The Whoppers of 2008—The Sequel

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  • Posted By: mojo234 @ 11/01/2008 7:20:19 PM

    Your bias is showing. For an organization called "FACTCHECK", your article is full of opinion and very one-sided in favor of Obama. It verges on an attack on McCain.

    • Posted By: mary1961 @ 11/01/2008 8:16:11 PM

      FACTCHECK is funded by the Annenberg Foundation. Which also funded Obama and Ayers in Chicago and ACORN.

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 10:59:55 PM

        The president of the Annenburg Foundation is a prominent McCain supporter. It's unlikely she would tolerate bias against his campaign.

  • Posted By: 123jenn45 @ 11/01/2008 7:23:01 PM

    So, all you can say is "yesterday's news'? It still doesn't change the FACTS. Can you imagine what will happen in the White House? It sure won't be White anymore. You won't find one within MILES. Hitler ran his whole campaign on 'change'. It sure wasn't the change people wanted. You are willing to throw away everything just to vote for your stinking party? Who cares whether Democrat or Republican! I'm neither! Just stating the facts! Obama has LOTS to hide. I have a problem with that. McCain isn't hiding anything. Everything asked of him her turns over. We have seen all the donations he has received for any denomination. Obama say's he doesn't have to, even though there are questions of the 1000's of $199 donations he has recieved, that are believed to have come from Saudi Arabia, Iran, Libya, and Indonesia. If he has nothing to hide, why hide behind 'the rules say i don't have to fork it over if it's under $200'. I have a problem with that! Nothing to hide? Why are you hiding?

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 10:56:07 PM

      Jenna--
      Argue like a grown up or go to bed.

    • Posted By: Melstheone @ 11/01/2008 8:02:32 PM

      Listen when you step in poop you wipe it off your shoes, not roll around in it some more, I chose to wipe the poop off my shoes and go Democrat!!

    • Posted By: Maypop @ 11/01/2008 7:37:55 PM

      McCain is hiding anything? You sure?

  • Posted By: LIbrtyBlade @ 11/01/2008 10:17:05 PM

    True: Obama can't get a security clearance but wants to be our Commander in Chief??? Really?! True: Obama believes patriotism is making successful people pay for people who would rather draw welfare, get gov't housing and be here illegally True: Obama wants more government intervention and McCain wants less

    • Posted By: grandmajane @ 11/01/2008 10:55:03 PM

      FALSE! Where are you getting such drivel??? The President of the United States has to have the highest security clearance. Palin should have trouble b/c her husband associated with the terrorists in Alaska who want to secede from the US -- and their leaders have advocated violence. Look that up. Todd has distanced himself -- supposedly -- in recent years b/c it wouldn't look too good, his wife bein' in politics and all. . .

  • Posted By: Boranger76 @ 11/01/2008 10:54:14 PM

    " Factcheck.org is nothing but a dishonest left-wing propaganda machine" but it makes for good entertainment. some lib on here actually thought there was a social security trust fund .. i spite dr pepper all over my screen

  • Posted By: lfavorite @ 11/01/2008 7:23:12 PM

    Special treatment you can beleive in. If Back Husein Obama's aunt was some poor slob working in a garment factory her deportation wouldn't wait until next Wednesday. Pretending his megabillion dollar machine "didn't know" about his muslim dad's sister is not "change you can beleive in".Maybe she'll get some of the "redistribution next wednesday.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 10:54:10 PM

      I have now idea if any of my relatives are in the country illegally. Probably not, but since I usually communicate with the aunties, uncles, and cousins only at Christmastime, how would I know?

  • Posted By: uzafor @ 11/01/2008 10:53:25 PM

    Vote NADER if you are undecided like I am. Neither OBAMA or McCain any idea about CHANGE, but putting more Change in their pockets. NADER for Something New. IT"S NOT JUST OBAMA AND MCCAIN. this is only what the media wants you to think. NADER NADER NADER

  • Posted By: uzafor @ 11/01/2008 10:48:35 PM

    Are we all missing it? It is not just OBAMA N McCain running for Office. I was undecided, but now I know to vote for NADER. Both Obama n McCain are really confused about everthing.

    • Posted By: Sunshine1957 @ 11/01/2008 10:52:20 PM

      WELL, IN FOUR YEARS YOU CAN EAT YOUR WORDS!!!! WHEN OBAMA HAS AFFECTED YOU ENTIRE FAMILY! CAN YOU THINK WITH BRAIN!!!! VOTE!

