An Epic Moment, Yes. But Transcendent? No.

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  • Posted By: OrionD @ 11/05/2008 4:01:48 PM

    I find it extremely troubling that so many are now talking about how children, in particular black children, woke up this morning thinking, 'Even I can become President." I don't recall ever being told I couldn't be anything I wanted. Never. Not so much as a hint that a goal was out of my reach. If yesterday there really were people, young or old, who thought some outside force was holding them then shame on them.

    • Posted By: liberalprogressive @ 11/05/2008 4:22:13 PM

      The last 8 years have taught all kinds of children, not just black ones, the futility of hope. When one considers that hope is one of the most endearing qualities of childhood, it's kinda sad. I hope all parents stop long enough to discuss the significance of Obama's election with their children. I don't care if you hate his guts and think he's a socialist Muslim terrorist who attended a hatemongering Christian church for twenty years. The important thing children should learn is that possibilities DO exist, if they are willing to dream and to work towards achieving those possibilities.

  • Posted By: GemGfx @ 11/05/2008 12:03:25 PM

    I listened intently to Senator McCain's speech last night. I believe it was one of the most gracious and sincere in history. He recognized the need now to be supportive of his new president so that they could work together to rebuild America and repair the damage that has been done to its economy and international reputation.

    The republican party all but admitted to it's failure, evidenced by their attempt to distance McCain from the outgoing president George W. Bush. This was demonstrated by the fact George W. Bush was no where to be found on the Republican campaign trail. Whereas you had Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Even Colan Powell very vocal and public in their support for Obama.

    So I'm very surprised to see some of the comments here listed after the fact of the landslide win of the Democratic candidate. The negative comments I see posted are in fact un-American, in the very least un-Republican for they betray the very sentiments expressed by the Republican candidate in his concession speech.

    It is time to prove how American you are and support your new President in all his efforts just as your Republican candidate has sincerely vowed to do. Or perhaps you think John McCain was saying something wrong when he uttered those sentiments?

    As recognized by McCain America has come a long way. There was a time when not everyone was considered equal even though the Deceleration of Independence stated that it was a truth held by America. Today many of us who thought we would never see it in our lifetime can say they were there when America grew a little bit older and more mature.

    God bless America.

    • Posted By: liberalprogressive @ 11/05/2008 4:17:32 PM

      I also thought McCain's comments showed the best of him last night. I think if he had been able to maintain this persona rather than coming across as vindictive and vacillating he would have fared better at the polls. I know it's hard to be that gracious at this moment.

  • Posted By: cshadday @ 11/05/2008 11:16:54 AM

    how quickly everyone forgets, a democrat set in motion the financial ruin by insisting Freddie Mac and Fannie May and all the banks give equal oppportunity for all to own homes, even if they could not afford it, and the republicans tried several time to tighten it back up. and a democrat slipped up on his chance 10 years ago to get bin laden, but wanted to peacefully resolve that problem, look where that got us. All that crap did not start 8 years ago, already in motion before that. And no civilized people should allow aborted childern to die on the table. It is not about Obama being black, none of it is about black or white. Yep a democrat started Social Security for us so people didn't have to plan for retirement on their own, the government will take care of you, so we spend what we should have saved. Now they will fix us all up with health care, they know what is best for all of us, and those ho don't work, the rest of us will take care of you. So much for 'self-reliance'.

    • Posted By: liberalprogressive @ 11/05/2008 4:13:52 PM

      Again, this problem came about because of REPUBLICAN deregulatory practices stemming back as far as Ronald Reagan. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac didn't precipitate this crisis; the false and greedy practices of huge private banks like Lehmann Brothers did.

      Get your facts straight.

  • Posted By: liberalprogressive @ 11/05/2008 4:09:05 PM

    I think I agree with the idea of Obama's election as president being more epic than transcendent, and that's because it seems more a culmination of the process begun by the Republican party under Lincoln rather than a new thing that is bigger than the people who brought it about. The only regretful thing about it is that it took more than 150 years for the process to be completed.

    For a little while I was wondering if the US' "ship of state" was going to founder on the rock of diversity. I believe that the world cannot seriously consider this great country as the ultimate democratic model if it remains stuck in the racial, social, and religious segregations of the past. Mr. Obama's election as president gives hope that the United States will stop wallowing in the past and turn its view to the future, so that scientific, social and personal advances with the potential to impact the world can once again be the fabric of American culture, society, and economy.

  • Posted By: 40YearR @ 11/05/2008 2:13:13 PM


    Succeeding through the gauntlet of the election, is one indication that Obama has the capacity to get through most.

    My impression is that Obama will prove to be a pragmatist, with vision.

    If we should have learned nothing else, we must have observed that things haven't been going well lately, nor have things gone as we were told they would. I'm ready to move forward.

    I just hope we don't shoot ourselves in our own foot by narrow minded self-defeating opposition.

    Imagine, less than 50 years after the fear and prejudice directed at JFK's religion, and the centuries long, systemic prejudice and discrimination against blacks, this country, our America, now voluntarily looks past race to the person. Wow....

