt know. McCain represents nothing and stands for nothing except what America shouldn't be! Wake Up! You have no fact and no opinions. Your unoriginality comes straight out of the mouths of rightwing radio hosts who like to thin of themselves as well off.!

      On another note Obama isnt hurting any small buisness's. If your business is bringing in over a qauter million a year profit then its making at least 30,000 a month.

  • Posted By: libertymonger @ 11/02/2008 2:41:45 AM

    (1) When Barack Obama says, "95% of Americans will get a federal tax cut" with his plan when only about 65% of Americans pay taxes now, how is that not welfare?

    (2) For the record, Obama voted yes on a bill to raise taxes for those making over $42,000 per year, but that bill did not become law.

    (3) Also, for the record, the "embryonic stem cell" research bill passed in 2001 does not ban embryonic stem cell research; it bans the use of FEDERAL FUNDS for embryonic stem cell research. Embryonic stem cell research can still be carried on with private funding.

  • Posted By: Oldschoolpaulie @ 11/01/2008 6:51:07 PM

    Welcome to the Newsweek spin zone:
    Mccain doesn't disort Obama's tax plan, Obama distorts it. He wants us to believe that he's going to ADD a trillion in more spending, but not raise our taxes, and pretends that his intent to let the Bush tax cuts lapse doesn't equal a tax increase. (duh)
    Furthermore, Obama's connections to former Weatherman Bill Ayers and the community group ACORN are well documented, as well as his relationship to rabidly racist/anti American Rev. Wright, and numerous other Anti-American or otherwise subversive radicals.
    Obama also continues to decieve only the most dense of voters about his Marxist ideologies by using PC language such as "Economic Justice" and "spreading the wealth."

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 7:36:19 PM

      Don't worry Obama will tax you all even down to 42,000 dollars and what obama don't take will cost you more just do the math everything will cost more the taxes will trickle down to everyone.

      • Posted By: Romero @ 11/01/2008 9:52:50 PM

        Do you think the oil companies need a tax break. Do you think we should be giving tax breaks to companies sending jobs oversea. I worked for 16 years in the IRS and saw tax abuse in favor of the wealthy. Sir, I saw wealthy members of our society get breaks on penalty when they did something wrong, that you or I would never have recieved a break. Unless you are wealthy enough to have a lobbies to have tax laws passed to benefit you, you do not know what you are talking about. Maybe we deserve the President Bush and another like him. I would much rather see a change than continue the same way our country has been going. God forbid that anything would happen to John McCain if he becomes President. That will be the beginning of the end at this country being a world power. To be quite honest I do not care who gets elected, as long as the US of A exist, I will have a pension thank you. I have always known how to live within my means and not caring what the Joneses did down the street. I have not been a materalist individual. I put two sons through college without borrowing anymoney. When they graduated they did not have to start life with any debts thank you. Most Americans are materialist ( remember I did not say all, I said most). We tend to be selfish and want want want for our selves and the hell with our less fortunate Americans. The trueth is tha all great powers have distroyed themselfs from within. They have distroyed themself starting with the decline of morals. There are many Christians that think that politics will make us a moral nation. Oh, how many of these poor brothers and sisters lost there way in this confusing world. They have lost sight of the "Beacon". Obama nor McCain will make a change to our moral decline and our altimate down fall as a people.

        • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:36:26 AM

          But we do so need a change.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:34:05 AM

      There you go, spouting McCain/ Palin lies. Do you guys ever read anything for yourself. You might try checking up on facts. I have heard this same speech come out of McCain's mouth all week long. You have not heard Barack Obama say any of these things and neither has McCain. I am McCain has not read Barack's plan on line because McCain prides himself in not being able to use a computer. Isn't that kind of sad that a may who wants to be President of the most powerful nation on earth prides himself in being so backwards.

