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  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/03/2008 7:21:50 PM

    How pathetic for the Right-Wing Fanatics to try to mis-lead and intimidate college students when they are trying to vote. That is NOT how a democratic society works. Right-Wing Fanatics have no place in this country and they should not be allowed to breed. Truly sickening how a party has to come up with stupid hard to follow ballots and have to end up down right cheating.

    • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:11:46 PM

      You're right, I was a dumb college student once, I voted for George McGovern.
      Now that was Stoop Head

      • Posted By: leepdx @ 11/04/2008 1:24:27 AM

        I've met more than my share of unintelligent college graduates in my lifetime.

  • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 11:14:37 PM

    Arab-Americans overwhelmingly support Senator Barack Obama for president. So do Jewish-Americans. One of these two groups either does not care much about the Arab-Israeli conflict and/or is stupid. My money is on the Jews.

    American Jews care less and less about Israel. Over 50% of non-Orthodox Jews under 35 say they would not view the destruction of the State of Israel as a personal tragedy. Israel is not a popular cause on college campuses. Many Jewish students struggle against being identified with Israel, lest it complicate their social lives. In the under 35 cohort, only 54% profess to be comfortable with the idea of a Jewish state.

    Other Jews who still find it uncomfortable to disavow concern with Israel have convinced nevertheless themselves that it is in Israel's best interests to be forced back to the 1949 armistice lines.

    Typical Liberal Democrat Jewish Voter: "What do you expect us Jews to do, hold the Palestinians hostage forever? Get your head out of the sand and wake up to the fact that we are going to have to hammer out a peace deal, a real peace deal, if for no other reason but to show ourselves that we are willing to humanely and fairly deal with a problem we created for ourselves."

    They place the exclusive onus on Israel for the creation of the Palestinian problem - either by virtue of its creation or for having the effrontery to win in 1967. In addition, they blame Israel for the failure to achieve a "real peace deal." The infamous "three No's" of the Arab League in response to the Israeli offer to withdraw from the West Bank after the Six Day War played no role; ditto Arafat's decision to return to open warfare and reject Prime Minister Ehud Barak's offer of well over 90% of the West Bank at Camp David. Finally, they want the Jews of Israel to demonstrate their humanity. They never mentions ensuring their own survival as a desideratum. So goes the "pro-Israel" case for Obama.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 11:13:19 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.

  • Posted By: seahorn @ 11/03/2008 10:34:29 PM

    The only solution is to open the flood gates to young, immigrants. They will generate GDP, pay for social security and buy up depressed housing.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/03/2008 10:32:29 PM

    Then why would the Democrat hearken to failed policies of the past in order to ''fix''the economy?

    Relying upon their union masters will not get the job done. Already,as we see from the congressional websites of the US House and Senate,Democrat leftwingers are tinkering with ideas that will destroy any nascent recovery. GM and the other Big Two will get the bailout[UAW],despite creating a miserable product that will end up costing more for taxpayers and increase unemployment. The revision of the TAFT-HARTLEY Act is back on the menu for the Democrats. Here,''right-to-work'' states will be eliminated,despite their track record as having lower unemployment than union states[ US Dept.of Labor Graphs 2007]. This job-killing ''card-check''scheme will be implemented,as will the adoption,as pushed by Californians Waxman,Pelosi and Boxer [who have seen this scheme cause their state to bleed jobs already],of ''51-49'',whereby when a company reaches its 51st employee,it will be subject to a gigantic new range of federal[as crafted by majority Democrats],and state regulations,driving businesses out of business,as they will not be able to retreat to neighboring states with relaxed regulation as there will no longer be such a condition at the national level. Unemployment will skyrocket under their plans.
    Next,the idea hatched by House Democrats George Miller and Jim McDermott that will kill all 401k plans in the US. Employees will be forced[''mandatory''],to pay into a government scheme.[and we all know how well government works under both Democrats and Republicans in the modern era]. In addition,Democrats will move to kill coal and any nuclear recovery and will go after mining next,as their plan in the House is to revise the 1872 Mining Act and levy such royalties upon American mines that they will drive these out of business.
    So far,not good. The biased press has simply abdicated its responsibilty to look into these assorted outrages to the economy in their efforts to get their man in. However, the functions of the economy do not move on ''Hope'' and ''Change''. Nor upon Olbermann or Matthews blowhardism. It moves on numbers ,mathematics, market forces, and regulatory constrictions or relaxing. As it now stands,the Democrats are in a supreme position to return this nation to the days of ''Brother,Can You Spare A Dime?''

    www.house.gov House Education and Labor Committee.House Energy Committee.House Ways and Means Committee [proposed bills,amendments]

    www.senate.gov Senate Labor and Human Resources Committee. Senate Committee On Energy,Education and Labor.[as above]

  • Posted By: jwwsu @ 11/03/2008 4:04:42 PM

    Here we go again with another lecture on that nebulous concept called "growth" and its evil twin, "progress".

