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  • Posted By: benluclar @ 11/03/2008 9:04:45 AM

    The most troubling to me is not the accusations of terrorist friends and other undesirables of Obama, but the ARROGANCE of the man to feel he DOES NOT HAVE TO DISPUTE them. Any candidate running for the Presidency should be open enough to at least address accusation which does not go away.
    But he is arrogant enough to believe he is above reproach.
    I don't like that about this man. It is a continuing pattern of heartfelt self-deserving indulgence.

  • Posted By: kcrose75 @ 11/03/2008 9:03:49 AM

    and George W. is the saint of all saints? Cheney Rumsfeld Rove Abramoff Stevens et al are SUCH GOOD boys, the kind we can all ascribe our aspirations---or---maybe they're all goons brought forth by the Bush Gestapo methinks........

  • Posted By: Chuck Goodman @ 11/03/2008 8:25:10 AM

    We become what we are around. Our values, attitude and beliefs are formed by the people we associate with. We take on the drives and goals of those who teach us and those who aspire to specific aims that we are allied with.
    Ayres is a documented terrorist. Wright wants God to Damn America. Rezko cheated the American Public. Fleger has abhorrence for America. Franklin Rains cheated America.
    Acorn tries to bribe you and intimidate you to vote with and for all the above. And, the list of shady characters goes on and on and on.
    While McCain may not be your number one choice for President he will and has defended America. He is offering his life for America and has proven he would/will die for America. None of Osama???s associates would do that and they trained Obama.
    Don???t be duped by the pretty and empty talk. Obama allows his brother to live in a slum and his Dear Auntie to live in a slum. What makes you think he has any compassion for you when he ignores his own family???s basic needs?
    Think about that! Than vote from you heart as well as your mind

  • Posted By: Krohn @ 11/02/2008 10:50:52 PM

    The Wall Street crisis was planned the night of Obama's meeting at Bill Ayres home to put Obama in The White House. Together they put a beautiful plan into place.

    This Strategy was first elucidated in the 1966 issue of 'The Nation' Magazine by a pair of radical Socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven.

    David Horowitz summarizes it as:

    "The strategy of forcing political change through an orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of Capitalism by overloading the Government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
    unquote

    Obama begin with ACORN by funneling millions into their organization. He then trained ACORN to stage protests in banks to force them to issue risky loans or they would be threatened to face racial charges. ACORN was trained to intimidate financial institutions into giving ???Ninja??? loans to people with NO assets, NO job and NO income, who couldn???t afford these loans.

    That caused the housing bubble two years ago it was by ACORN's actions they were able to destroy our credit system.

    As this played out, D-Barney Frank and D-Chris Dodd were able to cover up the millions of improvident loans to these bad risky house buyers. And Barney Frank and his chums successfully were able to block all of President Bush's attempts to put a rein on this problem.

    So Fannie & Freddie was forced to purchase all these failed subprime mortgages.

    Then both Frank and Dodd denied that there were any problems, and refused the Bush Admin. requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and they were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the 'minute they failed'.

    Democrats then blamed Bush saying it happened on his watch knowing it would hurt the Republican Party in the election setting it up that Barack Obama could use this to his advantage.

    Karl Marx once compared a Revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface.

    Barack Obama is that Marxist mole !

    • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 11/03/2008 7:37:41 AM

      This is such an incredible package of half-truths, conjecture, and flat out lies it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

      If Acorn was so powerful, why are we only hearing about it now, conveniently in time for the election? Where is the money trail? Which financial institutions - the same ones who invented credit default swaps to hide their own greed?

      Acorn destroyed our credit system? Excuse me? And Obama was behind it? Say what?

      They have medication for this kind of paranoia.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/03/2008 6:57:21 AM

    BARACK OBAMA IS A FRAUD ....HE'S BEEN LYING.....MEDIA REPORTS ARE SURFACING ALL ACROSS THE USA OF OBAMA'S DISTURBING PAST AND FALSE POLICIES.....VOTE MCCAIN !!

