The Whoppers of 2008—The Sequel

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  • Posted By: taretare @ 11/01/2008 6:48:33 PM

    I personally am in favor of Obama. What everyone should be willing to accept, is that whomever gets elected, the nation better be ready to give them 2 terms to work out all the trouble this country is in, Don't just look at today America, start looking a little further down the road.

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 7:37:35 PM

      I am sure that Obama and his friends at Fannie Mae will enjoy your vote.

      • Posted By: taretare @ 11/01/2008 8:34:46 PM

        How many people do you know vie Fannie Mae. Or do you just make this up as you go along?

  • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/01/2008 4:06:53 PM

    Senator Barack Obama was born in the United States, on United States soil.
    If you were too, then you are both American citizens.

    John McCain was born in PANAMA.
    Look it up.

    • Posted By: VFW6986 @ 11/01/2008 4:30:46 PM

      McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone, a seperate entity from Panama, and at the time a U.S. territory like Puerto Rico. I would hazzard a guess that Barracks father impregnated Barracks mother in an attempt to gain resident status in the U.S.. A common practice. I am just surprised no in McCains camp slung mud from that pit. This in addition to two U.S. Citizen parents makes him a U.S. Citizen.

      • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/01/2008 5:16:36 PM

        jOHN McCain was born in Panama.

        I am pointing out that Senator Barack Obama WAS born on United States soil and is a U.S. citizen.

        Furthermore, Senator Barack Obama has a member of HOMELAND SECURITY AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE for quite some time. His bill for collecting 'loose' nuclear weapons around the world is famous.
        We want a nuclear free world, right? You live here as well?

        Having a nuke free world is not a separate issue from YOUR own hatred and YOUR dishonesty.
        It starts with YOU. Cause and effect are immediate and long term.

        • Posted By: diogenes 2008 @ 11/01/2008 8:34:30 PM

          have him prove he is an American citizen. I don't think he can. Even his aunt is here illegally and he says " I didn't know her status" Do ya really think that's true? I don't.

      • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/01/2008 5:30:58 PM

        Obama's father came to this country from Kenya and was accepted into Harvard University.

        He was with a special American program set up for students to study here, and take that
        knowledge back home to their country. After graduating, he went back to his country
        and so Obama grew up entirely without him.

  • Posted By: wyomikey @ 11/01/2008 8:33:17 PM

    I laugh at you Dems.Most of you cannot give any good reasons why Obama would be good for this country other than "he's not Bush!" If you believe in Socialism and higher taxes effective after Bush's tax cuts end in 2010 then by God vote Obama. Most of the Republicans on this blog are giving YOU Dems.reasons not too vote Obama,...you have nothing to fight back with!! Everything said about Obama is true,so deal with it. McCain is not Bush,he's more moderate than conservative. People,...think about the future. And for those dissing Palin?,...give me abreak,... BIden???? Get serious!!!

  • Posted By: galbreathj @ 11/01/2008 5:46:33 PM

    Obama: Senior Scare:
    Why the unprofessional reference to Senator Barack Obama as a "turkey". Previous it was "that one". What is your next reference? never mind I think we all know what is going on here.
    This turkey draws in part from a newspaper story saying McCain would pay for the health plan with "major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid."

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:30:26 PM

      Where did you get this lie? I have listend to both cannidates and yet I have never heard McCain say this. Could this be a Obama lie?

  • Posted By: clq881 @ 11/01/2008 8:30:17 PM

    randy - are you a locksmith or a reserve officer? tennessee or arkansas? there is something familiar about your ideas?

  • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/01/2008 5:48:02 PM

    Senator Barack Obama was born on U.Sl soil, in the United States of America.
    If you were too, then you are both American citizens!

    Obama is a member of Homeland Security and Goverment Affairs Committee and was endorsed
    long ago by 9/11 Lee, and now Colin Powell.

    So sorry, just saying, John McCain was born in Panama.
    and it was tricky politically with hoops to jump, at the time.

    You were born - where?

    • Posted By: tigerlily009 @ 11/01/2008 5:57:50 PM

      THEN THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM WITH PRODUCING A "CERTIFIED" STATE ISSURED BIRTH CERTIFICATE. I HAD TO PRODUCE ONE TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY AND STILL HAVE IT IN MY POSSESSION. HE NEEDS TO ALSO. HE IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

      • Posted By: McPalin's Toast @ 11/01/2008 6:27:19 PM

        Small point, TG: if Obama has traveled outside of the US (and he has- duh), then he needed a passport. The US government does not just hand out passports, do they? Do you remember if you needed a birth certificate to get yours? I know I did to get mine. Conclusion? Either Obama produced a legitimate US birth certificate OR the Republican-run TSA and Dept of Homeland Security is even MORE inept and bumbling than most people already think they are. Are you seriously debating whether or not he was born in the US? What next? Are you going to claim that he's not at least 36 years old? This is grasping at straws.