    Just what do they mean outside of the imagination? What are we supposed to be 'growing' towards? Is there an upper limit to 'growth'? What about 'progress'? What is it we are supposed to be progressing to? I have never seen any tangible indications that we have grown or progressed toward anything like a long lasting condition. They are like processes without end much like Sisyphus pushing that rock up the never ending mountain.

    In truth with rising costs for everything, businesses and the very wealthy who avoid taxes on a massive scale and wages stagnating in an ever increasing service economy I don't see how we have grown or progressed anywhere.

    If an economy takes $20. an hour to live decently but wages are less than $10. something has to give. If people don't have the resources to purchase overpriced foreign stuff, then that stuff has no real value.

    So, where was the growth and progress we now seem to have misplaced?

    • Posted By: eagle575 @ 11/03/2008 4:44:28 PM

      so show us some evidence that business and the top income earners (wealthy is indicative of net assets, not income; one can have huge amounts of assets, but very little income) avoid taxes. last i look at the IRS, GAO and CBO numbers the top 10% pay an average of approx. 60% of all taxes.

      business taxes? since we have the 2nd highest corporate rate in the world, it would be prudent of management to move operations where they can fulfill their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders-otherwise they get sued for not doing so. delaware chancery court has a multi-year backlog of such cases. does the term "no win situation" sound familiar? btw, since the 86 TRA every fortune 1000 company has IRS agents on the premises year round, the number of agents depending on the size of the company.

      • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:29:20 PM

        The top 50% (over 45000) pay 97.3% of the Tax dollar. 40% do not pay any taxes at all.

  • Posted By: delfairchild @ 11/03/2008 4:45:35 PM

    My High School Principal said that "Birds of a Feather Flock together". I would think that if Barack Obama worked with, studied and was friends with the Socialists; Bomber Bill Ayers, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Black Muslim leader Louis Farrakhan, Communist Author Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alynsky, Radical Priest Fr. Pleger, Rashid Khalidi, and others, he would be that same type of person. "Birds of a Feather flock together".

    I don't think we should have that type of person running this country.

    • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/03/2008 6:29:50 PM

      We could point out McCain hanging out with Charles Keating, domestic terrorist Gordan Liddy,etc... - but it's all so stupid. I listen to the candidates - and see who offers more to the American people - and that's Barack Obama. The election is almost over - can you put down this racist garbage now?

      • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:27:33 PM

        Speaking of Racist Garbage, would you vote for Ken Blackwell, J C Watts or Michael Steele?

      • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:26:39 PM

        John McCain was exonerated and Barry does not represent any thing I believe in.

    • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:25:22 PM

      You missed Kevin Jennings, Sec'y of Health, education and Welfare.

    • Posted By: josmith812 @ 11/03/2008 8:28:14 PM

      I think all of you guys are unhinged. get a grip

    • Posted By: gmoe2001 @ 11/03/2008 5:13:10 PM

      Exactly! As the parent of a Navy Midshipmen, I feel that Mr. Obama doesn't deserve to lead the greatest nation in the world when he hasn't proven himself in any manner. Minimally, he demonstrates that he is a poor judge of character by the company he keeps. It seems that he tells everyone what they want to hear. That should scare us all as times are tough and there are no simple solutions.

      • Posted By: robert56001 @ 11/03/2008 7:25:25 PM

        You must be one of those KKK's wife also mother of a KKK and you are a KKK.

    • Posted By: gmoe2001 @ 11/03/2008 5:04:50 PM

      From the father of a usna midshipman, mr. obama has no place in the white house keeping this kind of company. He doesn't even pledge his loyalty to this great nation and will not wear the american flag because of who it might offend. Minimally, he displays a poor judge of character.

