The Whoppers of 2008—The Sequel

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  • Posted By: mbscguy @ 11/01/2008 6:38:19 PM

    No one can sit in church week upon week and never heard the trash being spewed from the pulpit ... I repeat no one ... and to put your kids right there in it says all that needs to be said about it.

  • Posted By: simonthesaint @ 11/01/2008 6:36:47 PM

    it's easy to talk about the mistakes that other people make, if it was easy a lot more people would be running for the precidency, but it is not that easy, some people can't even be good parents, or good employees, being where Bush is, is not easy and having a democratic, congress makes it even harder.
    Since 2001 up to 2003, most people driven by anger for what happen on 9-11 they all agree that some one had to pay for what happen that day, but after learning that revange can back fire most of them change theyr mind just like the democratic party did, Clinton had the oportunity to get Saddan the second time the US paid them a visit but He didn't for all of those who don't know Saddan wanted to control the world thru his oil, that was the reason he envaded Kuwait. Saddam, Irak, and Iran had the very same belives.
    The economy is not bad because of Bush it is because of all the geedy people at the market, and all the democrats at congress that want to end the republican era.

  • Posted By: JEB1013 @ 11/01/2008 6:35:19 PM

    By the way his name is Barack Hussien Obama

  • Posted By: 123jenn45 @ 11/01/2008 6:34:02 PM

    McCain/Palin 2008. Vote American!

  • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/01/2008 6:33:11 PM


    Herself will go down in history as the presidential VP that got the free pass.

    Is it a non-issue, that she and her husband have ties to the secessionist Alaska Independent Party?
    Do you say no?
    Her husband was a registered member for seven years and she has given speeches and recorded speeches for the the AIP Party.

    Free pass anyone?

  • Posted By: eaglwlker12 @ 11/01/2008 6:32:36 PM

    No deception, McCain is right . the records prove it. Of course Newsweek wouldn't say that.

  • Posted By: appalachian @ 11/01/2008 5:47:12 PM

    --------------------------------Why does it seem that no one cares that Obama used drugs (not because of his health), he doesn't answer questions directly, does not answer concerns about his connections with questionable people and don't people understand that you have to get the money from somewhere for these programs that he promises.

    • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/01/2008 5:51:33 PM

      I used drugs......way back in the seventies. Bill Clinton admitted to trying pot. Nick Nolte and how many others? Both Bill Clinton and Nick Nolte were both Rhodes scholars. What have you done?

      • Posted By: AlexHart @ 11/01/2008 6:14:06 PM

        I'm confused. Are you trying insult Rhodes Scholars by proving that anyone can be one, or that they are dumber than most average people?

        • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/01/2008 6:31:31 PM

          If it's too mind taxing for you to figure out, forget it, it is wayyyyy over YOUR head.

  • Posted By: dandist @ 11/01/2008 6:00:14 PM


    Did you let the Democrats convince you that the Republicans are responsible for the current economic crisis when that blame is widespread and equally shared. Democrats Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, Greg Meeks all defended FannieMae in 2004, (see this footage on YouTube) saying there was no problem and "don't try to fix what isn't broken". (Meeks recently admitted he was wrong). John McCain stood before Congress during The Reform Act of 2005 and urged them in great detail to do something to prevent the obvious economic crash we're experiencing now. The one person with the power to allowed this to happen, to start it all in motion, was Democrat Bill Clinton when in 1999 he, with ACORN looking over his shoulder, signed the bill that made all those bad loans possible. His signature alone removed some rules that had been in place after The Great Depression to protect us from this type of casualty. That was the birth of this whole mess. The blame for this is shared by many people, Democrats well included, don't let them tell you they're not to blame, don't be that gullible.

    • Posted By: englandwood @ 11/01/2008 6:17:21 PM

      ITS BEEN GOOD UNTIL BUSHS GOT IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THEY STARTED THIS THING WITH IRAG FOR NOTHING, IT S COSTING ALL OF US BIG MONEY AND FOR ALONG TIME TO COME, BINLADIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONLY THING WE STARTED, BUT BUSH HAD TO LIE AND TRY TO GO GET SOME OIL, WHICH BY THE WAY , NOT MUCH OVER THERE, SO HE CAN MAKE HIM AND HIS OIL BUDDIES RICHER.V SO ITS BY FAR THE REP. FAULT, AND IF YOU ARE A REGISTER REP. THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM HELPING HIM PAY FOR THE BULL CRAP THAT HE COST ME AND MILLIONS OF DEMS.

