Palin's 2012 Playbook

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  • Posted By: Omaar @ 11/06/2008 10:31:24 AM

    Turnout : The Diversed Demographic an how obama brought them all Together.

    by DemFromCT

    Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 05:13:54 PM PST

    The kids really are alright. And not just the kids showed up.

    First Read links to the voter-eligible population expert, Michael McDonald from George Mason University, who notes that the turnout percentage is awesome:

    Provided the number stands, the turnout rate for yesterday's election was the highest in 100 years, according to the estimate from turnout guru Dr. Michael McDonald at George Mason University. Almost 137 million (136,631,825) went to the polls -- 64.1% of the voting-eligible population. 1960 saw 63.7% of the populace go out to vote; In 1908, 65.7% voted. It was, of course, the most people ever to go to the polls topping 2004's 122 million. That's 12% increase from 2004.

    For those wondering why the current total vote in the presidential adds up to approximately 117 million, note that it's going to climb. There is still a ton of vote missing on the West coast.

    However, it's not clear how big the total will be.

    Curtis Gans, director of the nonpartisan Committee for the Study of the American Electorate at American University and dean of turnout experts, said his early numbers show 2008 to be about equal to or better than 1964, but not higher than 1960. He said it looks like total votes, once absentees are tallied (which could take a day or so), will be "somewhere between 134 and 135 million."

    That's still the highest turnout in 40 years percentage wise (it was 60.1 of the voter-eligible population in 2004, and you have to go back to 1968 to get a figure that's at least 60%.)

    From Prof. McDonald (more complete data here):

    1960 63.8
    1964 62.8
    1968 62.5
    1972 56.2
    1976 54.8
    1980 54.2
    1984 55.2
    1988 52.8
    1992 58.1
    1996 51.7
    2000 54.2
    2004 60.1

    We commented this morning on the changing demographics ( less fewer whites.) In 2000, the exit polls put whites at 81%.



    Maybe McCain's campaign would have worked better in 2000. Maybe what thwarted it was this:

    There is a chance that American turnout will match or surpass the 1960 turnout, and if it does, that will mean approximately 136 million people voted. That raw number will be the most people who have ever voted in an American election.

    Welcome to the 21st Century.

  • Posted By: Breezy2 @ 11/06/2008 9:54:04 AM

    StellaZ: I agree with you. While Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others attempted to do what they did to get Bush elected, they tried it again and it did not work. The more they attempted to demonize Obama, it caused people to really take a look and him and to see that he indeed was not what he was being protrayed. Pailin should stay way up there in Alaska and continue looking over there toward Russia. I do not understand how she got elected as governor. Maybe the voters up there should be more cautious in the future.

    • Posted By: wcmartin @ 11/06/2008 10:31:03 AM

      Your assessment is inaccurate...the non-partisans who flocked to Obama did so out of emotion, not agreement with who he was or what he represented. Obama garnered the votes of many who were voting against something, rather than voting for something. At the same time, McCain overwhelmingly took the undecided vote, those who took a more logical approach to voting and decided that there were too many things about Obama that they were not comfortable with. Obama is a leftist in his policy beliefs, but if he governs from the left, he will be dooming his party. This country is still center right and Obama must ensure does not misunderstand the election results.

  • Posted By: think4yourself @ 11/06/2008 10:29:18 AM

    Palin 2012!

    STILL LOVE HER!
    STILL RESPECT HER!

    CANT WAIT TO SEE MORE OF HER :)

  • Posted By: J.Richter @ 11/06/2008 10:27:51 AM

    If Obama had given one interview ever slightly close to Palin's he would have been skewered especially as a blackman. He had to be as substantive or more substantive than even McCain. If anything he allowed himself to think online. He took on O'Reilly and the surge. He discussed and analyzed Warren court decisions from the 60s as a constitutional law expert (while Palin could not simply mention a Supreme court case she disagreed with talk less discuss it). He spoke out on the build up to the Iraq war as a state legislator saying he was not against all wars but dumbe wars and itemized ways things could go wrong. We have no history of hearing from Palin on weighty forpo issues. This was no double standard, gotcha, media bias anything. Even we christian conservatives do not want to be represented by a know nothing to put it nicely or a moron that we like.

