HOW HE DID IT 2008

The Age of Obama

Obama will need the spirits of Kennedy, FDR and Lincoln, and also a patient public.

By Jon Meacham | NEWSWEEK
Published Nov 5, 2008
From the magazine issue dated Nov 17, 2008

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  • Posted By: tom1980 @ 09/04/2009 10:43:09 AM

    Good grief it's quiet around here. Where did everybody go?

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2009 10:32:04 PM

    F4, I'm sorry. I thought it was you because JR writes like you, he even said "good grief" just like you do. I thought at first this was a joke, but now it's not funny.

    • Posted By: Forty4 @ 06/02/2009 10:57:37 PM

      Stop and think Pia, no one here can login under someone else's user name. Btw, I didn't receive a private message from you. I'm not sure how that works. What I can tell you is this idiot JustRay that is masquerading as me is a phony and a liar.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2009 11:21:05 PM

        Forty4-I know no one can log in under someone else's username. I thought you were undercover as JustRay. And thank you for saving me here, I was going to give him my email in the next message because I thought it was you.

        • Posted By: Forty4 @ 06/02/2009 11:38:42 PM

          Pia, it's okay. I'm glad you didn't share that information. As a suggestion, it's something one should never do on the internet.

          I've missed posting here and will be back, and yes as Forty4. Poco has mentioned as much also. Catch up with you soon.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2009 11:09:11 PM

        I'm sorry I thought it was you. I have no idea why someone would do this to me. Last week, I was with Pallisor and this guy acted like he was angry at me for posting with Pallisor and posted the link video I posted to you with Bud and Lynn. The message I sent you can be accessed with the link I posted here. Disregard the message, it only said, "hello." I made a fool of myself as usual even though FF told me not to believe him after she read his posts to me and Pallisor.

  • Posted By: JustRay @ 05/25/2009 1:54:25 AM

    Little P you must think you know me well enough to judge how I would act if I was hurt. It didn't take long for you to move on and it is obvious to me you're clearly into the first taker. I was waiting to see just how long it would take. I can see that you are trying to touch Pallisor that way you did me. Am I wrong?

    You have certainly managed to turn Newsweek into your personal dating site, in fact it would seem to be a speed dating. You know how I feel about that. So no P, as was the case last fall, I still feel I have nothing to apologize for.

    • Posted By: Forty4 @ 06/02/2009 8:40:19 PM

      Well, justray.. Take a look at my username.... It isn't you, is it?  This will at least tell Pia that you're nothing more than a lying, game playing runt that's so puny he thinks he has to imitate a real man. What a pathetic little jerk off. It's both laughable and sad.

       

      Pia, Poco spotted this today and mentioned it. You're a good girl P, please don't take a wimpy, game playing lying creep like this seriously. 

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 05/25/2009 11:43:15 PM

      J, so it really is you just as I thought even though I agreed with FF that it wasn't you. I did that so as not to disappoint her. I apologized to FF last night over the words I posted to her last month and she apologized to me. We then posted together.

       

      I'm sorry that I hurt you. It was not intentional. You left and gave me the impression you did not want me to ever post to you again.. Pallisor was kind to me and we get along well. Nothing you posted is going on. I wish you had not done that, I wish you had left Pall out of this. Why hurt him? He does know what happened because one late friday night pjb asked me why I was on NW instead of out having fun and replied that I would not be with the one I want to be with. Pall then asked pjb to leave me be because I would find my way. I was trying to do just that and then you come back and turn my life upside down. Why leave at all? To test me? According to you I failed. I will stress to you once again that I am not dating anyone from NW. The men I am close to are my friends, that's all. Two were friends before NW, I told them about the site and they registered.

       

      I wish you had not mentioned MT. You know what happened, he has been harassing me since the first few days he was on NW. I never gave him any attention. He doesn't like me because of the company I keep. Also, I wish you had not mentioned that incident in Nov. I explained to you why I did that. I knew then that I should not have done it because it was wrong. I dragged a friend into it too and caused him problems with you. I'm sorry I did what I did.

       

      I don't want nor expect an apology from you. I already explained this and many things on the article we were at. Go back and read my posts to you if you have not. 

       

      The YT link. Remember that I gave that as a gift to you. Now you hate me and don't ever want me to post to you again, therefore you give me this as a goodbye gift. You will have to do better than that and post something horrific in nature because I just can't associate that with hate, can you? I listened to that for weeks after you left while trying to find you by looking at yearbooks from your college because I missed you. 

       

      I will check here soon to see if you have read this. Btw, Ms.Chatty doesn't suit me. Those who know me, know me to be demure.

      • Posted By: JustRay @ 05/26/2009 9:43:18 PM

        So Little P, you're back. I would have thought Pallisor would be keeping you busy, but it would seem he is busy with his home life with his wife and kids. While I certainly don't have any proof he has a family you hardly can prove otherwise. Hasn't the thought you may be breaking up a home ever occurred to you? Do you care?

        Your life is upside down, why? How could that possibly be? What exactly did I mean to you? Are you still waiting for me to pull up in a '53 Chevy and head to AZ? Really, with a total stranger? What are expecting from this? Can you answer these questions?