  • Posted By: lpatrick @ 11/01/2008 3:53:56 PM

    The fact that rose believes that Obama is arabic just proves how disappointed I am in the McCain campaign and republican machine, which includes the incredibly biased and most times inaccurate, Fox News Network. To rose and others like her, how can you say that Obama is a muslim when you're own candidate, McCain, has come out and correctly said that he is not. Is that faction of the country so extremely right at this point that they're no longer willing to listen to even McCain? Obama is a muslim. Obama is a terrorist. Obama is a socialist. All of these statements are completely false. If you want to vote for McCain, that's your right, however, do it based on facts, not ultra-conservative lies and slanders pandering to your worst fears and prejudices. C'mon. If you really think McCain is a better choice, just look at their rhetorics over the past few days. Every single McCain speech is obsessed with putting Obama down and perpetuating the falsehoods about taxes, about the donations, etc. Obama is the only candidate at this point giving the country a plan for what needs to happen in the next four years. And btw, as far as revealing the identities of private citizens who contributed to Obama, which would include their financial information since most of the donations were done by credit card...you have to be joking right? Are you seriously asking a major party in the country to release the names and credit card information for thousands (if not more) private individuals to the public and God knows who else, just because Palin and the far right want to? Palin is an idiot, has no idea what the VP office involves, has no working understanding of the U.S. Constitution, and is the worst kind of politician...stupid with a microphone. I sincerely hope Obama wins, not because I love Obama, but because I have lost all confidence in McCain and never had an ounce of confidence in Palin.

    • Posted By: jstar @ 11/01/2008 3:58:00 PM

      barak hussien obama is an arabic name, that does not make him arabic, but it sure does not make him african, spanish or swedish either!

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 6:14:17 PM

        A name doesn't make you anything. It's just a name.
        vlamb

      • Posted By: smeghead1234 @ 11/01/2008 4:18:08 PM

        because your name is Jstar, does this mean you are from another galaxy? Your name has nothing to do with where you are from, you should really rethink your stance.. After all if you were really from America you would have a name like.... Walks with a turtle... This is a nation of immigrants.

  • Posted By: ktalebbeik @ 11/01/2008 3:56:35 PM

    Obama is the man.

    • Posted By: mcdeere72 @ 11/01/2008 4:02:29 PM

      Yeppers, the man that has the slitted tongue.

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 6:12:09 PM

        I'm not sure what that means exactly, mcdeere72. Can you explain, please?

  • Posted By: Prisca55 @ 11/01/2008 6:12:08 PM

    Obama said that he opposes gay marriage when he was at the Saddleback Forum -- but in a letter to the Alice B. Toklas LGBT Democratic Club in San Francisco this last summer, he says something very different--and congratulates gay California Democrats on their recent marriages. See link, (scroll to bottom of page to read his letter.) ttp://www.alicebtoklas.org/abt/index.asp

  • Posted By: dennis18r @ 11/01/2008 3:58:37 PM

    Is this guy kidding? Obama is an American, Period! He is the absolute example of what can happen if a person works hard, goes to school and gets an education. For anyone to say he does not respect our flag, our country or our troops has to be so misinformed and brainwashed that any form of logic has completely escaped their mind. Obama is half white and half black. HE IS ALL AMERICAN! To suggest otherwise is completely ludicrous. American needs an intelligent President. It???s time to stop electing C students like Bush to represent us as a country. McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class! Obama is a Harvard Graduate at the top of his class. The choice is obvious for anyone who has the least bit of common sense. I???m not saying that McCain is a bad person but his choice in Sarah Palin as his running mate clearly shows a lack of judgment especially with our country in a crisis. We are a nation that is barely surviving off its reputation. We no longer produce anything. We are a country of consumers and we don???t need another bottom of the barrel President flushing our prestige down the drain.

    • Posted By: humbird59 @ 11/01/2008 4:03:46 PM

      All American? He may (or may not) have been born on American soil. But his father was Kenyan and a very violent man. His mother renounced her AMERICAN citizenship and went to Indonesia to live. So Obama might be a citizen of the world, but he is ashamed of America. Did you see the photo of him with the book about a post-American world.? That is what he is working toward ... the fall of the U.S.

      • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 6:10:29 PM

        Oh for Pete's sake! You seem to be grasping at straws. Obama was born in Hawaii. That is American soil. His mother was American when he was born. His father's nationality doesn't matter much, and neither does whether or not he was violent, as he wasn't around long enough to have had much influence on his son. As for whatever book he was reading, since when, in America, do we censor what adults read?

  • Posted By: zfanatique @ 11/01/2008 4:03:24 PM

    To: Whadamess:

    I sincerely hope that you will read my post!