  • Posted By: izme @ 11/06/2008 8:47:22 AM

    The media has missed their opportunity to report on the historical fact that TWO women campaigned for the two highest positions in the US. Senator Hillary Clinton and Govennor Sarah Palin placed themselves at the mercy of the American public and asked America to consider them for President and Vice President of the United States of America.To my disappointment, the entertainment media and news media chose to violate these wonderful role models' human rights and instead of placing a veil over their faces to humiliate, silence and intimidate, theychose the method of broadcasting their faces on tv and insulting them, humilitating them, and abusing them both mentally and emotionally for all to see. Our nation may have come a long way in electing a black MALE president, but we missed a great opportunity to "walk the walk" of displaying women's human rights to the world.

    • Posted By: StellaZ @ 11/06/2008 9:36:37 AM

      UMMMM..........

      Didn't Sarah Palin make the choice herself to go on Saturday Night Live and allow herself to be parodied?

      As a woman, I refuse to cast either Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin to be cast as victims to explain their loss in their campaigns. John McCain and Barack Obama were comically portrayed in numerous ways in the entertainment. John McCain's age was the source of many jokes as were Barack Obama's speaking style and facial features.

      To blame their failure to succeed in this election on 'sexism' is to hold them to a different standard of accountability than you would give a man. That itself is 'sexist.'

  • Posted By: alaskagal3 @ 11/05/2008 9:56:33 PM

    Gov. Palin's bravery in running as Vice President is to be commended. I am impressed by her forthrightness, her convictions and her values. I would expect her to put her nose to the grindstone and learn foreign policy, and get plugged in to the nationwide political arena, if she wants to run again in 2012. She is brilliant. You snobs who make fun of her speech should be ashamed of yourselves. She is and always will be, "Sarah from Wasilla", no matter where her ambitions and the Lord leads her. I applaud her. I am proud of both Sarah Palin and John McCain. They may have made some mistakes, but I know that they can sleep at night, assured of their integrity intact.

    • Posted By: JoetheRealAmerican @ 11/06/2008 7:05:48 AM

      Gov. Palin's bravery in running for Vice President? More like ego, arrogance, and ignorance!

      • Posted By: lingram @ 11/06/2008 9:31:35 AM

        What values? Integrity? did you listen to her at all? Keep Sarah in Wasilla. If she's brilliant, I hate to see dumb!! . Let her keep spending your money on her clothes and her trips. Just keep believing in her and before long Alaska will be bankrupt.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/05/2008 10:19:23 PM

      Maybe we could get David Niven to come back to life and give her some lessons.

      • Posted By: JoetheRealAmerican @ 11/06/2008 7:04:04 AM

        Gov. Palin's bravery in running for Vice President? More like ego, ignorance, and arrogance!

  • Posted By: StellaZ @ 11/06/2008 8:51:45 AM

    RE: By focusing so much on class warfare: I was an active member of PA for Human Life during the 80's. I marched with that organization 3 times in Washington. I voted for Reagan. Twice. I voted for Bush. Twice. I voted for Clinton, once. I voted for John McCain in the primary. Both my children are adopted due to infertility. My son served in the military in Afghanistan this year. I am a born-again Christian.

    On Tuesday, November 4th I cast my vote for Barack Obama. Because neither Sarah Palin's actions and words or John McCain's campaign demonstrated the values of the God I serve. My choice was entirely based on the lack of character and integrity they demonstrated the last months of this campaign.

    In 2012 I will not have forgotten the relish with which Sarah Palin was willing to cast Barack Obama as 'other' as 'risky' as 'seeing America differently than we see America', meaning White America. The McCain ticket lost me when they purposely abandoned their purposed core values to embrace the hateful race-baiting politics of Karl Rove and Jesse Helms as channelled through Steve Schmidt. It's really that simple. I wish them well, God Bless. But for me there is no going back from there.

    Oh, did I mention, those 2 beautiful children God gave me? They are African-American.

    • Posted By: StellaZ @ 11/06/2008 9:23:28 AM

      ...And Furthermore.......

      In my comments my goal was to depict myself as the 'conservative republican base' that Sarah Palin supposedly appealed to. Yet I failed to state why I voted for Barck Obama.

      As a direct result of watching Sean Hannity's obsessive relentless attempt to demonize Barack Obama, I took a closer look at Barack Obama. I listened to all his speeches. I read his 'Blueprint'. I watched closely as he graciously rose above all the lies and attacks furiously hurled at him and refused to retaliate.

      What I discovered was a 'man after God's own heart. In his personal and political life I witnessed him demonstrated the character and attributes of the Christ I serve.