        • Posted By: tigerlily009 @ 11/01/2008 6:59:44 PM

          If the passport was USA and not as reported indonesian. Just post the certified birth certificate and all this nonsense would go away.

          • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 8:30:04 PM

            Sorry Tiger Lily, but I don't think the US is going to send special "certified" copies of Obama's birth certificate to every person who requests one. The US government says he's a citizen--hence the passport. There's a copy of his birth certificate posted on his Web site. Really, this is too trivial for most people to bother with--including probably him. If someone demanded in an unofficial capacity that I produce a birth certificate to satisfy them that I was a citizen, I would just laugh at them.

  • Posted By: cahitxva @ 11/01/2008 4:07:10 PM

    this needs to be updated, this last week Biden has said they would raise taxes on those making $150000, so if it has dropped by 100 thousand dollars in a few weeks, just wait until he is president.... kiss you money good bye America ... Barack has to pay for the Sociallist States of America.

    • Posted By: LarBear @ 11/01/2008 5:10:08 PM

      Don't let Facts get in the way of your Lies and Spin, but here are the Facts:

      http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/28/1600845.aspx

      An Obama aide points out to First Read that the $150,000 figure Biden was citing was simply an example of what someone making that amount would get under Obama's tax plan. Indeed, Biden's $150,000 remark came after he referred to someone making $1.4 million.

      Per the Tax Policy Center, here is how Obama's tax plan breaks down for individuals:
      $0-$18,891 = $567 tax cut
      $18,982-$37,595 = $892 tax cut
      $37,596-$66,354 = $1,118 tax cut
      $66,355-$111,645 = $1,264 tax cut
      $111,646-$160,972 = $2,135 tax cut
      $160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut
      $226,919-$603,402 = $121 tax increase
      $603,403-$2.87 million = $93,709 tax increase
      $2.87 million-plus = $542,882 tax increase

      • Posted By: diogenes 2008 @ 11/01/2008 8:29:27 PM

        And we know you speak the truth. It used to be that the news media shared the news and informed people, now I'm not sure what you do, but I have no respect for the news media after the way this election has been so one sided.

  • Posted By: pamrose @ 11/01/2008 5:54:01 PM

    Dear Mr. Say-no-to-obama: What a shame that you will close your doors because you thing that Obama is going to give money to the undeserving. Acutally, that would be your candidate and your president who gave away billions in tax breaks to companies who had record breaking profits over the last few years. AND they are still doing it. Read about Paulson's 'stimulus' package buying up stocks from failing banks--the US Govt is buying them up at twice what Warren Buffet recently paid for the same stocks and Warren negotiated a return at twice the percentage. So all the little piggies that got us into this mess are making out at the taxpayers expense. And there are also reports that the executives of those banks will still get their bonuses for the worst job anyone has done in banking since the 1920s. Meanwhile--DO THE MATH. If your business makes $280,000 of TAXABLE income (after deductions which are considerable in any companay--I know I have my own company)--then you will have to pay 4% more than what you are already paying on the $30,000 above 250,000. That amount comes to: $1200. So if you have to go out of business because of $1200, you don't have much of a business. Besides, we are not supposed to be only in this for ourselves. I will gladly pay $1200 more so that my fellow Americans can get health insurance, so that their kids can get a better education, etc. That is what 'liberals' car about and we put our money-OUR MONEY--where our mouths are.

    • Posted By: rudeboyjr @ 11/01/2008 6:01:43 PM

      Yea, finally someone hit the nail on the head. This administration has spent billions in other countries and allowed big bussiness to send the workers (the backbone of America to the poor house, while the CEOs enjoyed "business meetings" at luxary spots. Republicans take care of the own and leave the rest of us to suffer. Just remember when Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake", the poor people chopped off her head. How much more should the working class have to endure. VOTE OBAMA

      • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:26:37 PM

        Even if you don't have a job to go to LOL why does your boss who is paying more need you?

      • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:24:39 PM

        You will be suffering with higher prices and less jobs. When the big companies leave who will pay your welfare check.

  • Posted By: runninbear3 @ 11/01/2008 8:26:36 PM

    its a shame that your info is on line and not on the nightly news if only all news media were willing to show fact as they are and maybe then the candidates would not need to inflame the truth to put in nice

  • Posted By: larry555 @ 11/01/2008 8:25:52 PM

    Maybe it's time to think about each candidate's agenda. Does McCain need to enhance his financial portfolio? Certainly not. At his age, is he looking forward to something in particular after the Presidency? Doubt it. Obama - what could his agenda be? The best way to determine that is probably to look at the things he's fought for in the past.