  • Posted By: chuck409 @ 11/02/2008 1:51:28 AM

    Calipauthy, you make a valid point. My personal toils are what led to my opinion. As a small business owner, I did see a mild tax decrease. That is not what my opinion is referring to, as it seems both candidates will have similliar taxation policies despite what the media says. I am disapointed with the overall run of the country under the Bush adminstration. Foreign policy as well as domestic. We are always going to pay taxes so the politicians can get rich and bail out the banks. Then we can borrow some of our own money back and pay the banks for it as well. I did my research and made my decision based on that along with my opinion of the current administration compared to that of the last administration.

    • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/02/2008 1:07:52 AM

      you have a business, well i find that hard to believe if you support the democrats. you must think that your profits should be given to others, since they need it more, and they have saved and invested just as much as you in your business. Please. If you saved and opened your own business, you would know how much the Bush tax reductions helped you to stay in business. You claim you have a business, do you think the government can spend your profits on the poor better than you can if you re invest your profits in your business to grow it larger, thus hiring more people? what business do you have? how many employees do you have, do you pay for health care? do you offer a 401k or do you give a pension? You said before you think the last 8 years were the worst in history... how did your business survive?

      • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 2:33:15 AM

        um if people dont have money to spend it doesnt matter how many tax credits she gets for her bussiness, nobody who owns a business has been doing well. my emplyers laid off a doezen people. at least a dozen places have closed in the last month alone along my street and I live in a major city. If you say you have a bussniess and that its doind well then your a liar lie McCain. Its consumers that keep people in busniess not tax breaks. what good is a tax break with no profits.

  • Posted By: Siciliano @ 11/02/2008 2:31:58 AM

    rgpizza2008
    My Friend. You didn't really say "My Bad"

    What are you. 12?

  • Posted By: Lille @ 11/02/2008 12:53:05 AM

    I don't need made up stories to decide who to vote for.
    I only need facts Facts I can't ignore. #1 Obama won't show his birth certificate. #2 Obama won't
    show his medical records. #3 Obama won't show his college grades or application #4 Obama and
    his campaign won't use basic security to prevent illegal contributions into his campaign Why should
    anyone vote for someone who won't show so much about himself?
    contributions from flowing into his campaign.

    • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 1:08:16 AM

      Um are you death? Fact McCain won't show his medical health records umm Fact McCain wont show his psyciatric records which are very important because many people who were prisoners of war can go crazy! He might think hes back at pow camp and order soilders to do something stupid um Fact he left his dying wife while sick with cancer 4. umm fact he wants to tell people who they can marry and when they can have a baby . Stop trying to pretend you didnt have your mind made up before you came on this site. Why would anybody want to vote for McCain is the real question?

      • Posted By: macauley10 @ 11/02/2008 1:17:52 AM

        Fact: Any son who has a Father in the Communist party may have a hidden agenda to trick a country into electing him president so he can "Spread the Wealth" and promote CHANGE

        • Posted By: ohioRN @ 11/02/2008 1:09:31 AM

          Did Obama claim to be raised by his father? I thought he was mostly loyal to his mother and grandparents from Kansas, One of the great 50 states! Why is everyone so scared?......He has a love for our country, ...which is also his country and he's going to try to fix some of the mess ups!

          • Posted By: kcounts1 @ 11/02/2008 2:26:46 AM

            If this is his country too why doesn't he show some respect and place his hand on his heart during The National Anthem. Oh, that's right, he said he wasn't raised that way.

          • Posted By: kcounts1 @ 11/02/2008 2:21:18 AM

            If this is his country then why doesn't he show some respect and place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. Oh, that's right, he said he wasn't raised that way.

        • Posted By: ohioRN @ 11/02/2008 1:10:52 AM

          Did Obama claim to be raised by his father? I thought he was mostly loyal to his mother and grandparents from Kansas, One of the great 50 states! Why is everyone so scared?......He has a love for our country, ...which is also his country and he's going to try to fix some of the mess ups!

