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  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 9:58:18 PM

    In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

    "And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

    2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

    Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.
    See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

    Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

    See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

    Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml
    And
    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx


    The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related
    Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE
    Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 11/03/2008 9:54:26 PM

    The McCain Campaign:

    John McCain has proven himself in this campaign to be an angry low road politician who failed miserably to show himself to be a fair and decent individual, with the stature to rise to the Office of the Presidency. And, as for Palin? What great judgement.

    Leading a campaign that (even though major news orgs constantly debunked his ads) almost exclusively resorted to the constant barrage of outright lies, distortions, and the sleaziest of attack ads. Showing himself, instead, to be a little man, he displays a nasty, divisive and confrontational attitude with limited vision and dimension of thinking. He is minimally accomplished as a statesman and, as shown by his own actions, is conspicuously absent of the temperament and the diplomatic and leadership skills necessary to adequately represent and lead this nation in promoting international respect and cooperation on the future world stage.

    The United States can do much better than John McCain, On Tuesday, I am betting a majority of the nation will agree.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 11/03/2008 7:40:36 PM

    McCain abandoning Michigan is the ultimate in cut-and-run tactics. I wouldn't have believed it of the old John McCain, but this one is obviously a tired old man.

    • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 11/03/2008 9:38:56 PM

      Dunno. Obama pulled out of North Dakota and he is not ''old''.

  • Posted By: ObamaYesWeCan @ 11/03/2008 8:04:55 PM

    This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

    Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

    ...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

    Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

    After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

    Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 7:59:40 PM

    Alaska Personal Board report out today finds no violation by Governor Palin.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live_asx.html?stream=stream3

  • Posted By: swalexander2000 @ 11/03/2008 7:50:08 PM

    It does not make me feel any better that in 4 years when we are all paying more taxes, inflation has skyrocketed, and even more jobs have gone overseas, I will be able to say "I told you so"

  • Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth @ 11/03/2008 7:48:22 PM

    Alaska Personal Board report out today finds no violation by Governor Palin.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live_asx.html?stream=stream3

  • Posted By: websmith @ 11/03/2008 7:38:59 PM

    Congratulations.

    You are about to elect a President who will give you a bigger government and more spending. Your new President will give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, drastically increase the number of H-1B visas, and eliminate E-verify at a time when millions of American Citizens are out of work. Your new Commander in Chief will keep American soldiers in Iraq against your will. Your new Chief Executive will borrow, spend, give away, and waste billions of dollars when the national debt is passing $12 trillion. Against your wishes your new President helped Bush give $1 trillion to the banks as his parting gift. No matter how much you object, Public Servant Number One will not listen and will continue to implement his own agenda. It doesn't matter if it's McCain or Obama.

    http://ewebsmith.com/Finance/notlistening.html

  • Posted By: websmith @ 11/03/2008 7:38:34 PM

    Congratulations.

    You are about to elect a President who will give you a bigger government and more spending. Your new President will give amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, drastically increase the number of H-1B visas, and eliminate E-verify at a time when millions of American Citizens are out of work. Your new Commander in Chief will keep American soldiers in Iraq against your will. Your new Chief Executive will borrow, spend, give away, and waste billions of dollars when the national debt is passing $12 trillion. Against your wishes your new President helped Bush give $1 trillion to the banks as his parting gift. No matter how much you object, Public Servant Number One will not listen and will continue to implement his own agenda. It doesn't matter if it's McCain or Obama.

    http://ewebsmith.com/Finance/notlistening.html

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/03/2008 7:00:02 PM

    ???Nowforsomethingotherthanthetruth??? exemplifies the measures employed by the McCain campaign starting with the anonymous smear emails that began when McC hired the Bush propaganda machine.

    This deception campaign tries to benefit from party loyalties. It preys upon hate, prejudice and fear, and on the ???unanswered questions??? fabricated by the anonymous emails this campaign perpetrated. Links to debunks of many of those fabrications are in an earlier posting.

    This is by far the greatest extreme ever in American politics. It is a fundamental threat to our political process. It would further entrench the Bush operatives who took over the McC campaign, and the republican lobbyists who represent only the megarich who looted our economy.

    McC was a maverick. He promised to root out the lobbyists he said are what???s wrong with Washington. He said he would not take the low road employed by the Bush machine when it smeared him. He sold out when he got behind and subscribed to the ideology that the end justifies the means.

    McC would continue the Bush tax give away to the rich that McC previously opposed and called ???irresponsible??? because ???it only benefits the rich.???

    McC now wants to give more billions in tax give aways to oil companies that have just reported the largest profits in history for two consecutive quarters, while he claims that lowering taxes for everyone under $250k in after-deduction income will somehow keep businessmen from starting businesses.

    ???Nowfor??? has employed many of the themes in the anonymous viral emails. He recently said it was ???revealed that Obama has PLO buddies??? referring to Rashid Khalidi to whom McC donated $440k:

    http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html Guilt by association.

    "Nowfor" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people.

    Alan Greenspan said the cause is that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation; "we trusted" these self-interested looters ???to regulate themselves???. Credit Default Swaps resulted. They increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under R stewardship.

    The legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to McC's campaign manager, Rick Davis, who received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to while he has been McC's campaign manager.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1

    Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. The Rs, including McC's campaign manager, are in the pockets of big money.

    Without solutions, it is necessary to campaign with deception, misdirection, fear, smears, hypocrisy.

    Attempts to hijack our political process with deceit and abuse of the trust of party loyalties are reasons I'm voting for Obama after 40 years of never voted for a Dem.

    A 40

  • Posted By: swalexander2000 @ 11/03/2008 6:16:40 PM

    But by the time the executioner??s guns went silent, the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time "the change" was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. Luckily, we in America would never fall for a young leader who promised change without asking, "what change?" Would we?

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 11/03/2008 6:35:04 PM

      No, we wouldn't and we haven't. The republican's had eight years to make their mark, and they did - unfortunately, it was all bad. The people are tired of the republican agenda of hate, fear and exclusion. And now they are going to pay the price.

      Ironically, I think the majority of republicans are decent, moderate people - but they have let a minority from the far right hijack their party. This defeat is probably the best thing that could ever happen to the republican party and this country. Perhaps now the moderates in the party can take back control. Then they will once again be the party that I voted for 20 years ago but cannot vote for today.

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