  • Posted By: Bubbating @ 11/01/2008 10:51:51 PM

    I do not know where you get your information, but you are wrong! Go to: www.onthe issues.org and get the facts! Obama voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security! Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government! Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities"! Extended Welfare and Medicaid to immigrants! Supported granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants! It is all there just go to WWW.ONTHEISSUES.ORG! Get the real facts on all politicians!

  • Posted By: jdctr @ 11/01/2008 10:51:21 PM

    Viveca Novak, you are trying to sell a bunch of Whoppers

  • Posted By: jdctr @ 11/01/2008 9:29:15 PM

    It's hard for people to step out of their comfort zone and see the truth. Even as people read this, they look at someone else while they nod their head and say yeah that's true. Most people didn't bother learning when they were taking history or economics. But then that was probably better for them because teachers or more interested in teaching their own philosophy than facts. Socialist is a nice word. It sounds a little better than communist but they are still the same thing.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 10:50:19 PM

      As a history major and teacher, I can tell you socialist and communist are not the same thing. But I can also tell you that Obama is neither. When I went to college, we had the National Defense Loan, a government loan at 3% interest. If we taught for five years 1/2 the money was paid back. We were given 10 years to repay the money. Does that sound like socialism or communism? I don't think so. That was in 1964. Do you know who was president? Do you know when the National Defense Loan program started? This is the type of thing that Barack Obama is trying to do for today's students. If they want to go to college, he is offering help in return for their time in their community or the military. I don't think that half the people ever listen to anything that is being said by Obama. If they did, they would understand that the man is for the common man. He is attempting to help the middle class become strong again and attempting to putting a stop to all the wealth going to the top. Listen. Read. Do research. Be informed. As a teacher it distresses me to see so many people who really do not know what is going on in this world. The Republicans have controlled this country so long, that you now believe anything they say. The Republicans are not for the common man.

  • Posted By: Squeak11 @ 11/01/2008 9:44:47 PM

    Not to good at math, but it seems like this article has 100-bad things about McCain and 1 or 2 slow softball pitches of things bad about Obama. The media isn???t biased?
    How can anyone with half a brain say that ACORN hasn???t done anything wrong? This whole voting thing has turned crazy. People vote whenever they want, the homeless, poor, and mentally challenged are bussed inform all across the country and steered toward the Democratic ticket. Come on. Are you kidding me? The Democrats use these people over and over again and have done nothing for them yet they continue to vote for the "D". Just look at Cleveland.
    Neither side can get anything done; yet we continue to allow it. The media is mostly to blame because they have the power to hold these people responsible and accountable, but they fail to report the truth. It's all about the money. These people have no souls. Whenever anyone speaks out, they are ridiculed, crushed, and discarded. These people are UNTOUCHABLE!
    Our Constitution has been distorted and our liberties are being taken away more and more every day. This country is self-destructing and the timer has started. It appears this country will have another civil war in the near future. Conservative versus Liberalism, black versus white, rich versus poor? May God help us all quickly, before he is taken away from us as well!

    • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/01/2008 9:48:00 PM

      Factcheck.org was funded 3.5 million by an obama earmark... a requirement for a totalatarian regime, control the so called facts..... Factcheck.org is a Obama website.

      • Posted By: grandmajane @ 11/01/2008 10:49:16 PM

        Wrong. And evidence of paranoid thinking. I've had right wing conservative friends quote "Fact-Check" as fact. So don't attach it to Obama or any group.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 9:51:11 PM

        Are you nuts?

        • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/01/2008 10:01:51 PM

          I can see by your comment, you refuse to google it to find out the facts.... Why are 1% of the democrats to lazy to check the facts, and 99% are to stupid to even know who his running mate is, only voting because he is black or because they want the money they heard about....

          • Posted By: tatemc33 @ 11/01/2008 10:18:31 PM

            That would be "too stupid" you moron.

  • Posted By: kmd540 @ 11/01/2008 4:25:51 PM

    I really can't believe that so many americans are this stupid. Barack HUSSEIN Obama started his campaign in the living room of a terrorist! Don't even give me that crap that they are just acquantences, they have groomed him very nicely. Please wake up before tuesday. Believe me we fo NOT want his kind of change.
    We still live in the best country in the world! Our poorest people have a place to live and food on the table.
    I don't want our american values to change (as the Obama's do) I want my children to be able to grow up, educate thamselves, be successful, make over 250 thousand dollars and not be penalized by the government for their hard work.