    • Posted By: bmotor3 @ 11/02/2008 1:19:16 AM

      boy are you misinformed his personal business is all over the internet including his birth certificate

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 2:26:45 AM


    I think leaving your sick, dying wife who waited for you while you were MIA for 5 years for for a younger woman shows good moral character

    Because his party the republicans has given us the best economical growth ever over the last 8 years

    Because he believes in wealth distribution so much that he paid plumber joes child support for him when he couldn't afford to.

    Because hes going to live to a ripe old age but if god forbid he kicks the bucket before 76 he has left us a competent substitute. If only she knew her her job title entails

    Because I know i'm his friend, he tells me so more times then I count every speech

    Because the less money he makes millionaires pay, the more money trickles down to me

    Because he mocks celebrities then asks one to speak at one of his speeches, oh my bad that was the only way he could get more then a couple 100 people to show up at one

    Because he cares so much about education that hes promised to spend millions of dollars putting new programs in our schools for retarded kids so his running mate can have a place for hers to go

    Because hes come up with such a great plan for the economy oh wait he doesn't have one or if he does I dont know because he spends all his time talking about his opponets

    Because he wants to give Health insurances compainies a credit for me for 2,500 dollars so i'll only have to pay a extra 200 dollars a month that I dont have anyway instead of 400.( 5,000 is for families)

    Because when he gives wallstreet anothr billion in bonuses next year half of them will take their bonuses and start new bussiness with it and create more jobs

    Finally when he gives big corparations billions and billions of dollars in tax breaks next year they will stop shipping jobs over seas for cheap labor and open more jobs right here just like theyve been doing with their tax breaks for the last 8 years

    Anybody ever notice that all the people who really know how to run the country are republicans on this message board? I wonder why not one of them have one for president yet?

  • Posted By: Dave the Yank @ 11/01/2008 7:07:43 PM

    The fourth Reich dies on Tuesday, Thank God for Barack Hussein Obama!
    McCain is Bush, GOK who Palin is apart from a fascist witch.
    McCain and the Republicans have plainly read Mein Kampf, their entire campaign has been based on the words of their hero!

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 7:27:04 PM

      Obama is Jimmy Carter or is he worse?

      • Posted By: Frankie 14 @ 11/01/2008 7:44:35 PM

        I haven't seen McCain terrorizing news reporters, plumbers, stealing votes, squandering millions of dollars, hanging with terrorists, white haters, and financial scoundreles so who is the real Nazi--looks like obama to me. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it must be a duck.

        • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:26:01 AM

          You obviously have not been through the same campaign most of us have been through. All the McCain/ Palin team did for a week was stir up hatred in this country. That was Palin's intent at every rally. What do you think she was doing when she used Joe the Plumber to call Barack a socialist? How many skin heads have you seen at McCain rallies? Start watching. Start listening. McCain is no saint. Don't put a halo on him yet.

        • Posted By: Romero @ 11/01/2008 9:28:16 PM

          Frankie 14, please do some research on Mr. McCain. IF YOU DO YOU WILL FIND HE HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD BOY!

    • Posted By: macauley10 @ 11/01/2008 8:03:39 PM

      Obama is Hitler: Does this sound familiar
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      n.
      Excessive love or admiration of oneself. See Synonyms at conceit.
      A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.
      Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one's own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.
      The attribute of the human psyche charactized by admiration of oneself but within normal limits.

  • Posted By: Angelicar219 @ 11/02/2008 1:59:39 AM

    At the end of the day, I rely on no one else???s research. I rely on common sense and self reliance, which most of us no longer have. It doesn't take a dummy or to read someone else???s research to determine, that since Bush (the republican) has been in office, our economy has changed. Commonly, I have not been happy with the way the last 8 years have been presidentially ruined by Bush, and others feel the same way. Joe the plumber and other???s who do make over a quarter of a million dollars, who are crying about their taxes being deducted are selfish, greedy, and, I rather (BLEEP). This is the reason befriended by war and terrorism. This is the reason other countries despise us, because we have become selfish, cocky, and un-bearing in our own ways. So, here is to CHANGE! I already voted for Barack Obama???

