Roe v. Wade v. Kristi

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  • Posted By: hopefloats @ 11/02/2008 2:12:03 PM

    The sad thing is that those of us who have voted Republican because of pro life issues have been duped.
    How many profiles in courage have we seen from people who were clearly elected on that issue alone? If
    McCain were the great hero that he continually says he is--crossing the aisle, being challenged, etc.--he would have spearheaded a movement to deal with life issues. I hope that people are not voting for McCain
    thinking that he will remedy the abortion issue. I'm voting for Obama this year, first time I've voted for a democrat for president ever--38 years of voting!

  • Posted By: jjjjj5 @ 11/02/2008 1:52:30 PM

    I truly wish that this person -- a law school student --- was around when bedposts and wire hangers were used by desperate teens to mutilate themselves to avoid being pregnant without detection...... The blood that spills from these right wingers is enough to damn them to hell .... if they only knew!

  • Posted By: dragon45 @ 11/02/2008 1:44:35 PM

    Did you ever notice. Democrats normally pro choice and support child programs.
    Republicans normally pro-life and against big govt child programs. So, Democrats are pro choice till birth then pro life after birth. Republicans are normally pro life till birth then no longer pro life! Why don't they support programs to provide a safe environment for life? Isn't EVERY life precious?

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 1:30:56 PM

    Hear Obama and Clinton for yourself, in their own words with out the filter of someone else's opinion..

    Bill Clinton says Democrats failure to allow Republicans to regulate Freddie and Fannie caused economic melt down.

    so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

    Obama in this video, addressing his community activist work and his work representing ACORN in litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, and addressing the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as those actions relate to the destruction of our economy by causing the current real estate and subsequent financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

    Acknowledging the catastrophe, but as apologist for the Democrats, Obama then offers this justification.

    "The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

    Yah, great idea. Economically unsound, but embraced by Obama. Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    ???
    And here is Obama again, stating

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    And here is Obama again in December 2007, promising a role in formulating policy during his transition if elected, despite saying he has no ties to this organization, Acorn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU


    And here is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/02/2008 1:34:48 PM

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  • Posted By: lona3185 @ 11/01/2008 8:03:24 PM

    I can't understand the pro-life leaders say ..... 'now is not the time'.....WHEN is the right time???? Why hasn't it been done a year ago or so???? When WILL be the right time????? When it's too late???

    • Posted By: rdunton @ 11/02/2008 1:22:19 PM

      Apparently, since the Republicans have had the Presidency 20 of the last 28 years and nothing has been done to overturn Roe v. Wade, perhaps it isn't as important to them as they say. Maybe for some Republicans it is important, but for others, it is just lip service to get votes from pro-lifers. I am against abortion, but their are other issues that Jesus told us in the Bible. How about concern for the poor and downtrodden like Jesus had? I see that from the Democratic Party and NOT the Republican Part, which favors the well-to-do.

  • Posted By: ikie12pts @ 11/02/2008 1:13:25 PM

    IT's very simple. If you believe that abortion is wrong, don't ever have one.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 11/02/2008 1:05:38 PM

    To all of the conservatives out there who think that Obama is a flaming liberal, I would like to remind you of what he did when he was elected President of the Harvard Law Review. The Law Review President gets to name ten individuals to write articles for the Review, and these ten people get to control the content of the publication. All of the minorities and the liberals thought they finally had it made, that Obama would appoint ten left wing editors. Instead, Obama appointed three conservatives, three liberals and four moderates. That year the Law Review was critically acclaimed as the best run and best written Harvard publication in decades.

    So when he wins in November, conservatives don't have to freak out. Obama is a centrist and will appoint a balanced cabinet full of active people who will really get things done. Kind of like the way our multi-cultural society is supposed to be. And exactly what we need in this time of economic crisis.

  • Posted By: lona3185 @ 11/01/2008 7:58:53 PM

    My prayers are with you Kristi......I am at my wits end with activists that are more concerned with the fertilized eggs of turtles laying eggs on the beach...than they are with human fertilized eggs... They are more concerned with the care of beach lights, people walking on the beach, etc than they are caring for the fertilized human egg... And people plant seeds in the ground, nuture, water, weed the area...but have no regard for the fertilized human egg. God help them. I think Obama should watch a partial birth abortion...perhaps it may shock him into reality...or any abortion. How can he have care of medical care for children and not for born alive babies from botched abortions???? God help this nation.

    • Posted By: Blue in AZ @ 11/02/2008 10:43:45 AM

      And I am at my wits end with people who care more about a clump of cells that has a 60% of actually becoming human than actual humans.

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/02/2008 6:17:16 AM

    THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen next
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything seen in generations
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand how its been broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use quantum mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He was the last to know somthing was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a budget surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that
    Stand up and hold them accountable
    Bush isn't on the ballot this year but his policies are
    Elect Obama Biden 2008






    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/02/2008 5:08:34 AM

    Number of unrepentant terrorist friends with anti-American views for Obama = 57

    Number of unrepentant terrorist friends with anti-American views for McCain = 0

    The choice is obvious...vote for the patriot and war hero...JOHN MCCAIN!!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/02/2008 5:08:10 AM

    Number of unrepentant terrorist friends with anti-American views for Obama = 57

    Number of unrepentant terrorist friends with anti-American views for McCain = 0

    The choice is obvious...vote for the patriot and war hero...JOHN MCCAIN!!

  • Posted By: ellieo @ 11/01/2008 2:53:45 PM

    Seems like this ammendment will outlaw the pill and IUDs as birth control, as they prevent the implantation of the fertilized egg into the womb. Right?