    • Posted By: Romero @ 11/01/2008 10:47:42 PM

      What are the odds of your children earning over $250,0000? I know individuals within my immediate family with a college education that make six figures that are not where near $250,000. I befieve that every working man and woman and corporation should pay their fair share of tax for the benefits that are provide in this society. That is it. When one of the most wealthies man in this country says that the rich are not paying their fair, I believe it. As an IRS (retired) employee I know what the wealthy are cable of doing to avoid paying their fair share. Including have laws passed to favor them.

  • Posted By: swenska @ 11/01/2008 9:18:48 PM

    To 123/jenn45, Are you for real. We have only a plurality of one, that's ONE in the Senante. They have been holding the one lead for 21 months, during which time Bush has vetoed everything. And now a little history. The rates being low for mortgages were largely a result of the 9/11 debacle. The deregulation of the banks and Wall Street was exaccerbated under this administration, and now the Secretary of the Treasury, Paulson, an alumni of Goldman Sachs heads up the triumverate of he, his assistant and the "Bailout Zcar" Neel Karkazian, a former Exec. VP of, you guessed it, Goldman Sachs. Hank Paulson went to Bush as asked for total control, no checks or balances, until the Democratic Congress stepped in. They, unfortunately, did not have the muscle needed to get the constituents a fair deal. The banks taking the "bailout" are still giving their CEO's a bonus. Congrats for failure! And the taxpayer gets the shaft. Bush has never touched anything that he hasn't "f--ked up". Leaving Texas in the red over $7 billion, spending their "rainy day fund". That's peanuts compared with what our great grandchildren will inherit. Some legacy!.

    • Posted By: bigfatboy @ 11/01/2008 9:43:16 PM

      Where did you hear all this. In 1994, in Chicago, Senator was one of the main Attorneys bringing a lawsuit against Citibank. Reason was that Citibank was not extending credit to areas that were notoriously bad risks. The case was settled out of court. This gave the community organization groups a strong arm and they began to bully banks to give out these junk notes knowing they would not see them paid back to avoid discrimination charges. When restrictions were loosened on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack, they started giving bad mortgages to people who could not pay them back with ACORN and other groups watching over them to make sure the quotas were filled. After a while the well goes dry, the CEO's could not cover it up and the collapse came. The two former CEO's left with their millions of bonuses and are now in some form or another involved as Obama's financial advisors. Chris Dodd and Obama, who have received the most in campaign contributions were very eager to write that check to the bail outs as well.

      • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/01/2008 10:46:44 PM

        Stay up with the latest. The executives of AIG, etc are ot getting any of their bonuses. Because the Fed is bailing out those financial institutions in trouble with $700 billion, the execs are not to receive their bonuses. It is a stipulation that is a result of the $700 billion bail-out. Personally, these knot-heads should be brought up on charges for compromising our national security. The economy is what makes our nation strong. A lesson the Japanese learned after World War II.

    • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/01/2008 9:35:02 PM

      Congrats, you drank the Kool-aid sold to you by the democrats and the liberial press. they want you to believe that and you do. you are to lazy to check the facts. Fact, NYT reported in 99 that Fannie mae needed regulations or there would be a huge problem down the road. in 2001, the bush admin said the same, in 2004 again, it was warned. Everytime, Fannie mae was protected with any regulations being blocked by the Democrats. Google "fannie Mae hearings" watch the tapes for youself. The democrats want you to be lazy and believe everything they tell you. And you do. They point the finger at wall street. They forget to tell you fannie mae sold the mortgage backed securities to wall street. they forget to tell you, fannie mae said get us more subprime mortgages, we'll sell them to banks and insurance companies as AAA investments. They also don't want you to know that the Community Reinvestment Act was a big cause of this as well. Google CRA Google "94 citibank lawsuit" you'll find they were charged with racisium under the CRA, and force to give out subprime loans... After you look up the case file, pay attention to the attorney's. you will find that it was brought in by an attorney named.... Barrack H Obama..... No wonder he didn't help do anything about the bailout.... to many reporters were there, and he may have been questioned about his past he wants to hide. God forbid you would vote for someone based on there past.
      your are a sorry excuse for a democrat, spewing what you hear on the liberial media like a tape recorder, to lazy to check the fact about what you spew...

    • Posted By: doneresearch @ 11/01/2008 9:30:14 PM

      You call the terrorist attack on Sept 11, 2001 a "debacle"?!!!!! And actually blame that for the mortgage failure???? Get your head out of your.. never mind. This has to be the worst of all the unpatriotic drivel I have ever seen. No wonder you'd vote for a guy who would sit down with these terrorists.. who feels they would relate to him because he was familiar with the Muslim religion.. who sees nothing wrong with working with other terrorists because it would advance his political ambitions.. who, like them, wants to pull our troops out of Iraq and makes public comments about the US troops air-raiding Afghanistan villages and killing civilians. I'm guessing you don't live anywhere near the NYC Towers, DC Pentagon, or Shanksville, PA. Maybe you don't know personally any first responders - cops, firefighters, ems. I just can't believe you.. or your man Obama.

