The Whoppers of 2008—The Sequel

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  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/03/2008 3:10:44 PM

    McCain has not only appeared on Liddy???s radio show but used his home as the site of a 1998 fundraiser. Throughout the years, McCain has received $5,000 in contributions from Liddy, including $1,000 this year alone (With Friends Like These, Chicago Tribune, May 2008).
    While Barack Obama has ties to Rev. Wright, John McCain also has ties with controversial pastors, namely Pastor John Hagee and Parsley. Parsley has called for his audience to destroy Islam saying that it is the ???greatest religious enemy to our civilization.??? Hagee called for an unrelenting war against the Catholic Church, calling it ???The Great Whore??? and a ???false cult system.??? McCain sought out the endorsement of both pastors, but has since rejected them due to their controversial remarks.

    Within his own campaign, McCain has made some interesting choices as to who to associate himself with. There is Freddie Mac lobbyist, Mark Buse who is now McCain???s Chief of Staff; Rick Davis, McCain???s campaign manager who was the president of an advocacy group that defended Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from stricter regulation requirements; Charlie Black, McCain???s top political advisor who said in June that a terrorist attack in the US would be a big advantage for McCain. Black also worked as lobbyist for Occidental Petroleum, a group that gained infamy in 1998 when its security company was involved with the killing of 17 Columbian civilians
    But perhaps the most overlooked aspect of John McCain is his association with the International Republican Institute (IRI). According to the IRI???s website, it is a group that claims to ???advance freedom worldwide by developing political parties, civic institutions, open elections, good governance and the rule of law???.

    However, by many they are viewed as a group that advances a neo-conservative foreign policy agenda around the world, and has been involved in the overthrow of democratically elected leaders in countries such as Haiti in 2004, Venezuela in 2002, and Georgia in 2003.

    McCain is currently the acting chairman of the IRI and has been since 1993. The cabinet of the IRI has notable figures, including Paul Bremer, who served as the Ambassador of Iraq in 2003, when he disbanded the Iraqi army by sacking 400,000 Iraqi soldiers

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/03/2008 3:04:59 PM

    Lets talk more about McCains associations One such association is McCain???s ties with G. Gordon Liddy, one of the two masterminds behind the 1972 Watergate scandal. McCain, who has embraced Liddy over the years, appeared on his radio show last November greeting Liddy as ???an old friend.??? McCain said that he was proud of Liddy saying, ???congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.??? While those exact principles and philosophies may be unclear, his actions landed him 4 ½ years in prison for his involvement in Watergate.

  • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/03/2008 1:05:07 PM


    Your smear attacks and libel have already been refried, cooked and hashed over and thrown out.

    Colin Powell said last week that the ties to Obama, which republicans are trying to make to Ayers, are
    "very, very thin" and he did not approve of the McCain campaign dishonorable tactics.

    Ayers was a member of some charity boards for education reform at the University of Illinois in the 1990's.
    Obama, along with Lawyers, Judges, Grad students, and other professors and faculty were also on some of them ......in the 1990's.

    Ayers was voted "Chicago Citizen of the Year" in 1997 and you guys are way, way out of date. So put the whole university, staff, students and passers-by on trial for breathing the same air.
    Ayers problems happened when Obama was eight years old, when children are playing hopskotch.

    Less discussed, is the fact that McCain voted for deregulation 21 times this year already,
    and has voted for deregulation his entire career in the senate,
    that he plans to give $4 billion tax cut to Big Oil, when ExxonMobil made the most corporate profits in United States history; McCain has his own oil shares;
    McCain voted AGAINST the "Violence against Women" act, ( which was authored by Joe Biden),
    McCain voted AGAINST the "Equal Pay Act",
    McCain was pro-choice prior to 2004;

    McCain chose a VP with ties to a secessionist party, the "Alaska Independence Party", for which she
    has given speeches in person and recorded speeches, this year. Her husband was a registered member for seven years. Vogler, its founder, was a raging anti-flag, anti-American.
    This would explain why the VP is constantly harping on how "Pro-American" she is in her rallies, and accusing others of NOT being for their country. We get it.