  • Posted By: greatmidwest @ 11/03/2008 2:28:35 AM


    Jon, the unique insight of both Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Jackson can be seen in Barack Obama. As the prior two dealt with a Civil War and a divided nation, a President Obama will have to deal with the complexities of a modern day version of a divided America that not only deals with Union vs.Confederate and the freedom vs. slavery , but a nation that is composed of Caucasians, African-Americans. Mexican-Americans, Latin-Americans, Asian-Americans, Arab-Americans, etc., plus the 10 percent Gay American population. Since Day 1 of his campaign for President of the United States, Senator Obama has worked to unite a nation divided by Red and Blue and racial undertones, by getting the American people to look at themselves, recognize that we all share the same problems, and see that our nation is only as strong as it's weakest link. The events of Sept. 11th, Hurricane Katrina, the War in Iraq, the mortgage crisis, the immigration crisis, the health insurance crisis, and the current economic meltdown affects ALL of us as a nation no matter what socioeconomic background you come from, though the majority of those struggling are America's middle-class families. Senator Obama's core belief of building a stronger America by getting Americans to focus on our shared goals, rather than our innate differences is not some monumental discovery, but a belief that somehow became a lost priority in government. Similar to Lincoln and Jackson, Obama is a man who in order "to see him fully is to see ourselves more honestly". It's hard to beleive that after 212 years our great nation is still hindered by those very characteristics that our Constitution tells us we should respect in each and every one of us. God Bless America.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 9:52:49 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.

    • Posted By: DavidCA @ 11/03/2008 12:54:57 AM

      Thank God, you only get one vote, Nowforsomemoretruth! And I already canceled it out by voting for Obama. Nobody is buying the scare tactics this time. Get used to it, Obama's going to be our president.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/02/2008 10:42:28 PM

    BREAKING NEWS ALERT....

    Obama taped conversation with San Francisco Chronicle states his policies ???will bankrupt coal mining operations that produce gas emissions in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia and North Carolina
    which it will cause energy prices to skyrocket....." .....more info nobody knew until now about what Obama wants to do!!

  • Posted By: SassyFrassy @ 11/02/2008 9:45:42 PM

    LET'S TALK ECONOMICS--and what has led to our "meltdown"

    In OUR previous administration after the previous administrations FIRST term and BEFORE their second term the Usa sent our law enforcement to Yeman to arrest Osama bin laden. The Yeman ambassador promptly got into a 'turf battle" with USA law enforcement to claim the USA LAW ENFORCEMENT was "infringing" on YEMAN ambassadors "turf".

    So what happened OUR USA LAW ENFORCEMENTS WERE TOLD by OUR USA PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION--to go home empty handed. Our previous Administration didn't know at the time their irresponsible actions had paved the way for terriorist to make plans and lay groundwork for 911.

    The Wall Street journal at that time printed a small article on it and to the recent it has been discussed but apparantly NOT ENOUGH.



    I submit for your reading NY Times 1999 - MUST READ!

    Well, it???s about time, the mainstream ???brainwashing media??? is finally coming out with the truth on this meltdown???

    I think if they would???ve come out with the truth right away instead of letting obama camp point fingers at the Bush Admin. THE Gallup polls etc would look a whole lot different RIGHT NOW!

    I just hope the ???American People??? Get it ~ before it???s too late!

    Look! The New York Times is catching up to the American people..it???s important for ALL Americans to know who is responsible for this Economic Meltdown we are experiencing???in fact, some of you might remember that I posted the notice from Bill Clinton himself [I posted again, what Bill said at the bottom of this post]

    Who???s administration
    caused the problem??? See below.

    Amazing
    foresight!! Take a gander at this while they try to lay blame for the whole meltdown???

    9 years ago???this one is priceless and worth the read- right out of New York Times

    September 30, 1999

    Fannie Mae
    Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending by steven A Holmes where the DEMOCRATS admitted that faulty lending pracitces along with ACORN activities have brought use to the crossroads our Nation is today.

    If we are looking for ECONOMIC DELIVERENCE-- we must TIE our exit to political progress people. Honestly, how could anyone have MISSED the point??? Tieing our exit to political progress will kick start jump the US and everyone and businesses OUT of RECESSON "MODE" and into re-building phase mode. It will put the Us and everyone and businesses back to work at full capacity.

