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  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 2:26:51 PM

    What does redistributive mean. Well, remember that it was the Left-Wing of the Supreme Court that brought us this little jewel, holding that the government could take your real property, like your home, not for public use, but to give to another private individual, such as a political contributor or other party hack or interest group.

    Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005), was a case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States involving the use of eminent domain to transfer land from one private owner to another to further economic development. The case arose from the condemnation by New London, Connecticut, of privately owned real property so that it could be used as part of a comprehensive redevelopment plan. The Court held in a 5-4 decision that the general benefits a community enjoyed from economic growth qualified such redevelopment plans as a permissible "public use" under the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the majority opinion; he was joined by Justices Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer

    The decision was widely criticized by American politicians and the general public. Many members of the general public viewed the outcome as a gross violation of property rights and as a misinterpretation of the Fifth Amendment, the consequence of which would be to benefit large corporations at the expense of individual homeowners and local communities. Some in the legal profession construe the public's outrage as being directed not at the interpretation of legal principles involved in the case, but at the broad moral principles of the general outcome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 2:16:12 PM


    Watched Fox ???News??? 11/1 for perspective. Got that and some chills.

    LIVs have gotten notice lately, but the real scary ones are the Propaganda Dupes.

    Paul Gigot was interviewing someone named Dorothy; didn???t get her last name.

    *********

    PG: ???We???re back with a look at what???s really at stake, where each candidate really stands. Dorothy, for you what are the really big differences, the defining issues here????

    Dorothy: ???The differences are attitudinal and political. Basically: how do you feel about our place in the world. We???ve seen a regular line from Mr. Obama in which he seems to indicate that the opinions of the U.S. held IN THE FASHIONABLE SALONS OF THE LEFT all over Europe, and IN ACADEMIA, and IN THE DARK CHAMBERS OF OUR ENEMIES, are something he understands too well.

    ???In fact, I suspect we will find a SQUISHY, as some would put it, MULTILATERALISM, AT BEST.???

    PG: ???Why can???t McCain exploit that? Because in past elections that would have been a really costly position for a Democrat to take.???

    Dorothy: ???He simply has not been willing to say: THIS IS HOW OUR ENEMIES SPEAK.???

    PG: ???But Dorothy, if he had said that, the PRESS WOULD JUST HAVE ANNIHILATED HIM!???

    Dorothy: ???He [McC] has this weakness, MORAL VANITY, SENSITIVITY. He fears what the press will think of him, instead of understanding it.???

    ???McCain is so clearly who is not receptive TO THE IDEAS OF OUR ENEMIES.???

    ???Obama said, the first thing he said was, what will you do when you go abroad: Ah, I will go abroad and make amends TO OUR ENEMIES???to others in the world. He sees us as a fallen nation.???

    **********
    ???Fair and balanced??????

    I have seen other manifestations of the propaganda machine in those ubiquitous viral smear emails, but I have now a better appreciation for the vituperation we are seeing from the Propaganda Dupes.

    Lord, help us all on Tuesday!

    I???m going to take Bass Pro???s idea. I???m going to watch the election coverage on Fox ???News??? Tuesday.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 2:15:41 PM


    "Nowforthetruth" is now selling guilt by association that Obama has PLO buddies referring to Rashid Khalidi. McCain donated $440k to Khalidi.

    See for yourselves at: http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    "Nowforthetruth", a little more "truth" about guilt by association....

    "Nowforthetruth" also said: "Nins, all you prove is that you have perpetual PMS and cannot read. If you are as careless in your practice, you are a danger to your profession." You reveal too much of yourself "Nowforthetruth".

    "Nowforthetruth" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people. "Nowforthetruth" continues to repeat well known deceit.

    Alan Greenspan stated recently that the problem was not anything like that. Rather, he stated that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation, and "we trusted" these self-interested looters to regulate themselves. Credit Default Swaps were the result.

    Credit Default Swaps increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under the R stewardship. No regulation.

    While there are several variations of a viral email that tries to blame a few thousands of political donations to some Ds, the actual, legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to Republican lobbyists to lobby Rs, only, to PREVENT REGULATION.

    McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to present, to lobby Rs,only, against regulation. Freddie paid Rick Davis while he has been McC's campaign manager. Freddie donated $250k to the R convention.

    These facts are everywhere in the legitimate news: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1 There's much more legitimate news on this.

    Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. It is inescapable that the Rs, most prominently McC's campaign manager, were in the pockets of big money while they drove the buss off the cliff with us in it.

    You can try to distract people with fears about 'those guys'. Lies, distortion, deception. 'Socialist' is only the last in a long, now desperate, list of labels you have tried to pin on 'that one'. That's all you have left.

    Is your most recent reposting here directed to fears about "Socialism", or is it just innuendo, or are we trying to fold in a little racism too?

    Since we have no more ideas, let's keep running our campaign on fear, smears and hypocrisy.

    Keep talking "Nowforthetruth", you're really helping. You keep demonstrating that we all have to vote against lies and propaganda and attempts to hijack our political process with deceit. Your actions are the kinds of reasons that I'm voting for Obama after 40 years of never having voted for a Dem.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: FATJOEY @ 11/02/2008 2:01:23 PM

    If you are in trouble,its not Wall Streets fault,nor the Governments,it's YOUR FAULT! There should be no bail outs! Learn to live within your means!

  • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/02/2008 1:58:58 PM

    Obama is the only one offering serious solutions at this point - McCain/Palin are too busy complaining and attacking. We need calm, intelligent leaders now - not a bunch of phony mavericks.

  • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/02/2008 1:32:46 PM

    Republicans seem to have nothing left to offer except baseless lies and half-truths. They need to step away from power for a few years and find their way back. New leadership is desperately needed.

    For now - I am confident that Obama and the Democrats can lead us through this economic crisis. They have demonstrated to me that they are more honest and calm in a crisis - they earned my vote. Go Obama!

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 1:27:14 PM

    Hear Obama and Clinton for yourself, in their own words with out the filter of someone else's opinion..

    Bill Clinton says Democrats failure to allow Republicans to regulate Freddie and Fannie caused economic melt down.

    so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

    Obama in this video, addressing his community activist work and his work representing ACORN in litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, and addressing the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as those actions relate to the destruction of our economy by causing the current real estate and subsequent financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

    Acknowledging the catastrophe, but as apologist for the Democrats, Obama then offers this justification.

    "The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

    Yah, great idea. Economically unsound, but embraced by Obama. Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    ???
    And here is Obama again, stating

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    And here is Obama again in December 2007, promising a role in formulating policy during his transition if elected, despite saying he has no ties to this organization, Acorn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU


    And here is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

  • Posted By: Independant Voter @ 11/02/2008 1:24:03 PM

    It's time for a serious discussion of the economy - not the dumbed-down (ie Joe the Plumber) nonsense. Obama seems to be the only one willing to take this crisis seriously.

  • Posted By: valwayne @ 11/02/2008 1:22:43 PM

    During a previous troubled time...the 70,s the country listened to the voices of a limited future and turned to Jimmy Carter who had no solutions except to retreat internationally and sypathize with the countries malaise. Thank God we kicked him out in 4 short years and turned to a man who knew that the American people have it within them to do whatever they want and put us back on a trajectory for growth and security. Unfortunately, now even though we are far better off than in the 70s the national media have convinced us the sky is falling and we have to retreat and lower our expectations again. And they have another candidate of defeat and lowered expectations who will ease the pain of supposedly dimmer futures by taking from the wealthy to ease the pain. How the country could be turning to a multi-Millionaire who lets his illegal immigrant Aunt live in poverty in public housing, supported by American tax payers, is beyond me? But it does indeed look like we may well be in for Jimmy Obama II. Let's hope there's another Reagan at the end of that dark tunnel!

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 1:22:35 PM

    Hear Obama and Clinton for yourself, in their own words with out the filter of someone else's opinion..

    Bill Clinton says Democrats failure to allow Republicans to regulate Freddie and Fannie caused economic melt down.

    so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

    Obama in this video, addressing his community activist work and his work representing ACORN in litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, and addressing the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as those actions relate to the destruction of our economy by causing the current real estate and subsequent financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

    Acknowledging the catastrophe, but as apologist for the Democrats, Obama then offers this justification.