    And McCain calls his fellow -senator colleagues "te....ists",
    in smears and robocalls and mailings all around this country.
    Way to make a national security issue.

    But the McDuo does not care. And you cannot make them care.



  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 10:24:49 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.

    • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 10:54:55 PM

      Your not kidding anybody. The only things that you'll belevie are things you read that confirm your opinion. As long as it confirms your opinion it must be a fact right? If it doesn't confirm your opinion it can't possibly be true Your almost as much a joe as McCain except iFOR THE FACT that McCain lies more. By the way its a fact that John McCain donated 400,000 to Mr. Ayers to fund his agenda so take a monment out of your worthless life and your distored views and look that up.

      • Posted By: Tat2Gypsy @ 11/03/2008 10:33:46 AM

        Kinda funny, you say it's a 'fact' McCain donated 400K, but at the same time, offer no proof to back that claim up. While on the other hand, I post the direct links to all the proof any one with any sense needs. That is, anyone who does not have Barack 'The Socialist" Obama stuck where the sun don't shine. Must be kinda crowded up there; with both Obama and your own head stuck up your a*s.

    • Posted By: kevinmont @ 11/02/2008 10:59:28 PM

      True. It's not the man, it's the associations. Is William Ayers going to be secretarey of Homeland Security? Jeremiah Wright ambassador to Israel? I think it's the young people who don't understand. They have no perspective on history. If you're over 35, you can't possibly want Obama for President.

      I'm in Illinois. I just offered my 19-yo daughter, $5 to vote for McCain. She declined. I told her she's grounded until Wednesday. No effect.

      Kennedy was accused of using his father's money to buy votes, highly illegal. When asked about it in a news conference, he replied to the reporter:

      "I got a telegram from my father the other day. He said, "Jack, don't buy any more votes than you have to. I'll be damned if I'll pay for a landslide."

  • Posted By: AllenWH @ 11/02/2008 12:00:27 AM

    Two thoughts.

    First, politics. I have been a McCain supporter for a long time. We have a lot in common. We are both old. We have both served our country for most of our adult lives. I was going to vote for him. Then, he selected
    Sarah Palin. Yes, she is Governor of Alaska. Yes, she has more executive experience than Senator Obama. But I cannot abide her fundamentalist, anti-science beliefs. So when I voted early last week, I voted against McCain-Palin. For the 5th consecutive presidential election, I voted against someone, instead of for someone. That's kind of sad. But whatever the outcome of the election, whoever is elected will be my President . I am not one of those who would disavow the result, announce plans to emigrate. This is my country. It will survive, and I will be here to do the best I can with what I've got, where I am, to see that it does.

    Second thought. Blogs may be considered a great forum, where anyone and everyone gets equal time. In my view blogs are also a great revealer. It reveals to me that there are a whole lot of folks out there in cpace who have never heard the advice, "Better to keep silent and be thought a fool, than speak up and remove all doubt." On both sides (actually, all sides) of the argument, there are too many posts in which description degenerates to name-calling, in which opinion is stated as fact, and in which there is a frightening level of enthusiastic ignorance and intolerance.

    • Posted By: QuadEagle @ 11/02/2008 1:35:14 AM

      I like your comments. They are well thought, organized and logical...except for the fact that you changed your vote because of the views of the VP. You should have asked someone about who it is who sets the agenda and the policy for the administration. You would have found that it is the president that does this and not the VP. Maybe it is better to keep silent!

      • Posted By: AllenWH @ 11/03/2008 2:32:15 AM

        I voted against the ticket. I can't support part of it, and pretend the rest isn't there. In addition, but his selection, I think Senator McCain sold out. I'm not sure to whom, but I'd bet Governor wasn't his first choice. He picked her, I suspect against his better judgment, to appeal to the "party base." That base does not include me.