    • Posted By: Thorney1 @ 11/02/2008 12:24:09 AM

      Yes, It is very bad . I voted NO on it.

  • Posted By: Electrichead @ 11/02/2008 12:23:20 AM

    Sorry, as much as I am against abortion .. this amendment would set the stage to establish that US citizenship is established at conception instead of birth.

  • Posted By: Qidisrupt @ 11/01/2008 10:57:15 PM

    Nowforsometruth, this article is about Kristi, not Barack. Now for some more truth, I believe in a God who forgives the worst of sinners...wouldn't you agree? Jesus went to the cross so the judgement that we all deserve should be put all on Him. Now for some more truth? People fall short in many waysGod correct us when we judge others.

  • Posted By: askingtoughquestions @ 11/01/2008 10:45:58 PM

    imchatiin2u...why is infanticide illegal? If it was a mistake why can't mothers kill the baby? If it has mental/physical handicaps why should it not be euthanized? Our government has determined the rights of individuals, most notably in the Constitution, this is not just Kristi determining the rights of the individual, our government has already done so. Law its self has also defined the rights of an individual. So if a new born baby has rights as soon as it is born, why does it not have the same rights 3 months before hand, or 6 months before hand, or even 6 weeks that ihas began to exsist? It seems to me that no one wants to actually adress the issue that it is murder. There has been a million abortions in this country ( actually wway more) and there is NO excuse for that. Yes we all make mistakes, but if anyone had integrity, they would own up to those mistakes, not punish someone else for the,. Additionally, no one ever wants to talk about the after effect. Many women who have abortions express deep deep regret, almost to the point where PTSD sets in. If it was just a choice, why is there regret? If there was nothing wrong with it, then why do people feel that they did something wrong?

  • Posted By: askingtoughquestions @ 11/01/2008 10:45:29 PM

    imchatiin2u...why is infanticide illegal? If it was a mistake why can't mothers kill the baby? If it has mental/physical handicaps why should it not be euthanized? Our government has determined the rights of individuals, most notably in the Constitution, this is not just Kristi determining the rights of the individual, our government has already done so. Law its self has also defined the rights of an individual. So if a new born baby has rights as soon as it is born, why does it not have the same rights 3 months before hand, or 6 months before hand, or even 6 weeks that ihas began to exsist? It seems to me that no one wants to actually adress the issue that it is murder. There has been a million abortions in this country ( actually wway more) and there is NO excuse for that. Yes we all make mistakes, but if anyone had integrity, they would own up to those mistakes, not punish someone else for the,. Additionally, no one ever wants to talk about the after effect. Many women who have abortions express deep deep regret, almost to the point where PTSD sets in. If it was just a choice, why is there regret? If there was nothing wrong with it, then why do people feel that they did something wrong?

  • Posted By: s_austin @ 11/01/2008 10:33:03 PM

    Thank you Imchatin2u!!! Where are the picket lines with "pro-lifers" bringing food clothing & volunteer hours at the schools & dr offices where we deals with the neglected, dirty, undisciplined & starved for attention children of the hoards of poor & uneducated young women who bounce from one boyfriend to another? Oh, yes, I mean those who are RESPONSIBLE & have babies whether they can care for them or not.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/01/2008 10:30:33 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.

  • Posted By: Imchatin2u @ 11/01/2008 10:10:40 PM

    So Miss Kristi.... are you willing to care and nurture all the unwanted children. Most people who seek abortion do so out of humanity and consideration of what and how they can provide for this unexpected event. Having said that.... I am not pro abortion... I am pro choice. If abortion is not right for you. YOU have that choice. Why do you feel it necessary to choose what is appropriate in others live. (typical republican stance) Oh... and your next argument.... shall we say the UNBORN... well if it can survive at 8 wks gestation, it was the will of GOD and fate will not render it aborted. Your argument goes unheard and unwarrented. Life deals mistakes... in genetics, in values, in theory and in justice. Go Figure. And the answer to the first question I asked I can asure you would be "NO" that is not my responsibility. The problem I have with your argument... you are stepping on determinining what is the right of an indivudual. It is their choice and their repentence with "the supreme one" whether you call him GOD, Jehovah, or Allah. Why should you insert yourself in such a personal issue? An Idealog that wants to push YOUR value systems on Everyone instead on focusing on educating and preventing these types of things from happening. Poor thang. I can see better money spent on those living with needs like HUNGER, Lack of Healthcare, and appropriate Housing and Schooling.

  • Posted By: Imchatin2u @ 11/01/2008 10:08:00 PM

    So Miss Kristi.... are you willing to care and nurture all the unwanted children. Most people who seek abortion do so out of humanity and consideration of what and how they can provide for this unexpected event. Having said that.... I am not pro abortion... I am pro choice. If abortion is not right for you. YOU have that choice. Why do you feel it necessary to choose what is appropriate in others live. (typical republican stance) Oh... and your next argument.... shall we say the UNBORN... well if it can survive at 8 wks gestation, it was the will of GOD and fate will not render it aborted. Your argument goes unheard and unwarrented. Life deals mistakes... in genetics, in values, in theory and in justice. Go Figure. And the answer to the first question I asked I can asure you would be "NO" that is not my responsibility. The problem I have with your argument... you are stepping on determinining what is the right of an indivudual. It is their choice and their repentence with "the supreme one" whether you call him GOD, Jehovah, or Allah. Why should you insert yourself in such a personal issue? An Idealog that wants to push YOUR value systems on Everyone instead on focusing on educating and preventing these types of things from happening. Poor thang. I can see better money spent on those living with needs like HUNGER, Lack of Healthcare, and appropriate Housing and Schooling.

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