HOW HE DID IT 2008

An Epic Moment, Yes. But Transcendent? No.

Americans are getting more comfortable with one another

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  • Posted By: Anakin Moriarty @ 01/22/2009 11:25:26 AM

    I for one respect the office and although i didnt vote for him, i wish him the best. Like it or not, he's the prism through which we are now seen by the rest of the world.

    I dont want to get off on a rant here, but :

    Did you know that Barak Obama is the first black president ? Geez, i would have never known that if our friends at ABC,NBC,CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, newsweek, time, wash.post, ny times, etc hadnt told me daily since nov 4th....and about every 15 seconds during the conronatio...err,....Inauguration.

    Did u know that Martin Luther King, Jr was apparently black also.....i think he was a speaker of some reknown, but it was so long ago that almost no one who isnt black apparently remembers him or anything he tried to do.....

    ...and did you know black people were once slaves here in America? (Unlike the millions of slaves held by the Romans, the Assyrians, the Mongols, the Turks, the Babylonians, the Zulus, the Carthaginians, the Chinese, the Japanese, the Egyptians, the Russians, the French, the Arabs, the Hindus, and many 'sub-saharan cultures' throughout history.....)

    ...and when did it become mandatory for any Christian preacher to call themselves Dr?
    Isnt that reserved for people who actually earn degrees studying something? Dr of Divinity is an affront to people who actually get PhD's the old fashioned way....they earn them.

  • Posted By: Anakin Moriarty @ 01/22/2009 11:21:40 AM

    I for one respect the office and although i didnt vote for him, i wish him the best. Like it or not, he's the prism through which we are now seen by the rewst of the world.

    I dont want to get off on a rant here, but :

    Did you know that Barak Obama is the first black president ? Geez, i would have never known that if our friends at ABC,NBC,CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, newsweek, time, wash.post, ny times, etc hadnt told me daily since nov 4th....and about every 15 seconds during the conronatio...err,....Inauguration.

    Did u know that Martin Luther King, Jr was apparently black also.....i think he was a speaker of some reknown, but it was so long ago that almost no one who isnt black apparently remembers him or anything he tried to do.....

    ...and did you know black people were once slaves here in America? (Unlike the millions of slaves held by the Romans, the Assyrians, the Mongols, the Turks, the Babylonians, the Zulus, the Carthaginians, the Chinese, the Japanese, the Egyptians, the Russians, the French, the Arabs, the Hindus, and many 'sub-saharan cultures' throughout history.....)

    ...and when did it become mandatory for any Christian preacher to call themselves Dr?
    Isnt that reserved for people who actually earn degrees studying something? Dr of Divinity is an affront to people who actually get PhD's the old fashioned way....they earn them.

  • Posted By: Anakin Moriarty @ 01/22/2009 11:20:11 AM

    I for one respect the office and although i didnt vote for him, i wish him the best. Like it or not, he's the prism through which we are now seen by the rewst of the world.

    I dont want to get off on a rant here, but :

    Did you know that Barak Obama is the first black president ? Geez, i would have never known that if our friends at ABC,NBC,CBS, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, newsweek, time, wash.post, ny times, etc hadnt told me daily since nov 4th....and about every 15 seconds during the conronatio...err,....Inauguration.

    Did u know that Martin Luther King, Jr was apparently black also.....i think he was a speaker of some reknown, but it was so long ago that almost no one who isnt black apparently remembers him or anything he tried to do.....

    ...and did you know black people were once slaves here in America? (Unlike the millions of slaves held by the Romans, the Assyrians, the Mongols, the Turks, the Babylonians, the Zulus, the Carthaginians, the Chinese, the Japanese, the Egyptians, the Russians, the French, the Arabs, the Hindus, and many 'sub-saharan cultures' throughout history.....)

    ...and when did it become mandatory for any Christian preacher to call themselves Dr?
    Isnt that reserved for people who actually earn degrees studying something? Dr of Divinity is an affront to people who actually get PhD's the old fashioned way....they earn them.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/05/2008 11:22:52 PM

    For what its worth .... if John McCain chose Rudy Guiliani to be his VP running mate , Obama and Biden wouldn't have stood a chance. Guiliani would have carried almost every eastern seaboard state including, Pennsylvania , Ohio , Florida and he would have carried California.