        When Senator Obama is elected, I'm not going to celebrate, but the Democratic ticket seems to me the lesser evil. From another perspective, I don't like describing as "evil" anything associated with a process which results in the peaceful transfer of power of a great nation. We, and a few other countries set an example the rest of the world should envy. I'd rather live in a country where my fellow citizens decide who leads us, rather than is one of those places, of which there are too many, where the transfer of power is controlled by an entrenched elite, or by an uncontrolled succession of bloody coups d'etat.

      • Posted By: chameleon @ 11/02/2008 1:21:47 AM

        If McCain dies in office, we have a beauty queen who will then be president. Definately Scary!

  • Posted By: calipauthy @ 11/01/2008 9:09:06 PM

    if OBAMA is such an open book, why won't he give an interview to a non bias reporter, or even let a non bias citizen. Is he afraid he may answer the question wrong? Or is he just practicing dictatorship practices like in Iran, Cuba where his hero's are at?

    • Posted By: rchristen @ 11/01/2008 9:15:13 PM

      You're right on the target. He's avoiding anything that will expose his real beliefs. He's a liar and not worthy of becoming the Leader of the USA.

      • Posted By: bigeee @ 11/03/2008 12:38:14 AM

        oh yeah, because we all know that presidents of the U.S.A. have always been so honest. LMAO. By the way the president isn't the leader of the country, he heads the executive branch, and is commander and chief of the armed forces, but last time i read the constitution, the people of the US are the leaders, he is just a rep.

      • Posted By: rockin_out_on_the_bcrich @ 11/02/2008 11:00:25 AM

        Obama has lied to the GLBT community nationwide by what he did in my State (SC), he brought in Donnie McClurklin, an ex-gay who was healed by Jeebus, and now a big opponent to our quest for equal rights...I am not trying to instigate and argument here on this issue....all I am trying to say is if he's lied to us (GLBT), what makes you think he hasn't lied about anything else, how can you say you support something and endorse people who are against it? Plus all this crap that Sarah Palin hasn't had the experience as Obama.....the experience she's gotten is in the Executive (decision making) branch of her state, it doesn't Matter if the state population is the size of chicago, she has experience making decisions, unlike the democratic ticket......the Republicans i disagree with them on cultural ideals, but if they do anything while they are in office it can always be undone...that is the Beauty of America

      • Posted By: rockin_out_on_the_bcrich @ 11/02/2008 10:48:00 AM

        As a 20 year old gay citizen of South Carolina, I will not be voting for Obama because he has lied, especially to the gay community. He claims we should be equals, but on his tour of SC he brings Donnie McClurklin (hopefully i spelled it right) an ex-gay who was healed through God, and made him Master of Ceremonies, which means he was the main speaker. needless to say Donnie enjoyed bashing the gay community. but to my point......Obamas actions NEVER match his words. If he would lie to a group of people struggling to gain acceptance, why wouldn't he lie to anyone else. and for those of you that are gonna read this you may think this is my biggest concern you're wrong, if he had come out and said his true beliefs on the subject and several others he would get my vote buti know John McCain is more honest, though a liar at times. and Sarah Palin is a creationist and conservative Christian...at leasst i know where they stand on most issues!

      • Posted By: catty woman @ 11/01/2008 10:23:10 PM

        i don't think he's a liar, hes just concentrating on what he sees americans need. after all if hillary clinton had spoken the same words as barack obama would she be a liar or would the american people look to her for guidance in being president for american people.

      • Posted By: marylu64 @ 11/01/2008 10:19:40 PM

        weel, didn't you see the interview with Oreillyand He is from fox, where you can clearly see that they are 100% republicans helloooo, what more news and it was a very good interview.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/02/2008 12:52:06 AM

      I think he's been a little busy. Why does he need to talk to reporters. He's getting plenty of publicity.