    "The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

    Yah, great idea. Economically unsound, but embraced by Obama. Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    ???
    And here is Obama again, stating

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    And here is Obama again in December 2007, promising a role in formulating policy during his transition if elected, despite saying he has no ties to this organization, Acorn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU


    And here is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

  • Posted By: Nins @ 11/02/2008 1:14:55 PM

    Honestly, looking at McCain and Obama objectively (without any party affiliation or any racism) I really can't see why anybody would vote for McCain. Obama has offered a much more coherent plan to get America out of the economic disaster we are in.

    Right now, most people are anxious about the economy, fearing the worst but hoping for the best.

    Reality check: within 18 months YOU could be standing in a bread line. That's how bad it really is. And Obama will work actively to prevent this short term, as well as make us strong again long term. As much as I like McCain and admire his patriotism, he really is not up for the job, not now with the global markets falling apart.


    Obama's economic plan can be found at:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/index.php

    Here's an excellent video about the economy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d4a6RNhCUo

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 12:57:36 PM

    Obama, along with his democratic buddies in Congress, personally and professionally advocated for a residential housing policy favoring forced sub-prime lending, which subsequently resulted in massive defaults and foreclosures, leading to your loss of significant equity value in your home, to the point that it destabilized your banks, which panicked the stock market, which wiped out your savings.

    Look and listen to Obama for yourself. Obama in this video, addressing his community activist work and his work representing ACORN in litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, and addressing the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as those actions relate to the destruction of our economy by causing the current real estate and subsequent financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

    "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

    Acknowledging the catastrophe, but as apologist for the Democrats, Obama then offers this justification.

    "The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

    Yah, great idea. Economically unsound, but embraced by Obama. Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

    . Oh, he has made lots of promises, but given that he broke his promise to be limited to public campaign funds, you cant put much faith in that, and there will be no means to keep those promises anyway.


    Below is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/02/2008 1:06:34 PM

      nowforsomemorecutnpaste, blah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blah

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 11:57:35 AM

    In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

    Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx


    The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
    Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/02/2008 1:05:29 PM

      Blah, blah, cut n paste, blah blah, cut n paste, cut n paste, blah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blahblah blah blah. Nowforsomemorecutnpaste. blah blah blahblah blah blah

    • Posted By: neos @ 11/02/2008 12:20:41 PM

      Cut and Paste=Robocall

      • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 12:55:56 PM

        It is hard for you to rebut Obama and company in their own words, recorded live, isn't it. Since you have nothing else, ad hominin away. . .

  • Posted By: smale25 @ 11/02/2008 12:18:44 PM

    The way this article is written, one would wonder if the emphasis on disinflation is another one of those conspiracy theories about which the general public was unaware of until disaster struck. In my opinion, the author should have tried to explain the implications of inflation for economic growth and for income inequality. He should have also tried to explain the modern methods developed in economics for gauging inflation.

  • Posted By: Dencal26 @ 11/02/2008 9:06:30 AM

    Obama will have a large Dem Majority in both Houses. Last President to take office with such an advantage since Carter. He will be exposed rapidly. He has oversold and overpromised. Unless he finds a way to walk on water within 90 days he will be a failure.

    • Posted By: RockRibbedConservative @ 11/02/2008 11:40:41 AM

      Proof that History is not being taught in schools. BJ Clinton had both houses when he was in charge 1993-1995 and look what happened! That fabled Middle Class Tax Cut became the largest Hike in History.
      History will repeat itself if Barry gets in.

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 11/02/2008 10:15:18 AM

    DICK CHENEY ENDORSES MCCAIN/PALIN

    Thanks Goodness! He waited so long I was beginning to worry that he would be one of the many high-profile Republicans endorsing Obama!

    www.RepublicansForObama.com

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 11/02/2008 10:15:07 AM

    ABC Reports that in a conservative radio interview that aired in Washington, D.C. Friday morning, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin said her First Amendment rights are threatened by reporters suggesting she is engaging in a negative campaigning against Barack Obama.