    • Posted By: nooneyouknow @ 11/02/2008 2:23:08 AM

      The dems have controlled congress for the last two years and they hold the checkbook. What have they done. You will have to remind me. I seem to remember something about Nancy P.s frist 100 hr agenda but for the life of me i cannot think of what they accomplished. Im going to make a prediction here. Obama wins the election and with both house and senate under dem. control we will not be better off after four years. Be careful what you wish for Obama fans because if my prediction holds true then you are all but insuring a rep majority and president for the following eight years.

  • Posted By: macauley10 @ 11/01/2008 7:08:23 PM

    In response to: "How do you know Obama hates white people? Is it beause YOUare bigoted?" In some of Obamas speeches where he has talked about white poeple can you imagine if McCain had given the same speech and said Black people in the same way. What is a white people anyway? Most Americans are part Native American, part Italian, part German, part French, part Italian or a mixture of everything including black or Asian by now. Just the fact that he singled out "White People" makes Obama a Bigot (a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion".

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 7:22:54 PM

      I haven't seen anyone but Obamas camp make this a race issue.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:22:24 AM

        Then you certainly haven't been listening very well to the McCain/ Palin camp.

  • Posted By: goldfishn16 @ 11/02/2008 2:12:16 AM

    Gotta love how "factcheck" glosses over B. Hussein's affiliation with Ayers. All you liberals can try to justify his relations to Wright, Rezco, Ayers and the like all you want. Any of you with a soul knows deep down that this troubles you, but your so full of buyer's remorse for selecting B. Hussein as your nominee that you're embarassed to admit it. If you truly believe in the Democrats platform, I can respect that. I may not agree with the platform, but I can accept an honest, difference of opinion. You're going to control the Senate and the House, so do the smart thing on Tuesday and pull the lever for McCain. You'll still have your platform represented in both houses of Congress, but you will at least not have been responsible for putting a man with such questionable affiliations in the past into the most honorable seat in the world. How many of you would actually sit in a church for 20 years with that much hate coming from the Reverend? How many of you would actually have your family over to dinner with an American terrorist? How many of you if in the position would give your friends kickbacks totaling millions and then have in laundried back to you in the form of a cushy real estate deal? I'm not asking you to stop being Democrats, or even to stop voting for Democrats for any other office, just listen to what your little voice is telling you about B. Hussein. I trust you will do the right thing.

    • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 2:21:29 AM

      its okay you can vote for obama, I know you want to. Do you really want to be responsible for voting for such a bastard like mccain. would you really want to be responsible for being the laughing stock of all countries and putting us in incredible danger when he kicks the bucket and palin the idiot takes over? you know when you watch mcCain give his speeches at the town hall that he is filled with such hate and negativity that he will put us in harms way and destroy thousands of young men and women as he keeps them in iraq for nuclear weapons that either dont exist or are hidden so well that even they forgot where they put him.

  • Posted By: Tobucks @ 11/01/2008 7:16:25 PM

    Arnold Schwarznegger says McCain is the best candidate, but then I look at Arnold's success to balance has budget in California noting that his deficit is ten (10) Billion dollars. They through the last governor our on his but when his deficit was a heck of a lot less than Arnold. I think Arnold's brain is finally getting flooded with steroids.

    • Posted By: Frankie 14 @ 11/01/2008 7:20:36 PM

      You need to realize that first of all Arnold is basically a liberal who tried when first elected to reign in the demo majority in the state but has had little success. To get a glimpse of what the trouble the U.S. is in for look at the budgets of CA, NY, IL, and the rest of very liberal nanny states in the U.S. They are all out of control.