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 05/27/2009 10:41:33 PM

          I know I should have answered this question last night because it is very important. Of course I care about this you say, I am of good character. I believe he is honest and he wouldn't do anything if he had a family. Besides, we have done nothing immoral.

           

          Upside down life-I exaggerated. I meant my silly blog life because you leave and then you show up under another name and you did turn my life upside down with your mysterious undercover and spy ways and you were mean to both of us. Besides, I didn't initiate the conversation, not with him nor you. Early last month, you found me blogging with bojack27 and you posted sweet words. It was a welcoming change because for three days he and I had been arguing over gays and abortions issues which btw, I'm pro-life.

           

          1.What did you mean to me? Since I tried to find you, what do you think you meant to me? 2. Would I leave with you, a stranger to go to AZ? Of course not, I don't go anywhere with strangers. 3.What do I expect with this? I ask you the same question. Also, what do you mean by "this?" Btw, the boogieman is back. MT is bothering me again under a new user. He blames me for anything my blog pals post if I happen to be on the article. How could you have thought I would be interested in such a creep. Please don't ever think that about me. I

          • Posted By: JustRay @ 06/01/2009 1:50:44 AM

            1. Could you please be just a bit more vague?
            2. Well, that's a relief.
            3. Well, that should be obvious. Boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy....

            So, where do we go from here?
            May I suggest we meet on another virtual setting? Say IRQ(instant messaging) or the like? Let me know via this board or is there another way? I thought I saw you mention a private message or something, what's that?

            My problem is this - for all I know you're some creepy guy or worse. Good grief, you could even be a liberal. So, I don't play games and do not like surprises. Does that make any sense?

            • Posted By: JustRay @ 06/02/2009 1:35:48 AM

              Change of heart?

              That's okay, have a great life.

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2009 9:31:31 AM

                Hello F, no change of heart. I'm sorry, I am just getting your messages now. I have been off since last week, I had to take a few days off from all the craziness with the trolls with multiple usernames.

                 

                So that I know it is you, send me a priv. message under your other user. When on the site click on View all Users which is located at the top of page.... type my user in search...then take it from there. http://blog.newsweek.com/forums/default.aspx

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2009 12:47:38 PM

                  I sent something to your other username. Link below to read..

                  http://blog.newsweek.com/user/PrivateMessages/default.aspx

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2009 9:54:27 AM

              1. Let's be sensible, why would I try to find you? 2. Relief? I shouldn't have to tell you this. 3. Duh. Silly me naive me. Is that what "this" is? I thought it was going for pizza and afterwards a few lessons on politics. I understand your concern but I'm not a "creepy guy" and I'm not a liberal. I voted for Obama but I am not a liberal and I don't agree with all of his policies, I'm pro-life. I thought you said you have read my comments? In the course of a year and a half, I have posted several times that I voted for Pres. Bush. I have defended him dozens of times. Also, I would hope that to you a "creepy guy" would be worse than any liberal. Funny, I never thought you could be a creepy guy or a girl. I suppose I am too trusting.

        • Posted By: Fortunate Fox @ 05/26/2009 10:02:55 PM

          You lying weasel. You are not Forty4. You're a liar and a fraud. You said you "lost your password", but now your story changes and you're trying to lead people to think you're someone else. Are you so stupid that you think people here can't see that? 

           

          Or why not just come out and say that you're Forty4... why all the pussyfooting around? You've already implied as much, why not just come out and say so?   I know why. 

           

          Remember jerk, impersonating someone else on the internet is a crime.

           

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 05/27/2009 12:03:55 AM

            FF- Please, not to worry. Forty4 will be fine. No one will ever know if Forty is JR. I won't let anyone find out.

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 05/08/2009 1:35:29 PM

    Jack, you have got to come back. Since you left I am in fights everyday, I'm even fighting with my side now. I need you to keep me out of trouble, I need you to keep me tame. Come save me! And I don't care if you think I'm chasing you, I am. Isn't that what you wanted?

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 05/06/2009 7:49:08 PM

    Bud, just a few thoughts I forgot to include in my previous message below. I don't understand this concern you have of being hypocritical. You should not care about what anyone who read our posts would think. Many disregard them. You remember when I left you the Bud and Lynn video/songs youtube link, I posted to you that I would not post another comment because someone would think I was hitting on you. You replied, "Let them think what they want." Forgive me for having to say this to you but my feelings are that you are concerned about how you think I am. You may think that I pick up men and then discard them. Never. Believe me, I am for real. If you are concerned about me wanting every man I see, don't be, I'm not that way at all. And I am not shallow. I am into personality and character, not looks the of a man. Looks wear out after five minutes with me and after that I am captivated by the personality.

     

    Jack, if you want to contact me, I'l be here.

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 05/02/2009 11:33:58 AM

    Forty4-I am waiting for you to come and acknowledge my comments and apology. I'm fine, I just want an explanation. Thank you.

    • Posted By: Forty4 @ 05/03/2009 11:29:43 PM

      Lynn.... I'm sorry I haven't posted... I appreciate your thoughts and your apology, though it was not necessary. My absence has had nothing to do with you. Well, partially. Two weeks ago I suddenly found myself doing the same things Poco and I called you and 40 out for. You know what I mean, and to be truthful, I was blatantly hypocritical.