  • Posted By: rchristen @ 11/01/2008 9:08:38 PM

    It's amazing to me how Obama has blasted his way into this country's population. Of course the blacks adore him and all the white women swoon over him because of the endownment thing. I for one think that everybody should wake up and realize that Obama has NO experience for the job and the leaders of other countries will chew him up and spit him out, meaning the USA. I also firmly believe this so qualified person will lead to a nuclear war which will wipe mankind. The man said a few days ago that the resession will be deeper in the future. What that tell's me is that he's back peddling. If he wins and the economy gets worse he'll say he warned us. If it get's better he'll say it's because of his leadership. This self centered raghead will have both the senate and the congress locked up. There will not be any checks and balances anymore especially with the bug eyed Nancy Pelosi and others. What Obama Moma says will be God, which he thinks he is. Am I a racist, no, not at all. I shared a room for two years with a black man in college and it was great. Do I love the USA? Of course I do and that's why I'm saying what I am. Where's all his money coming from?? I think I know and anybody with half a brain should know too. Does McCain have all the answers, I don't think so, but ya know what, he's the less of the two evils. Mark my words people, if Obama is elected president the world as we know it now will cease to exist. I'm done PERIOD!

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 11:26:40 PM

      I don't for a moment believe that the leaders from other countries will eat him up and spit him out. I do believe, on the other hand, if the old white dude gets elected and dies--the bimbo from Alaska will have us in a world of hurt. She can't answer questions from a news person let alone from a major world figure. By the way, this is from an old white woman.

      • Posted By: kcundiff @ 11/03/2008 12:18:11 AM

        DAMN,,, Your bitter........

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/01/2008 11:36:55 PM

    to the stupid person who tried to be witty and repost a anology that someone else has posted on a bunch of boards I am going to explain the stupidity of it to the other thinking democrats.
    heres the repost
    Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed--just imagine the coincidence.

    When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

    I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

    THIS IS STUPID BECAUSE 1.) SERVERS ALREALDY GIVE AWAY A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR TIPS TO THEIR BUSSERS AND FOOD RUNNERS 2) YOUR TAKING THE WHOLE TIP. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A CORRECT ANALOGY YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AWAY ONLY A NICKLE OF THE TEN DOLLARS. YOUR NOT MAKING SENSE. YOUR NOT BEING WITTY AND TEN BUCKS IS A CRAPPY TIP BY THE WAY.

    • Posted By: RossLiberty @ 11/02/2008 12:02:33 AM

      Time out. . .My current tax rate is around 40% with State, Fed and SSI. And, assuming I stay in business, I will be paying even more under Obama. Of course if Obama is elected I may well choose to throw in the towel instead of bearing the brunt of his new tax plan to punish the employers, throwing about 30+ employees out of work.

      • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 12:32:50 AM

        There you go--listening to the lies told by the Republicans. Wake up. Barack is on your side.

        • Posted By: kcundiff @ 11/03/2008 12:02:32 AM

          Get serious, your obsession with Obama is annoying. Under his tax plan , He'll bankrupt this country in a year. YOU need to get your facts straight. What are you going to do when this election is over, you won't know what to do with yourself.

    • Posted By: esprit3 @ 11/02/2008 2:45:50 AM

      OMGosh, why is $10 a crappy tip? Depending on your bill, of course, but I seldom tip more than 15%. Why should I give someone more than five or six dollars for a total of 10 minutes service for me, when my income is less than $800 a month? :( Restaurant servers do work Very hard, but (especially if they're in a good restaurant) they call pull down a lot of cash in tips. My niece and nephew each got at least $100 a night in tips when they were servers.... I can't afford to tip more than 15%. I know it's off topic, but I was shocked at the comment.

  • Posted By: bigfatboy @ 11/01/2008 9:15:39 PM

    Earlier today, I was reading some of these posts. I saw a lot of ridicule for Joe the plumber. All of his dirty history was being discussed. Was it not that long ago that everybody was so worried about having their privacy removed by the spy program that was listening for terrorist conversations, Where is that same kind of disgust for Joe the plumbers privacy being illegally displayed publicly. Senator Obama who, I might remind you, is the candidate and Joe the plumber is not. He asked one question and Senator Obama answered him. It seems to me that the only one who should even be questioned here is the candidate because he is the one running for office and Joe the plumber is not. The right to privacy is why Joe the plumber has been used by the McCain camp. This whole incident makes me believe that under Obama, our privacy will become null and void because you all seem to think it is okay in this instance. By the way, Obama's answer that he wants to redistribute the wealth leads to us all being poor except those who are in power.