  • Posted By: AlanTuring @ 11/03/2008 5:27:08 PM

    Okay here we are again debating the wonders of supply-side economics that simply don't work. The wealthy derive most of their income from investment not productivity. As for the CEOs and super high upper 2% of income earners that tax is actually unbalanced. The small changes GW made under his administration (the ones that weren't even requested by the most of the wealthy) were one of the chief accelerators of the economic crash. They're learning a valuable lessen in that no middle-class spending then the dollars dry up and they don't earn much either. Supply side economics has never worked and even common sense tells you it won't. Imagine yourself running a company that has 500 employees and you get a huge "PERSONAL" tax break. Your income is 5 million a year but your taxable income after deductions, credits, and tax free investments is 1 million. You pay 33% on that 1 million but earned 5 million. You now get your huge tax return and jump for joy as you head down to that car dealership to purchase a new vehicle that you couldn't afford to buy on your 5 million dollar salary before the tax cut. But wait the middle class are no longer buying your products because money is tight and you adjust your maximum production to match by maintaining only the needed work force for the task. Your business now gets a huge tax break and you jump for joy and run out to hire 100 new workers that you don't need because nobody is buying your product right now. That doesn't matter to you because the tax break you received is big enough to pay for all those employees. Now all these employees at all these companies that hired them not because they were needed but because they received a tax huge breaks now have the money to buy the products with money your company spent on employees they didn't need. Okay is this starting to sound stupid? If it is that's because it is! In 1980 for the first time in history more families had two people working just to pay the bills than didn't. Household income has increased only because hours and numbers of working people per household have gone up. Relative income has dropped per person. In 2002 GW tried to get large corps. to bring money they earned back into the U.S. by offering tax discounts. The effort for the most part failed. This is because they can stockpile funds overseas and borrow against it here if they need capital. Surprise! Corporate tax should be lower and unfair advantages large corps have should be removed-like tax free income until it reaches the U.S.! Furthermore open up fair trade. As a U.S. citizen you should be able to buy health insurance from any company in the U.S. for yourself or your company and its employees. As it stands now only large corps that have multi-state locations are allowed to do this. For most of us our parents did better than we have.

    • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:24:30 PM

      Supply side always works whenever it is tries. Lower the rates and increase the revenues. The top 2% of taxpayers pay 50% of the tax Dollar.
      I'd like to see the business you ran or even did the books for. Obviously you have no idea what makes a business run. You don't hire people to get tax breaks. If you are successful, what do you need tax breaks for?
      You price the product aright asnd give your customers what they want and you will make money. Sort of unlike liberal talk radio, wouldn't you say?

  • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/03/2008 6:26:50 PM

    Now it's time to vote. We all know exactly what each candidate offers the country - and what kind of people will serve with them. McCain's staff has been almost all old Bush people - so he wants 4 more years of Bush. Obama surrounds himself with Clinton folks as well as new thinkers - I like that new direction much more. I also think the VP choices said a lot about each candidate. It's time for change!

    • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:16:05 PM

      Yeah we need a Vice President who has been going to his favorite restaurant for the last 15 years that closed 20 years ago.
      I know, let's give Joe the Nuclear football, shall we?

  • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/03/2008 6:45:59 PM

    As we near the time to vote - it would be great if we could all put down the insults, lies and distortions - and debate the issues. Enough of the personal attacks. I think Obama/Biden have put together some great plans - if you don't like them - lets debate - but I not respond to any attack garbage - thanks.

    • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:13:48 PM

      What great plans? Oh Yeah the Great Five Year Plan of Tsar Obama.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/03/2008 7:13:28 PM

    McCain thinks jobs will be created by continuing Bush's corporation tax cuts. After 8 years of Bush giving corporations tax cuts, where are the jobs? They are overseas like in India, not in America. Why can't all the call centers in India be moved to Small-Town America? Why would McCain continue Bush's tax cuts for corporations when it hasn't worked for 8 years? - Typical GOP support of Big Business.

    If the 'distribution' of tax cuts/credits have not worked for the past 8 years, why is McCain so scared to try something different? Under Idiot Bush, corporations like Exxon were allowed to gouge prices at the gas pumps so shareholders could pocket record profits which obviously were NOT stuck back into the economy. Rich individuals got nice big fat checks back which were also pocketed and NOT stuck back into the economy. Why can't the government under Obama step in and equalize the distribution? What is wrong with ROBIN HOOD? Schools in Texas participate in the Robin Hood system.

    • Posted By: hammerofthor @ 11/03/2008 7:16:31 PM

      You are telling it like it is. It's really simple. John McCain will bring us more of the McSame. Are you happy with where our country is now? Then I guess you should vote for McCain. Do you want things to change? Then vote for Obama. It's a simple choice really.

      • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/03/2008 10:12:50 PM

        Yeah you boobs cried for Change in 1976 and look at what we got, Mr Peanut in the Jif House.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 9:56:14 PM

    With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

    Where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23 and McCain???s donations to him http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Other purported quotes from Obama???s books: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21


    A 40 year republican

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  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 10:01:31 PM

    In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

    Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx


    The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
    Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 9:56:42 PM

    ???Nowforsomethingotherthanthetruth??? exemplifies the measures employed by the McCain campaign starting with the anonymous smear emails that began when McC hired the Bush propaganda machine.

    This deception campaign tries to benefit from party loyalties. It preys upon hate, prejudice and fear, and on the ???unanswered questions??? fabricated by the anonymous emails this campaign perpetrated. Links to debunks of many of those fabrications are in an earlier posting.

    This is by far the greatest extreme ever in American politics. It is a fundamental threat to our political process. It would further entrench the Bush operatives who took over the McC campaign, and the republican lobbyists who represent only the megarich who looted our economy.

