How a ‘Nation of Whiners’ Struck Back

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  • Posted By: wilder @ 11/12/2008 3:48:42 PM

    McCain tried to run as a conservative, but he is not, he's a moderate. He would not defend or nor could he understand what they wanted. There were so many openings for him to kill the Democrats on decades of failed policies, that setup this perfect finanacial storm, but he did nothing to take advantage of it.

  • Posted By: Readyfor2012 @ 11/10/2008 5:00:56 PM

    I feel sorry for the United States of America. My sister owns a restaruant & is not rich by all means. By the time she pays for the food to cook, the cook, the waitressess, the utilities, and all the costs...She is barely bringing in 50,000 from the 200,000 range. She was going to expand the business but she layed off everyone & is the only cook, & waitress & cut down the days she is open. She said she can not afford to give her hard earned money away when she is helping to raise her daughter & her 2 granddaughters. She said she would rather give what she has to her family before it is taken away to give to strangers who have not worked for 30 years to own their own buinsess like she has. I am sure she is not the only one in this situation. All I see from all of this is a huge increase in unemployment & businessess going under for small business. Will be a scary & upside down 4 years. Nothing will be sure or stable.

  • Posted By: JoanR @ 11/07/2008 1:46:00 PM

    The whiners struck back by tumbling over each other to elect a man ,who, with an incantation or two will induce businesses to create more jobs with less money and fund $800billion in new programs with shrinking revenues and tax cuts . All this without adding even a cent to the deficit..Are the whiners brilliant or what ?

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/10/2008 3:55:03 PM

      Someone is whining here.

      Oh, yeah...it's you.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/07/2008 5:27:45 PM

      Well, JoanR, I guess that you'll just have to fire us.

  • Posted By: chillydogs @ 11/08/2008 4:33:29 PM

    Don't you remember the 90's? No matter how well the economy was doing, there was always the extreme right led by Rush and his pals, screaming and yelling about Clinton. They finally latched onto the religious fundamentalists (aka crazies) to get Bush elected. They danced in the streets when W was inaugurated.

    Now that Bush has nearly ruined our country, the average Americans struck back and elected a smart guy. We're tired of leaders that are stupid. But here we go again. Obama hasn't even been inaugurated yet and the Rush right are screaming and yelling about socialism, redistribution, welfare, you name it. The next 4 or 8 years will be filled with demands for special investigations of Obama just to try to discredit him. Puh-leeeeese. We've seen it all before, Rove clones. I hope Americans are smarter this time.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/08/2008 5:04:41 PM

      You elected smart guy??? Think again. The previous guy is indeed pretty stupid. but there are a lot of candidates smarter and more qualified than Obama: McCain, Romny, even Hillary.

      • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 11/10/2008 3:54:37 PM

        McCain wasn't smart enough to win, was he?

      • Posted By: tc125231 @ 11/09/2008 11:13:06 AM

        On what do you base these statements? Keep it up sonny, and the GOP will share the same fate as the American Communist party --extinction.

        Eisenhower was a great man, and a great president. The GOP had Powell. Ask yourself why the modern, "movement improved" GOP chose McCain and Bush over Powell and you will understand why the GOP is in trouble.

  • Posted By: kennyk567 @ 11/09/2008 3:49:12 PM

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  • Posted By: joshcohen @ 11/06/2008 8:41:18 PM

    McCain ads on tv stated that Obama was not right for president because he did not have the experience. but McCain has the experience and he has shown poor judgment, for example Sara Palin. She has a lak of knowledge like i have never seen.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/06/2008 10:06:55 PM

      Yes, Romny would have been more suitable, but Obama coming wasw inacvitable anyway. It was like devil's will - GOP idiot in White House, wishes for change, and finally the crisis.

      • Posted By: tc125231 @ 11/09/2008 11:14:53 AM

        Yes, but the crisis was the consequence of the GOP's actions, son. It wan't the devil --unless the devil is in the GOP itself.