      Because of this and a few other things, I'm taking little time away from NW. I hope you don't take this personally. In fact, I will miss Tuffy, and especially "Lynn."

      I will be back here one day, but it will be different than today. Please understand that being hypocritical is not only not in my nature, it is deplorable. And this is nobody's fault but my own. Once again, this has nothing to do with you.

      Take care, Tuffy!!

  • Posted By: Fortunate Fox @ 04/21/2009 9:42:07 PM

    Merry Christmas Mam....

    • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/21/2009 9:49:46 PM

      I thought that might be you in background Foxy... how are you?

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/21/2009 10:02:14 PM

        Hi Jack, how are you this evening? Are you here for me?

        Why would FF wish us a Merry Christmas in April?

        • Posted By: Fortunate Fox @ 04/21/2009 10:14:55 PM

          Geez Pia... do you not remember in the movie when Bud wished Lynn a Merry Christmas?

          Don't be so jealous here, OK?

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/21/2009 11:01:49 PM

            FF-My mistake. I can see now that you are the real Lynn. You and Bud enjoy yourselves. Good luck.

            • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/22/2009 10:34:55 AM

              No... you're the only Lynn! Sorry I couldn't stay and chat last night.

      • Posted By: Fortunate Fox @ 04/21/2009 10:02:54 PM

        Doing well Bud... and you?

  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:40:50 PM

    Something you might like like Lynn...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkfFr13ASOQ&NR=1

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:59:07 PM

      Beautiful, thank you. She has that sweet look. Kim will always be a classic beauty.

      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:03:26 AM

        I love that song... the ending is nice. Reminds me of LA at night.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:07:49 AM

          Yes, the song is very pretty..Michael Jackson?

          • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:11:45 AM

            Yes, MJ, though I don't know the name of the song.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:15:46 AM

              I don't either..I may have it though. I'll look in my car. Bud, will you answer my little hands question, please? If we did step outside and I hurt my hands and I cried ..lol...what would you do to comfort me?

              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:28:30 AM

                In the first place ,if we stepped outside the only thing I would lay on you is a massive lip-lock. Hardly injurous. How's that for comfort? Did I just say that?

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:30:59 AM

                   You caught me by surprise here but I ditto. Of course I would be demure because I am a scorpio. You?

                  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:40:25 AM

                    I'm a little different... Aries.

                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:43:37 AM

                      Aries are good..I hear it's a fire sign..scorpio is a water sign. I read that Aries love to live dangerously and don't like to be chased..true? Hey, your bday is this month. When?

                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:54:59 AM

                        I just had mine... You're right about living dangerously I suppose.

                        So you'd give it right back would you? Have we come full circle, Tuffy? ; )

                        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 1:03:38 AM

                          Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday dear Jack, happy birthday to you! Un bacio per te.. .. Of course I would unless you didn't want it. Full circle? What do you mean?

                          • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 1:19:20 AM

                            Thanks for the Happy B-day! Very nice and sweet.

                            Full circle: you remember when we talked about stepping outside six months ago? Well, this would be doing the same but for different reasons. See?

                            Good night, sweet Lynn.

                            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 1:30:01 AM

                              You're welcome for the Happy Birthday. Yes, a much better reason. Good night, sleep well ((Bud))

                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 1:23:42 AM

                      Time for me to say good night Bud......pleasant dreams.

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:35:43 AM

                    Lots of comfort and furthermore, I'd give it right back.  Did I just say that?

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:27:06 AM

              Jack, found it on Youtube. The song is Earth Song, What About Sunrise, What About Rain..so pretty.

              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:31:10 AM

                I agree. Not a MJ fan, but this is beautiful.

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 1:51:03 PM

    Heads up- to all who enter...this article if full of sore losers..Obama haters.... and racists. But. We have them under control.

    • Posted By: tyger44 @ 11/06/2008 2:18:47 PM

      Why are you making this personal? Grow up and argue Intelligibly. Just b/c someone doesn't agree with Pres Obama doesn't make them "racist" "sore losers"...understand there were MANY MANY MANY people that voted the way they did simply b/c of the color of his skin!!!! I guarantee a greater percentage of those numbers voted Obama than McCain...for whatever reason! Remember this...conservatives will always vote for the person who will let them keep their money...or allow them to earn more...ALWAYS!!! Do some research, and maturing, and stop name calling

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:28:19 PM

        Huh, Tiger, I can post anything I want..it is after all freedom of speech..you don't like it and you said so and that is your right too. I only said the truth here..I will reinforce it. Once again, this article if riddled with sore losers, racists and haters. What are you? Btw, I don't need to grow up..my candidate won..had he lost, I would be here spewing hatred for the winner.

        • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/07/2008 8:55:33 AM

          Your post that started this thread was defensive, rude and unnecessary. This is the problem with people like you and Harley. You condemn others as "sore losers", "haters" and "racists" for having a different opinion, but then you said "it's all about freedom of speech" and that YOU "can post anything you want!"
          You libs are do funny. Always wanting it both ways.... Hypocritical, wouldn't you agree?

          "We have them under control?" LOL!

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/07/2008 5:35:50 PM

            Your opinion doesn't phase me because I am not a hater. You and I know who the haters are here, the ones who cause trouble. Obama won..fair and square..grow up and get over it.

            • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/08/2008 9:37:15 AM

              Where in my post did I say Obama didn't win fair and square? My point was that you want to say anything you wish, and others cannot.... at least without your trying to "control them."

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 10:54:38 AM

                Where in any posts have I said that I can say anything I want and others cannot? I said that it is freedom of speech and I can say anything I want....I post my opinions as many others do, both Obama and McCain supporters and anyone in between. I never post anything demeaning like what some McCain supporters post about Pres. Obama. If you have proof of your accusation...let's have it.

                • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/08/2008 11:36:42 AM

                  Quote: "Huh, Tiger, I can post anything I want..it is after all freedom of speech."

                  Quote: "We have them under control."

                  And I did not say you posted anything demeaning.

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 1:37:08 PM

                    Lol, Forty4! This is what you are picking on me about??? I mean really ...how lame can you be? I think perhaps you are in a fighting mood and would like to step outside? Too bad we can't...Btw, I am a female but I can have you saying uncle in a heartbeat.

                    • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/08/2008 2:01:22 PM

                      Wow... I must have really hit a nerve!!! So you wanna step outside and mix it up a little, do you Tuffy? Lol... I'll bet your as cute as a kitten! ; )

                      Okay.... lighten up, Ms. Pia, when things get to the point where you want to start taking a swing at someone, it's time to stop. By the way, I let the haters hate. It's not good for your BP to try and stop them.

                      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/13/2009 4:14:14 PM

                        Bud-if we did "step outside" you'd have me crying uncle in a few seconds and then you'd feel sorry for me and then I would need comfort. What would you do to comfort me, my Bud?

                        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:16:33 PM

                          Bud, Lynn is listening to the LA soundtrack.

                          • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 10:34:31 PM

                            Could you give me the link for this please Veronica?

                            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:42:46 PM

                              Bud, here you go... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD5au_L6Ahg

                              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 10:51:28 PM

                                Great video... my God, Bud and Lynn are beautiful together, aren't they?

                                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:56:58 PM

                                  They are. The music is beautiful..which is your fave song?  Bud, have you read my other posts to you? The one about hurting my little hands?

                                  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:03:34 PM

                                    I love all the music in L.A. Confidential. I'd have to think about it to come up with a favorite....

                                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:10:57 PM

                                      Well of course as a woman I prefer the pretty songs. Btw-I've watched the movie twice in one week. Bud-I have a couple of confessions to make...1) I'm a bit ashamed over my post up above ..the "heads up" one. I wish I had not posted that back then. I'm not like that. 2) that user/puzzle, I have not had that for months as I said. It's new.

                                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:15:22 PM

                                        jAnd you're worried about this now? lol...

                                        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:21:22 PM

                                          Lol..not worried, just explaining...I want you to think I'm sweet.. wouldn't want you to want to arrest me for being bad...

                                          • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:31:01 PM

                                            I love this music.. I'm listening to it again.... Don't worry about being arrested. As sweet as you are.... I'd have to arrest myself first. Watching this, it's no wonder my family and friends call me Bud.

                                            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:36:02 PM

                                              Here's an idea, arrest us both then we'll be cuffed together! My wrists are little though, I may wiggle my hand out..lol..

                                              Bud, do you resemble Russel Crowe?

                                              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:51:39 PM

                                                Anyone reading NW will agree we both need arresting...

                                                Though I don't see it, my friends and family think the resembalance is astounding.

                                                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:57:48 PM

                                                  You're right about that, we are very Off Topic....but we're not offensive. What should we do..discuss politics instead? Go ahead teach me...I don't know too much about politics. So, you do look like Mr. Crowe.. very cool..I think he looks hot. It's his boyish face.

                                                  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/20/2009 12:01:42 AM

                                                    I have longer hair, though not as long as his in his upcoming flick.

                                                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/20/2009 12:05:00 AM

                                                      I'm sure your hair is longer..his was a crew or whatever it's called..I like it though. Are you blond?

                            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:38:42 PM

                              Lol, certainly Bud, but it's easier if you go to youtube and type in D. Kurtz in search box..then click on video LA video.

                      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 2:22:43 PM

                        Forty4-I will take Tuffy and cute as a kitten as a compliment...thank you.

                        As for stepping outside, I never said I wanted to do that...I asked if you did. I do apologize for giving you that impression. I have been on NW for almost a year and those who know me well, know that I'm all for peace and love. It makes the world go round. BP-yes, some comments here can raise anyone's BP.

                  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/08/2008 11:40:15 AM

                    And then there's this one....

                    Quote: "Just ....Be....Quiet. You are an embarassment." And you're not trying to control other's?

                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 1:40:26 PM

                      Forty4, forgive me if I'm rude by asking...would that be your age? My comment was perfect...it was directed at posters who were behaving like children....You need to stop wasting your precious time nitpicking on my comments and get after the serious haters...don't deny there aren't many.

                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/09/2008 11:44:36 PM

                        No, 44 isn't my age, it's the number of our new president, silly... You're too cute.... aren't you? ; )

                        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/13/2008 11:56:01 PM

                          If you chose your name for Obama, that means you support him?

                          Thanks for saying I'm cute...you are too....you are a guy right?