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 11:16:27 PM

      Poor ole Joe the plumber. This man put himself out there in the public eye. When you do that, your privacy ends. Redistribution of the wealth just means a graduated income tax so that the wealthy get to pay their share. Read; listen. Research. Know your facts.

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/01/2008 10:56:58 PM


    THE MORE MONEY SOMEONE MAKES THE LESS THEY GET TAXED. THE MIDDLE CLASS GET TAXED ALMOST 30 PERCENT WHILE SOMEONE MAKING OVER 4 MILLION GETS TAXED ONLY 15%

    Vote Obama

    Vote to stop welfare for the rich!
    Vote to stop socialism for the rich!

    • Posted By: RoofersWife @ 11/01/2008 11:09:29 PM

      iF YOU DO NOT PAY INCOME TAXES, HOW CAN YOU GET A YAX CUT? YOU DON'T . YOU GET A WELFARE CHECK PAID BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT EVERY DAY WORKING OUR BUTTS OFF

      • Posted By: beacheshon @ 11/01/2008 11:32:04 PM

        vote to stop welfare for the drug seeking, lazy, and the i am owed something because i'm addited to drugs, booze or whatever!! obama fans need to work. work hard. get off welfare. pay what is owed. vote mccain/palin

        • Posted By: cundiff1 @ 11/02/2008 12:11:38 AM

          I agree. How dare Obama think he can take what good , hard working people work for all their lives . These lazy, I'm owed everthing pigs should be paying back what they have taken from the hard workers. Let "God Obama" take care of them with his paycheck.

          • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/02/2008 2:48:14 AM

            Which pigs are you referring to? Those who have billionaire written on their foreheads. Those are the ones Obama is trying to get to pay their fair share. Check your facts before spouting off.

            • Posted By: kcundiff @ 11/02/2008 11:25:03 PM

              EEdieV did you read what I had to say? I was responding to what beacheshon was saying. The "pigs" I was referring to are the lazy, no counts that sit around and do nothing but wait for others to do for them. Obama wants the "middle class" to work their butts off so he can take from them and give it to those pigs. I, for one, fall in that so-called "middle class" catagory he refers to. Believe me, I'm not working my butt off just to let Obama take it. I work, Iearn, I pay my fair share of taxes. Obama should worry about getting those people up off their sofas, get jobs and start taking care of themselves. Oh yeah, and start paying their fair share, too. SO, YOU LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU START SPOUTING OFF..... I vote McCain- Palin

            • Posted By: kcundiff @ 11/02/2008 10:58:46 PM

              EdieV, did you read what i said in my comment? I was replying to what beacheshon had to say. The "pigs" i referred to are people who do nothing but sit on their asses and wait for others to do for them. Obama wants to take from "middle class" folks and give it to these jackasses. I fall in this so-called "middle class"and I for one am not going to work my ass off just so HE can give it to them. I work, I earn,I pay my taxes, The rest is MINE. YOU LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU SPOUT OFF...... I vote McCain-Palin

        • Posted By: cundiff1 @ 11/02/2008 12:07:07 AM

          I agree. How dare Obama think he can take what good , hard working people work for all their lives . These lazy, I'm owed everthing pigs should be paying back what they have taken from the hard workers. Let "God Obama" take care of them with his paycheck.

    • Posted By: QuadEagle @ 11/02/2008 12:17:43 AM

      That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. I sure would hate to be you. I couldn't live with myself if the only thing had a passion for was to bitch about how much of someone elses money I'm not able to get for myself.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/02/2008 10:55:56 PM

    BREAKING NEWS ALERT....

    Obama taped conversation with San Francisco Chronicle states his policies ???will bankrupt coal mining operations that produce gas emissions in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and North Carolina
    which it will cause energy prices to skyrocket....." .....more info nobody knew until now about what Obama wants to do!!