      • Posted By: macauley10 @ 11/01/2008 7:44:21 PM

        You are right on. Also take a look at the murder rate in the liberal states compared to the conservative states. Here is some fact: Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1

        • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:17:41 AM

          Texas will go Republican, and we have more inmates on death row (and we execute more than anyone else). What does that say for a Republican state?

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 11:12:33 PM

        Look, I hate to be picky, but you mean "rein in," not "reign in." Somebody who professes to know so much about law school would be literate enough not to have made that mistake several times.

  • Posted By: RAGZ68 @ 11/01/2008 7:17:14 PM

    I think it should be a law that everyone has to vote. People fought for the right to do so and now so many claim that is thier right not to. These may be the same people standing outside at rallies holding anti Bush, Obama, or McCain signs. Many will claim that this would be another occasion of big brother controlling us but i disagree. The people who are being elected are the ones who make the decisions that affect all of us so shouldnt we be required to decide who that may be? I dont care if you are a democrat or a republican or any other affiliation, unless you vote you are not entitled to an opinion.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:15:10 AM

      You have missed the point. We have the right and responsibility to vote, but noone has the right to tell us we have to vote. That is what America is all about--making choices for ourselves. That is why it is so important to keep up with what is really going on in this country and no listening to just one view. If all you listen to is right wing conservative radio or tv, then you will get a warped view of what is true. The same would be said for only listening to liberal views. Read, study, research. Then make up your mind. Just listening to the drival of McCain and Palin will lead you to many false conclusions.

  • Posted By: altra1 @ 11/01/2008 7:17:40 PM

    Forget experience. The difference between Obama and Palin? Obama was a constitutional law professor at Harvard. Palin is dumb.

    • Posted By: Frankie 14 @ 11/01/2008 7:24:46 PM

      Palin was a govenor of a state. Obama was not a full fledged law professor but an ad junct professor. He would never have risen to a professorshlp. He did not have the educational back round, degree, or experience to be a faculty member in a tenure track position. He also taught about civil rights law and being a minority member they were happy to have someone teach part-time--kind of like a substitute teacher.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:11:55 AM

        As an adjunct faculty member of a college, I can assure you that we are not like substitute teachers. By the way, Barack Obama has an undergraduate degree from Columbia University in New York (you have heard of it haven't you?) and he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, a position that you do not get by being untrained or stupid. Yes, he had the credentials to be a full-time professor. He taught constituional law--also good experience for someone who would aspire to be President of the United States. Knowing the constitution just might come in handy.

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 11:09:58 PM

        What are your credentials?

      • Posted By: Romero @ 11/01/2008 9:25:30 PM

        Sen. Obama taught "Constitutional Law", not "Civil Right Law". Please get your facts correct.

    • Posted By: macauley10 @ 11/01/2008 7:40:41 PM

      YES, and we all trust lawyers. They are the most honest and ethical bunch around. RIGHT?? Just because you have book smarts and know how to sound good when you talk does it mean you have common sense? Obama has no common sense. He will always tell people what they want to hear and stick to his hidden agenda. You will see if he is elected.

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 11:08:11 PM

        Lawyers are trained in logical thinking, learn to look at information from all perspectives and evaluate various courses of action, based on the scenarios that might evolve from them. They study human nature, and develop an analytical approach to problems. They are patient and tenacious. They can review and assimilate high volumes of written material in a short time. Not bad training for a president.

      • Posted By: simply honest @ 11/01/2008 8:08:23 PM

        Right, Palin took 6 collages to graduate, and McCain finished in bottom of his class, and you talk about Obama??? Get real. Those two sound like idiots (and I am being kind); cannot put two thoughts together to make a coherent thought. She is not smart enough to answer questions like "What papers do you read and what court decisions do you disagree with". Man, if this is the best the GOP has, God help us.