                          • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/14/2008 11:06:21 AM

                            The feelings are mutual! I signed up months before the election, so my user name represented the coming prez, no matter who won. But yes, though I oppose many of Obama's views, I will support him.

                            btw, I'm a guy.

                            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/14/2008 12:41:08 PM

                              Of course 44 represented either candidate winning..I'm glad you support Pres. elect Obama though.

                              Good to meet you "guy" Btw, I'm not so cutie..I'm a troublemaker here.. but you know that already.

                              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/14/2008 1:56:52 PM

                                That much is certain... ; )

                                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/14/2008 2:10:10 PM

                                  I just saw your comment on the front page and knew it was meant for me!. Come now, I really thought you would disagree with me and insist that I'm too sweet. We wouldn't want my BP to go up now, would we?
                                  Btw, are you an MD?

                                  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/14/2008 3:32:09 PM

                                    I'm sure you're sweet... but I'll also bet you're a handful... ; )

                                    No, I'm not an MD....

                                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/15/2008 9:02:56 AM

                                      Forty4, it really depends on who's doing the handling.

                                      I thought perhaps you were since you mentioned BP a few times.

                                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/15/2008 10:39:36 AM

                                        "it really depends on who's doing the handling." LOL... Very cute... Touché!

                                        I used to get my BP up here before the election, and still do once in a while, not very often though.

                                        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/15/2008 1:38:35 PM

                                          It was meant to "touch" you.

                                          BP= you need to try relaxation techniques. I hear it helps.

                                          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/13/2009 10:47:51 PM

                                            BW

                                            • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 6:51:44 PM

                                              So how's little Lynn B.? Well, I hope. I see you're still grappling with TTR and P. hmmmmm... Do I detect a little stubbornness? Have one of your favorite liqueurs and relax... works for me.

                                              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 9:00:02 PM

                                                I'm okay, Jack. Thank you. How are you? Yes, I had some Amaretto this evening. Bud, you're so elusive lately.. Working undercover?

                                                • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 9:27:21 PM

                                                  Hi my little Lynn...

                                                  I'm laid back tonight and doing well thank you... sipping a McAllen neat. I'm thinking about buying a bottle of Pappy whatever TTR suggested on the other site. I've never heard of it, but is sounds wonderful!

                                                  Yes, I've been working, which I'm doing a lot often. Lately it's been heavy. I look for it to lighten up a little soon though.

                                                  And what do you do, my beautiful Lynn?

                                                  • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 9:54:34 PM

                                                    Btw, I don't mean to be elusive. Tthe division I work can be a little demanding.

                                                    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:05:06 PM

                                                      It sounds like it would be. Is it exciting?

                                                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 10:29:46 PM

                                                        At times it can be. I work Vice. At times it can be excititing, but for the most part, I look forward to Homocide.

                                                        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:59:08 PM

                                                          It must be exciting but a little dangerous too. Do you carry a weapon like Bud did? Hip or shoulder?

                                                          • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:08:20 PM

                                                            Yes, I carry... almost always hip. On occocasion shouldered... it's a pain.

                                                            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:13:08 PM

                                                              Very exciting to know that. Hip is good. Underneath a suit with a tie?

                                                              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 11:19:26 PM

                                                                Depends on the situation. Sometimes jeans and a long shirt... Either way, it's always covered.

                                                                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 11:23:15 PM

                                                                  Jeans are excellent ,somehow I always pictured detectives wearing suits. I like both though..

                                                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 04/19/2009 10:13:05 PM

                                                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/19/2009 10:04:33 PM

                                                    Hi Bud, glad you are relaxing and enjoying your drink. You work too much, you deserve it. Is this the drink you had at the Frolic Room? That Pappy sounds interesting..let me know how you like it when you try it. What am I doing? Having another  Di Saronno. Very relaxing. Thank you for the beautiful compliments, I'm humbled.

                                      • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/15/2008 10:39:15 AM

                                        "it really depends on who's doing the handling." LOL... Very cute... Touché!

                                        I used to get my BP up here before the election, and still do once in a while, not very often though.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/07/2008 5:45:31 PM

              PS Forty4- Three things I neglected to add to my previous post-1) I'm not a liberal. 2) Harley and I are not hypocrites. 3) Your bitterness and desperation is very unbecoming. Take a bitter pill.

              • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/08/2008 9:49:34 AM

                I called you on your hypocrisy. There's no bitterness there, just a fact.

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 10:50:08 AM

                  Forty4, once again..I'm no hypocrite. You're a sore,... and bitter loser.

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 2:30:51 PM

                    Forty4-You're a good sport...I am retracting this comment.... it was mean. I apologize.

                    • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/08/2008 3:13:32 PM

                      Sweet and kind of you.... likewise. I've read many of your posts, and though we're on opposite sides of the political fence, I do admire your passion. I'm glad you took my last comment as a compliment, as that's the way it was intended. Watch that bp.... ; )



                      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/08/2008 4:52:36 PM

                        I am very sincere. You've read many of my posts? (gulp!) I'm blushing and I'm a little embarassed now. I admit I tend to think with my heart more so than with my head.

                        Your last comment? I hope you are not leaving...the party has just begun...At any rate, I have enjoyed our discussion..

                        • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/09/2008 11:36:48 PM

                          Me too. You're a cutie, Pia.