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 10:45:12 PM

    Why is it republicans can not stop displaying their ignorance. All Rush Limbaugh does is mock others, Sean Hannity insults others, Bill O Reilly degrades others. No wonder all McCains adds are negative. theirs only one intelligent way to rise above this kind of stupid.hyperbolic Right-Wing rudeness and ignorance.
    And that happens whenever a demacrat gets elected. I sincerely hope that McCain not only doesn't get elected but that he loses by a landslide.

  • Posted By: Tat2Gypsy @ 11/02/2008 9:37:41 PM

    I am so sick and tired of hearing FACTCHECK.org defend Obama. FACTCHECK bottom line, is full of BullCrap. Not to mention is in Obama's back pocket, right next to his wallet. But don't take MY word for it. LOOK AT THE REAL FACTS.

    There reasons behind FactCheck's position of supporting Barack Obama.

    FactCheck.org's primary funding source, is the Annenberg Foundation.
    http://www.factcheck.org/about/ They say so right on their own website.

    Now take a moment go to the Annenberg Foundation's own website at http://www.annenbergfoundation.org/news/news_show.htm?doc_id=702786
    and you will find the following paragraph:
    Founding members of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge Board were: Susan Crown, vice president, Henry Crown Company; Patricia Graham, president, The Spencer Foundation, and former dean, Harvard Graduate School of Education; Stanley Ikenberry, president-emeritus, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign; Handy Lindsey, executive director, Field Foundation; Barack Obama; Arnold Weber, former president, Northwestern University, and president, Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago; and Wanda White, executive director, Community Workshop on Economic Development.

    Yes, Barack Obama is listed on the website as one of the founding members of the Annenberg Foundation.


    FactCheck's primary funding source IS the Annenberg Foundation, meaning Barack "Socialist"Obama.

    Take the time to actually LOOK at all the dots, and you'll see the dots are all connected, line by line, and in the middle of those dots, you will find all the biggest dot that wants to destroy the Constitution, you will find Senator Barack Hussein Obama.

    FactCheck.org is about as even and fair in their so-called reporting of 'facts' about Obama it doesn't even pass the stink test. FactCheck.org is nothing more than another source of BULLCRAP lies and misinformation, period.
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    • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/02/2008 10:22:14 PM

      FactCheck seems fair to me. If you had spent this weekend on FactCheck, well, maybe you would have learned something. Instead of writing b#$%^&*&t, maybe you should have spent some time reading some of the posts. Communication is both reading, writing and thinking.

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 8:56:47 PM

    Comment: Im voting for John McCain Because

    I think leaving your sick, dying wife who waited for you while you were MIA for 5 years for for a younger woman shows good moral character

    Because his party the republicans has given us the best economical growth ever over the last 8 years

    Because he believes in wealth distribution so much that he paid plumber joes child support for him when he couldn't afford to.

    Because hes going to live to a ripe old age but if god forbid he kicks the bucket before 76 he has left us a competent substitute. If only she knew her her job title entails

    Because I know i'm his friend, he tells me so more times then I count every speech

    Because the less money he makes millionaires pay, the more money trickles down to me

    Because he mocks celebrities then asks one to speak at one of his speeches, oh my bad that was the only way he could get more then a couple 100 people to show up at one

    Because he cares so much about education that hes promised to spend millions of dollars putting new programs in our schools for retarded kids so his running mate can have a place for hers to go

    Because hes come up with such a great plan for the economy oh wait he doesn't have one or if he does I dont know because he spends all his time talking about his opponets

    Because he wants to give Health insurances compainies a credit for me for 2,500 dollars so i'll only have to pay a extra 200 dollars a month that I dont have anyway instead of 400.( 5,000 is for families)

    Because when he gives wallstreet anothr billion in bonuses next year half of them will take their bonuses and start new bussiness with it and create more jobs

    Finally when he gives big corparations billions and billions of dollars in tax breaks next year they will stop shipping jobs over seas for cheap labor and open more jobs right here just like theyve been doing with their tax breaks for the last 8 years

    Anybody ever notice that all the people who really know how to run the country are republicans on this message board? I wonder why not one of them have one for president yet?