    • Posted By: ssclay @ 11/06/2008 4:05:44 PM

      The fact of the matter is Obama won no matter how much you complain he is going to be the 44th president of the United States of America so get over it. I am 33 years old and this country is in the worst shape that I have ever seen it. Bush has ruined everything so the only way we can go is up. Stop complaining!!!!!

      • Posted By: jarcher1 @ 01/17/2009 8:51:54 PM

        Aw shucks, don't worry about the wingnut webheads, they've always been a whiny contemptuous crowd. Actually they are way tame compared to 1992 to 2000. They manufactured scandal after scandal and investigation after investigation to get Bill. They finally got an impeachment because 1) Ken Starr kept the investigation of Whitewater alive, trying to find something, anything to start impeachment proceedings. 2) Dick Armey and Tom Delay arm twisted 43 Republican congress critters into voting yes when it came up for a vote when they had indicated two days previously they would be voting "no". No chance of that this time around though, we own Congress.

    • Posted By: the-commish @ 11/06/2008 10:32:38 PM

      Not a chance! No republican could have won this election, as it was a referendum on George Bush. Guess what, Bush lost! That's that.

  • Posted By: Paela @ 11/10/2008 12:50:12 PM

    We are getting a clearer picture of Obama each day, especially in the foreign policy arena. It points to arrogance, weakness, and dishonesty:

    Obama met with Iraq's Maliki in July 2008 and began or tried to negotiate with him BEFORE he was president.

    In July 2008, at the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, OBAMA TRIED TO CONVINCE IRAQI LEADERS IN PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH, SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO ENACT THE DEAL WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.

    A few weeks before the Nov. 4 election Obama threw conservative reporters off of his plane.

    In October 2008 VP candidate Joe Biden predicted an international crisis would be staged in 2009 to test Obama after he became president, and predicted that people in the U.S. would not like the way Obama handles it. FIRST TIME IN KNOWN HISTORY THAT A VP CANDIDATE HAS MADE SUCH A PREDICTION ABOUT HIS PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE.

    On Nov. 8, 2008, President-elect Barack Obama's private conversation with Poland's president created an international disagreement, with President Lech Kaczynski saying Obama promised to continue a missile-defense system and the transition office saying the Democrat made no such commitment.

    • Posted By: jarcher1 @ 01/17/2009 8:24:52 PM

      Obama met with Iraq's Maliki in July 2008 and began or tried to negotiate with him BEFORE he was president.

      In July 2008, at the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, OBAMA TRIED TO CONVINCE IRAQI LEADERS IN PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH, SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO ENACT THE DEAL WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.

      Obama discussed a general pull out time table with Maliki in July - a week after the Bush administration had committed to one, one I might add that was strikingly similar to the one Obama had been proposing all along. So it would appear that Obama wasn't negotiating anything, just assuring Maliki that if elected, he was on board with what Bush had already negotiated. You RepubliCON's are just ridiculous. Of course they were private talks, he was a private citizen meeting with a head of state. If there had been a camera crew filming the whole thing, then the wingnuts would have whined about Obama making a photo op out of the talks. And, oh BTW, all treaties have to be confirmed by the Senate in any case.

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/21/obama.mideast/index.html

      A few weeks before the Nov. 4 election Obama threw conservative reporters off of his plane.

      Yep, if it had been Dubya's campaign plane, Karl Rove would have had skeptical reports tossed out from 10,000 feet. A real tempest in a teapot, this one. Fox and the WSJ were allowed to stay it should be noted.

      In October 2008 VP candidate Joe Biden predicted an international crisis would be staged in 2009 to test Obama after he became president, and predicted that people in the U.S. would not like the way Obama handles it. FIRST TIME IN KNOWN HISTORY THAT A VP CANDIDATE HAS MADE SUCH A PREDICTION ABOUT HIS PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE.

      On Nov. 8, 2008, President-elect Barack Obama's private conversation with Poland's president created an international disagreement, with President Lech Kaczynski saying Obama promised to continue a missile-defense system and the transition office saying the Democrat made no such commitment.