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/07/2008 8:12:51 PM

      It happens everywhere, Joshcohen. A lot of people with a lot of experience screw up a lot. The political campaigns seemed to say that experience is a magic wand that sprinkles gold dust on the works of those who have it. It's sort of like saying that people with cars are a lot more productive than people without cars. You and I know better than to take off on a green light without looking to see if someone is going to run it. Like that.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:44:03 PM

    It's a good thing for McCain he isn't a Liberal or a Democrat (even though he thought of changing parties after Bush and Fallwell degraded him and his wife so bad in 2000) or he would have had to defend his adultery actions during his first marriage because the GOP's, especially the right wing fanatics, would have plastered his infidelity all over the place. Republicans would have made sure everyone knew McCain's character is that of someone who cheats on his wife.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:42:20 PM

    McCain should have picked a better VP and NOT run such negative campaign strategy. McCain has no right to slam someone else's character when he has lied at his job and he committed adultery while married to his first wife. His take on Iraq which is to just carry on the corrupt Bush war is wrong, plus his support for corporation tax cuts which send jobs overseas is certainly not a patriotic decision.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:41:42 PM

    McCain thinks jobs will be created by continuing Bush's corporation tax cuts. After 8 years of Bush giving corporations tax cuts, where are the jobs? They are overseas like in India, not in America. Why can't all the call centers in India be moved to Small-Town America? Why would McCain continue Bush's tax cuts for corporations when it hasn't worked for 8 years? - Typical GOP support of Big Business.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:40:41 PM

    McCain said we can't just get out of Iraq yet Bush pulled the majority of our troops out of Afghanistan-the forgotten REAL war- just like that to start his corrupt war in Iraq which he LIED about, hence, CORRUPT war. At what point does a CORRUPT war like Iraq become honorable? - Never, corrupt is corrupt, there will NEVER be an honorable win in Iraq. McCain doesn't care about the cost it will take to win Iraq, be it money or lives, all McCain wants is to say we won. I'd rather see our troops alive and out of Iraq than any stupid 'win' title.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:39:00 PM

    For Bush to start a war in Iraq off lies and not be held accountable, furthermore then getting RE-elected (even though he did NOT win the popular vote in '04) after all his lies, corruption, and ever embarrassingly stupid speeches, is truly beyond comprehension and a warped sense of Patriotism. Along came McCain who supports Bush's corrupt war and wanted to become president - unbelievable. A true insult to the service of veterans especially the vets who never returned home.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:34:54 PM

    A gracious concession speech by McCain. Alas, it was not his time, his time was in 2000. McCain sold his soul when he aligned himself with the very people who caused him to lose the GOP nominee in 2000 by using dirty underhanded tactics. McCain's # 1 problem-BUSH, his second biggest problem-Palin.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:33:45 PM

    It is disturbing that McCain got as many votes as he did. McCain can't say he is going to be CHANGE after he voted for and supported Bush's stupid and corrupt decisions. For McCain to suggest for himself and copy Obama's theme of change was utterly stupid. If you are mad or confused about '08 election results, you have been sleeping, especially for the past 8 years. Do the human race a favor, go back to sleep.

  • Posted By: jlgab @ 11/08/2008 8:31:09 PM

    If McCain didn't want negative publicity, then HE should NOT have been negative towards Obama first, old John created his own negative publicity. Because McCain considered changing parties after Bush and Fallwell degraded him and Cindy so bad in 2000, I was shocked and disappointed when McCain became so brutally negative towards Obama, I mean didn't McCain learn ANYTHING about dirty politics?

  • Posted By: Omnius @ 11/06/2008 3:53:22 PM

    Great article Daniel! McCain will forever be muttering "Beware the Ides of September" as 9/15/08 was the day his campaign died. On that day McCain proved he was in synch with the "MBA Dunce" Bush lies about the fundamentals of the economy being strong and then two hours later crying economic crisis. His foolish idea to suspend his campaign and then stick his nose into the bailout business showed us how he tried to politicize the process and thus enabled the pitchfork toting peasants to revolt in the White House meeting.

    I was so overjoyed to watch the global financial meltdown happen so perfectly timed for this election after watching every election cycle as the markets would swoon in the summer and then rebound in the fall in time to bail out the repugnant ones. This time the markets folded just when they needed to to give the Democrats the big economic story to point out the lies of Tinkle Down economics that have left the whole world with the wrong kind of Golden Shower.