    McC was a maverick. He promised to root out the lobbyists he said are what???s wrong with Washington. He said he would not take the low road employed by the Bush machine when it smeared him. He sold out when he got behind and subscribed to the ideology that the end justifies the means.

    McC would continue the Bush tax give away to the rich that McC previously opposed and called ???irresponsible??? because ???it only benefits the rich.???

    McC now wants to give more billions in tax give aways to oil companies that have just reported the largest profits in history for two consecutive quarters, while he claims that lowering taxes for everyone under $250k in after-deduction income will somehow keep businessmen from starting businesses.

    ???Nowfor??? has employed many of the themes in the anonymous viral emails. He recently said it was ???revealed that Obama has PLO buddies??? referring to Rashid Khalidi to whom McC donated $440k:

    http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html Guilt by association.

    "Nowfor" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people.

    Alan Greenspan said the cause is that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation; "we trusted" these self-interested looters ???to regulate themselves???. Credit Default Swaps resulted. They increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under R stewardship.

    The legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to McC's campaign manager, Rick Davis, who received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to while he has been McC's campaign manager.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1

    Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. The Rs, including McC's campaign manager, are in the pockets of big money.

    Without solutions, it is necessary to campaign with deception, misdirection, fear, smears, hypocrisy.

    Attempts to hijack our political process with deceit and abuse of the trust of party loyalties are reasons I'm voting for Obama after 40 years of never voted for a Dem.

    A 40

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 9:56:10 PM

    With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

    Where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23 and McCain???s donations to him http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Other purported quotes from Obama???s books: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21


    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 9:56:09 PM

    With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

    Where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23 and McCain???s donations to him http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Other purported quotes from Obama???s books: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21


    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 9:56:05 PM

    With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

    Where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23 and McCain???s donations to him http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Other purported quotes from Obama???s books: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21


    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 9:56:01 PM

    With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

    Where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23 and McCain???s donations to him http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Other purported quotes from Obama???s books: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21


    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: Lee NC @ 11/03/2008 8:21:33 PM

    Screw Obama and the rest of you White Liberal idiots. Our country will Fail if we continue to go down the socialist path of the democrats....

    • Posted By: chitown @ 11/03/2008 9:18:36 PM

      Let's see, We owe China almost a TRILLION Dollars, and they are Communist. Ever shop at Wal Mart Republican Neo con Comrade? We purchase 700 BILLION in Oil from the Arabs.and some are Terrorists,so if you gas up what would that make you. This all accomplished under Dubya's watch a Republican, Communist, or Terrorist? Not to worry , if you think you see red now just wait until tomorrow!

  • Posted By: DUMPLIN @ 11/03/2008 6:39:38 PM

    WHY DON'T YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS TRY TO DEFEND OBAMA AND HIS ASSOCIATIONS? ALL YOU DO IS ACCUSE MCCAIN OF BEING BUSH WHICH HE ISN'T. AT LEAST MCCAIN DOES NOT WANT TO SOCIALIZE EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY AND LOWER YOUR STANDARD OF LIVING. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH OBAMA AS PRESIDENT. POOR PEOPLE CANNOT RELY ON OBAMA TO MAKE THEM RICH, THEY HAVE ONLY THEMSELVES TO RELY ON, HARD WORK, AND FREEDOMS IN AMERICAN SOCIETY AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITY. THOSE OF YOU WHO COMPLAIN THAT THE RICH ARE KEEPING YOU FROM ACHIEVING ARE BELIEVING THE LIE THAT YOU ARE STUPID AND CAN'T DO IT ON YOUR OWN. THIS IS THE MINDSET THAT OBAMA FEEDS AND DEPENDS ON TO GET HIM ELECTED, THAT AND HATE ESPOUSED BY THE LIKES OF JEREMIAH WRIGHT. IN THE 1960'S BLACK WERE MORE INTELLIGENT AND HARD WORKING AND LOOKING FOR WAYS TO BETTER THEMSELVES ON THEIR OWN. WHAT HAPPENED? DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN'T ACHIEVE ON YOUR OWN. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES, WORK HARD AND MAKE YOURSELF BETTER, IT WILL MEAN MORE TO YOU.

    • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/03/2008 6:43:36 PM

      I find that people who write all in CAPS is because they have nothing intelligent to say - thanks for proving my point correct!

      I will debate any issue you want - we welcome an intelligent debate - it's your side who keeps tossing out the garbage! Let's talk about the economy - I love Obama's plan and will defend that.

      • Posted By: lovepeople @ 11/03/2008 9:01:16 PM

        Hey Dump why are you so obsessed with 13% of the population? Seems like you need someone to "dump" on so that you being inadequate doesn't seem so big?

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