                          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/13/2008 11:54:03 PM

                            Forty4, a bit late in coming, but I do thank you.

                            • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/14/2008 11:07:54 AM

                              Only a day... ; )

                              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/14/2008 12:37:22 PM

                                More like three..lol..

                                • Posted By: Forty4 @ 11/15/2008 10:42:19 AM

                                  Somebody changed the date on my post. It was you, wasn't it? ; )

                                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/15/2008 12:56:02 PM

                                    Of course it was me.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:33:08 PM

          Correction- sorry- in my above post, I meant to type, "had my candidate Obama lost, I would NOT be here spewing hatred for the winner, John McCain.

      • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/06/2008 2:22:46 PM

        "Why are you making this personal? Grow up and argue Intelligibly. Just b/c someone doesn't agree with Pres Obama doesn't make them "racist" "sore losers"..."

        I don't think he was referring to all conservative posters here. Just the ones blaming McCain's loss on race, and the ones still stubbornly (and stupidly) trying to insist that Obama is a Muslim foreigner, etc.

        "understand there were MANY MANY MANY people that voted the way they did simply b/c of the color of his skin!!!!"

        Okay, let's see some hard numbers.

        "Remember this...conservatives will always vote for the person who will let them keep their money...or allow them to earn more...ALWAYS!!! "

        Well, I guess, if you're referring to what passes for "conservativism" these days. Of course, real conservatives like Ike and Taft would disagree that this is the number one issue for a conservative.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:30:42 PM

          Thank you, Doc. I'm a she, btw.

          • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/06/2008 2:37:51 PM

            Whoops! Apologies.

            • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:40:48 PM

              Lol. No need to. The name Pia is female.

        • Posted By: tyger44 @ 11/06/2008 2:31:29 PM

          Been a pleasure Doc...I'd love to keep this going...but I have to head out! I'll be praying for Pres Obama!

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:37:55 PM

            Obama won't need your prayers.

          • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/06/2008 2:37:26 PM

            See you tomorrow, I hope.

    • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/06/2008 2:12:00 PM

      Thanks P....I was getting ticked!! LOL!!

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:16:35 PM

        You need to have your mouth washed out with soap. May I?

        • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/06/2008 2:21:17 PM

          Sorry ticked is pretty harsh...how about PO'd???

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 2:30:08 PM

            Rock, did I name you in my post above? NO. So stop being P'Od.

            • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/06/2008 3:33:43 PM

              LOL!!!

              • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/06/2008 3:55:16 PM

                Lol? That's it? Rocky, I know you can come up with something better than this. You need something to get your blood boiling...a woman perhaps?

                • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/06/2008 4:25:27 PM

                  It was funny!! Nah....women weaken legs....(LOL Rocky I quote)

  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 04/18/2009 8:50:52 AM

    Mr. Meacham was right... Months after the election Obama has already been compared to Kenndy, FDR and Lincoln. As for the public being patient, only his supporters are giving him the trust and patience he deserves.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/19/2008 8:10:42 PM



    What was that "eddie"? I couldn't quite hear you.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 11/19/2008 2:37:36 AM

    OBAMA your BLACKBERRY has already been hacked by the CHINESE AND/OR RUSSIANS.
    THERE IS A CYBER WAR THAT HAS BEEN LAUNCHED AGAINST AMERICA. AND THE CHINESE AND RUSSIANS ARE KICKING OUR A**ES. OBAMA NEEDS TO APPOINT COLIN POWELL TO ASSEMBLE A NEW ARMY. A CYBER ARMY TO FIGHT THE NEW WAR OF THE FUTURE. OUR ARMY IS VERY WEAK AND THE ENEMY IS USING OVERWHELMING FORCE AGAINST US. WE NEED TO ASSEMBLE A NEW CYBER ARMY BEFOR AL QUEDA CATCHES ON. IMAGINE LAUNCHING ATTACKS AGAINST AN ENEMY BY TAKING CONTROL OF THEIR OWN WEAPONS VIA COMPUTER. OBAMA NEEDS TO APPOINT RICHARDSON TO BE SECRETARY OF STATE. HE IS A CALM COOL NEGOTIATER. NON POLARIZING. HE SPEAKS SPANISH AND CAN REALLY IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIPS ON THIS SIDE OF THE HEMISPHERE. HE CAN BRING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST. WOMEN ARE NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE LAST TWO SECRETARY OF STATES HAVE BEEN WOMEN. ENOUGH WE NEED A CHANGE. I REALLY LIKE WARREN CHRISTOPHER WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE THAT. RICHARDSON IS THE MAN.

  • Posted By: DianaRo @ 11/18/2008 2:35:39 PM

    "The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
    $30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
    $540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget."

  • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 11/18/2008 8:03:03 AM

    Keep it in your pants Barry!! We all know the Kennedy's had a problem with that!! LOL!!

  • Posted By: DianaRo @ 11/17/2008 3:16:23 PM

    . "The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
    $30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
    $540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget."

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 11/09/2008 10:09:28 PM




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    • Posted By: sharenews @ 11/10/2008 5:14:09 PM


      Say what you want about Joe the Plumber, Bass Pro (such an intelligent blog below by the way), but this is the real deal pertaining to this guy:

      First of all, Obama came into 'Joe The Plumbers' neighborhood to get some publicity and Joe posed a question to Obama about what his tax plan would do to him should he potentially acquire a plumbing business he is contemplating pursuing in the future.