      I can differ with him on some important issues. Yet, I trust that he will represent all Americans as the next President of the United States. That he will listen to those that differ from him and they will have a place in his administration. I am grateful my choice and vote travelled the course it did, not based on anything but the content of his character which itself will shine brightly for all the world to see and follow.

  • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 11/06/2008 12:49:59 AM


    The one thing Palin should do now is become a "community organizer". Apparently, they are great at getting people to the polls.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/06/2008 9:16:34 AM

      Bitterness will get you nowhere. The name Casador means "hunter". That is a name that implies the strength and character of one who provides for others by skill and stealth, worthy of much more than bitterness in defeat.

  • Posted By: izme @ 11/06/2008 9:03:23 AM

    Would any of you encourage your beautiful, innocent daughters to run for Pres or VP after you see how brutal the media is? No, and that is just how they want it. The media does not want a woman in the White House, so the intimidation is working.

  • Posted By: izme @ 11/06/2008 8:59:07 AM

    Is it no wonder that more and more women in the US are changing their gender? Female bashing and abuse is so dominate in the US, it is safer for a woman to be gay so that hate crimes are enforced. Hate crimes against women are not illegal. So therefore all you "brave" Sarah bashers can have at it and no one will stop you. Doesn't that make you feel powerful?

  • Posted By: izme @ 11/06/2008 8:54:26 AM

    The US is not all that much more advanced than the Muslim nations. We claim that women have equal rights in the US, but that is not so. Look at how the media treated the women who ran for the offices of Pres and VP. They were mocked, scoffed, scorned, intimidated for all the world to see. No wonder it took so long since Sen Ferraro ran for VP for any woman to attempt the feat again. Is this treatment intended to discourage future attempts by women to attain the highest office in the US? I encourage young women to not be intimidated by these abusive sources and to take courage and break loose and make your attempt for the White House. We will break that glass ceiling. It has been cracked.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/06/2008 8:48:26 AM

    I compliment the term, "Playbook" to describe the agenda of Sarah Palin. The term, "Coloring Book", would also do just as well. She dresses really neat and could be counted on not to color outside of the lines.

  • Posted By: DrewCAENG @ 11/06/2008 7:32:08 AM

    Please run in 2012 Palin! That will guarantee an Obama 2nd term.

  • Posted By: Shoebyte @ 11/06/2008 6:58:30 AM

    Girl28 said it very well. Her comment is well worth finding and reading. Having said that, this is without a doubt the dumbest article I've ever read in a news mag.

  • Posted By: NORTH CAROLINA REGISTERED INDEPENDENT @ 11/06/2008 6:38:53 AM

    Why help this woman? Did Hitler need a playbook? This person is the worst of America, not the best. We need intelligence and values, not a female Huey Long.

  • Posted By: jwschen @ 11/06/2008 6:30:03 AM

    I can't believe anyone would think of Palin running for presidency 4 years from now?? She is a disgrace of the progress that women have made through decades. It is horrifying watching her making speeches and dividing the country running as a VP candidate as it was!! No more Palin!! Enough is enough!!

  • Posted By: cm4297 @ 11/06/2008 6:24:21 AM

    truth will be told, you mean she wasn't in tears after Bush cut taxes, and the military did not have the necessary equipment to fight. Wow...

  • Posted By: cm4297 @ 11/06/2008 6:23:10 AM

    As a person who voted for Obama, but is a Republican to the heart, Palin is not our girl. Palin symbolizes what has gone wrong with the party. She does not mind invoking divisive language, and she really appeals to the fringe of the party. As expected, McCain won the base Republican states, but if this election taught Republicans anything...YOU NEED MORE THAN YOUR BASE TO WIN. Bobby Jindal would be their best best.

  • Posted By: StevenNavy @ 11/06/2008 5:53:12 AM

    Sarah if you can read then take this to heart, Don't Run For President in 2012! You are like a ornament, you look nice, but you are not very useful. Re-start the snowmobile business with Todd's best friend, that will get you more of what you need.

  • Posted By: Richard Lambert @ 11/06/2008 5:14:43 AM

    As a Dem, I actually agree with most of the article, except the last part about capitalizing on the last couple of months w/ a book deal for your pocketbook. That just lends credence to the perception that you were all in it for yourself.

    On the other pieces, Awesome, go for it. To go this path requires a lot more depth than you have shown to date. As it stands now, I would not vote for any ticket you are on. If you are able to successfully maneuver through the political maze over the next few years and emerge a contender, you will have validated that those who backed you knew what they were talking about.

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