    Abortion is a personal issue. It is not a political issue. The Republican party has created a lot of hype about this issue and Roe Vs. Wade, as they are able to rally super religious people in hopes of getting their vote. the truth about abortion is that it is not a happy thing. No one wants to get pregnant only to have to resort to this. However, in some cases it is necessary and that is why abortion should stay legal.
    The smartest thing anyone ever said to me about abortion is, "If you you think it is morally wrong, don't get one". This cleared my mind a bit, as I never have to get one if I feel it is wrong and, if I feel I need to for some private reason, I can. I also realized and began to wonder why I was so interested in making an issue out of abortion in refernce to people I don't even know. I mean, how dare I tell others what they should do?
    If you are still hell bent on thinking abortion is a political issue instead of a personal one, well McCain in pro-life and Obama is pro-choice (not pro-abortion, pro-choice).

    • Posted By: QuadEagle @ 11/01/2008 6:08:38 PM

      You've just made the Republican argument...abortion is a personal issue and not a political issue. Republican's oppose Roe v Wade because the issue of abortion was decided in the courts as the law of the land and now we all live under it, despite the fact that over half of the country being pro-life. Republicans believe that it was wrong for the courts to decide and Republicans also do not think that it is an issue for the Congress to legislate. BTW - just because I declare that I am pro-choice as it pertains whether or not I murder my neighbor...it is still murder. The opposite of pro-life is pro-death...the opposite of anti-abortion is pro-abortion. Because I think that war is sometimes necessary to promote a greater peace I could call my position pro-peace and then call the Liberal postion anti-peace...but I don't think that they would stand for that. Pro-choice...yeah right! If pro-choice let's you sleep at night so you don't have to think about all those children being killed while they sleep in their mother's womb, then you go for it.

  • Posted By: humbird59 @ 11/01/2008 4:00:48 PM

    And how did Obama pay for his Harvard education? His travels abroad after college? His multi-million dollar house? Dirty money, that's how.

    Obama was raised a Muslim, and those ties run deep. He is more proud to be African than American and has said so himself.

    • Posted By: vlamb @ 11/01/2008 6:03:13 PM

      Please substantiate your assertions. Can you provide references to reputable sources that dirty money paid for Obama's education or traveling abroad? I did both by working full time while I went to college, getting student loans for graduate school [which I just recently paid off 10 years later] and by staying with friends while traveling in Europe. Barack Obama had both student loans and scholarships. The house and the help he had from Rezko, who bought the property next to it, have been pretty well researched and written up. Nothing illegal, or something would surely have been done about it by now. Obama wasn't "raised a Muslim." He went to a muslim school for awhile--I doubt he had much to say about it at that age. When did he say he was more proud to be African than American, if you please?

    • Posted By: mother23 @ 11/01/2008 4:41:45 PM

      I agree he has said it more than once. He said it in his own book he wrote. here is a line right out of his book.From Audacity of Hope:'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'

    • Posted By: DennCiot @ 11/01/2008 4:34:34 PM

      It is IGNORANT BASTARDS like YOU that keep this FALSE CRAP alive. Do your self a favor (and everyone else in the country) and FALL OFF the Earth.

      I hope after OBAMA wins, his first order of business will be to "EXTERMINATE" ALL hateful people like you (who have identified themselves) thru these postings. Like a rotten Cancerous tumor you and ALL other hateful people need to be exterminated. PERIOD !!!

  • Posted By: AlexHart @ 11/01/2008 5:14:56 PM

    Actually, based on what's been said here (and elsewhere), Obama might not be a natural born citizen of the United States (and therefore not fill the requirements).

    Let's see what the Constitution says.

    Article XIV, Section 1 of the US Constitution states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.". Note that there are two conditions that must exist for this to be true in his case (because to be President cannot be a naturalized citizen): he must be born AND subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. If indeed his mother had renounced her citizenship prior to his birth, then, as a child, it is accepted international law that he is subject to the jurisdiction of his mother's country, which would not have been the US.

    In any case, no one has enough info to investigate it properly and his birth certificate has been sealed (by the Democratic Governor of Hawaii after his 'emergency trip to see his dying Grandmother), so it doesn't look like we will be able to find out until after the election. Does this "timing" raise and red flags?

    This portion of the Constitution been "overlooked" for years, even though it is technically still in force (not repealed or Amended otherwise). It is the sole rationing for "Anchor Babies", and will have to be dealt with, one way or another at some point, to get the Illegal Immigration Issue resolved.

    How is Obama's Granny is doing, by the way?

    • Posted By: rudeboyjr @ 11/01/2008 5:21:49 PM

      hey ding-a-lings. Check out snopes.com for another opinion on Obama's birthright.