    AND YES MCCAIN IS A LIAR. ARE YOU PEOPLE DEATH. EVERY WORD OUT OF HIS MOTH IS A LIE. OH WAIT MOST REPUBLICANS HAVE SELECTIVE HEARING. JUST LIE 13 YEAR OLDS THEY ONLY HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TOO.

  • Posted By: rgpizza2008 @ 11/02/2008 8:52:14 PM

    A lot of republicans are voting for McCain only because hes a republican. They cant even tell you McCains plan for the country because they don't even know what it is. Like Mccain all they can do is try to smear his opponent. Trying to spread lies and run a negative campain is alll they know how to do. Notica Obama supports simply discuss whats good for themselves and the country instead of soley discussing lies about their opponent. The right wings on here are full of ignorance and spend all their time trying to convince the people who dont share their views to switch their intelligent thoughts to their own republican ignorance. If you want to change another persons opinion you should do so by talking about your opponents ideas and backing it up with facts why their canidates ideas would be good for the country. Trying to change other peoples views by bashing their beliefs is plain stupidity. A lot of the republicans on here are trying to use their perverse ideas of psychology to alter liberals opionion when in reality right wings have never seemed ledd intelligent. Oh great I better watch out, ie gotten so ticked off i'm beginning to sound like one. McCain talks nothing of his ideas or plans of how to fix out economy, he talks only of how bad his opponents iis, and attcking the ideas and plans that he says are his opponents but are nothing but twisted words and qauter truths twisted in a way to try to make his opponent look bad. Thankfully most of america isn't stupid enough to listen. How McCain fought for the country and the five years of life he lost in a pow camp was a courages and honerable thing. McCain once said he would not take the low road to the highest office. Whoever McCain was is not who he is now. The McCain who gives sppeeches is a greedy, cowardly man with no dignity, no plans and speaks nothing but lies, half truths and false hoods. Doing a honerable deed once upon a time means he did just that, a honerable deed. It does not forever make him a honerable man. How anyone could vote for or want a man who behaves the way he behaves in his speeches to represent our country is beyond me. Thanks goodness its beyond most of americans as well. The way the McCain supporters act on here speaks for its self. McCains greatest ememy in the end willl be not Obama but himself. He will defeat himself. .Hes tryingmto win this battle by destroying his opponent but hes only destroying himself. He once had some dignity. Its heartbreaking and sad to watch McCain at his speeches.Its sad to think their are people in this who are like him.

    Vote Obama

    Right wings its not to late to find whatever dignity you may have left even if McCain has none. You know in your heart you want to vote obama. Even through McCain wont be elected you dont need to waste your vote for someone who will would of only destroyed our great country.

    Thank goodness for Obama. A real politician who we can all say with dignity and pride that he is out president!

  • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/02/2008 7:45:43 PM

    I've watched this, studied this, disected this and researched this for months now. On October 25th 2008, in early voting. I voted for Barack Obama and Joseph Biden. The Republicans in the current administration are void. The Republicans that are currently in office are liars, cheats, con-men and are lacking in any morals, what-so-ever. The Republicans in office are manipulative, deceitful, hateful if opposed. The Republicans in office are close-minded, war-mongers, war profiteers and definitely do not believe in the American people except for their own benefit. Militarily we are the ONLY super-power in the world. The United States with the current administration has the rest of the world scared s%#t-less, including those that may be our allies. If we keep pushing buttons, the World Trade Center will not compare with what comes out of the corner. Read the Book of Revelations (King James). We owe China trillions, and just how much do we owe to other foreign nations? Our economy is what makes us strong, globally. Right now, we are a joke to the rest of the world. Our military forces and resources have been stretched to nearly the breaking point. Needing "CHANGE", yes we do.

  • Posted By: abe4600 @ 11/02/2008 7:30:21 PM

    The only way we can judge the two candidates is to look back the their campaign in the last two years.

