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Closing Arguments: Obama

With the finish line in sight, Obama serves up familiar, pie-in-the-sky promises.

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  • Posted By: wiseowl2 @ 11/06/2008 2:17:17 PM

    If laws had not been passed aimed at blacks, we probably would not have a beef. I t isn't white people because all white people didn't think the way the racist did. Blacks was help in the struggle for equality by white people, who suffered athe hands of racist. We blame segregationist laws. These things had to be throught up and passed for a reason. We finally got to one man one vote and see where it take you. I don't think they had Jim-Crow after Israel left Egypt. We had Jim-Crow I know. Lets move on America,this man may help us in the world so we don't need to worry about the call , remember the 60's didn't feel too good. We weren't in the government at that time. Black police partrol b y foot in the blavk community. The white could anywhere. This is a new day now, lets move on leaving old thing behind and press on to a higher call.
    "God Bless America" I sang in school durning Jim-Crow, we can sang the same song today. The Jew was special because God made them special, special for times to come

  • Posted By: momintx' @ 11/05/2008 4:47:26 PM

    I did not vote for obama due to his inexperience not because of his color. Still, i am not upset that he won just because he wasn't my choice. I woke up this morning and thought: so, i didn't get my way but look at the bright side. Now that we as a nation have elected a black president, i hope we never EVER have to hear how the "white man" is keeping the "black man" down. The voters have spoken, and he unquestionably won, and that is what i love about democracy. So now, if you don't have the lifestyle that you want, you have to go it yourself and stop blaming the white people. No one is keeping anyone down ANYMORE, now everyone has to be accountable. If you are "kept down" its your own fault. I for one am relieved that it is no longer going to be blamed on my ancestors for the failure of others....

    • Posted By: hepinger @ 11/05/2008 10:50:44 PM

      Amen sista...im tired of people being prejudice to white people, the past is the past and we should be moving on. If we're all equal then why should their be black history month or any of that crap that just honors their nationality . If you really go back in time it was the Egyptians who were the first slaves, talks about it in the Bible...or what about what the jews had to go through? They dont have a special month to honor them...its getting rediculous. And im sure a lot of people voted for Obama b/c they felt they had to or they were racist! It really upsets me that people and the gov't cause this segregation!

  • Posted By: ObamaYesWeCan @ 11/03/2008 7:51:43 PM

    This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

    Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

    ...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

    Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

    After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

    Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

    • Posted By: hepinger @ 11/05/2008 10:46:37 PM

      its people like you that are causing America and our morals to fail....so typical and iggnorant...just look how you talk about people.

  • Posted By: sissyt @ 11/05/2008 11:08:11 AM

    you people just don't get it, you have to find something wrong, obama is a man, a politician, but he is apart of an idea, an ideal for many who aren't white, get a grip, get a clue, get over yourselves already and get with the program of living, you people will never move on, Lead by example yourselves. stop complaining and do something useful. as far as is goes for the journalist too who wrote this peice, w rite something we all can use and stop pandering to the wack jobs out there.

  • Posted By: JasonLee5 @ 11/05/2008 3:10:14 AM

    A minority led government has no democratic authority to govern. The next scam is to claim to be a government authority. It does not matter how this happened. Soon there will be no legitimate government.

  • Posted By: onepunchkid @ 11/04/2008 5:56:09 PM

    No matter who wins, AMERICA and the rest of the WORLD will be much better off.

  • Posted By: onepunchkid @ 11/04/2008 5:53:40 PM

    No matter who wins, AMERICA and the rest of the world will be far better off.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/04/2008 12:16:41 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I did not vote for Obama.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/04/2008 11:12:16 AM

    In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

    Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx


    The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
    Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/04/2008 10:04:11 AM

    Obama's plan for jobs on Pennsylvania, West Virginia and other coal producting states, and Obama's plan for dealing with the high cost of energy, including electricity generation.

    An audiotape of an interview Barack Obama did in January 2008 with The San Francisco Chronicle has surfaced in the final days of the presidential campaign. On the tape Obama tells the interviewer how he will use environmenal laws to kill the Coal industry,

    "so if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can ... It's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."

    Also says he's policy will cause price of electricity to skyrocket.

    Now, why would Obama say that in San Francisco and not Pennsylvania? We've seen him do that before, right? Something about guns and religion.

    And why did Newsweek take their story on the Pennsylvania campaign down Sunday after this story broke?

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 11:15:29 PM

    The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 10:02:08 PM

    In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

    Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx


    The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
    Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 11/03/2008 9:42:29 PM

    The McCain Campaign:

    John McCain has proven himself in this campaign to be an angry low road politician who failed miserably to show himself to be a fair and decent individual, with the stature to rise to the Office of the Presidency. And, as for Palin? What great judgement.

