The Silent Issue

Experience is only pertinent when it is combined with good judgement. McCain's poor judgement has been apparent since the day in Vietnam when he heard the warning bell that a missile was on his tail. Instead of diving and rolling like he was trained to do, he stayed on course and got shot down. McCain's poor judgement is on display again now, in his choice of Palin as running mate. Both of these cases were "maverick" judgement. And in both cases, the cowboy maverick bet wrong.

I'm repulsed by Obama and his socialist ideas. He is for killing babies, even ones that have been born while trying to abort. Doesn't that make them babies, even by the extreme liberal standards? And what did he say to justify that? They're just "temporarily" alive. Aren't we all as humans, "temporarily" alive? And to everyone who's going to get defense at the "socialism" word I threw out there; I have lived under dictatorship and communism. I have had many family members killed by unjust and corrupt officials. Obama's socialist ideas come straight out of marxism. What happened when Russia tried socialism? Millions were killed and their entire economy was destroyed. The German's tried it and the same thing happened to them. Wisen up people. Bar divine intervention, Obama is going to win this election. And why is he going to win? Because of liberal sorry excuses of human life that have it so good in America, all they do is whine and complain about every little thing. I stand by Bush and the war. Remember after the terrorists attacked us at 9/11? No one said no to war then. In fact we didn't even rush into the war. It took us over a year to finally do it. I was not born in America but I came here a number of years ago. I love this country more than any other in the world, it is truly the best place to live but I am concerned, to say the least, about our future if Obama becomes our next president. My prayers tonight will be that God help and protect this country in whatever manner he chooses to do so. I will also be voting in the morning. We will soon know what we have to deal with...

thourlon.... you suggest we move on from abortion topics. Perhaps the new topic will include euthanasia of anyone cripped, or old, or slightly imperfect ......
When a Presidential CANDIDATE is VEHEMENTLY AGAINST resuscitation of a child who LIVES a PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTION, then I consider that ''NEWSWORTHY'' and subject for discussion.
He seems to have a strange detachment for the ''meek'', which is suggested by his voting RECORD.

I'm a Christian, and I've actually bothered to read the Bible. From the old testament prophets to the most overtly hell-threatening statements of Jesus; condemnation is always greatest against those who have who ignore, not just overtly oppress, the poor and needy. But the Fundamentalist movement doesn't care about the poor and oppressed. They care about power and destroying anyone different from themselves. So they doctored up this lie about protecting fetuses, and now cells. This allows even their more moral followers to feel like their actually serving good, while all the while voting in fascist theocracy, war-mongers and stripping the poor and minorities of all protection. God gave each one of us reason and a conscience. Mindlessly voting anti-choice willfullly rejects the first and shows an appalling lack of the second.

Do these people know that making abortion illegal will not prevent it? The rates of abortion in countries were it is illegal are as high as or even higher than US, especially in third world countries. Add to this the deaths of many women because the unsanitary conditions and their children who are then left orphans because their mothers had an abortion in clandestine centers or were so desperate they did it themselves using horrifying measures. As a Christian and pro-life mother I wish that it would be as easy as electing a President that condemns abortion. Even if he could make it illegal, which is most likely not the case, it will only take the issue out of our sight and control rather than fixing it. It will be dealt as the other social problems we pretend to ignore, prostitution, illegal drugs, etc. I support Barack Obama because he demonstrated that he understands that women don???t come to that decision easily. It would be better if we Christians stop using religion to condemn others and instead spread more love around and really help this country be a better place were women can have opportunities to make better decisions.

This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

Do these people know that making abortion illegal will not prevent it? The rates of abortion in countries were it is illegal are as high as or even higher than US, especially in third world countries. Add to this the deaths of many women because the unsanitary conditions and their children who are then left orphans because their mothers had an abortion in clandestine centers or were so desperate they did it themselves using horrifying measures. As a Christian and pro-life mother I wish that it would be as easy as electing a President that condemns abortion. Even if he could make it illegal, which is most likely not the case, it will only take the issue out of our sight and control rather than fixing it. It will be dealt as the other social problems we pretend to ignore, prostitution, illegal drugs, etc. I support Barack Obama because he demonstrated that he understands that women don???t come to that decision easily. It would be better if we Christians stop using religion to condemn others and instead spread more love around and really help this country be a better place were women can have opportunities to make better decisions.

It's because just like Bush, McCain wouldn't do anything about it. R v. W will never be over turned and I couldn't be happier about it. I warms my heart to see religious ideals crushed under the heel of logic and reason.

not-fooled-by-slick-talking-charlatans ..... Yes, you are correct. Not everyone is fit to be a parent, nor does one need to reproduce for a fulfilling life. That is not in question, nor is the fact that there is forced entry in much of life and this could perhaps be a case of one of those.
However, there are many answers for that comment, and I think, unless you live in a tree, are well aware of all of them, so there is no need for that here.
What does need addressed, however, is the thoughts projected on this page from people who believe that it is ''optional'' at ''any time'', making it not only TRENDY, but ACCEPTABLE.
Not so.
I will say again what you may not have seen earlier posted: perhaps at some point you become debilitated, age-ravaged or deemed otherwise unsuitable by a government which is TOTALLY and EXCLUSIVELY LIBERAL in its decisions -- President, Congress, Senate, Supreme Court. If this type of legislation decides to ABORT YOU -- or otherwise euthanise YOUR body -- will you then believe in ''freedom of choice'', ''our law'' and will you ''accept'' their decision?
Any logical person will give the obvious answer and be horrified that it is NOT optional.
People need to THINK about this.

I am vehemently pro-life, but I am TIRED of this debate. I understand that most people in America don't agree with me, and I realize that the MOST we can hope for is getting Roe overturned, which probably won't result in outlawing abortions. Sure, some states will outlaw it, but many others won't. It would take a constitutional amendment to ban abortion nationwide, and that just isn't going to happen. We won the 2nd amendment argument, but we lost this one. Time to move on.