      • Posted By: AlexHart @ 11/01/2008 6:02:12 PM

        Nice try on the detour to Snopes.

        Their opinion does not address the circumstances that I raised, and that have been raised by other. His mother was not a citizen (having renounced her citizenship) regardless of where he was born (though there are a number of witnesses that say it was Kenya), so one of the conditions is not met, namely, that he was not under the jurisdiction of the US.

        And for the record, I just read the Berg finding and the case was not dismissed on it's merits, but on the fact that a private citizen, in this case Berg (but it could easily be any citizen), does not have the stature to file such a lawsuit.

        That should make you feel good, shouldn't it?

        All that needs to be done is to open his birth records. Till that happens, and there is nothing else hidden, there will be serious doubts about the role of the press and those charged with investigating such things.

  • Posted By: conceredaboutamerica @ 11/01/2008 6:01:19 PM

    WELL AFTER READING OR SXIMMING THRU THIS ARTICLE I DECIDED TO GOOGLE THE NAME OF PERSON WHO WOTE,,JUST AS I THOUGHT ANOTHER BAD CHOICE ,,TRY FOR YOURSLEF ,,AMAZING WHAT PEOPLE WILL JUST READ WITHOUT INVESTAGING THE SOURSES

  • Posted By: hildy464 @ 11/01/2008 5:57:44 PM

    McCain has proven over the last few weeks that he is desperate and will say anything to win. He was saying the same thing about Obama not too long ago. Bottom line, he is full of ***, plain and simple. He can't control his own political campaign (shouldn't he and Palin be on the same page?), and people want to make him the next president. If he wins than everyone who voted for him deserves what happens to this country. Just like Bush, it is hard to find anyone who will admit to voting for him, but someone had to.

  • Posted By: dewaldron @ 11/01/2008 5:48:29 PM

    Invest in commoditiy futures - chicken and watermellon! Vote Obama!

    • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/01/2008 5:54:16 PM

      You sir, should be wearing a robe and hood! P.S. and work in the darkness of night.

    • Posted By: rudeboyjr @ 11/01/2008 5:53:45 PM

      GOT RACISM?

  • Posted By: BT2009 @ 11/01/2008 5:11:20 PM

    CONTD...

    As President, Obama will drive small companies out of business with his tax policies and probably run the entire country to the ground. Electing the leader of the free world is not a joke. If one does not like working for a company or even belonging to a family unit, one has several options available. If one does not like one???s boss, one could quit and find work elsewhere, if one is pissed with one???s family, one could move out to live elsewhere. But if our President is not up to the job and running the country to the ground, we can???t just pack up and leave ??? unless we have the financial resources, like Jim Rogers who did just that. Without the financial wherewithal no other country would want an American permanently living on its shores. But if one has the money one could live almost anywhere. So in the end Obama???s high tax policies will drive away good, hardworking Americans who has the means and what would be left would be the poor Democrats. There won???t just be slums on the South side of Chicago or in Central LA but the entire country could turn into a big slum. This may sound far-fetched but history will eventually show that Americans are making the biggest mistake in their lives by being emotional. Bush whom so many Americans currently dislike, would in hindsight prove to have been a much better President than Obama.

    This phenomenon that is playing out in America reminds one of the movie ???The Omen???. Powerful people (like Warren Buffet, Colin Powell, Oprah Winfrey etc) who are already in high places prepare the way for the Coming of ???The One??? What will happen after the arrival of ???The One??? is left to be seen but the Omen isn???t good so far. McCain may not be everyone???s ideal choice for President but unlike Obama, he is an open book. In uncertain times like these, it is better ???The One??? you know than ???The One??? you don???t know.

    • Posted By: sleepyo @ 11/01/2008 5:53:46 PM

      How dare you say he will run the country into the ground, Your President Bush has already done that. Obama will raise this country from the dust and make us respected world wide for his diplomacy, tact and intelligence. Plus his fiscal responsibility.

  • Posted By: altra1 @ 11/01/2008 5:33:56 PM

    Republicans seem to be as smart as their candidates.

    • Posted By: projectedorb6 @ 11/01/2008 5:41:03 PM

      Are you on a computer in your mother's basement right now? Get out and see the REAL world. Obama is NOT the right answer.

      • Posted By: solorsq @ 11/01/2008 5:47:45 PM

        Apparently, you either think like an insect, or ride a short school bus! Good-bye!

        • Posted By: projectedorb6 @ 11/01/2008 5:53:14 PM

          Speaking of hive-minds...Liberals anyone?

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