    Leading a campaign that (even though major news orgs constantly debunked his ads) almost exclusively resorted to the constant barrage of outright lies, distortions, and the sleaziest of attack ads. Showing himself, instead, to be a little man, he displays a nasty, divisive and confrontational attitude with limited vision and dimension of thinking. He is minimally accomplished as a statesman and, as shown by his own actions, is conspicuously absent of the temperament and the diplomatic and leadership skills necessary to adequately represent and lead this nation in promoting international respect and cooperation on the future world stage.

    The United States can do much better than John McCain, On Tuesday, I am betting a majority of the nation will agree.

  • Posted By: dandist @ 11/03/2008 9:12:41 PM

    His medical plan does not "lower premiums by $2,500" or any number, it's a conceptual idea that the government will save money and then pass it on to consumers as lowered premiums. Yea, that's something you can believe in. Obama HOPES that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and other government programs the government will save money to the equivalent of $2500 for a family of four. That's his program. You're trusting that an efficiently working government program will save money and then pass it all on to you???

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 11/03/2008 7:18:07 PM

    All the nationally recognized economists have EXPLAINED, over and over....that IF, Osama is elected, we will be facing not a recession, but a full blown DEPRESSION....his plans don't match up with the money...and that is in any place a recipe for a disaster...First the taxes on small business will put millions out of jobs, and NOW we discover that Osama is planning the hijack our coal mining industry???? The problem IS that people are NOT LISTENING....they are caught up in the mania sweeping this land...it has been CLEAR to people with ears and logic....that this person is not going to be a solution, but will be a HUGE LIABILITY to the wellbeing of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.. McCain/Palin '08

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 7:08:28 PM

    ???Nowforsomethingotherthanthetruth??? exemplifies the measures employed by the McCain campaign starting with the anonymous smear emails that began when McC hired the Bush propaganda machine.

    This deception campaign tries to benefit from party loyalties. It preys upon hate, prejudice and fear, and on the ???unanswered questions??? fabricated by the anonymous emails this campaign perpetrated. Links to debunks of many of those fabrications are in an earlier posting.

    This is by far the greatest extreme ever in American politics. It is a fundamental threat to our political process. It would further entrench the Bush operatives who took over the McC campaign, and the republican lobbyists who represent only the megarich who looted our economy.

    McC was a maverick. He promised to root out the lobbyists he said are what???s wrong with Washington. He said he would not take the low road employed by the Bush machine when it smeared him. He sold out when he got behind and subscribed to the ideology that the end justifies the means.

    McC would continue the Bush tax give away to the rich that McC previously opposed and called ???irresponsible??? because ???it only benefits the rich.???

    McC now wants to give more billions in tax give aways to oil companies that have just reported the largest profits in history for two consecutive quarters, while he claims that lowering taxes for everyone under $250k in after-deduction income will somehow keep businessmen from starting businesses.

    ???Nowfor??? has employed many of the themes in the anonymous viral emails. He recently said it was ???revealed that Obama has PLO buddies??? referring to Rashid Khalidi to whom McC donated $440k:

    http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html Guilt by association.

    "Nowfor" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people.

    Alan Greenspan said the cause is that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation; "we trusted" these self-interested looters ???to regulate themselves???. Credit Default Swaps resulted. They increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under R stewardship.

    The legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to McC's campaign manager, Rick Davis, who received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to while he has been McC's campaign manager.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1

    Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. The Rs, including McC's campaign manager, are in the pockets of big money.

    Without solutions, it is necessary to campaign with deception, misdirection, fear, smears, hypocrisy.

    Attempts to hijack our political process with deceit and abuse of the trust of party loyalties are reasons I'm voting for Obama after 40 years of never voted for a Dem.

    A 40

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 7:08:01 PM

    With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources. Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

    Where Obama was born and his birth certificate: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Rezko: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

    Ayers: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

    Rashid Kahlidi: http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23 and McCain???s donations to him http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

    Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

    Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

    How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

    Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

    NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

    Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

    Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

    Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

    Context Included: Obama on Iran
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

    Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    Other purported quotes from Obama???s books: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

    Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

    Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

    50 Obama lies and counting
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

    The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies
    http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21


    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 6:16:38 PM

    Obama???s plan for jobs on Pennsylvania, Virginia , West Virginia , Kentucky, Tennessee, and other states, and Obama???s plan for dealing with the high cost of energy, including electricity generation.

    An audiotape of an interview Barack Obama did in January 2008 with The San Francisco Chronicle has surfaced in the final days of the presidential campaign. On the tape Obama tells the interviewer, ???so if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can ??? It???s just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."

    Now, why would Obama say that in San Francisco and not Pennsylvania?

    And why did Newsweek take their story on the Pennsylvania campaign down yesterday after this story broke?

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