      So are you saying you know for a fact Obama said he would support the shield and then "crawfished" or what? The Poles themselves don't seem very clear on what was or was not actually said.

      http://www.warsawvoice.pl/view/19367

  • Posted By: Krohn @ 11/05/2008 8:47:16 PM

    George Soros finally got what he wanted! I have a feeling that his influence is going to extend well beyond the campaign stage. Everybody was touting what a great campaign Obama was running. But he wasn't running it. It was running him. With enough money you can buy anything. You can buy extreme order. George Soros is going to continue coddling Obama through his presidency to make him look good. He will likely be in contact with foreign leaders, buying their cooperation and easing their fears. George Soros likely bought Obama an Army of advisors to answer any and all questions. Remember Soros is the financial genious that made his money off of the securities markets. He may have even had a hand in crashing the stock market to favor the Democrats just before the election. There is no way that the most unqualified presidential candidate in history got to where he did without such massive help. Some have speculated that after Obama won the Presidency that the media would turn on him and the honeymoon would be over but there is a broader agenda. Soros is buying up all of these newspapers that are endorsing Obama which is an attempt at Socialist propaganda state. He will likely retain his control over the large media networks as well. What is
    the price for stoking Obama's ego? An agenda that makes George Soros the grand puppet master of planet Earth!

    • Posted By: treetracker @ 12/14/2008 12:11:54 AM

      Please contact your physician asap - you need some serious meds.

  • Posted By: carlyboo @ 11/09/2008 5:00:48 PM

    The fact that Barack Obama's formative years were experienced outside the debilitations of American racism/race relations seems to me to be more telling of the possibilities that abound for most of us when we as Americans cast aside the notion of race superiority.

  • Posted By: Tan Boon Tee @ 11/08/2008 11:02:34 PM

    The choice of an African-American as the new leader of the world???s most powerful nation appears to have signaled in an era of the beginning of the decline of global white supremacy. Its significance can be daunting. The whites (mostly the younger generation of the post 1960s) hold little qualm in voting for their ethnic-free choice of leader which several decades ago would have been quite unimaginable.

    One might think that Martin Luther King???s dream was almost completely shattered after his untimely assassination some 40 years ago. But his dream revived. It just did, not a moment too late.

    The world has witnessed that regimes headed by minority would often be short-lived. Does this bear any relevance to the US? THINK ABOUT IT.
    (Tan Boon Tee)

  • Posted By: wwsword @ 11/08/2008 9:27:39 PM

    Even if povery, incarceration and opportunity weren't color coded, they would still be racialized. This is what all you talking heads either don't get or are playing ignorant about in order to dissimulate racism. Racism is an objective fact of life. Even if we all wake up colorblind tomorrow, people we now define as black will still be more likely than those we now define as whites to live in poverty, be in prison, and be disadvantaged. This is because the ideology of racism is no longer needed to maintain the material reality of racism. The promise of Obama is to perfect racism by hiding its reality in the myth of colorblind meritocracy. The corporate media heads are crawling all over themselves to declare racism dead now that we have a black president. It would be self-evidently ridiculous to most everybody if it weren't for the depth of false consciousness in America.

  • Posted By: Boyjazz123 @ 11/07/2008 5:03:57 PM

    Posted by MJ

    One aspect of African American life that has held people back, is that African Americans are more endogamous than any other race group in North America. Our knowledge of the cultures and ways of other race groups is low. How many African Americans, have friends who are Caucasian? That attitude has played a role in the overall social progress of America. In the feild of employment, how can people network or navigate attitudes without knowlege and ways others expect them to behave or style their resumes?

    Obama came to the scene with a deep knowledge of both worlds. In that sense he trancends race. For that process to continue, African American must look outwards and not only inwards as is often the case. Yet most folks seem to miss this point as a lesson to take away from this experience. To my mind, trancending race means mutual understanding of one another.

    Your article seems to be holding to the past instead of marching to the future.

  • Posted By: BoogieStik @ 11/05/2008 1:24:47 PM


    Obama supporters:

    In your post-election elation, remember that the hardcore right-wing ideologues who have misinformed, disinformed and deceived the American public aren't going away. They are just going "underground". They believe their cause justifies their deception, and they aren???t going to stop trying to undermine the cause of those who aren???t like-minded right-wing extremists. Never forget them or take them for granted. There are still a lot of them out there.

    The job now is to show them, by example, the civilized way to escape their hatred. If we don't, they will only use any missteps on our part, real or vacuous, as an excuse to become stronger. That can???t be allowed to happen, because as the last 30 years have shown, they are a real threat to American justice, American prosperity, American security and American progress.

    • Posted By: cshadday @ 11/05/2008 1:35:10 PM

      who exactly has the hatred going on ????? check your first paragragh again. You are using plenty of adjectives, but do you have some specifics ??