    Perhaps the catchphrase of this election should be--when will we learn, oh baby, when will we learn and WAKE UP AMERICA THE FREEDOMS YOU SAVE WILL BE YOUR OWN.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 7:16:01 PM

    Lets not forget the Court, and the case of Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005),

    What does redistributive mean. Well, remember that it was the liberal Left-Wing Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court that brought us this little jewel, holding that the government could take your real property, like your home, not for public use like a road or school, but to give to another private individual, such as a political contributor or other party hack or interest group.

    Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005), was a case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States involving the use of eminent domain to transfer land from one private owner to another to further economic development. The case arose from the condemnation by New London, Connecticut, of privately owned real property so that it could be used as part of a comprehensive redevelopment plan. The Court held in a 5-4 decision that the general benefits a community enjoyed from economic growth qualified such redevelopment plans as a permissible "public use" under the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the majority opinion; he was joined by Justices Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer

    The decision was widely criticized by American politicians and the general public. Many members of the general public viewed the outcome as a gross violation of property rights and as a misinterpretation of the Fifth Amendment, the consequence of which would be to benefit large corporations at the expense of individual homeowners and local communities. Some in the legal profession construe the public's outrage as being directed not at the interpretation of legal principles involved in the case, but at the broad moral principles of the general outcome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 5:54:56 PM


    "Nowforthetruth" is now selling guilt by association that Obama has PLO buddies referring to Rashid Khalidi. "Concerned Canadian" can't vote here, but joins in.

    McCain donated $440k to Khalidi. See for yourselves at: http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    "Nowforthetruth", a little more "truth" about guilt by association....

    "Nowforthetruth" also said: "Nins, all you prove is that you have perpetual PMS and cannot read. If you are as careless in your practice, you are a danger to your profession." You reveal too much of yourself "Nowforthetruth".

    "Nowforthetruth" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people. "Nowforthetruth" continues to repeat well known deceit.

    Alan Greenspan stated recently that the problem was not anything like that. Rather, he stated that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation, and "we trusted" these self-interested looters to regulate themselves. Credit Default Swaps were the result.

    Credit Default Swaps increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under the R stewardship. No regulation.

    While there are several variations of a viral email that tries to blame a few thousands of political donations to some Ds, the actual, legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to Republican lobbyists to lobby Rs, only, to PREVENT REGULATION.

    McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to present, to lobby Rs,only, against regulation. Freddie paid Rick Davis while he has been McC's campaign manager. Freddie donated $250k to the R convention.

    These facts are everywhere in the legitimate news: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1 There's much more legitimate news on this.

    Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. It is inescapable that the Rs, most prominently McC's campaign manager, were in the pockets of big money while they drove the buss off the cliff with us in it.

    You can try to distract people with fears about 'those guys'. Lies, distortion, deception. 'Socialist' is only the last in a long, now desperate, list of labels you have tried to pin on 'that one'. That's all you have left.

    Is your most recent reposting here directed to fears about "Socialism", or is it just innuendo, or are we trying to fold in a little racism too?

    Since we have no more ideas, let's keep running our campaign on fear, smears and hypocrisy.

    Keep talking "Nowforthetruth", you're really helping. You keep demonstrating that we all have to vote against lies and propaganda and attempts to hijack our political process with deceit. Your actions are the kinds of reasons that I'm voting for Obama after 40 years

    • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 7:14:46 PM

      I understand that you wish to run away from the words of your new love, recorded live, but you cannot. They were recorded live for everyone to hear without your spin. I know it hurts you, but that's just how it is.
      Hear Obama and Clinton for yourself, in their own words with out the filter of someone elses opinion..

      Bill Clinton says Democrats failure to allow Republicans to regulate Freddie and Fannie caused economic melt down.

      so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

      Obama in this video, addressing his community activist work and his work representing ACORN in litigation against the banks and relating to the Community Reinvestment Act, and addressing the failure of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as those actions relate to the destruction of our economy by causing the current real estate and subsequent financial crisis, states that, and I quote:

      "Subprime lending started out as a good idea, helping Americans buy homes who previously could not afford to. Financial institutions created new financial instruments that could securitize these loans, slice them into finer and finer risk categories, and spread them out among investors and around the country, as well as around the world. In theory, this should have allowed mortgage lending to be less risky, and more diversified."

      Acknowledging the catastrophe, but as apologist for the Democrats, Obama then offers this justification.

      "The original idea was a good one, which was, lets see if we can distribute risk more broadly, and make it easier to provide loans to people who otherwise might not be able to get one."