    How'd we do dat?

    One Giant Step for Human Kind!

    A 40 year republican

  • Posted By: befair @ 11/05/2008 1:28:18 PM

    President elect Barack Obama won this election because the majority of this country said we are tired of the negative, divisive, hateful way that John McCain ran his campaign and more importantly because the country likes the message that Pres. Obama has. We too believe that our nation must become one again and stop all this being dedicated to one party or the other when you get elected. Sen. Obama is going to be the President to all the people as he said last night, even to those who did not vote for him. Anaylists are talking this morning about how Obama won and very few of them have got it right. he won because we like him, we believe in him and we trust that he will represent all of us.

  • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 11/05/2008 12:14:00 PM

    i was very glad to hear how gracious McCain was. After all the divisive issues, when he mentioned that 'I'm a servant to this country and Obama is my President' reminds me of a McCain many years ago...a different McCain.

  • Posted By: GemGfx @ 11/05/2008 12:05:16 PM

    I listened intently to Senator McCain's speech last night. I believe it was one of the most gracious and sincere in history. He recognized the need now to be supportive of his new president so that they could work together to rebuild America and repair the damage that has been done to its economy and international reputation.

    The republican party all but admitted to it's failure, evidenced by their attempt to distance McCain from the outgoing president George W. Bush. This was demonstrated by the fact George W. Bush was no where to be found on the Republican campaign trail. Whereas you had Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Even Colan Powell very vocal and public in their support for Obama.

    So I'm very surprised to see some of the comments here listed after the fact of the landslide win of the Democratic candidate. The negative comments I see posted are in fact un-American, in the very least un-Republican for they betray the very sentiments expressed by the Republican candidate in his concession speech.

    It is time to prove how American you are and support your new President in all his efforts just as your Republican candidate has sincerely vowed to do. Or perhaps you think John McCain was saying something wrong when he uttered those sentiments?

    As recognized by McCain America has come a long way. There was a time when not everyone was considered equal even though the Deceleration of Independence stated that it was a truth held by America. Today many of us who thought we would never see it in our lifetime can say they were there when America grew a little bit older and more mature.

    God bless America.

  • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 11/05/2008 12:02:42 PM

    and another thing cshadday...if you really want to know how much people care about obama listen to what the world has to say.

  • Posted By: cshadday @ 11/05/2008 11:53:31 AM

    cferns, my father and grandfathers have fought for this country so I can have freedom of speech, just like you....just because I have a difference of opinion I have to leave the country ?? I don't care if he is black, I thought I made the plain in my last post. Is that how the dems are going to run it, if you don't like it get out. So much for his great speech last night about coming together, yes we can....., everyone working together for a better nation. did you hear his speech last night and stand by his policies or only vote because his is a black man ? I hope you voted for him for more than that

    • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 11/05/2008 12:00:25 PM

      ok im sorry if i came out too hard. but what im stressing on is give him a chance. your reflecting on something negative when we've seen how divisive the republicans played their politics. and i understand alot of people blast obama cos he has no experience.

      palin called his community organizing a joke and all she could provide on foreign policy was ' i can see russia from my house'. for her to even have the nerve to call 'small pockets of america' real just made the real america blow dust in her face.
      last time america elected a governor we saw what happened.
      again i stress that im sorry for being harsh, but please understand the america that is now, is far from what it was...and it needed CHANGE!

  • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 11/05/2008 11:41:06 AM

    cshadday...i totally understand your plight.....now leave this country! piss off if u dont like a black man as your president! the majority have silenced you. i hope you post a thousand more messages. no one can hear you. maybe you should find alaska.

  • Posted By: JoeShmoeMidwest24 @ 11/05/2008 10:58:44 AM

    Saky: your comments speaks volumes about you and your intellectual capacity. What this election has shown is that a majority of Americans reject your kind of knee-jerk racism and xenophobia. You can grumble all you want, but your guy Bush had his chance - and blew it big time. Time for fresh ideas...

  • Posted By: JoeShmoeMidwest24 @ 11/05/2008 10:57:46 AM

    Saky: your comments speaks volumes about you and your intellectual capacity. What this election has shown is that a majority of Americans reject your kind of knee-jerk racism and xenophobia. You can grumble all you want, but your guy Bush had his chance - and blew it big time. Time for fresh ideas...

  • Posted By: Solracarom @ 11/05/2008 10:45:36 AM

    To ALL of you whiners: You had 8 years of the same crap on your table each day.... If now you have another thing to try out, you just reject it.

    Or are you used to have crap every day? Enjoy and ask for seconds....

  • Posted By: tdn0024 @ 11/05/2008 10:36:24 AM

    Obama beat Hillary for one reason only: his opposition to Iraq, compared to what many progressives view as her careerist calculation in voting to support a war that she surely, in her conscience, opposed.

    That is what gave Obama his opening. And, when compared side by side with Hillary over many months, is what made the slight difference in votes.

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