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No matter who wins the presidential election on Nov. 4, U.S. spy agencies worry that the intelligence community could be big losers, with heads rolling either way. Sources close to both campaigns did little to assuage those fears, suggesting that top intel officials

—including CIA Director Michael Hayden—are likely to be replaced and that the United States' new intel apparatus, created in response to 9/11 failures, still has a long way to go.

Sen. John McCain favors more dramatic change than Sen. Barack Obama. Several government officials, who asked for anonymity when discussing sensitive matters, said they expect a President McCain would purge not only Hayden but also his two top deputies. McCain's plans for the rest of the agency could be even more sweeping. According to little-noticed comments he made last year, McCain has mulled effectively dismantling the CIA and replacing it with a new covert-ops outfit patterned on the OSS of World War II: "A small, nimble, can-do organization," he said, that "could take risks that our bureaucracies today rarely consider taking." Campaign spokesman Brian Rogers told NEWSWEEK that McCain "hasn't talked about personnel at all, and has not gone into details" about his CIA plans.

An Obama spokeswoman declined to comment on his plans. But sources close to the campaign's transition apparatus, who also asked for anonymity, said Obama would prefer to tweak, rather than remake, the intel system. Obama is being advised on intel matters by former senior CIA officials, at least one of whom, John Brennan, is rumored as a possible future CIA director; for intel czar, Obama has been looking at former four-star military officers. Hayden, himself a retired four-star general, would consider staying on if asked, though some Democrats believe he was a too-vigorous defender of controversial Bush administration policies.

Inside the various agencies, trepidation is widespread. "The last thing American intelligence needs is another shake-up," one of the anonymous officials said, noting that the previous reshuffle "is barely two years old. It's still shaking out, and it can be made to work better than it does now--without using a chain saw."

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  • Posted By: gfbum @ 11/16/2008 7:04:28 AM

    Of course you will show us all the evidence you have gsosbee? Nope, didn't think so. And welcome to the show be careful who you say God Bless Us all, many of those who voted for Obama don't like that.

  • Posted By: gsosbee @ 11/12/2008 4:34:40 PM



    I call for a new Nuremberg Trial to hold individuals of the FBI, CIA, former presidents of the United States of America, members of Congress, Judges, etc. responsible for crimes against Humanity and other high crimes and misdemeanors. Consistent with the rules of the International Military Tribunal a crime against Humanity is defined as:
    "Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during...war; or persecution on political, racial, or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated."
    Note that crimes against peace are included in the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, even when crimes against Humanity are committed during times of peace.
    Note that the FBI and the CIA routinely torture, kill, falsely imprison, or force suicide upon the targeted individuals globally, as I have documented in my reports. I am witness to the fact that the FBI and the CIA inhumanely and regularly torture the targeted person and also force him/her to live under horrific conditions that could reasonably be expected to lead to suicide even while the FBI and the CIA agents and operatives watch and record same.
    All United States leaders who participated in the criminal organizations of the fbi and the cia, with respect to torture, false imprisonment, forced suicide, and other atrocities (such as non-consensual human medical experimentation) must stand trial as war criminals, or for crimes against Humanity and crimes against Peace.
    The modern day equivalents of Josef Mengele, Klaus Barbie, Joseph Goebbels and Herman Goering (all of the Nazi Party) who in the United States participated in the crimes against Humanity will be identified and tried for their crimes. Names such as Freeh, Rice, Bush, Cheney, Tenet, Gates, Cornyn, Clinton,etc. will become synonymous with the names of their German Nazi counterparts of the 1930s.

  • Posted By: gsosbee @ 11/12/2008 4:33:07 PM



    I call for a new Nuremberg Trial to hold individuals of the FBI, CIA, former presidents of the United States of America, members of Congress, Judges, etc. responsible for crimes against Humanity and other high crimes and misdemeanors. Consistent with the rules of the International Military Tribunal a crime against Humanity is defined as:
    "Murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during...war; or persecution on political, racial, or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated."
    Note that crimes against peace are included in the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, even when crimes against Humanity are committed during times of peace.Political, military and economics leaders, as well as propaganda directors in the government and in the mainstream media are subject to indictment for crimes against Humanity. The operatives of the fbi and the cia who carried out psychoelectronic (and related psychological operations against human beings) will have a front role seat as defendants at the trial; they will be particularly identified and exposed for their decades long involvement in atrocities.
    All fbi and cia directors are to be tried; all presidents who condoned or covered up the crimes will be held liable. All Secretaries of State, Defense, any other agency (such as FDA, HHS, DOJ) which carried out atrocities committed by the fbi and the cia will be held accountable.
    All culpable medical and dental doctors will be tried alongside their Handlers, and government agents. All other persons, identified by a thorough and objective investigation, who aided or covered up the atrocities will be called to answer for their crimes against Humanity.

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