  • Posted By: kathogn @ 11/01/2008 7:21:13 PM

    I have been looking through the comments here and have discovered that all of us are squabbling like kids on a playground. We are educated adults who should be able to look at the issues on the table and leave personal bias out of it. Alas, but for a perfect world... Seriously folks, does anyone really think any major political party would put their reputation on the line by nominating someone who legally can not become president? As far as religious values, all of the major religions in the world believe in the same "golden rule" -Treat others as you want to be treated. It is the one's who twist things to their own benefit who change what a religion from good to not so good. Look at the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem witch trials(and they were based upon fear, and ergot contaminated rye flour.) . The zealots in any situation who base their decisions on fear not fact. That is what is happening here. Ok, no one ever said getting a Black man or a woman elected would be easy. Just about everyone probably figured te consequences of such an attempt would be for the opposing party to play on the ingrained fears of others. Our biases run deep, anyone you denies this is a liar Why don't we forgo the name calling and look at the issues, like we shoud be doing, and then make our decisions? Can it really be done without insulting other people's intelligence, parentage, gender and religious beliefs?

    • Posted By: Boston Tea Party @ 11/01/2008 7:32:17 PM

      Good point. But here is how I see it. Democrats are all for tolerance as long as you agree with them. I personally will be happy when this election is over. It has been the most divided that I have seen our Nation. This election is NOT about color. Let's be honest here. Obama was raised by his white family. This election is about ideology. I personally do not believe in the redistribution of wealth.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:06:46 AM

        If you don't believe in the redistribution of wealth, then none of us should pay taxes. That is what the redistribution of wealth is. Barack is only trying to get the very wealthiest people in the nation to pay their fair share instead of slipping through loopholes and not pay their fair share. When the middle class American is paying 33-35 % in Federal Income Tax (not to mention all the other taxes), then we are paying too much. We need some relief from the top 5% of the billionaires. Most people in this country make under $200,000. In Barack's plan those individuals making under $200,000 would get a cut. Families making under $250,000 would get a cut. Those making more than that would pay about 3% more than they pay now. Those people making more will simply pick up some of the burden and help the over-stressed middle class. You can go on line and read his plan.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 8:45:19 PM

      Good for you. Yes, we should all be looking at what is best for this country and for the ordinary American.

    • Posted By: simply honest @ 11/01/2008 8:02:11 PM

      Well stated. Those who are the most "religious" spew the most hatred. It scares the hell out of me to hear all of this vile thought. No matter who raised Obama, in this country he will always be black, and not 'LIKE US". Race is always an issue,and always will be when a black and white are concerned. We have come so far to have gotten nowhere. Wake up people, the world is watching and we are making fools out of outselves. For a country that is supposed to be the hall of democracy, we have a strange way of showing it.

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 2:02:58 AM

    Im voting for John McCain Because

    I think leaving your sick, dying wife who waited for you while you were MIA for 5 years for for a younger woman shows good moral character

    Because his party the republicans has given us the best economical growth ever over the last 8 years

    Because he believes in wealth distribution so much that he paid plumber joes child support for him when he couldn't afford to.

    Because hes going to live to a ripe old age but if god forbid he kicks the bucket before 76 he has left us a competent substitute. If only she knew her her job title entails

    Because I know i'm his friend, he tells me so more times then I count every speech

    Because the less money he makes millionaires pay, the more money trickles down to me

    Because he mocks celebrities then asks one to speak at one of his speeches, oh my bad that was the only way he could get more then a couple 100 people to show up at one

    Because he cares so much about education that hes promised to spend millions of dollars putting new programs in our schools for retarded kids so his running mate can have a place for hers to go

    Because hes come up with such a great plan for the economy oh wait he doesn't have one or if he does I dont know because he spends all his time talking about his opponets

    Because he wants to give Health insurances compainies a credit for me for 2,500 dollars so i'll only have to pay a extra 200 dollars a month that I dont have anyway instead of 400.( 5,000 is for families)

    Because when he gives wallstreet anothr billion in bonuses next year half of them will take their bonuses and start new bussiness with it and create more jobs

    Finally when he gives big corparations billions and billions of dollars in tax breaks next year they will stop shipping jobs over seas for cheap labor and open more jobs right here just like theyve been doing with their tax breaks for the last 8 years

    Anybody ever notice that all the people who really know how to run the country are republicans on this message board? I wonder why not one of them have one for president yet?