    1) Who run the most disiplined and well orgnized campaign?

    2) Who handled the economic crisies whith steady and careful approach?

    3) Last but not least, look into how they VP pick and their decision behigned their pick.

    Irrespective of your party, you should look beyond race or age and pick a candidate based on thier intelligence and judgement.

  • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/02/2008 6:05:50 PM

    All four candidates, in a nutshell. I honestly don't believe I have left anything out. Well, except for the personnal attacks from both sides during this campaign. Tuesday is it. I've already cast my vote on October 25th in early voting. This past weekend has been fun for me. This country and it's future is now up to you. Remember this, the state that our country is in right now will not be changed in four years, eight years and maybe not in our lifetime. Certainly, maybe not in mine.

    • Posted By: Lorianne @ 11/02/2008 6:22:59 PM

      Thank you for the TRUTH!! I vote for MCCAIN and PALIN!

  • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/02/2008 5:55:03 PM

    McCain has addressed concerns about his age and past health concerns, stating in 2005 that his health was "excellent".[220] He has been treated for a type of skin cancer called melanoma, and an operation in 2000 for that condition left a noticeable mark on the left side of his face.[221] McCain's prognosis appears favorable, according to independent experts, especially because he has already survived without a recurrence for more than seven years.[221] In May 2008, McCain's campaign briefly let the press review his medical records, and he was described as appearing cancer-free, having a strong heart and in general good health.[222]

    Upon clinching enough delegates for the nomination, McCain's focus shifted toward the general election, while Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton fought a prolonged battle for the Democratic nomination.[223] McCain introduced various policy proposals, and sought to improve his fundraising.[224][225] Cindy McCain, who accounts for most of the couple's wealth with an estimated net worth of $100 million,[67] made part of her tax returns public in May.[226] After facing criticism about lobbyists on staff, the McCain campaign issued new rules in May 2008 to avoid conflicts of interest, causing five top aides to leave.[227][228]

    • Posted By: Lorianne @ 11/02/2008 6:04:50 PM

      Thank you for the TRUTH!!! I vote YES for MCCAIN and PALIN!

  • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/02/2008 5:57:49 PM

    In his own estimation, the Arizona senator is straightforward and direct, but impatient.[271] Other traits include a penchant for lucky charms,[272] a fondness for hiking,[273] and a sense of humor that has sometimes backfired spectacularly, as when he made a joke in 1998 about the Clintons widely deemed not fit to print in newspapers: "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? ??? Because Janet Reno is her father."[274][275] McCain subsequently apologized profusely,[276] and the Clinton White House accepted his apology.[277] McCain has not shied away from addressing his shortcomings, and apologizing for them.[278][279] He is known for sometimes being prickly[280] and hot-tempered[281] with Senate colleagues, but his relations with his own Senate staff have been more cordial, and have inspired loyalty towards him.[282][283]

    McCain acknowledges having said intemperate things in years past,[284] though he also says that many stories have been exaggerated.[285] One psychoanalytic comparison suggests that McCain would not be the first U.S. leader to have a temper,[286] and cultural critic Julia Keller argues that voters want leaders who are passionate, engaged, fiery, and feisty.[266] McCain has employed both profanity[287] and shouting on occasion, although such incidents have become less frequent over the years.[288][289] Senator Joe Lieberman has made this observation: "It is not the kind of anger that is a loss of control. He is a very controlled person."[288] Senator Thad Cochran, who has known McCain for decades and has battled him over earmarks,[290][291] has expressed concern about a McCain presidency: "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."[288] Ultimately Cochran decided to support McCain for president, after it was clear he would win the nomination.[292]

    All of John McCain's family members are on good terms with him,[22] and he has defended them against some of the negative consequences of his high-profile political lifestyle.[293][294] His family's military tradition extends to the latest generation: son John Sidney IV ("Jack") is enrolled in the U.S. Naval Academy, son James has served with the Marines in Iraq, and son Doug flew jets in the Navy.[295][22]

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