  • Posted By: Dairus @ 11/01/2008 10:35:57 PM

    McCain has experience as a leader. McCain has actually worked for a living. His time in the military has proven he is a man of character and a leader of men.

    Barack has never had a real job outside of political office.

    7 years ago, Barack was organizing Ping Pong Tournaments.

    That is the kind of leadership we need!!!

    • Posted By: mikalcee @ 11/01/2008 10:46:02 PM

      Dairus please! McCain can't even lead his own campaign in the right direction. Sya alot about the man.

  • Posted By: shieldwolf10 @ 11/01/2008 10:45:42 PM

    This article would have been better if FactCheck had NOT checked their brains at the door! I admit that I don't know about every issue so I look at one issue that I have examined and see what the writer has to say. When I read Viveca explain Obama's true meaning about his talk with Joe and leaves out the heart of the issue in order to make it sound as if McCain is wrong in his analysis then I know I can't trust her analysis about any other issue! The statement that Obama was "simply talking about making the nation's progressive tax system a bit more progressive by cutting taxes for most while raising them on top earners" was not true. The heart of the matter is that the money taken from the wealthy in higher taxes will then be given to people who have not even paid any taxes (this is not a tax cut for the people getting the money)! This is simply taking extra money from those who have earned it and giving it to others who have not earned it. This IS NOT a new sort of progressive taxation but IS redistribution of wealth! Include ALL the facts next time FACTCHECK!

  • Posted By: Lille @ 11/01/2008 10:44:25 PM

    We can't see his birth certificate.
    We can't see his college application or grades.
    We can't see his medical records.
    We can't identify where a large portion of his contributions come from.
    I clearly see Obama only wants us to see what he choses us to see.....think before you vote

  • Posted By: jdctr @ 11/01/2008 10:43:07 PM

    I hear people use the word democracy. Did you fail history. Your right though. A democracy will not work, people left to their own devices are to greedy, stupid and etc. That's why our forfathers formed a democratic R E P U B L I C. The gridlock that we always complain about is there by design. That's why if Obama gets elected watch out, our whole federal government system will be from politicalone party. Now that's something to be afraid of

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/01/2008 10:41:36 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.

  • Posted By: macauley10 @ 11/01/2008 10:30:40 PM

    So Osama will get us out of Iraq? Will he also get us out of Korea, Okinawa, Japan, and Germany? How many people even know we have military in those countries or even care. The media does not talk about this but the USA is one of the few countries that after a war does not take over the country but usually keeps some bases open in the country to maintain a presence after a war. We dont take them over!!

    • Posted By: mikalcee @ 11/01/2008 10:40:24 PM

      macauley10 why do we need to maintain bases in the countries you sighted. We must have some kind of control with our military presence. Take a look.

  • Posted By: mike1952 @ 11/01/2008 10:19:38 PM

    this forum has enlightened me on why democracy will fail. the drivle i have read here is horse manure. does anyone on the right think for themselves? sounds like you have over dosed on limbaugh, hannity, and the rest of the right wing mechants of hate.

    • Posted By: KnowBeforeVoting @ 11/01/2008 10:39:52 PM

      So If I agree with the right, I must not be thinking correctly? I have yet to met someone who supports Obama and actually knows what he wants to change. The only thing Obama is changing is what he supports. He says he wants to pull us out of Iraq but asked how soon he replies as soon as Iraq is ready that is the same thing Bush says, yet Obama is about change. Lets vote for someone that has the same beliefs as us. If you believe to in what Obama is for vote for him. But make sure you actually know what he stands for. And with such a short time in Office Nobody can truthfull say that they know what Obama will do. I will vote for the person who I agree with most of the time and I can see their voting record.

    • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/01/2008 10:30:44 PM

      Nice Mike, your comment only Magnifies the issue. You refuse to look up the fact for yourself. every democrat in here spews the media agenda, and never once has a fact to back it up with other than there liberial media source, which is usually an unidentified source. Republicans do a little more than watch the news, they also verify the news to find out if it is fact or not. you can't list a fact or a source and you fail to use your computer to check facts. you can sit there hoping that for once Obama will keep a campaign promise, and give you the money. Hope you can keep your faith, and since your hopes depend on faith, shouldn't you check the records of the person you want to put your faith in?

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