      Yah, great idea. Economically unsound, but embraced by Obama. Listen for yourself. You cannot dispute the mans on words recorded live:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
      ???
      And here is Obama again, stating

      "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

      2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

      And here is Obama again in December 2007, promising a role in formulating policy during his transition if elected, despite saying he has no ties to this organization, Acorn

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU


      And here is a link to C-SPAN video clips of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCains attempt at S.190. to fix Fannie and Freddie. See for yourself who said what.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 5:55:35 PM




    Propaganda anyone?

    Some of us built businesses, paid employees, and paid taxes at the highest rate under the Reagan tax structure for well over a decade, and didn't mind or consider those who paid less ignorant, naïve or paying too little.

    Naive is to be afraid of the expiration of the Bush tax give away to the rich, and think that is "raising taxes" that will in any way keep business people from creating and building businesses.

    It's what, before John McCain fell behind in the election, McC called "irresponsible" because it "benefits only the rich???.

    McC now has sold out to the Bush machine that enabled the megarich to loot trillions from our country, while they pay taxes well below what they did under Reagan.

    But worse, McC wants to give additional billions of tax give aways to the oil companies, the one's that just reported the biggest quarterly pofits in the history of the world, breaking the then newest record they set the quarter before.

    Allowing the Bush tax give away to the rich will only allow that give away to expire.

    Only those who make more than $250K AFTER DEDUCTIONS will see their taxes rise back to where they were before the Bush tax give away to the rich.

    The McC/Bush propaganda machine has duped anyone who thinks the McC tax position does anything but further enrich the megarich, and think that is to your benefit.

    The real threat to us is the Bush/McC propaganda machine that misinforms and scares people into voting to perpetuate the looting of our country by the megarich.

    ???Country first??? right? Who do you think the lobbyists running McC???s campaign are looking out for?

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/02/2008 5:40:25 PM

    Obama's Links To Radicals Starting To Surface!! www.newsmax.com/timmer

    Obama-Farrakhan Ties Are Close, Ex-Farrakhan Aide Says

    A former top deputy to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan tells Newsmax that Barack Obama???s ties to the black nationalist movement in Chicago run deep, and that for many years the two men have had ???an open line between them??? to discuss policy and strategy, either directly or through intermediaries.

    ???Remember that for years, if you were a politician in Chicago, you had to have some type of relationship with Louis Farrakhan. You had to. If you didn???t, you would be ostracized out of black Chicago,??? said Dr. Vibert White Jr., who spent most of his adult life as a member and ultimately top officer of the Nation of Islam.
    White broke with the group in 1995 and is now a professor of African-American history at the University of Central Florida in Orlando.
    White said Obama was ???part of the Chicago scene??? where Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. and radicals would go to each other???s events and support each other???s causes.
    ???Even though Chicago is the third-largest city in the country, within the black community, the political and militant nationalist community is very small. So it wouldn???t be uncommon for [Obama and Farrakhan] to show up at events together, or at least be there and communicate with each other,??? White told Newsmax.
    The Anti-Defamation League has denounced Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam as a ???hate group.???
    Farrakhan has called Jews ???bloodsuckers,??? ???satanic??? and accused them of running the slave trade. He has labeled gays as ???degenerates.??? In a 2006 speech, the ADL again condemned Farrakhan when he said: ???These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength. ??? It's the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality. It's wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!"

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/02/2008 4:55:36 PM

    Sarah palin when asked about becoming vp responded

    "As for that VP talk all the time, I tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me, 'what is it exactly that the VP does every day......"

    After she had been the nominee for around 2 months she was asked again and this time said

    [T]hey???re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

    WRONG THE VP IS THERE TO STEP IN IF SOMTHING HAPPENS TO THE PRESIDENT ONLY THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICY AND THEY DONT RUN THE SENATE!!
    If she doenst know what the vice pres or presidant does why would we give her the job

    Mccain has around a 40 percent chance because of his age in not being able to

    complete his term picking palin was about as smart as picking any other mrs Alaska contestant.

    Its not just that we disagree with her answers in alot of cases she doesnt understand basic questions
    like what is the bush doctrine, or what do you read.
    These are not gotcha questions!!!
    One of advisors recently said not only was she unqualified but said mccain picked her after 1 interview of about a hour
    and that even at mcdonalds you get 3 interviews.
    Members of her own campaign called her a diva and a whack job.
    They would know better then anyone else right now.