      As part of the response to Joe The Plumbers question, Obama made the mistake of saying (and we all know he regretted) those famous words 'I think that spreading the wealth is good for everybody' - which McCain ran with cuz it was, of course, great fodder to use against Obama.

      Because JTPs question and Obamas answer (which is really THE issue) brought out the reality of Obamas Tax Plan. . . based on BOs spread the wealth comment, Obamas camp, media, etc. went full throttle to DISCREDIT this US citizen who only asked a question of Obama when called upon. (The article below shows that it was not public info that anyone could get about JTP but lots of deep sought out investigations to find ANYTHING about JTP to make him look bad, and thus discredit him - which in itself makes no sense cuz all he did was ask the question . . . . It was Obamas 'ANSWER" about spreading the wealth that was what really exposed what was behind Obamas Tax Plan which, again, McCain ran with and why Obama supporters hold it against Joe The Plumber which is what is really what is ridiculous.. . look at the depth they did to discredit this guy:.

      The Columbus Dispatch
      Checks on Joe more extensive than first acknowledged
      Tax, welfare info also sought on McCain ally
      Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:05 PM
      By Randy Ludlow
      http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/29/joe30.html?sid=101

      After what the rogue Obama camp who was assigned to destroy Joe the Plumber did. . ..which didnt work. . . . H*ll yeah, I see not problem with JTP taking advantage of the celebrity that both prez nominees made of him, especially given it (book ) is for agood cause - to get people more involved with democracy, our government, to learn more on how to get your voices heard, etc. and to create continued dialogue going on a site he sets up on the Internet to generate interest in our American dream and the politics tied to getting there.

      I say. . . Good for Joe The Plumber!

      It was Obamas ANSWER that he gave to JTP that opened up the WHOLE CAN OF WORMS. . . which McCain had a field day running with.

      PS: I think JOE should also write some DO-IT-YOURSELF books (series) on great Plumbing Projects for consumers.. . . I can just see his plumbing project books aligned on shelves as people come into HOME DEPOT.

      GO JOE GO!

      • Posted By: Kboogie @ 11/10/2008 7:18:37 PM

        share, are you serious w/ this? You're just bored now, aren't you?

        Actually, how much does he charge? I need my drain snaked.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 11/11/2008 2:56:28 AM




          Exactly. . . look at my post above. He didnt ask for his celebrity at all. The two prez noms gave it to him on a silver plate. I say GOOD FOR JOE. . . after all it is America and it is for a good cause as I describe abobe.

          • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/17/2008 9:14:08 AM

            Actually, I'm having a great deal of fun watching the media rip him a new one.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/10/2008 7:51:59 PM

          KB, she is dead serious. This nonsense is posted on several articles. She is only trying to shift the spotlight from President Obama to Joe..like there could ever even be a tiny comparison. First share was a fan of Hillary..now it's Joe the Plumber. What a riot!

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 11/11/2008 3:04:24 AM


            Pia, your statement is totally not the case.

            Actually, Pia, as much as you may want to portray me as a bitter Hillary supporter, if there was any of that it went away when Sarah Palin came into the scene (which we all know the Dems hate cuz she is a threat in the political future . . .in 2012 and /or 2016 now). As you know, I was a McCain voter, but as an Independent who felt that McCain would have been the better President to protect our country and to get us out of the mess this country is in (I never voted once for Bush. . .never voted Repub before McCain. . . but of course you admittedly voted both times for G. W. Bush ). But then, my husband, who voted for Obama, has been stressing to me (you remember him, an Obama voter that I told you about ?) to give Obama some time, and see who he starts selecting as part of his staff and . .. his cabinet eventually. . . and watch what he does when it comes to his proposed policies as he moves forward in his first year. Then judge him. I say you Obama supporters in these blogs really help me try to do this. . . NOT.

            Anyways, that is what I plan on doing. So unlike your continued portrayal of me in these blogs, I am not an Obama hater or racist or whatever else you continue to call people who did not vote for him. Hopefully all of you Obama supporters will prove me / us Independnents wrong - and I hope you do for the sake of this country. Time will tell and we will wait to see. . . .

      • Posted By: Blue in AZ @ 11/11/2008 12:10:30 AM

        He doesn't want to be a plumber anymore. He wants to be Toby Keith.

        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15072.html

        I guess 15 minutes wasn't enough.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 11/11/2008 2:53:26 AM


          Hey, both those Prez nominees got him (Joe the Plumber) in a position of celebrity by taking advantage of him. . . why not publish a book (avail in Dec) and launch a website (to keep American talking about being involved in government moving forward). Good for him. Looks like he wont be the normal 15 minutes of fame, but more. Dont be surprised if he pops up again in 2012!

          GO, JOE, GO!!

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/10/2008 11:34:30 AM

      Joe the "Plumber" is Billy-Beer revisited but unlike Billy -Beer, Joe has no redeeming qualities.

      Come on up Joe! Come on up Joe! Let's give joe a hand! Is Joe here? Where's Joe?

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/10/2008 9:11:06 AM

      Hahaha

    • Posted By: Bass Pro @ 11/10/2008 8:10:12 AM

      Your mouth-breathing buddies are going to wish you'd go back to the striped necktie for Christmas.