  • Posted By: peaceluvfreedomofexpression @ 11/01/2008 8:33:38 PM

    WOW, I STILL KEEP LOOKING AT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS AND ALL OF YOU PEOPLE ARE AS IGNORANT AS JOHN MCCAIN, SARAH PALIN, GEORGE W. BUSH. SENATOR BARACK OBAMA IS THE MAN FOR THIS JOB. ALL OF YOU PEOPLE DON'T SEE THAT ALL JOHN MCCAIN DOES IS JUST TALK BAD ABOUT SENATOR OBAMA AND NOT ADDRESS HIS ISSUES FOR THE PRESIDENCY??? BUT AS FOR SENATOR OBAMA, HE DOES ADDRESS HIS ISSUES, HIS PLANS BUT JOHN MCCAIN IS SOOO GREEDY TO HAVE POWER HE WILL TALK BAD ABOUT HIS APPONENT, THAT THERE IS NO CLASS BUT ALL OF YOU IGNORANT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S BEYOND YOUR FREAKIN' NOSES. MCCAIN JUST WANTS POWER, SENATOR BARACK OBAMA WANTS TO HELP THE COUNTRY, AND THE PEOPLE FOR THE BETTER. ALL OF YOU PEOPLE WRITTING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT SENATOR BARACK OBAMA ARE JUST LIKE GEORGE BUSH, JOHN MCCAIN, SARAH PALIN, YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF IGNORANTS.

    • Posted By: jp2123 @ 11/01/2008 8:38:45 PM

      I'm sorry but I don't consider myself ignorant. I know the problems with John Mccain and is not that he is ignorant, or is greedy for power. The problem is his campaign helpers. When John Mccain started he didn't have all these advisors a****** that tell him what to say or do. He will speak his mind and show truth. That was the thing that I liked about him from the begining. He will speak to you with truth and you could actually somewhat trust his words, cause in some unexplainable way you know he is being real. However, now with all his advisors he has turned into something that he knows he is not. However, he needs to do it to win. Now, if he wins, Im pretty sure we will be back as he once was before. The only presidential candidate on both parties that I could trust.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 1:59:44 AM

        How can anyone trust a man who would turn into something he is not just to be elected? That's a scary thought.

    • Posted By: kevinmont @ 11/01/2008 8:51:31 PM

      The word "ignorant" cannot be used as a noun. Now who's ignorant?

    • Posted By: Americansforabetterusa @ 11/01/2008 8:45:02 PM

      Only Ignorant people have to make heir point typing in all caps. Try making your point without being an ass.

    • Posted By: klz125 @ 11/01/2008 8:36:58 PM

      learn how to spell opponent

  • Posted By: Boston Tea Party @ 11/01/2008 7:26:28 PM

    Why don't Liberals realize that socialist has failed everywhere it has been tried. But somehow you know better. People wake up before it is too late. The Federal Government is NOT your Daddy. So, get retooled and go find yourself a job. Education is going to be the key. Stop looking at Government to bail you out of anything. Was New Orleans not enough for you to see?