    Palin told WMAL-AM that for reporters or columnists to suggest that she is going negative constitutes an attack on her free speech rights under the Constitution, saying -If the media convince enough voters that this is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations, then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.-


    If I hadnt heard her butcher the Constitution numerous times already, I might not have believed it!

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/01/2008 6:33:23 PM

    corn is just another invented issue.
    All the group does is register new voters . They pay people 8 bucks a hour a help people
    fill out registration forms and then turn them in. By law they are required to turn in ballots people fill out that dont seem credible. But they seperate them from the normal ballots and inform election officials when they turn them in. As a example If somone fills out a ballot that says donald duck they still have to turn that ballot in , but since there really is no donald duck and no one to show up and vote with a id that matches that registration on election day . It will have zero effect on anything and all this is is a waste time
    Also all ballots acorn marks as fishy are also investigated and checked against state records to make sure they are real people if not they are thrown out.
    Its has no effect because no one can vote without proper ID
    So unless the gop thinks there are imaginary people to go along with with throw away ballots then
    lets move on to something that matters like the fact we are going in to the next great depression,
    and that mccain says he doesnt understand the economy
    How about we talk about the war, the national debt <11 trillion>, The housing market, the job market,health care,global warming.
    Are things so great we need to invent issues like acorn ?
    or is it the gop has no answers to the mess they have created in the last 8 years?
    Let talk about things that will improve our lifes and not something no one cares about.
    And lets throw out the poeple that created this mess
    they dont deserve a chance to make things worse

    Please vote early election day will be a mess

    • Posted By: Vypurr @ 11/01/2008 6:50:55 PM

      Acorn is corrupt. They have been bagged for voter fraud in 20 states.... always stuffing the ballot box with dem votes.

      Vote early! Vote often! Vote Dem... even if you're dead!

      • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/01/2008 10:01:03 PM

        WHAT A LIE
        Why dont you try to refute what i wrote instead of typing a quick sentence of BS

        • Posted By: Vypurr @ 11/02/2008 9:53:55 AM

          "Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys vote early in.... Nevada!

          I guess you have been living under a rock or on some other planet. Here's a few of just thousands of links regarding Acorn voter fraud over the past ten years.

          Suggestion: Take your blinders off and do a little research before you call someone a liar. That way, you won't look like a jackass, as you have here.



          http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

          http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/09/what-does-obama-know-about-acorn-fraud/

          http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1125393&srvc=2008campaign&position=12

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM708EjH0bs

          http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/midwest/view/2008_10_29_Mich__AG_files_voter_registration_fraud_charges/

  • Posted By: neda @ 11/01/2008 10:54:06 PM

    Obama's health care plan difinitely will not help the economy. He can't possibly pay for a fraction of what he has promised. I'm still trying to figure out obama??? healthcare plan. I believe on Tuesday he said he was going to force small businesses to insure employees. As a small business owner, I would like to do that, but right now, I'm having problems just trying to get my employees some work. If I'm forced, we all would be out of work. I believe he said if that didn't work, he would offer employers some assistance to insure their employees. Then he said if that didn't work, employees would be able to apply for the same insurance federal employees have (applying for federal insurance is a lot different from the free government insurance he promised earlier). (You have to watch obama because he will switch something up on you and you won't even know it.) As a former federal employee, I'm trying to figure out how somebody making 10, 15, 20k per year can afford even federal insurance. Making 50k per year, we pay $220 a month for insurance through the federal government. That is for high option, no dental, insurances which includes only eye examine which we haven't been able to use since we had the policy. So, under obama???s plan, an employee may have to go through up to three difference steps to get insurance. Which is not likely to be for free. i'm just trying to figure out how that simplifies the insurance process. Can somebody better explain it to me?

    • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 12:16:07 AM

      Correct. In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

      "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

      2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

      Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
      See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

      Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

      See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

      Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

      See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
      And
      http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx


      The democrats failed social engineering policies are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
      Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
      Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

      • Posted By: Stringer @ 11/02/2008 9:45:36 AM

        You mean like the spending spree of Bush and Co over the last 8 years, with ballooning deficits and debt that has nearly doubled since W took office. You republicans talk out of both sides of you mouth warning about the threat of an ever expanding government under a Democratically controlled federal government, while at the same time presiding over the largest expansion of government in history.

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