      • Posted By: BoogieStik @ 11/06/2008 2:51:48 AM

        Realizing that people are misguided isn't equivalent to hating them. And there's a big difference between cautioning people to be wary, and hating. Knowing that right-wing extremism is a threat to American society obligates anyone who loves America to do something about it. Hatred is not an option.

        Misguided extremists like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh, on the other hand, actually do hate their adversaries. It doesn't take long to read or listen to words of theirs that demonstrate that.

        Anyone who doesn't know that extremist right-wing ideologues hijacked conservatism and the Republican party hasn't been paying much attention. All it really takes is a quick listen to AM talk radio shows. After that, there is so much evidence for those who want the truth, it's hard to say where to begin. Check out the books of conservative whistleblowers like Nixon advisor John Dean, or review what Alan Greenspan and other defectors have said recently. Even conservative icon William F. Buckley was repudiating what had become of the movement shortly before he died.

        • Posted By: Basilhoff @ 11/06/2008 11:48:46 AM

          "Realizing that people are misguided isn't equivalent to hating them."

          It is for the left since anyone not agreeing with them is "misguided". It must feel really good to wake up every day knowing that you are morally and intellectually superior to all around you and that none can have an opinion or thought counter to yours without incurring he wrath of the PC police.

          • Posted By: BoogieStik @ 11/06/2008 7:55:27 PM


            You come to the realization that people are misguided by applying logic to facts and evidence. It has nothing to do with "knowing that you are morally and intellectually superior to all around you". That's just ad hominem rhetorical baloney spouted by people who are willing to distort the truth to try to win arguments and influence gullible audiences, like AM talk show hosts.

            Your conclusion, that for the left realizing that people are misguided is equivalent to hating them wouldn't follow from your premise ("anyone not agreeing with them is 'misguided'") even if the premise was true. And it's not. Leftists are generally open to the possibility of being wrong because that's how they arrive at being right: by being open to evidence and corrections in reasoning. But the opposition has to bring evidence and better reasoning. You haven't brought any of either.




            If anything, it's the right that thinks it's morally superior, regardless of facts like how often and how deeply they become involved in corruption. Jack Abramoff, Tom DeLay, Scooter Libby, Ted Stevens...the list is long, and it's only the tip of an iceberg. There's nothing like it on the left.


  • Posted By: kathyk49 @ 11/06/2008 3:27:25 PM

    We have been kinda discussing the race issue here at work. I work with a bi-racial male so it was good discussion. The jury is out on this one...

  • Posted By: YuWang @ 11/06/2008 9:44:47 AM

    Now I hope the blacks could stop whining about all that being mistreated etc. Other minorities are getting a lot less benefit and everyone else just try to work harder instead of whining. Now that they've got the white house, I hope they could finally feel satisfied. Don't ever want to hear them complaining about inequality again.

    • Posted By: riches @ 11/06/2008 2:59:33 PM

      We don't just whine and complain, but it obivous you haven't really experience what we have as a people. Our God is a good God, and His will be done regardless what anyone thinks. Blacks are not the only group of people who whine and complain. All types of people are in all types of groups: the good, the bad, the ugly, the kind-hearted, the loving, the giving, the selfish, the greedy, the upperclass, the middleclass, the lowerclass, the rich, the poor, the honest, the deceitful, the work for it; the give me; the I got to have it; the I can do without; but the Bible says, "The poor will be with you always." Just because some start poor does not mean that's where they will end. Be so kind and focus on what characteristics you want to be known individually. I sure in your group (what ever that may be) somebody whines and complains. You really need to read some true history. This country was built on the back of many black and other groups. Since we have com a long way (slaves, cotton fields, maids, butlers, and any other thing that others can think of to be lower to the WHITE HOUSE - "ALL PRAISES GO TO THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHO HAS HEARD OUR CRY") and still have some individual and collective improvements to do. In spite of what any one thinks: The Almighty God has placed him (Mr. President) in that seat. If you have a problem with it, let your god take that matter to the Almighty God.
      Have a bless day!!!

      • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/06/2008 3:17:30 PM



        "riches", What a loving God you worship...

        Let me see, would that the God of Christians who created us all and who teaches us the equality of His love for all his creations? Or is it the One who "real" Christians rely upon to make them feel superior?

        Just checkin' 'cause I want to be on the side of the right God...