    • Posted By: Melstheone @ 11/01/2008 7:48:19 PM

      And so we should do away with Social Security and Med i care? Those are socialist programs, we have been dancing around socialism for decades. Instead of labeling everything why can't we just do what works? Republicans want to act like the last eight years have never happened, you all brought us Bush, Cheney, and the most corrupt congress in the history of the Untited States. We are in a recession, people are going bankrupt to pay medical bills, our troops come home to VA hospitals that are so poorly funded it affects their care. Why anyone would continue to vote for the party that has brought this great nation to its knees is beyond me.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 1:59:27 AM

        Amen. It is time for a change.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 10:49:36 PM

      By the way, I have a job, and have never taken any kind of handouts. Most of the people I know who support Obama are the same people who support their churches--with tithes and shoeleather, their schools, and community volunteer organizations. They care for aging parents and try to get their kids through college. Most of them have little saved for retirement--you will probably sneer at that, but many of them are teachers and social workers and other occupations that do a lot of good but don't make much money. Maybe you are a good person who just comes across a nasty, but your attitude and predjudices just make me sad for America.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 1:57:30 AM

        Vlamb. Your comments are right on. Keep it up. We need more people in this world who think as you do. This is a good country we live in, but it has been run into the ground under Geroge W and his cronies. We really are due some relief from the Republican party. The irony is that even the Republican is looking for some relief from the Republican party. They know that they have to change or their party is going to be split right down the middle.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 10:43:33 PM

      Get a grip. We aren't talking about socialism here. That is just propaganda from the McCain campaign.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 8:41:55 PM

      I don't want the government to be my daddy, but since they take 33% of my money, we might as well figure out how they can give some of it back. Health care, education, creating jobs--those all sound like pretty good ideas to me. They certainly sound like better ideas than creating a war to make your buddies rich, getting rid of regulations so the oil company and friends can make millions while the middle class American is losing ground daily. Unemployment is at an all-time high, the national debt has risen to astronomical proportions. People are losing their homes because of deregulation. You and I both know that we can't afford to keep this up. Give the Democrats a chance. They made your life better under Clinton. They will make your life better under Obama.

  • Posted By: Nerviousabout09 @ 11/01/2008 8:33:46 PM

    Yiks, I can not believe all of the people who are willing to drink the "KoolAid". Wake up people before it's to late. Socialistic policies have never worked before and they won't for you now. McCain has his flaws, no doubt, but the alternative is down right scarey unless you are in the 40% that do not pay taxes.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 1:57:31 AM

      There you go with your lack of information. Barack did not say he was giving tax cuts to people who do not pay taxes. Go figure. How can you do that? No taxes; no cuts. What do you think. Stop listening to McCain and Palin. They lie.

  • Posted By: Lady9whitepearls @ 11/02/2008 12:17:38 AM

    I disagree with you. The fact that you have a good education does speak for your intelligence. I don't know any dumb people graduating from Harvard or graduating from college for that matter. The fact that you graduated from college says that you have some higher form of intelligence. Even if you had to study hard to get your degree you are smart to some degree. Now if you took 8 years to get a Bachelor's degree, then I would wonder about your intelligence. I agree with you jdctr that being smart does not make you right. It makes you capable of making sound decisions. If Obama wins, he will have advisors for everything that he does. Some of you seem to forget that important fact. Some of the people he has surrounded himself with are Republicans and other veteran Democrats. I don't think those people will steer him wrong.

    • Posted By: QuadEagle @ 11/02/2008 1:57:03 AM

      I know that you Liberals are afraid of Sarah, but she's just the VP candidate. Okay...let me settle this for you...Obama is a smart guy and it's okay that he sends tingles up your leg. I am getting embarassed for you folks trying to justify your candidate by matching his qualifications against Sarah. I know that all this fuss about how Obama is smarter than Sarah bodes well for John McCain, but it's so pathetic that I am starting to feel sorry for you.

    • Posted By: Americansforabetterusa @ 11/02/2008 1:04:04 AM

      That's where your wrong, like everything else he has done in this campaign he just replaces them with someone who agrees with him. Just as with the 3 reporters from the news media who because there papers endorsed McCain they where told there was no room for them on the plane. And Michelle Obama is equally threatening the media telling them they won't have a place at the big event should he win if they do not write good things about her husband. If they dare to ask the hard questions then they will be shunned by the Obama campaign. Plain and simple if you do not play buy his rules then he's taking his ball and going home and telling Michelle that they're being mean again.

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