    Finally we have a complete and total repudiation of free market economics and it's way past time. Now we need to rebuild our economy with smart tough regulations that will ensure that the greedy hypes on Wall Street never again sell junk bonds no matter how fancy they name them. Credit derivative swaps is just a fancy term for junk bonds! Time to redistribute the wealth back downwards after 28 years of them being redistributed upwards!

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/06/2008 7:07:41 PM

      Germans in 1932 wanted changes and redistribution of wealth. Russians in 1917 wanted too. Who is next?

      • Posted By: summer1216 @ 11/07/2008 5:11:38 PM

        American redistributes wealth today. It has always redistributed wealth in one way or the other. Much of that time we have been prosperous. There is nothing inherently ruinous about it, but a plan to make the country stronger and the economy stronger needs to be foremost.

  • Posted By: Clatech @ 11/06/2008 10:36:51 AM



    Richard Pryor had keen insight when he said "White people are so stupid"

    I???m so fed up with our corrupt political system after breaking my back for years building my business and fighting from going bankrupt, a bunch of naïve Americans elect an even more naïve career politician, president. I and many of my business partners have decided to pack it in, I???m laying off 50 plus workers starting next month and retiring. No way in hell am I going to pay this numskull???s capital gains tax and run my business into the ground before I can cash out!

    • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/07/2008 8:55:34 AM

      Well, so much for the Bush image of the greatness of American business. We always knew that it's main engine was the gratification of a simple greed, and that the cherished employees were actually considered to be cattle by their great American entrepreneurs. Fire your cattle, take the money and run. The crowning irony of the Bush administration was the effort to get social security benefits into the stock market. Bye. Enjoy your retirement.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 11/07/2008 8:49:27 AM

    There was an unintended truth to what Phil Gramm said about us whining. I already had a sadness in my gizzard, deep down there somewhere in the viscera, that was close to what would have been called a whine in my infancy. But, it had been generated by the tragedy of the eight years of Bush administration. I could hear echoes of Vietnam and the "guns and butter" waste of our soldiers and our resources of those days, and the repetitive claims that we were winning and that there was "light at the end of the tunnel" as the body bags began to stack higher and higher. I actually found, as well, when I finally got to go walk the distance of the Viet Nam Memorial, that the tears welled up and fell on my clothes with no hope of stopping them, and then is when I realized how bad it really had been, and that art born in tragedy can actually have a physical effect on an unwilling person. I am an old man who does not whine. But again, I hope for the last time, I was sitting at the television in awe of an historical election and when it was suddenly announced that a victor had been declared, I whined like a baby. I know that it was motivated by the fact that something really bad had finally ended. It is a long list of reasons that continues to come to mind, too lengthy to recite in this medium. I've had it with whining. I will whine no more, no matter what happens. I live in a good place again and there is cause only for celebration. I'll pitch in and do my part. That's how it was always intended to work here in this blessed country.

  • Posted By: dbcooper1965 @ 11/06/2008 3:52:22 PM

    Real classy response by Clatech. Instead of seeing how new tax plan actually pans out, Clatech decides to make a bad situation even worse for 50 plus workers (and the families of those 50 plus workers) just so he/she can "cash out"...nice job there of putting country first.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/06/2008 7:05:07 PM

      Those 50 are now Obama responsibility. Most likely thsy voted for him. It is his payback.

  • Posted By: Natalie W. @ 11/06/2008 12:17:34 PM

    Time will tell about Obama. Were his words just to win votes?

  • Posted By: vstillwell @ 11/05/2008 10:55:41 PM

    What do I smell? Oh, it's the rotting corpse of the Republican Party and their spend spend spend budgets and cut taxes for the rich policies. The culture warriors are aging, and the GOP has lost a generation of voters. Do I dare believe that wedge issues and fear politics are over? I think so. After all, when the future of your party is Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin, you might as well turn out the lights and go home.

    • Posted By: bighappy @ 11/05/2008 11:24:00 PM

      See you in 2 years, when Democrats will lose House majority and most of it in Senate.

      • Posted By: neocon @ 11/06/2008 11:11:03 AM

        6 months from now the American public will have buyers remorse when they see what Obama, Pelosi and Reid do to this country.

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