    So mccain gambled and he lost big. He ended up with a girl that cant answer questions that most of the people reading this can answer.
    at the same time mccain could never read this blog because he cant use a computer at all.
    I mean his wife has 100 million dollars get him classes or something.

    Am i crazy or do we want a computer literate president and a vp who can answer a least basic questions.
    If you read the rest of the articles on this site you would think the world is about to end
    So if thats the case these are the last 2 people you want running anything.
    let send them packing.

    ELECT OBAMA BIDEN NOW

  • Posted By: Vote Now @ 11/02/2008 4:55:24 PM

    Sarah palin when asked about becoming vp responded

    "As for that VP talk all the time, I tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me, 'what is it exactly that the VP does every day......"

    Around a week ago she was asked again and this time said

    They in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

    WRONG THE VP IS THERE TO STEP IN IF SOMTHING HAPPENS TO THE PRESIDENT ONLY THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICY AND THEY DONT RUN THE SENATE!!

    If she doenst understand the job why would we give her the job

    Mccain has around a 40 percent chance because of his age in not being able to
    As many as half the people between 72 and 76 are disabled or die
    Hopefully mccain would be the exception but picking palin was about as smart as picking any other mrs Alaska contestant.
    Thanks for making sure the rest of us are ok if something happens to you John
    America cant take the chance of being run by someone that cant understand basic issues
    NOT RIGHT NOW
    Its not just that we disagree with her answers in alot of cases she doesnt understand basic questions
    like what is the bush doctrine, or what do you read. She falls apart if you ask a follow question she hasnt memorized
    These are not gotcha questions!!!
    One of advisors recently said not only was she unqualified but said mccain picked her after 1 interview of about a hour
    and that even at mcdonalds you get 3 interviews.
    Members of her own campaign called her a diva and a whack job.
    They would know better then anyone else right now.

    So mccain gambled and he lost big. He ended up with a girl without a clue
    But whats interesting is the top of the ticket could never disagree with what i am saying
    because mccain could never read this blog he cant use a computer at all.
    So hopefully fixing the economy would not require research or email
    I mean his wife has 100 million dollars get him classes or something.

    Am i crazy or do we want a computer literate president and a vp who can answer a least basic questions.
    If you read the rest of the articles on this site you would think the world is about to end
    So if thats the case these are the last 2 people you want running anything.
    lets send them packing.

    ELECT OBAMA BIDEN NOW

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 4:39:22 PM

    Propaganda anyone?

    Some of us built businesses, paid employees, and paid taxes at the highest rate under the Reagan tax structure for well over a decade, and didn't mind or consider those who paid less ignorant, naïve or paying too little.

    Naive is to be afraid of the expiration of the Bush tax give away to the rich, and think that is "raising taxes" that will in any way keep business people from creating and building businesses.

    It's just what, before John McCain fell behind in the election, McC called "irresponsible" because it "benefits only the rich???.

    McC now has sold out to the Bush machine that enabled the megarich to loot trillions from our country, while they pay taxes well below what they did under Reagan.

    But worse, McC wants to give additional billions of tax give aways to the oil companies, the one's that just reported the biggest quarterly pofits in the history of the world, breaking the then newest record they set the quarter before.

    The McC/Bush propaganda machine has duped anyone who thinks the McC tax position does anything but further enrich the megarich, and think that is to your benefit.

    The real threat to us is the Bush/McC propaganda machine that misinforms and scares people into voting to perpetuate the looting of our country by the megarich.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 3:52:27 PM


    "Nowforthetruth" is now selling guilt by association that Obama has PLO buddies referring to Rashid Khalidi. McCain donated $440k to Khalidi.

    See for yourselves at: http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    "Nowforthetruth", a little more "truth" about guilt by association....

    "Nowforthetruth" also said: "Nins, all you prove is that you have perpetual PMS and cannot read. If you are as careless in your practice, you are a danger to your profession." You reveal too much of yourself "Nowforthetruth".

    "Nowforthetruth" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people. "Nowforthetruth" continues to repeat well known deceit.