      If there was ever a definitive period in the history of the GOP party of hate, it's now. They have just been handed their butts with another pending more devastating beating loom1ng in 2012 and they're rallying around Joe the Plumber!

      The whole world is laughing at you and your patheitc Republican Party.

  • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/15/2008 1:44:36 AM

    You really don't know how read, do you? You probably don't even know what "cogent" means. Someone told you to say that. Think for yourself!

  • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/13/2008 1:45:03 AM

    To my friend "whatisreal" - what is "humilty" and what is "poser limbaugh"? To my dear friend harley - seems that you are a very hateful person!

    • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/14/2008 3:11:14 PM



      Just wondering if anyone has ever seen Ariziowa make an informed or cogent comment.

      My favorite so far is his posting that he knows so much about Africa that he can spout authoritatively on Iran. That is, until it was pointed out that Iran is not in Africa...

      • Posted By: ariziowa @ 11/15/2008 1:28:46 AM

        You are so stupid, I am glad I don't live anywhere near you! "uh, uh, uh, he think's Iran in in Africa, uh, uh, uh, - you can't even read my comment! Talk about the dumbing down of America -= you.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/14/2008 3:25:27 PM

        To be honest with you, yes, under his other screen name. Btw, hit and run last night? Lol.

        • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/14/2008 4:08:42 PM



          I'm hardly hit and run. Slow and mutual lingering is more like it. And some repetitions and variations too. After all the exploration reveals the zones and preferences....

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/14/2008 4:12:49 PM

            Excellent! Looking forward to more of it...but not here... NW has other interesting articles..get me a link .

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/13/2008 3:12:58 PM

      poser Limbaugh because I could here Rush saying what you said in response in the same tone and language.

      Humility is the opposite of arrogance, an unassuming nature. Limbaugh overflows with arrogance to the point of being comical. He lacks in his radio show 'humility'. Not sure how he is for real, but his media persona is arrogant.

    • Posted By: whatisreal? @ 11/13/2008 1:43:37 PM

      Hateful, no, but I will defend and slap down idiot bully punks. You can bank on it. If you want to talk reality, and issues, i have no problem going there. If you want to be a dick, you will be exposed and treated that way. If you meet me half way I am more than happy to be there.

      So, if you want to talk about viewpoints, or politics, or the weather, or things that are outside of personal stuff then let's go for it, in fact I would welcome it and welcome you:)

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 11/14/2008 5:48:55 PM

    Barack Obama gives campaign staffers extra cash, BlackBerrys, laptops

    Barack Obama is sharing the wealth with campaign staffers.
    WASHINGTON - Barack Obama ended his campaign so flush with cash he's telling staffers to keep the change - and then some.

    Long-suffering political footsoldiers who toiled tirelessly, at least since September, to put Obama in the White House recently learned they will be getting extra paychecks worth a month's salary, the Daily News has learned.

    And boy, are they grateful.

    "I think it's a very nice gesture for people who slaved away and sacrificed for the past year," said one pleased ex-staffer.

    "It was totally unexpected, and you can't believe how helpful this is with the holidays coming," the lower-level worker said. "A lot of people thought they were going to be broke and would have to try to find a job in this rotten economy. It's a huge help."

    In addition to the cold cash, staffers also have the option of keeping their campaign-issued computers and BlackBerrys - but must pay income tax on the hardware if they do.

    It's an almost unprecedented move at the end of a presidential campaign, even a winning one, because usually they are flat broke, having taken public financing and gone through every last penny.

    But Obama skipped public financing and raised more than $600 million, including more than $150 million in September, and nearly $40 million in the first couple of weeks of October.

    If this silver parachute approaches his September payroll, it'll be worth upward of $3 million.

    A bunch of John McCain staffers will get checks that cover much of this month, but it's nothing like the widespread lucre flowing around Obamaland.

    "They certainly didn't pay bonuses in the McCain campaign," one ex-staffer there said.

    link to article: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/11/14/2008-11-14_barack_obama_gives_campaign_staffers_ext.html

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 11/14/2008 12:34:30 PM

    Political Two Party Realities:

    There are totally valid Republican philosophies: i.e., the least amount of government is the best government; and government should only do what the people can???t do for themselves. Inherent in those philosophies are many important responsibilities which history tells us the Democrats are better at meeting: i.e., protecting the vulnerable majority against exploitation by the powerful few; and insuring fair and equitable opportunity for all.

    Obvious responsibilities include: National Defense, Law Enforcement, Education, Social Security, Medicare, Homeland Security,,,
    Currently neglected responsibilities: Infrastructure, Transportation, Global Warming, Energy, Fiscal Responsibility, Medical Costs, Responsible use of Military, Necessary Regulation and Control of Financial Industry, Needed Limits and Enforcement in Politics,,,

    The Bush admin is a vivid example of an irresponsible and self-serving government with their total focus on benefit for Special Interests and a select few (who return both overt and covert support, political contributions and even promised compensation for after leaving office) while giving only apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge to the average American.

    Both parties are really capable of doing better and the voters need to demand that they do, without accepting their deceptive rhetoric aimed at manipulating public opinion through individual interests!

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