  • Posted By: Iraq Vet 0405 @ 11/01/2008 5:53:05 PM

    Show me proof that Barak Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii.
    What if he was born in Kenya? So what. We only need to change the Consitution for THAT ONE.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 8:24:00 PM

      If he was born to his mother at the time she was an American citizen, then he would be a citizen if if he were born abroad. My children were both born in the UK. Their dad is British, and they are both US citizens.

    • Posted By: tigerlily009 @ 11/01/2008 6:33:45 PM

      IT IS A BIG DEAL!! We do not change the constitution lightly or easily.

  • Posted By: bigoilman @ 11/01/2008 5:56:14 PM

    Hey SayNoToObama, come and try to break my legs. You sound like a 5 footer who drives around in a Hummer to make up for the difference. Your idiot speak is exactly why we need somebody in the Whitehouse that can shut your kind up and do something for the Country and not just for their buddies. But I'm sure you are a Bush lover too. You just keep believing that the conservatives are conservative. We now have the biggest government and the most spending ever. Great job republicans! Oh, you will probably try to pin this on the democrat congress for the past two years. What a joke. Your ship is sinking and now all you have is your bitter angry ranting. boohooo

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:23:29 PM

      Here is yet another case of a person that don't know the facts. It was the democrats that plunged us into a trillion in melt down debts with there fannie mae parties but hey don't believe me oh so smart one do your homework.

  • Posted By: cat1103 @ 11/01/2008 4:29:11 PM

    who is really going to make the most impact. money is just money--it really comes and goes, but life that is the real issue. who values life and protects it to the endth degree. whoever values life is the true winner. God is sadly waiting for one person not to side with those who take the life of innocence from the womb. anything less than that is just disgusting. i know that money is important, but LIFE is more. How do we protect that which does not have a voice and will never have one unless we vote for the one who takes their cause and respects it as God wants us to. When all else fails, money, banks, businesses what do you have left but LIFE. We need to get our priorities in the right place, LIFE the innocence of a child is more important than who has out taxed and/or wasted the most. After all we know the government can outspend any of us in the most wasteful ways--whether Democrat or Republican.

    • Posted By: bug13 @ 11/01/2008 4:45:24 PM

      Cat1103 How many crack babies have you adopted?

      • Posted By: social democrat @ 11/01/2008 5:40:50 PM

        iI suppose you support our occupation in Iraq. I enjoy people who put the lives of possible beings ahead of those who are actually here. One of my biggest problems with Republicans and the far right in particular is their great support of "unborn" rights and their lack of support for actual people in our country and abroad. These people thinking nothing about dropping cluster bombs in civilian areas not to mention our invasion of a country that and no connection to al-qaeda.
        I'd be more willing to think of a repeal of Roe v. Wade as a possiblity if we lived in a society where 'actual" life was as cherished as "possible" life.

        • Posted By: diogenes 2008 @ 11/01/2008 8:21:40 PM

          stay off of crack, which obama wants to just tax and let them sell it on the street, or don't have get pregnant if you want to use crack.

  • Posted By: Disgusted67 @ 11/01/2008 5:56:41 PM

    Those of you Obama followers need to turn on all the channels, go back and see film from him years ago and up to the most recent interviews. He is radical, there is no other way to put it. if you honestly think he will raise taxes on those making more than 250,000, keep researching. In the beginning, he said he would raise taxes on those making more than 300,000, than it became 250,000, then 200,000, then his V.P idiot states 150,000, then another demoncrat (Bill Richardson) recently states that Obama would raise taxes on anyone making more than 125,000. Remember the 70's, well they will be coming back. If socialism is so good why are other countries changing over to Capitalism? Universal health care? Bring it on, most of Americans who need emergency surgeries will die waiting. Why do so many other people from other countries come here for care? Remember the saying, Birds of a feather flock together. If Mc Cain was anyway associated with David Duke of the KKK , Americans would be rioting in the streets. Yes we need change and that's what we are going to get. We will be going from bad to worse. I can't believe we put our trust in this guy who has no experience, and we make fun of Palin. She has more experience than Obama. Want the truth, watch CSPAN and you will see these people at work and how they really vote.

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:21:26 PM

      Oh and don't worry he will get all the way down to 42 thousend. someone will have to pay for the trillions in additional spending.

  • Posted By: jazzcatt @ 11/01/2008 5:56:36 PM

    mr. keepingthefacts: you sound as if you are disturbed about our military & the fact that you sound as if you are a draft dodger? is this correct? why is it people like you get upset when others fight your battles?you stoop to calling them names & unamerican because THEY did stand up for their country? what please explain?

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 8:21:25 PM

      Um, we don't currently have a draft.

  • Posted By: altra1 @ 11/01/2008 5:58:11 PM

    Mc Cain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Check it out right-wing dummies.