    Alan Greenspan stated recently that the problem was not anything like that. Rather, he stated that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation, and "we trusted" these self-interested looters to regulate themselves. Credit Default Swaps were the result.

    Credit Default Swaps increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under the R stewardship. No regulation.

    While there are several variations of a viral email that tries to blame a few thousands of political donations to some Ds, the actual, legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to Republican lobbyists to lobby Rs, only, to PREVENT REGULATION.

    McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to present, to lobby Rs,only, against regulation. Freddie paid Rick Davis while he has been McC's campaign manager. Freddie donated $250k to the R convention.

    These facts are everywhere in the legitimate news: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1 There's much more legitimate news on this.

    Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. It is inescapable that the Rs, most prominently McC's campaign manager, were in the pockets of big money while they drove the buss off the cliff with us in it.

    You can try to distract people with fears about 'those guys'. Lies, distortion, deception. 'Socialist' is only the last in a long, now desperate, list of labels you have tried to pin on 'that one'. That's all you have left.

    Is your most recent reposting here directed to fears about "Socialism", or is it just innuendo, or are we trying to fold in a little racism too?

    Since we have no more ideas, let's keep running our campaign on fear, smears and hypocrisy.

    Keep talking "Nowforthetruth", you're really helping. You keep demonstrating that we all have to vote against lies and propaganda and attempts to hijack our political process with deceit. Your actions are the kinds of reasons that I'm voting for Obama after 40 years of never having voted for a Dem.

    A 40 year republican

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/02/2008 4:36:17 PM

      Without getting longwinded,we can accurately chart all of the Democrats in Congress and their presidential candidate that are in bed with the ''interests'' right here.

      The Center For Responsive Politics www.opensecrets.org [Pick,any Democrat,and you will find ''Corporation'',''Interests''s and ''Lobbyist''dwelling therein. Do not fall for the lies perpetrated that there will be a New Day. Obviously,you were promised this in 2006.....
      ...but things got worse.Not better.

  • Posted By: ObamaYesWeCan @ 11/02/2008 4:35:36 PM

    This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

    Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

    ...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

    Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

    After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

    Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

    http://obamaoursavior.blogspot.com

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/02/2008 3:53:13 PM

    Sarah takes all the money she can from federal tax earmarks, hires a lobbyist to get more, and repeatedly tells the electorate that she told Congress "no thanks" on The Bridge To Nowhere, but in fact she took the federal tax funds that were earmarked for it.

    She wasn't distributing federal tax funds, 'cause she put THOSE FEDERAL TAX FUNDS into a DIFFERENT POCKET from the pocket from the funds she distributed to Alaskans.

    I bet those federal tax funds she didn't REDISTRIBUTE are actually different dollars than the ones I paid for federal taxes.

    A lot of the money she distributed came from her raising taxes on the oil companies. The oil companies had to recoup those higher taxes through higher gas prices. I'm also certain that none of the dollars I spent for higher gas prices, were included in the dollars Sarah redistributed to Alaskans.

    And since she gave those dollars to all Alaskans, it's not true that she took money from some and gave it to others.

    I see. That's really, really, really different, now that I understand. According to "Nowforthetruth" that's not REDISTRIBUTION, that's capitalism.

    I see...

    Propaganda anyone?

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/02/2008 2:27:24 PM

    What does redistributive mean. Well, remember that it was the Left-Wing of the Supreme Court that brought us this little jewel, holding that the government could take your real property, like your home, not for public use, but to give to another private individual, such as a political contributor or other party hack or interest group.

    Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005), was a case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States involving the use of eminent domain to transfer land from one private owner to another to further economic development. The case arose from the condemnation by New London, Connecticut, of privately owned real property so that it could be used as part of a comprehensive redevelopment plan. The Court held in a 5-4 decision that the general benefits a community enjoyed from economic growth qualified such redevelopment plans as a permissible "public use" under the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the majority opinion; he was joined by Justices Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer

    The decision was widely criticized by American politicians and the general public. Many members of the general public viewed the outcome as a gross violation of property rights and as a misinterpretation of the Fifth Amendment, the consequence of which would be to benefit large corporations at the expense of individual homeowners and local communities. Some in the legal profession construe the public's outrage as being directed not at the interpretation of legal principles involved in the case, but at the broad moral principles of the general outcome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

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