  • Posted By: tmp60 @ 11/06/2008 3:03:29 PM

    funny, everybody even Barrack and Oprah have forgotten that he is half WHITE.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 11/05/2008 6:26:47 PM

    I agree with Ellis Cose - that we aren't there yet for all the reasons that Ellis Cose lists.
    In addition, on the same night that brought Obama to victory, Californians passed an amendment banning gay marriage. The proponents, so called "Christians" used hate and smear tactics right out of the Nazi play book - namely repeating the same lie over and over again. That religious fundamentalists can pass hate legislation by lying poses a danger to everyone everywhere, and ironically, many of the people who supported Proposition 8 were African-Americans and Latinos - the same people who are the victims of the same sort of hate-and-smear tactics. (I clearly remember Proposition 14 in 1964 which banned fair housing in California.)
    It is naive for any one to believe that Obama's election has automatically solved all of our problems - it has not. It is equally naive to believe that Obama's election will automatically transform the hatred and fanaticism that exist throughout the world. But nevertheless, Obama's election makes a powerful statement - namely that Americans of different races and religions can transcend the hatreds that have divided them for ages and join together to repair our country. The dream and the vision requires a lot of work, Obama has said that himself. But we have set a precedent that the whole world can follow. We have offered what the whole world needs - hope.,

    • Posted By: Basilhoff @ 11/06/2008 11:42:38 AM

      Given the numbers, it would appear that more than just the "Nazi" and "right wing Christians" voted against the gay marriage initiative. Most of my friends are Democrats and Christian, and they are ALL against gay marriage. I wish the left could accept that not everyone shares their beliefs, and those that don't are not "haters" or "Nazis". Perhaps the left should practice some of this tolerance for diversity they spout at the drop of a hat. An opposing opinion or belief does not necessarily equate to hate.

  • Posted By: Clatech @ 11/06/2008 11:03:15 AM



    Richard Pryor had keen insight when he said "White people are so stupid"

    I???m so fed up with our corrupt political system after breaking my back for years building my business and fighting from going bankrupt, a bunch of naïve Americans elect an even more naïve career politician, president. I and many of my business partners have decided to pack it in, I???m laying off 50 plus workers starting next month and retiring. No way in hell am I going to pay this numskull???s capital gains tax and run my business into the ground before I can cash out!

  • Posted By: Saky @ 11/05/2008 10:39:48 AM

    speak for yourself I am not comfortable with this Muslim. He is going to take our money and give it to the ones that wont work and do that by choice. Look at the market this morning down -140.66. They have allot of faith in this terd......

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 11/05/2008 9:29:23 PM

      Racist.

    • Posted By: liberalprogressive @ 11/05/2008 4:11:44 PM

      Saky, being Muslim is not against the law in the US, nor does it preclude a person being the President of the United States. The Republicans lost a really decent VP candidate in Romney because his religious background differed from the "base". Sad.

    • Posted By: AmericanNewYorker @ 11/05/2008 12:19:00 PM

      Saky....I thought people like you were busy hiding under a rock somewhere...get out of the dark ages...if you are going to dislike the President Elect do it for a real issue...not for some right wing propaganda that isn't even remotely true...Maybe you should try to do some good and get out and help bring this country together...instead of making ridiculous comments about someones religious beliefs.

    • Posted By: AmericanNewYorker @ 11/05/2008 12:10:22 PM

      Wow...I can't believe people like Saky still exist...I thought most of you were off hiding under a rock somewhere. Get out of the dark ages.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/05/2008 8:52:54 PM

    What about all the moderate republicans who came out for Obama. Them saying what they did, including being repelled by the propaganda machine, was just because they were duped by Soros and the other bleeding hearts?

    As long as Rs keep trying to blame this event on others, the party will keep shrinking.

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/05/2008 8:30:43 PM


    And to think you, your BS buddy, and all those ubiquitous smear emails you kept repasting here, just weren't enough to counteract the conspiracy of that "nutgobs mainstream media propaganda machine"....

    They're just so unfair, and your cause is so righteous....

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 11/05/2008 6:44:56 PM

    Epic is the perfect word. A brilliantly orchestrated fraud of "epic" proportions promoted with far-left socialist 100% biased liberal nutjobs mainstream media propaganda machine carried Barack Hussein Obama's rear end into the White House.
    Journalism in the USA is dead ..... and so is democracy.

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