    • Posted By: tigerlily009 @ 11/01/2008 6:07:30 PM

      In an area controlled by the USA on a military base. It is considered USA soil while under their control. Read the rules of law. And yes I am a rightie. And know what I am doing. Don't just spit out what you have been told. READ! RESEARCH!

      • Posted By: rudeboyjr @ 11/01/2008 6:14:41 PM

        Oh,you so smart!! I think Hawaii is part of the Unithed States of America.

        • Posted By: tigerlily009 @ 11/01/2008 6:23:37 PM

          rudeboyjr: Yes I am smart and have years of university education and experience. And at least know how to form a correct sentence with all the right words. You need to read more and make decision based on facts.

          • Posted By: rudeboyjr @ 11/01/2008 6:29:35 PM

            Ever stop to think that my sentence structure and comment were intentional. NO, because you, so smart!! Oh by the way, I also have a Masters in EDUCATION.

            • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:20:00 PM

              I may not be as smart as you but at least I know who caused this debt and it was the democrats but don't believe me look it up smarty. I know when people who make the products we use pay higher taxes our prices go up that makes me eductated in math and you......................... asleep!

        • Posted By: tigerlily009 @ 11/01/2008 6:31:57 PM

          Yes Hawaii is a state in the United States of American. Problem is that he hasn't produced a "certified" birth certificate. And there are evidences that he was not born in Hawaii. So if you are so tight with him ask him why he has produced a "certified" birth certificate.

          • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 8:12:10 PM

            I wouldn't worry so much. You can't run for President without being a documented citizen. Don't you think the government checked him out properly? There is a copy of his birth certificate on the Obama site. I don't suppose it would be feasible to fax everyone in the US who wants on a facsimile of the original, so you'll have to be satisfied with this. I think you are being rather silly, though.

    • Posted By: sandyshores10 @ 11/01/2008 8:17:14 PM

      ON AN AMERICAN BASS DUMMY!!! that makes him a legal citizen.

    • Posted By: rudeboyjr @ 11/01/2008 6:10:19 PM

      I think that is in Panama. Isn't that another country and is McCain a citizen?

  • Posted By: glenn ab @ 11/01/2008 5:57:04 PM

    All my life I have been taught to be fair to all. Mr. Obama said "Typical White People" and I had to listen
    again. The Black people of this country have fought against that crap for years. Now a person, who
    should know better said it, and said it with ease, may be our next President. He is not ready.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 8:19:21 PM

      When and under what circumstances did he make this statement?. What was the context? Please don't forget that his mother and grandparents are white, so I doubt if he meant anything nasty. Personally, I was old enough to be aware what was happening when the South was segregated, and I have carried images of those hateful, shouting white faces [by the way, I, too, am white, but as a military brat, had never lived in that kind of environment] all my life. They represent the face of bigotry to me and probably to others, and maybe that would be my idea of "typical white people in that time and place." I doubt if Obama is rascist.

  • Posted By: Judyco @ 11/01/2008 7:49:20 PM

    I started to read this article and then I thought - duh - this isn't fair and balanced - this is Newsweek! In the tank for Obama since day one. I quit reading!

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 8:16:49 PM

      You might want to keep reading. If you have not been listening carefully, you do not realize that what they are saying is the truth.

  • Posted By: ArmandPaul @ 11/01/2008 8:16:13 PM

    Bill Ayers by it self would be non issue as you mention, however when you have a laundry list of Anti American, associates, Educaters, Church Leader and are a in depth studied student of of Saul Alinsky . You run your Campaign entirely on his marxists teaching you have to take this amount of negative American views into consideration. You have to ask yourself is it really issues or is ideology the objective? Maybe if he was more willing towards full disclosure, as he insisted Ms. Clinton be I could be more receptive. We are considering this man to be the leader of the free world. Fluent Educated words is not enough.

  • Posted By: altra1 @ 11/01/2008 7:49:46 PM

    So, 123jenn45 you beleive a terrorist?

    • Posted By: EdieV @ 11/01/2008 8:15:45 PM

      There you go--listening to lies. Do you not ever pay attention to the truth. How can this country have so many people who just do not make themselves more informed. Obama is no more a terrorist than McCain or Sara Palin. You guys have got to come up with something better than this to not vote for a man whose main goal is to make this country better and to take it back to the years we had under Clinton. The Bush years have been years of nothing but making his rich cronies richer. Now it is time to get this country back on track. As a 65-year old white woman I have seen a lot in my times, but nothing quite like the lies that McCain and Palin have continued to spout. Unfortunately, people like you believe them!

    • Posted By: ldb1965 @ 11/01/2008 7:59:26 PM

      That is soooo crazy to think obama is a terrorist!You cant really believe that can you?Dont you think someone would have figured that out by now since he is a senator?Get real!

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